America's End is nigh!

From:

http://www.worldministries.org/america.html#top

"America, America, awake out of your slumber; I will shake you, I will shake you with a shake that has never shaken you before.

You flaunted yourselves above the world; you flaunted yourselves above your neighbor and your neighbors: brother against brother, kingdom against kingdom, people against people, Christian against Christian in your ungodly attempt to self-glorify yourselves. Both in the church and throughout America your leaders religiously, politically and economically are vain, corrupt and amoral. You are fast losing the salt, the purity that has held you together; that has made you great, if not the greatest of all nations.

But, I will bring you down; like the wind brings down the tree, so I will bring you down.

You will not escape my wrath; for it is an expression of my love, my deep love that will do all it can to get your attention before my eternal wrath, to remove all those who do not and will not love thy neighbor, will fall.

Some say, many say, 'Oh, we will escape. It will not happen to us; for we are your elect; we are God's chosen.' But, I say, you have blinded yourselves with your own vanity. My elect are not the people, the church in America; but my elect are the people of the world that are called by my name and do my will on earth as it is done in heaven. Not people with a false tongue of divination of thy heart, but of divination of my will.

For you are a thankless, godless, amoral generation that has been raised by the philosophies of the heathen and I will challenge your philosophies till you hate me and my people. My people will not escape your wrath -- the wrath of the world as some falsely teach; for only the world's wrath will open their eyes clearly to what I am saying so they are prepared to meet me.

I am coming quickly for a people, a church without spot or wrinkle; a blood washed, blood soaked people who are really called Christian; not the hypocritical, self-righteous, self-taught, self-educated fool who propitiates his own dogma today.

I will tear down the haughty; the mighty religious leader in my kingdom, in my church who has deceived my people with your ever babbling rhetoric that has filled the pulpits across America. Instead of my church being one, you have become institutionalized where my true servants are not even welcomed because you're protecting your own man-made philosophies and your own selfish interests. You think the people are yours, but I tell you they are mine and your man-made denominational institutions will fail; for I am shaking and calling the very elect to follow me, not you. Awake, awake, oh Jerusalem; for the King of Glory is about to appear and only the true elect, the glorified elect, will live in that New Jerusalem that I am preparing.

America, your religious leaders are vain and corrupt; your church leaders are vain and corrupt; your political leaders are vain and corrupt; your relatives are vain and corrupt; your neighbors are vain and corrupt. A generation of heathen, those that appear to many as the elect -- my chosen, yet, I have not accepted them because I can see their heart. They are imitations of the genuine; a pearl in the rough.

But don't give up; for I will wash you and prepare you through the fire of my love, not the world's wrath, but my love. As a father chastens his children, so I will chasten you and tear down your sand castles, your delusions of grandeur, until you can see the kingdom again."

On December 24, 1995 at 0541hrs., Rev. Jonathan Hansen received this prophecy primarily for the people who call themselves "born again." The Lord is saying that he will exhort the American people to look to him. He will cause an incident to happen in America so great so as to get their attention. This could possibly be through the weather, food, disease, economy (although it would have to be a much greater degree than we have yet experienced), etc., or nuclear war at a national level.

God is saying that the people of America are guilty of intense pride, intense self-exaltation and self-satisfaction. In all areas of life in America, including the Church, most of the people are filled with pleasing themselves. The leaders in America, even in the Church for the most part, are filled with self-glorification and self-attainment. Many of their leaders not only have a gluttonous appetite for glory and "the things of the world," but some are guilty of immorality and amorality. Many church leaders do not know right from wrong any longer. Many are guilty of lying, cheating, fornication and adultery. Because so many of the pastors have become amoral and are no longer either capable or bold enough to counsel truth, the American people are turned over to the philosophies of evil men and satanic spirits. The psychic, the philosopher, the professor, and even eastern religions take the place of the truth of Jesus Christ that should be taught fundamentally, doctrinally sound and without error. But the message is not popular with people of America, nor with many deceived pastors within the Church. So, the people of America turn to the lies of the cult and occult because a true servant of the Lord is not popular even within his own denomination. They dance to the fiddle of the majority who are intrigued by the psychics' predictions, but are deaf to the words and warnings of a true prophet. Thus, the people of America and members of the church are conned by false doctrine. They are inept to scripturally and spiritually deal with the deceptions, lies, lusts, lifestyles, values, behaviors, sins and spirits that are in our society and church.

