there are 2 things catholics have told me. when i refer the passages that say all have sinned, one catholic said " so you believe that every person that has ever lived has sinned?" he was trying to be sarcastic i think because he wasnt trying to actually ask me that question, but i dont know what he meant by that...he said you have to look at it from a hyper something point of view...2nd is Kecharitomene when mary is considered full of grace...they say something like the greek word for full of grace is Kecharitomene which meant sinless and then there is another word charitoo? well then if thats what the greek words meant then i guess the catholics are right? but i know mary was human...what im trying to say is that is it true about Kecharitomene and if its not then do you have proof or evidence? and if it is true well then does that mean she was sinless? obviously catholics have somewhat good reasons for thier ways...i mean they didnt just pop out of no where, i mean maybe the greek words do mean this...i just want good answers that show how its made up..i dont just want to hear an answer that says well catholics are wrong or something. if someone knows about the greeks and can show that this isnt what they mean please let me know
mary did not sin? Kecharitomene?
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[url=http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/GS1.html]Immaculate Conception and Assumption
In Christ,
Ron
Luk 1:28 και2532 CONJ εισελθων1525 V-2AAP-NSM ο3588 T-NSM αγγελος32 N-NSM προς4314 PREP αυτην846 P-ASF ειπεν2036 V-2AAI-3S χαιρε5463 V-PAM-2S [b]κεχαριτωμενη5487
Luk 1:28 And2532 the3588 angel32 came in1525 unto4314 her,846 and said,2036[b] Hail,5463[b] highly favored,5487
"Hail" - Chairo {# 5483 - only means to be full of “cheer”, that is, calmly happy or well off; impersonal especially as a salutation (on meeting or parting), be well: - farewell, be glad, God speed, greeting, hail, joy (-fully), rejoice.
"Highly favored" or "grace" - Charis or Charitoo- #5487 does not mean "sinless" but [i]grace
G5487 χαριτόω charitoo¯ khar-ee-to'-o
From G5485; to grace, that is, indue with special honor: - make accepted, be highly favoured.
G5487 Total KJV Occurrences: 3
accepted, 1
Eph 1:6 To1519 the praise1868 of the glory1391 of his848 grace,5485 wherein1722, 3739 he hath made us accepted5487, 2248 in1722 the3588 beloved.25
favoured, 1
Luk_1:28 - above
made, 1
Eph_1:6 - above
Edit: The KJC in e-sword has a glitch in it.
It should only say that charitoo is only used twice. Once in Luke and once in Eph.
There is more than one deception within the catholic religion. Some people are under theologies or mentalities of a "one true church" and "one holy priesthood" different things within the catholic church originated in hell or from powers of darkness because there are demons behind them. From purgatory to praying to saints, it is sad the deception that are upon catholics. God have mercy on them and open there eyes to the truth!
There is more than one deception within the catholic religion. Some people are under theologies or mentalities of a "one true church" and "one holy priesthood" different things within the catholic church originated in hell or from powers of darkness because there are demons behind them. From purgatory to praying to saints, it is sad the deception that are upon catholics. God have mercy on them and open there eyes to the truth!
Walking through a cathedral once is enough to know that the powers of darkness are at large in the whole system. I remember once in France walking through the cathedral in the city of Laon and as alot of people put it the hair on the back of my neck stood up. As you'd go into the little chambers along the sides of the main hall you'd find many different things from tombs of priests to statues of different saints, and as you'd go in the little rooms immediately you knew you weren't alone in there even though there weren't any other people in there with you. Some of the most creepy places I've been to were the cathedrals of France.