Yet Paul seemed to be extremely careful about his judgments against the leaders – well except one time – when he was cornered. He used a perfectly legitimate OT term to speak against the hypocrisy of the high priest. Apparently this was not well received, and Paul was told so in no uncertain terms: You dare to insult God’s high priest?” Paul did not get defensive, but instead said, “I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written; ‘Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people” Acts 23:5This blows me away! Paul had NOT been speaking evil of the high priest. He gave a perfectly legitimately warning of divine judgment, saying, “God will strike you (honest warning of judgment) you whitewashed wall (honest picture of their hypocrisy).” When Paul felt cornered, he said something that was against his better judgment.
Blows me away as well but.... Isn't this more centered on the matter of;
[i]‘Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people'[/i]
A similar accounting seems parallel with;
Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Without over reaching here, on the one hand and from what Paul recognized, was a matter of respect for [i]order[/i] and authority that is put in place by God Himself, regardless of the conduct of the leader(s). David and his respect and reactions towards Saul another great case in point.
Think we have a generation that has lost it's general respect for elders, for leaders, and as to the saints for an understanding that is presented throughout scripture, as example;
[i]Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;[/i] Eph 6:5,6
[i]Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:[/i] Heb 13:17
[i]Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.[/i] Tit 2:9,10
The point of the matter driven home here;
[i]Show honor to everyone. Keep on loving the brothers, fearing God, and honoring the king. You household servants must submit yourselves to your masters with all fear, not only to those who are kind and fair, but also to those who are [u]unjust[/u].
For it is a fine thing if, when moved by your conscience to please God, you suffer patiently when wronged. What credit is it if you sin and patiently receive a beating for it? But if you suffer for doing good and take it patiently, you have God's approval. This is, in fact, what you were called to do, because Christ also suffered for you and [u]left an example for you to follow in his steps[/u].[/i] 1Pe 2:17-21
Used the ISV there for emphasis. There is a common disrespect that denies authority and order as set forth by the Lord despite all this. Think Bartle earlier grasped the heart of the matter where he stated he was done with judging ... This is a particular topic of interest that I have haltingly attempted elsewhere with the matter of "Fruit inspections", it has the same root issue. A [i]desire[/i] it seems to want a place of being judge, to find some backing out of scripture to subsist an authority not given but assumed...
[i]My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.[/i]
Jam 3:1
How quick to overlook this requirement. Another;
Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, [u]that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.[/u] 1Ti 6:1
The wonder is here, that this alone is not enough incentive. Far too often the whole matter of judging is in upholding some form of supposed rights [i]personally[/i], of defending ones self, of a peculiar [i]resentment[/i] to our self image or so called 'respectability' or as a guise to defend the [i]Lords honor[/i] ... (Hmmm, sounds like judging...)
Something that can be lost on all of us is to where we apply all these matters [i]first[/i] even as we attempt to spell them out...
[i]For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.[/i] 1Co 11:31,32
There is a great disconnect from what Jesus stated;
Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
[i]And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.[/i] Joh 8:15,16
[i]For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.[/i] Joh 3:17-19
[i]And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.[/i] Joh 12:47-49
I may be just as guilty here attempting to string together a handful of verses to make a point as one might do to support that which is of making a [i]right judgment[/i].
Perhaps it is this penchant that is based on a lot of predetermined processing. That is to say if we hold strictly to a 'list' of how to's and when to to 'judge' or not to judge we are putting the emphasis on our own natural ability and those things that affect [i]us[/i] as the springs of our motivation. By contrast a reactionary impulse can be our undoing if unchecked, a place for an indignation at the unjust treatment of others surely can be called for without a lot of processing, defending or explaining.
If anything I have learned in this life with the Lord it is to stop this penchant for climbing inside others heads and making a 'judgment'. To take a snapshot of other people and to allow ones self to form an opinion of [i]I know your type[/i] is very disturbing, we have seen it expressed here time and time again. It is far too often derived from a heart of bitterness, pride and the well stated emphasis that Paul spoke of, taking note of how he exemplified this matter of judgment;
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. [u]Therefore judge nothing before the time[/u], until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
[u]For who maketh thee to differ from another?[/u] and [i]what hast thou that thou didst not receive?[/i] now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it? Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. 1Co 4:3-16
I apologize for the length here. We make judgments and decisions constantly as we must do. We can 'judge' that which is stated and bring it to the test of what has been [i]spoken[/i] and preserved [i] as it is written[/i], the test of the Berean.
1Co 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go [u]beyond the things which are written[/u]; [i]that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.[/i]
Why it is taking so much to just try and expound on the heart of the matter, I do not know. The thought train running in different directions. It is to express it without a conclusion but as an ongoing process.
Maybe Ravenhill can help here;
[i]Shame, shame on us! Jesus whipped some money changers out of the temple; but before He whipped them, He wept over them.[/i]
Seems that we misinterpret compromise with compassion, judging from the head with making a right judgment from the heart, that which is borne out of true concern rather than drawing attention to ourselves and our 'scriptural knowledge' of wanting to be known for such things.
A random thought came about yesterday listening to Kay Arthur on the radio discussing coloring in passages in her bible with different colors to denote certain aspects, attributes, what have you. All well and good and helpful... This musing came across;
At some point we come to a place where we are not just marking verses but are marked by them.
This matter of honesty I just cannot shake nor do I wish to, but to truly embrace it right across the board. It is displacing much that gives an appearance of what is being upheld as the face of Christianity in our day. It cuts across denominations and theological constructs. It challenges that which is being held back by either giving 'offense' as well as that which is 'defensive' or defending. The amount of venom inwardly sometimes and the forgotten commandment to [i]forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors[/i].
[i] Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? [/i]
Indeed, why not? How quick to go the route of judging instead ... How unlike our Lord who;
[i]He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:[/i]
Is it not strange how easily there can be an assimilation by imitation for those things that find a ready place of action in judging and condenming, a sort of quasy "[i]I am only doing what our Lord did[/i]" without recognizing that not everything the Lord did is ours to do, nor how far from His character and giving Himself away we have even yet to become like Him in spirit and in truth.
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
How does this fit into this matter of judging?
Am rambling at random here and asking my own set of questions to myself. Not everything needs be said or spoken. Many things held in abayence are often revealing when they are given that check of the Holy Spirit. [i]Casting down evil imaginations[/i] ... How many are there! How often the grip of recognition ...[i]Oh, how glad am I for keeping silent[/i]. Other times it is by way of embarrassment and humility that things must be learned, repented of and then absorbed not to repeat the same error. How this matter of judging seems to be one of the last in a long line of other more important issues of the heart, unless it is being overlooked and needs be addressed because of it's displacement.
It seems it ought to be more rare than commonplace.
To exhort or reprove has it it's own inherent challenges to the one bringing them forth ... [i]By what authority[/i]? Assumed? Presumed? And to what end? An end in itself? To be thought well of? How often a 'judgment' is just left dangling without any resolution, I.E.;
[i]I now rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye were made sorry unto repentance; for ye were made sorry after a godly sort, that ye might suffer loss by us in nothing. For godly sorrow worketh repentance unto salvation, a repentance which bringeth no regret: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.[/i] 2Co 7:9,10
Am becoming more and more convinced that this is to be our doing as well in all matters great and small;
[i]...he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak[/i]
And maybe the most important is [i]when[/i].