God is saying that he will bring down (humble, shame) the American people, including many church leaders. Many people in America and members of churches feel immune from the catastrophes that have struck other countries such as war, famine, disease, persecution, etc. But, God is warning that the people, both in society and the Church, will not escape his dealings with them. There are hard times ahead for both the Church and people of America. Great trouble, plagues and persecution lie ahead. This is needed out of God's deep eternal love to give every opportunity for people to repent and prepare themselves for the coming of the Lord.

When there is a lack of righteousness and holiness in peoples' lives, they compromise. They are afraid to speak the truth to others. They lie and give excuses for their unfaithfulness by saying they do not want to hurt people's feelings. You can say it another way, but the truth is, their own relationship with God is lacking. In reality, they do not have the spiritual strength to obey the spirit; nor are they led by the Spirit, but by their own understanding, mentality and flesh. They find it difficult to give godly counsel because, according to his Word, they do not have an intimate relationship with the Author of Truth. Thus, they do not know what the truth is, or if they do, they do not have the spirit (strength) to do or say what he asks of them.

The majority of the Church in America lacks holiness and righteousness. God must and will prepare them for his return. For he will not allow his New Jerusalem to be polluted, corrupt, diseased, poverty stricken, ruled by the vain, immoral or amoral, again. Before his final judgment when people are sentenced to eternal separation or eternal life with him in the New Jerusalem, Jesus will give more opportunity for a change of heart. The American "born again Christian" will be chastened by the Lord and tried by the fire. God will force events to deal with their spiritually weak condition until the American Christian (true believer) will look to the Lord for their strength and call upon the Lord earnestly, not out of some mythical explanation or prayer. Through the changing events and new laws in society, the American believer will be forced of God to take his stand on spiritual and moral truths until they are hated and persecuted by society. The American Christian will not escape having to take his stand and position in the Lord!

Wrong doctrine taught by denominations and pastors will be exposed by time itself, by the Holy Spirit, by the Scriptures, which will finally be studied studiously by the elect instead of just accepted from the pulpit. Many large churches, denominations, church leaders and pastors will fall. They will be rejected both by society and by the believer, for their vain lifestyle and teaching of God's Word. Eventually all godly organized churches and ministries will be shut down as persecution of the true believer takes its full course. As believers have suffered in many countries throughout the world for their faith, so many will now suffer in America.

The Lord Jesus is warning the American Christians that he is preparing to return to earth. Before he returns, he will give more opportunities for both the unbeliever and believer to prepare for his coming. Great trouble will fall on America along with a major Crisis that will change the American lifestyle. He warns that the born again believer will also be challenged by the Lord through the change of events in American lifestyle, calamities and persecution. But through it all the true Church will become holy without spot or wrinkle and learn to trust in Jesus. Amen and amen!

God is saying ...

Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

Act 15:15 -
[b]The words of the prophets[/b] - Amo_9:11-12. It was a very material point with them, as Jews, to inquire whether this was in accordance with the predictions of the Scriptures. The most powerful revivals of religion, and the most striking demonstrations of the divine presence, will be in accordance with the Bible, and should be tested by them. This habit was always manifested by the apostles and early Christians, and should be followed by Christians at all times. Unless a supposed work of grace accords with the Bible, and can be defended by it, it must be false, and should be opposed. Compare Isa_8:20.

Barnes

KrispyKrittr wrote:
There is no doubt that God is and will deal with America's sins. Just wish I had a nickle for every so-called "prophet" who declares the obvious.

Krispy

well, they aren't as bad as the ones who are saying, peace, health, prosperity...sure go ahead and keep sinning, God will BLESS you anyway... :-o

and I'd take a dime ;-)

well, they aren't as bad as ...

If even the 'hard' things are spoken does this lend more credence to it just because of that?

Here is a challenge that I wonder if is ever considered;

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will [b]not endure sound doctrine[/b]; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, [u]having itching ears[/u];

2Ti 4:4 [b]And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables[/b].

2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

And that includes those who would appeal more to our particular liking, denouncing sin, desiring repentance, speaking to the moral woes of our culture ... still, "[i]itching ears?[/i]"

The one large looming question is always this; Do these things [i]sound[/i] like God Himself? The inflection of His voice from what He has already spoken (written), His attributes and character ... Do we know the difference?

crsschk wrote:

well, they aren't as bad as ...

Not to be too didactic but is there any real substantive difference when God has said neither?

If even the 'hard' things are spoken does this lend more credence to it just because of that?

The one large looming question is always this; Do these things [i]sound[/i] like God Himself? The inflection of His voice from what He has already spoken (written), His attributes and character ... Do we know the difference?

