The National Geography and the book or gosple of Judas iscariot

This will be airing soon on the NG TV.which I do not get.But do a search on this subject,the book is to be dated around or before 180 A.d. any new info keep this page updated!

One day early to be pulling an April Fools Prank..Greg :-?

Http//www.tertullian.org/rpearse/manuscripts/gospel_of_judas/[font=Arial]this web page has most info on this manscript, you can even view and see some of the translation.[/font] and if any know how to post web site above to a working link would be thankful!

This is no april fools joke!did any body go to the website to read? why wouldn't anybody be interested in this! Even those who question the books of the bible and those who added them to the cannon.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospeljudas.htmlThis page has information about this, but no text.Krispy does have a point, when would he have written it as he died after betraying Jesus? GQ, what information do you think would be in this 'Gospel of Judas?'

btw, GQ-- I did check out the website you linked. the text seemed like gibberish...probably cause it is missing pieces.

the special airs tonight at 9 eastern time i think.

This is more gnostic hogwash. It wasn't written by Judas, just like the "gospel of Thomas" wasn't written by Thomas. Just another piece of crap that Elaine Pagels, the Jesus Seminar and their minions will use so they don't have to think about facing God on judgment day. Iraneaus actually wrote about this "gospel" in his work Against Heresies. Nothing new, they just decided to bring it out around Easter, like they do every year. They time these things for emotional purposes, b/c they know that even liberal scholars reject Pagels and the Jesus Seminar. Nothing to worry about brethren. More of the same old junk. Expect more next Easter.

I think we will be ok. Becuase this will cause people to come boldly against christ. How is this good? Well because it causes us to know what we believe, and it provides more evangelical opportunities, much like the divinci code. Men and Women of God thank God, because you salvation draws near. All of this is written about. But the culmination of the times is manifest so that Jesus can return in flaming fire to purify the corruption which proceeds from this world. Take advantage of this, becuase there is a great revival coming.

Greenquality wrote:This will be airing soon on the NG TV.which I do not get.But do a search on this subject,the book is to be dated around or before 180 A.d. any new info keep this page updated! I read in a newpaper article that Iraneus mentioned this in his writings while criticising people who, in his day, were overemphasising Judas' importance. Apparently he mentioned a book that was attributed to Judas. My question is, did he write it before or after he betrayed Christ? And if after, was it before or after he hanged himself? ;-) Apparently it claims that Jesus asked Judas to betray him, as he was too afraid to face the cross. At the end of the day, whether he betrayed him at Jesus request or not, he still is accountable for his actions, and could have potentially repented if he didn't kill himself first.

I spoke to my sister about it and she read me this Psalm, I thought I'd share.Psalm 2Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed , saying,'let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.'He that sittith in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath and vex them in His sore displeasure. Yet have I set my King upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put thier trust in Him.I hope this blesses everyone the same way it blessed me,Ruthiepoothie

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. There are many in "christian" circles that are embracing this "new discovery". There is only one way to respond to these who would sew discord.Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Blessings Greg :-D

This is nothing short of blasphemy! I give this link simply that you may see and judge for yourselves.National Geographic

Amen! To the last four responses.

i watched the show and as soon as the part about Judas having been told secret knowledge i knew in my spirit it was blasphemy. then it went on to talk about how Christ laughed at the last supper (at the disciples) about a false piety and that the one they prayed for made everything but was not worthy of worship but there was another whom Judas knew of beyond discription...blasphemy...

bro Krispyi found it interesting that the experts found the book to be an ancient text but they all seemed to agree that it was of little more help for anything else than understanding gnostic ChristianityWhat I do find interesting about this whole thing is that supposedly Jesus and Judas has a special relationship where Judas has inside knowledge, and he was chosen to do this act of betrayal, and could not go against God's will. This whole scenario would fit very well into hyper-Calvanism.well you know that i believe our free will is still under God's sovereign will somehow (see Romans chapt 9) now how that is the Lord has shown me to be unweildy but that those of us called to vessels of mercy should behave as such. at any rate, i feel led to bring this scripture up for consideration.21 When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. 22 Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake. 23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24 Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake. 25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it? 26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, F27 when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. 27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. 28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him. 29 For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor. 30 He then having received the sop went immediately out: and it was night.this seems to me to show that Judas was indeed destined for this, else what should we make of it?

bro KrispyWell, IRONMAN, what I was referring to was hyper-Calvinism which I dont believe you subscribe to. I do agree that Judas was destined to be that man who would betray Christ... yet I also think he had a choice. People spend too much time trying to figure all that out in their heads. To be honest with you, I dont understand it myself. But ya know what? We're mere mortals and we are wasting our time if we think we can understand the mind of God. We cant. Thats why you dont see me discussing predestination a whole lot. I think it's a waste of time to debate something that is impossible for us to understand.thanks bro, i'd been accused of being hyper-Calvanist (or some other such thing) i guess i'm not so crazy :-P

bro Krispy"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ" (Jude 4these men were before of old ordained to turn the grace of God into lasciviousness the word says...this book is nothing short of the work of such men inspired by satan himself. may the Lord judge them accordingly. AMEN.

Judas was never an Apostle.Mat 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James [the son] of Zebedee, and John his brother; Mat 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James [the son] of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Mat 10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.

A few days ago I heard about this from one of my housemates. She only saw the commercial for it on NG and she seemed to believe what they said so far.She also said that some big people in faith have certified this thing and such.I also told her that it was nonesense, in no way Judas is a hero doing Jesus a favor.Just for anyone who doesn't know God and the Bible this might sound appealing...Egypt was a hotbed of heresy and fanaticism in the early centuries after Christ. Many other strange "gospels" originated there, including the Gospel of Thomas that purports to give details of Christ's childhood (such as giving life to a dried fish and causing the death of one of his playmates).But then again, another housemate of mine was suprised that 'protestants' believe in Jesus. :-(

I've been dealing with a lot of people on the street that have been asking about this. I'm glad you guys have started this thread. Sadly enough many believe it, and inturn disbelieve the Bible.

Indeed, I find the irony of these great, detailed attempts to "disprove" the Word of God only confirm it:"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Tim. 4:3,4In Christ,Benjamin