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"And i've come finally to my peace and I know it is from god.
And you know what i believe?
You can praise god in the pit."
-daniel,
this is not from God. there is no way you can praise God in a mosh pit. thats insane! i've moshed a couple of times before and use to be around stuff like this all the time before coming to Christ. yes, little me use to to mosh and once i thought i was going to die. moshing is violent. there is nothing pure, lovely, and meek about moshing (phil. 4:8). moshing is full of flesh and it feeds your old man.
1 Thessalonians 4:11
11Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you,
so how's moshing encouraging them to lead a quiet life? moshing is physical violence that teaches people that its o.k to bring out negative emotions and let it loose on other people.
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"The Jesus freaks are...very freaky.
Their outward appereance is surely not what most people here would call proper."
so your saying their appearance is showy, worldly? christian are commanded to dress modestly. not to look and act like the world.
1 Timothy 2:9
9 in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,
1 John 2:15
15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
if the jesus freaks want to win these people to Christ that is a wrong way of doing it. it sounds like the jesus freaks think that if they look and act outwardly freaking that they will win the freaks. pleasing men will create false converts. did Christ dress like and act like drunkard, harlot, to win them? no! He did not depend on worldly things to win them. His dependence was on the Father.
the way that many christians are trying to win the world is an embarrassment! they do not believe in the power of the cross or else they would be preaching it and living it. instead, they want to entertain the lost to win them. look at Jesus life, paul's, many of the old saints. they were utterly dead to self. suffered inwardly and outwardly to win souls. there life was not there own to do as they please. they weren't on stage having loads of fun, moshing and dancing with their fans. no! they labored ernestly in prayer, weeping and fasting for souls, denying themselves of worldly pleasure that they may fellowship in the sufferings of Christ and be conformed to His death.
these men died daily, love not their life, suffered hardship from men who despise the preaching of the cross of Christ. these are the real freaks! because they are nothing like the world. their life were truly sold out to Christ and the world despised such men, especially the religouse pharisees hated them.
pharisees- those who appear outwardly clean, but inside are still filled with greed and lust of the world.
Matthew 23:25
25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
this verse exposed alot of christian entertainers. surely if it was all for Christ they wouldn't have videos and posters of themselves looking all glamorouse, edgy and beautiful, they wouldn't live in luxury homes, attending the dove awards, signing autogaraphs and charging people more money for something they boast is for Christ. having concerts to be praised and love by men! how wicked!
how can we read about the saints of old knowing how much they suffered and died to themselves to win souls and think that most of these entertainers are partaking in the same death as the other saints, as JESUS?!
so most of these christian entertainers can look and act like the world, but the rest of christianity has to die to self?
todays pharisical churches are making a mockery out of Jesus, and His saints. while the false churches are having fun entertaining the lost and partying with them, the real saints are pouring out their life for souls!
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"It's always difficult to argue about those things."
it is a very sad and dangerouse time we are living in when many christian cannot tell the evil from holy. calling evil holy and the things holy evil.
Ezekiel 22:26
26 Her priests have violated My law and profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them.
but, praise God, He has raised up the sons of zadoks to teach the difference!
Ezekiel 44:23
23 “And they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and the unholy, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.
i cannot believe how many christians tolerate and are deceived by many things that call itself christianity. and those who dare expose such filth are called judgemental and unloving!
Father have mercy! for your people have committed adultery with the world. they have allowed the world to defiled them and their own. You have called us to be set apart, but many have despised Your commandments. God help us and break us!!! pour out Your Spirit and expose us that we may see our wicked intent and be put to shame and cry out to You to cleanse us and revive us back to You again!