To be serious, your point is well taken, Brother. A false prophet is a false prophet. It is very sad to see how many people are caught up in what these people say and seek them for their knowledge. I know people who I believe love the Lord who, for some reason I cannot fathom, believe all these things are from God. I just pray for discernment in these days of deception.

GrannieAnnie said:
And if anything, the false Pastor's and leaders will prosper and the true Saints will be persecuted. The Compromisers buy a little "time" for themselves. No need to say what will happen to them afterwards.

so true...Real prophets are despised, not esteemed of men...at least they were in the Bible.

i am the one who made the title for the post but it is not the prophecy's title.

friends, if you go to the site listed and scroll to the bottom of the page then you can download the complete Word of the Lord spoken through Brother Hansen.

God, through His servant, details places, dates and times.

i'm not one either who follows everyone who claims to be this or that yet i also cannot discard everyone based on those who are false.

prophet hansen preaches pure doctrine and thus far his prophetic utterances for kenya etc etc have been 100% accurate without fail in any single prophetic word.

he also denounces the prosperity gospel and upholds Biblical truth as a lion her cubs.

please take the time to read through the entire message contained on the site at the bottom of the page.

may God bless us with preparation with His warning.

Krispy, can you show us this y2k thing by mr hansen? i have never seen this and thank you in advance for your help.

i have not found hansen or the people talking about him saying he prophesied about y2k.am i missing something?

I do not know the answer to your question...I goggled but could not find any prophecy concerning Y2K and Hansen....

It did, however, remind me of a prophecy made back in the 60's, I think. Some self-proclaimed prophet declared that California will fall off into the ocean. He explained it this way: The area known as California, is a shelf suspended over water. Now all you need is a good earthquake which will cause the area to break off and tumble into the ocean and that it would happen real soon. When I looked at CNN a few minutes ago it did not say anything about it and 40 years have pased since then, but what it did say is about a fire in Dallas...

ginnyrose

i am looking forward to the response on hansen and y2k.

in His Grace.

brethren

greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved. AMEN.

You mean the prophets didn't drive around in Limos or live in mansions?

well this is not necessarily true. Daniel for example was a prophet and lived very well in Nebuchadnezzar's court and even after Nebuchadnezzar died, he lived well because that was our Lord's provision for him. Elijah lived in the wilderness as did John the Baptist. Jeremiah was of royal blood so there were times when he was favoured and lived with the king. Abraham was a prophet also and was a wealthy man. The way a man lives (be it comfort or poverty) doesn't necessarily matter much in terms of "is he a prophet or not" the only thing which matters is that God is the one who appointed him so. If that man speaks what God has given him to speak then God will vindicate His word spoken through that vessel. to be sure though, if someone comes to you saying "pay me and i will prophesy over you." i would not pay that person...money nor mind.

it seems we have a misunderstanding, a persisting one of what it is to be a prophet. To be a prophet doesn't mean that one forth-tells the future. Elijah and Elisha, were prophets but they said little of the future. Samuel, also a prophet, dealt more with day to day things than the future. What then is it to be[i][b]Prophetic or a Prophet of God[/b][/i]? it is simply to convey the feelings of God toward His people to His people. if you read the prophetic books (as they are called, the bible itself is Prophetic as a whole) you will find God pouring His Heart out to a man who relays the information to the people of God. to call nostradamus a Prophet (in the True sense that is, the enemy can counterfeit) is to show a misunderstanding of what the Propetic is and what a Prophet is.

Also it is important to mention that the Prophet of God sees unfolding events and indeed all things through the Eyes of God and thus Sees Truly, that is Sees them in the Context of what God is doing. Jeremiah was at the king's court in Jerusalem and had access to inteligence at the highest levels. He saw these things in Light of what God was doing. So by the same token a Prophet of God today sees things unfolding and is shown what it means as far as what God is doing. Thus to speak of impending economic collapse can be one's task as a Prophet. To be sure, there are those who aren't saved and see this coming and they may not Prophets in the True sense but if God can use an ass to get a word out...One can't dismiss a man as not being a Prophet on account of speaking of such things only, there must be a deeper examination and much seeking God on the matter; it is a terrible thing to reject the word of God for any reason.

sis Mseaman made mention of how Prophets were disdained and this is a mark of a Prophet as long as He is speaking the word of God. It seems to me we read the prophetic books and miss altogether which ones among us are prophets for whatever reason. i suspect that the same spirit of stupor which was on Israel in those days is yet upon us (hence our guilt of the same things) and blinds us to who the Prophets are...

