I recently heard a John MacArthur overview on Catholicism (which Todd Friel calls a hour and a half kidney punch) That referenced a meeting of well know evangelicals and high ranking catholic officials uniting on common grounds??? basically calling everyone Christians and wanting to work together etc…..
I think the sermon was about 2 years old
Does anyone have information on this meeting????
Here's a book by Chuck Colson about it the results of this meeting (which Colson thinks is just wonderful).
http://www.amazon.com/Evangelicals-Catholics-Together-Toward-Mission/dp/0849938600
Here is a good explanation of what this unscriptual gathering of compromisers was all about, including a list of people who were involved. Some of the names may suprise you.
Now... where can I get this MacArthur sermon you're speaking of?
Krispy
Evangelicals and Catholics Together ehhh,
I got it from on a podcast that has been forced out, but luckly I found it on my HD, (I love macs OS X) 70MBs worth I can break it up and send it to you,,,
Is a zipped 11-13 MB file too much... 15min segments
[size=medium]WOW!![/size]... thats all I can say. I'm listening to this message. It's something to behold.
...and people think [i]I'm
Krispy
can i get a copy please? hmmhmm12@hotmail.com
This sermon needs to be available for everyone here. There are folks on this very forum who believe that the Catholic Church is just another denomination. I can see how someone could hold this view... if they are completely ignorant of what the Catholic Church is, and the hellish things it teaches.
This sermon needs to be heard.
Krispy
Is there a way that I can listen to this sermon while online?
Jordan
This sermon needs to be available for everyone here. There are folks on this very forum who believe that the Catholic Church is just another denomination. I can see how someone could hold this view... if they are completely ignorant of what the Catholic Church is, and the hellish things it teaches.
I grew up Roman Catholic...went to ccd until I graduated from High School..Church every Sunday, Holy days, sacraments, the whole bit. When I got saved I used to rail against the Catholic (especially after reading a few Chick Tracts...those will fire you up!) Most of my family is still Catholic.
I'll be honest with you though, after being around Evangelical, Protestant, Pentecostal. etc. circles for many years now I have come to see that false doctrine is false doctrine no matter what tag you put on it. A lie is a lie.
Put Mary, the saints, indulgences, etc. aside, if we want to look at how a regular - devout catholic views how they are justified before God, it doesn't really differ from what many espouse on this very forum.
This sermon needs to be available for everyone here. There are folks on this very forum who believe that the Catholic Church is just another denomination. I can see how someone could hold this view... if they are completely ignorant of what the Catholic Church is, and the hellish things it teaches.
You can email to me: sermonindex@gmail.com and I will try and get it up on SI for download.
Did Krispy already send this to Greg to post????? if not, then I can send it...
email me FTP info and I can send it as a whole or I have it broken into small zip files..
Warning this is a THUMPER
No, I didnt send it... and I wont have time today, so go ahead.
Krispy
WILL DO!!! ENJOY,
& I am SURE this will ruffle feathers
but my prayer is that this message will, make those on the fence fall toward the biblical.
I look forward to the discussions
I'll be honest with you though, after being around Evangelical, Protestant, Pentecostal. etc. circles for many years now I have come to see that false doctrine is false doctrine no matter what tag you put on it. A lie is a lie.
Agreed. You're absolutely right.
Put Mary, the saints, indulgences, etc. aside, if we want to look at how a regular - devout catholic views how they are justified before God, it doesn't really differ from what many espouse on this very forum.
I dont agree with this, but we're getting into opinions here, and not facts.
This sermon by MacArthur is not an attack on [i]Catholics
Scripture says that to even bid "godspeed" to someone who comes to you with "another gospel" is to partake in the evil doings. How much more to participate in the mass, infant baptism, the eucharist... etc.
My heart hurts for those who are bound up in this satanic trap.
The Bible is available for any Catholic to pick up now... there is no excuse.
Krispy
Put Mary, the saints, indulgences, etc. aside, if we want to look at how a regular - devout catholic views how they are justified before God, it doesn't really differ from what many espouse on this very forum.
My point was that, a salvation according to works is a salvation according to works no matter what tag we put on it. Flesh is Flesh, it all stinks! 8-)
Most catholics don't even know what the catholic church really teaches anyway.
lol... the converse is true too. Most "Christians" dont know what the Bible teaches! Once in awhile that becomes painfully clear even on this forum. :-)
Folks like that usually post a couple times, and then we never hear from them again. But every now and then someone like that sticks around, and it isnt long before we begin to see growth... it's a marvelous thing to watch.
Thats not to say us vets cant grow too... we do! This forum has been great for me on many different levels.
Krispy
As being a false convert for several years myself (sinners prayer) I can attest to this; Thanks be to God for the small church pastor who wasn't afraid to preach a balanced gospel (THE WHOLE GOSPEL) which allowed Holy Spirit to work salvation,
I am going through the initial growth that Krispy speaks of; and I have had to forget what I thought i knew,,, & guess what? i now actually have a desire to read the bible & see what it says,,,rather than relying on past traditions, clichés, and quotes of men.
There are many people, brother, who mistakenly believe the evidence of Holy Spirit baptism is speaking in tongues. If you want to know whether the Holy Spirit is alive in you... check and see how much you desire to be in the Word of God. I believe it's impossible to be a true born-again believer and have no desire for His Word.
Ravenmolehil... you've encouraged me this morning! :-)
Krispy
I would really like to hear this sermon, please let me know as soon as it is available.
It has been sent to Greg to Post; so i'm sure it will be at the top of the threads for a while; I would send it but I have been flooded with requests and some email boxes have size restrictions etc..
It is 6 segments @ about 11-13MB each (15 minute seg. - 1 hr 17min total)
It was pulled off of a podcast that has been pushed out of date
This one has the same message but on way of the master program
http://www.wayofthemasterradio.com/podcast/2006/11/09/november-09-2006-hour-1/
If you still can't find it GOOGLE this:
"A must hear, non-stop kidney punch from John MacArthur"
Download Hour 1 & Hour 2 from
November 09, 2006
.....catholic church is a front for the kingdom of satan..... :-o
J.M. quotes Spurgeon a lot in this message..
I hope everyone is able to get the one that isn't on the way of the master broadcast; sometimes that show is annoying
Back to the question at hand... does anyone have info on this ECT meeting, That Macarthur speaks of, Krispy gave me a little insight (thanks)
Any word on getting this sermon here on SI?
I for one still do as thats the only thing that is given to us in all the book of acts as our examples. Mistakenly or not, we should stick to the book. All those who have received the holy Spirit spoke in tongues.There are many people, brother, who mistakenly believe the evidence of Holy Spirit baptism is speaking in tongues.
JaySaved wrote:
Any word on getting this sermon here on SI?
It was up over the weekend; (listed in General topics as Must Heat etc..) but I can't find it, must have been deleted?
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