There is also something to be said about receiving the a Prophet in the name of a Prophet and receiving the reward of that. That says that we are to receive he who says he is a Prophet and take him at his word and there is a reward for that.We do this for preachers and teachers...even when sometimes they come out to be false...we are not as keen with the apostles and prophets for some reason...or at least we don't raise up as big a stink with preachers and teachers as we do with Prophets and apostles...are we not as Jealous for the callings of the Teacher and Preacher as we are for the other 2? just something to consider perhaps? Elijah's experience with the gentile woman is i think a good example of this.This is in 1kings 17. the way he responded to her about her making him some bread, "thus saith the Lord" was not something people randomly said (though it was possible and is so) so it is an announcment that Elijah is a man of God. without questioning she did as she was told. later on as he lived with her and her son she came to find out that Elijah was indeed a man of God as she admitted after Elijah was used of God to raise her son from the dead. Of course we are to observe carefully and see what manner of man this is through God's eyes...we must be careful not to do God's job for Him in this regard because we have a propensity to do so. We allow our own prejudices to interfere sometimes. Sometimes it is jealousy, "how could God use that guy?" or maybe there is something about the person we don't like, race, build, speaking voice...anything to excuse us from considering that maybe we ought to take heed and repent...anything but that we may need to press on further. i say this not as an accusation but as one who is guilty of these things speaking to brethren who (if we are honest) are also guilty of such at one point or another. This is an exhortation to us all to be wary of our prides which tend to rear up when God gives us revelation or when we need to press forward...

i guess there is also something to be said about the spirit of the prophets being subject to the prophets. When one is a Prophet, there seems to be a bond there which is unique. i would say it is like being black or white. i'm black (African) and there are some things which i could explain to you in great detail but would remain abstract to you all except you had a similar experience. The same can be said of my bros Krispy (a former jarhead) and Mike Balog, both of whom are white (well Krispy has Cherokee in him), some things they could explain but would be abstract to me...like Krispy's love for (some) rock and roll or other experiences which he has had due to his race and age, Krispy is up there in age y'all :-P

anyhow i pray God that in the midst of this all we don't lose sight of what is Prophetic.

Grace and PEace be ours in Jesus' Name. AMEN.

hello again grannie.

you spoke things of Hansen which you yet have not given us any reference for.

i am only asking because when we say things about others that are gossip then we plant seeds against that person in the minds of others.

i would like you to show us where mr hansen gave a prophecy about y2k as the link you sent has no reference to him doing that at all.

so far his prophetic utterances and doctrine line up with Scripture and self denial and a surrendering to the Lordship of Jesus.

His words from God have been shown to be 100% accurate for entire nations.

please reference your statments for me sister.

i love you in Jesus.

In His Grace

sis Annie

Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved. AMEN.

When i said Prophet's reward i was talking about a reward in Heaven, or a benefit on this side for receiving a Prophet. For example the lady who received Elijah didn't starve while others around her may have. She also received her son back from the dead. Of course you bring a good point in mentioning the reward the Prophets oft got...death. to those who presume themselves Prophets but are not called of God often don't even think that death is very likely. i would dare say that perhaps if we examined their attitudes toward the Cross and what it stands for, that would be quite telling who sent them...

ultimately the Prophet's Concern is whatever God's Concern is without much regard (if any) to the consequences for his life.

I just am very leary of those who tell you they are Prophets. That always means, "look to me" for the "right" answer.

these ones don't bother me so much because being a Prophet, God has extended Grace enough that i may discern what is of Him and what is not. i don't claim to have all the answers...but i do know who does as do we all. when i say i am a Prophet it is not that i am looking for recognition (though for some reason it is sometimes misinterpreted as such) but saying what God has called me to be like a Preacher or Teacher or Evangelist. if it was recognition i wanted, i could go about that in far less painful ways :-P !

really my concern is that the word of God is received. i suppose the message is not necessarily easily separated from the messenger as it seems in most cases, the messenger was made the message by God...

indeed the O.T. Prophet was the one to consult in those days but now that we have Holy Spirit and access to the Throne, the issue is not consulting the Prophet but testing to see if the word which he/she brings is indeed from God because we can go before God and ask. The role remains the same though, the prophet is often sent of God with a word of correction or whatever else God has on His Heart to share. indeed this gift is given for the Perfecting of the Body, that is the proper unification and functioning of it.

I pretty much shot the wad on what I think about this calling earlier but just thinking here - Prophets are one of the Five Ministerial Gifts, but if your Church doesn't have one per chance, I still think that God will use anyone there when needed to speak a word of wisdom or knowledge or even speak God's foreknowledge of a future event. Even through kids.

i don't know how many fellowships have Prophets within them but i know there are some. it seems though that Prophets tend more to be loners given the oft solemn nature of the work required of them.Then also it's not likely that Prophets have followings except the Spirit of God has moved and united people, in that case the Prophet is not a leader as such but functions as a part of the Body. of course the enemy could sow seeds of pride there and mess up something which would otherwise be good. Sometimes though the "followers" as it were need to check themselves lest they deceive themselves and others.All the same, it is the Spirit of God that gives gifts as He will for the Glory of God.

oh by the way i also mentioned Jeremiah as being of royal blood and sometimes in his ministry being taken care of well. i guess being wealthy is not really the issue, well except if the way of gaining it is unscrupulous, then there is cause for concern.

Grace and Peace be ours in Jesus' Name. AMEN

thank you grannie for your kind words and may the Lord bless you today and eternally in Christ.

One MAJOR difference I see between men like Wilkerson, Ravenhill, and two bit prophets who have a message every time the wind blows is that David Wilkerson and Leonard Ravenhill stick to interpreting the times we live in by the way they interpret the scriptures, not because they hear voices every time they grab a microphone or set down at a keyboard.

They also haven't (didn't in bro. Ravenhill's case) made prophetic utterances their business, rather, the exposition of the revealed word of God which is prophetic "par-excellance."

Understand the Word of God properly, believe it completely, live it in the power of the Holy Spirit, preach it correctly and when you die they'll declare you were a prophet to your generation.

Blessings,
Jeremy Hulsey

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The church must remain strong in intercession in 2007 as foundations of faith and Bible absolutes will be challenged by political and humanistic spirits in Christian nations. God will raise up spokespeople who will be a voice for uncompromised truth in the nations. These ones will suffer persecution both in the world and in the church for their righteous stands. A separation will come in the church between those who are fully committed to Bible truth and those who compromise.
Psalms 1 and 2

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Here is a prophecy that I believe, but didn't need this person to say it...just look around. its been challenged for thousands of years. :-(

sis Annie
Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved. AMEN.

IRONMAN, you've said nothing that I don't agree with except for my one personal conviction. Did you read that article by Ravenhill about prophets ??? I just don't think one needs to tell folks that they are, because I think their "words" tell if they are. Only difference of opinion here ... not a condemnation at all ... just a personal conviction, that's all.

i have read the article before and certainly it paints a good picture of what a Prophet is. i would say that there is a great misunderstanding of what a Prophet is which in some cases necessitates an explicit stating of one's calling in that area and explanation of what that entails. This is my conviction which i believe God gave me so that as many as would should come to a proper understanding of this office and function. i feel that this is very necessary and comes with the Jealousy for that office. If it is not defined what a Prophet is, then there is a tendancy for anyone to be labelled as such and often incorrectly. There is a difference in being a Prophet and having the Gift of Prophecy also, some have the latter but are labelled Prophets but are not.

indeed it would seem that the word given by the Prophet would set of buzzers but the testimony of scripture says otherwise.

i hope that shed some light on my convictions concerning this.

Grace and Peace be ours in Jesus' Name. AMEN.

[b]Oba 1:1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.
[u]Oba 1:2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.
Oba 1:3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation [is] high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
Oba 1:4 Though thou exalt [thyself] as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.[/u]
Oba 1:5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave [some] grapes?
Oba 1:6 How are [the things] of Esau searched out! [how] are his hidden things sought up!
Oba 1:7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee [even] to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, [and] prevailed against thee; [they that eat] thy bread have laid a wound under thee: [there is] none understanding in him.
Oba 1:8 Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise [men] out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
Oba 1:9 And thy mighty [men], O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.
Oba 1:10 For [thy] violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
Oba 1:11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou [wast] as one of them.
Oba 1:12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
Oba 1:13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid [hands] on their substance in the day of their calamity;
Oba 1:14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.
Oba 1:15 For the day of the LORD [is] near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
Oba 1:16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, [so] shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.
Oba 1:17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
Oba 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be [any] remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken [it].
Oba 1:19 And [they of] the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and [they of] the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin [shall possess] Gilead.
Oba 1:20 And the captivity of this host of the children of Israel [shall possess] that of the Canaanites, [even] unto Zarephath; and the captivity of Jerusalem, which [is] in Sepharad, shall possess the cities of the south.
Oba 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.[/b]

sis Dorcas
Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved. AMEN.

what i was saying was that when the Prophets of God went forth with His word for the people, one would think the people would get it right away. However the scripture's testimony is that they didn't get it (or few did) because where judgment was spoken of, it came because men didn't repent. The same is true today, we would like to think that we would reeive the words sent to us through the Prophets, but we often don't for whatever reason. Perhaps we don't like the idea of repenting constantly as much as we think we do...i believe that the more we press into God, the more we are quickened to our fallen state and the Grace of God through Christ so that we Repent, repent, repent and repent some more, then after that repent, repent...well you get the idea.

Grace and Peace be ours in Jesus' Name. AMEN.

Regards to everyone that has posted here... and sorry that I'm late to the party. But this issue strikes upon some of my thoughts and feelings.

So far virtually all of this discussion has been about Prophets, whether this man is a false prophet or not, or how to tell false from true prophets, etc.

How about we look past whether this man is a prophet or not (since we cannot judge his soul) and we look at what he has prophecied... or what he claims God has spoken to him?

Can anyone look at what was spoken and dispute with it? And if not, then don't we, as Christians, have a duty to correct those other christians that have this judgement passed upon them? And don't we have a duty to purge ourselves, and judge ourselves, that we can be sure we are not those types of christian?

I think this issue deserves, at the very least, some deep self-introspection.

Quote:

Yay, I say unto thee, if thou wilt confess thy sins and humble thyself and seek my face, I will be merciful unto thee. For you are a beloved people to me, saith the LORD. If you will just seek me saith the LORD, I will pour out a blessing that you will not be able to withstand. The hour is late, the time is far spent, darkness is coming. Oh my people, hearken unto me for I am thy great light and thy salvation. Look to me and no other and thou shalt find pastures that will satisfy your souls. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow you all the days your life. Thus saith the LORD.

You see, anyone can do that. And yet the above words are not false, they are true in every way, it's just hasn't come from the LORDS mind for this time....

Compliments, am I to believe that this Prophecy, which, as I see, contains no ungodliness or error, is false or of the flesh, or worse, of a false spirit?

Am I to believe this because you have said the words are right yet the words are not from the Lord?

What do you base this on?

Do you base this on a word from the Lord, which the man who gave the prophecy also bases his word on?

Do you base this on a subjective feeling which you cannot show to be true, anymore than the man who spoke this prophecy can show to be true (until it comes to pass)?

I do not seek to cause division.I am not seeking to divide yourself and I.

I simply seek to know why you call this prophetic utterance not of God due to your personally not "feeling" it in "your spirit".

This, of course, cannot be trusted, as Scripture alone must be our sole authority, and I see this man's Prophetic utterance as not being against the Revealed word of God.

His word is much more Biblically sound than your "inner witness" which has no Biblical basis.

I'm hurt that you would speak such things openly and publically, calling into question a man whom you do not know nor have prayed with nor have met face to face in the power of the Spirit.

It is a dangerous and harmful thing to speak such to the Body of Christ concerning what could possibly be a correct warning from God.

I am not defending the prophecy as much as I am asking why you would speak such against it, when even you have admitted there is nothing wrong with it, save your "feeling" that it doesn't "speak to your spirit".

Many among us are asleep and cannot hear nor see what the Spirit says and is doing.

Perhaps you may seek the Lord for ears to hear and eyes to see.

I pray we remain bonded in the Spirit of Unity through Him who loved us and gave Himself for us.

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Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved.AMEN.

I do not believe the end of America is nigh, however troubles for America is nigh. The United States hasn't reached it's zenith in total rejection of God. There are many righteous people that still inhabit this great land, that still are making up the hedge and standing in the gap. Many woes will come to a nation that finally rejects God, the bible says that it would be turned into hell.

i believe that troubles are coming upon us which will put an end to America as we know it. in that sense the end is nigh. However the desolation which is coming is not a wiping out of all people here but a Judgment which will put an end to the America we know now that God may bring forth something else.

America has many righteous inhabitants, America's doom is not nigh at hand. America is going to face hardships like she has never had before. And God will be glorified during this time because many will look to Him for answers.

AMEN, this is what i believe also.

Grace and PEace are ours in Jesus.AMEN.

My best friend has just given me a video link on his google account of Prophet Jonathan Hansen.

I pray this video, where he speaks, will bless you.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7270133924852846388

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=1&topic_id=18919&forum=35&post_id=&refresh=Go]Staggering 6 minute video[/url]

See Compton's post.