Please...I am seeking confirmation..though it seems that I get it every morning noon and night, as to whether I am to expose publically on my blog the false teachings,falsely interpreted dreams and visions of Mrs. Rosilund Franklin (who also calls herself Miriam) for the twisted and deceptive works of the darkness that has taken hold of her own soul...I have been interceding for her for just over 3 mos.and wrote her a few small corrections and one rather lengthy one that she did not dare to keep on her site lest her fan club/followers see the truth...I have never done this sort of thing before and I have given God every excuse I could find to opt out..more accurately I do not feel this is a fleshly zeal type of move on my part...I have suffered from deception of many shapes and sizes and rejoice in the clarity that Jesus has given me...it is a horrible thing to be twisted and used of the enemy when your real desire is to do God's will...I felt as though I was the least likely person to do this but it seems that because i know the territory so well it is easy for me to see what is motivating and and guiding the interpretations she gives as of these visions and dreams which are routinely misunderstood and thus misdirected and misinterpreted..I am seeing a very clear connection between the beast(accuser of the brethren )and the false prophet(presenting a false image of Christ Jesus and what He..the True is actually saying to His people about our covenant with all believers and our responsibility to pray for them to be restored..with real faith..not the attitude that is evidenced on this woman's site...God's mercy working through the powerful act of our blessed Lord is the only thing that will keep us from falling from grace in the days to come..those who endure until the end will have to be very very grounded in this truth..God's mercy endures forever...mercy endures...how will we endure? who will endure? Those who do not stray far from mercy..safely tucked under this mighty wing...so I need you to pray and ask God for a word or a witness or a warning for me...that this severe mercy of calling her to cease and desist from cursing the people of God,breaking covenant with God and those of His who may be stumbling as they try to find His way..worse than Balaam..He at least listened to the donkey...anyway...since she has blocked me from pleading with her in private..should I release the audit I have been led to do on her...unraveling the lies of the enemy that are woven throughout the articles and posts and responses to God's people who are either warning or pandering to her. I keep dying to it and handing it back to him and He keeps opening it up further and further...I have from the beginning of being led to her site taken all I have seen to heart(confessing my own sin as there is so much spiritual pride I can identify in my own heart..any is too much for me..it is so good at hiding from me that I need others at times to notice it for me) after I've checked myself as thorughly as I know in the presence of my living Savior/If not more rigorously than I've scrutinized her..I ams till left with what seems to be him asking me to please take it on as though i were correcting a term paper froman underclassman as the student teacher who helps the Teacher do this ness. work.It is facinating and has been no waste as far as the time spent..God is good to reward us when we obey Him..I am still undecided...is it a stategy of God to expose this type of thing in a comprehensive manner that would help the uninitiated( those who do not regularly recieve dreams and visions)learn how to discern by sharing what He has been teaching me...we are moving to anew place..funny it used to house priests years ago..I am of his royal priesthood and I will continue to pray and believe for all who call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to be delivered from deception and delusions of granduer etc...I have known spiritual insanity and believe He is the cure for all these things i am living proof...He will save these to the uttermost of this madness if we will love them love them...yes love them enough to intercede and obey Him in what He shows us to do ...is this what you want me to do My precious Lord Jesus?...please give my brethren witness by your Spirit if it is so. I will not be back on line till the 11th or 12th so if you feel led leave me a word...thanks..even writing this with her name was a leap of faith for me...her website is endtimespropheticword..sorry have to go we are unplugging the computer for a week..pray for me ..my beloved!..Destiny
in the exposing of a false prophet
destinysweet wrote
There is a lot of material on the website, so it is not possible to give you a detailed analysis, but her concerns for things like holiness and righteousness seem genuine.Please...I am seeking confirmation..though it seems that I get it every morning noon and night, as to whether I am to expose publically on my blog the false teachings,falsely interpreted dreams and visions of Mrs. Rosilund Franklin (who also calls herself Miriam)
I did notice that she gave a fairly detailed prophecy about Gloria Copeland, back on August 28, 2007. This is well before the Grassley investigation started. It will take some months, if not years, to see the outcome of that investigation. However, if that does identify any deficiencies in the Copeland ministry it might well confirm the prophecy given. I, therefore, suggest that you wait and see whether this, or any other prophecies that can be clearly proved or disprove, prove false, before denouncing her.
I appreciate that patience is not always it easy, but it is a fruit of the Spirit, and it is a better way than rushing to denouncing someone before it is time. Someone on this website, made prophecies earlier this year which would be fulfilled by the end of 2007, and we are still waiting to see if they are fulfilled. It is better to wait than to rush to judgement.
MikeH
Hi MikeH...
Really? Could you provide a link to that thread? Or better yet -- copy and paste that "prophecy" here? Thanks!Someone on this website, made prophecies earlier this year which would be fulfilled by the end of 2007, and we are still waiting to see if they are fulfilled.
:-)
Hi
I never heard of Rosilund Franklin, and can't find the name on Google. There's a Rosalind Franklin, who was a scientist and is no longer alive, but that was all.
I (and others no doubt) would be interested in any links you can give, in order to help in discernment. For example if she has a website, as well as the prophecy you mentioned. Paul speaks of those who have a like gift judging (= discerning) what is stated prophetically
Maybe you could also [u]summarise
Thanks
Jeannette
That sounds like wise advice, Mike. Do you have the website link? Can you expand on what you said about the Copelands? I know nothing about the Grassley investigation you mentioned, though if there's some exposure of fraud or similar I wouldn't be surprised...
MikeH wrote:
There is a lot of material on the website, so it is not possible to give you a detailed analysis, but her concerns for things like holiness and righteousness seem genuine.I did notice that she gave a fairly detailed prophecy about Gloria Copeland, back on August 28, 2007. This is well before the Grassley investigation started. It will take some months, if not years, to see the outcome of that investigation. However, if that does identify any deficiencies in the Copeland ministry it might well confirm the prophecy given. I, therefore, suggest that you wait and see whether this, or any other prophecies that can be clearly proved or disprove, prove false, before denouncing her.
I appreciate that patience is not always it easy, but it is a fruit of the Spirit, and it is a better way than rushing to denouncing someone before it is time. Someone on this website, made prophecies earlier this year which would be fulfilled by the end of 2007, and we are still waiting to see if they are fulfilled. It is better to wait than to rush to judgement.
MikeH
Thanks
Jeannette
MikeH wrote;
"Someone on this website, made prophecies earlier this year which would be fulfilled by the end of 2007, and we are still waiting to see if they are fulfilled."
Then ccchhhrrriiisss wrote;
"Really? Could you provide a link to that thread? Or better yet -- copy and paste that "prophecy" here? Thanks!"
--- The someones (actually no-ones) would be bro Ironman and myself, in which bro Ironman believes that our Lord has revealed to him that "financial collapse" would occur to America in 2007, with the added defining that our Lord would reveal to bro Ironman it's happening 3 days prior for it's proclamation ... i'd never been one in the past to attach to such a pointed prophecy, but felt unctioned of our Lord to also attach my faith with his in confirmation and culmination to all that i believe i've also heard from Him and have subsequently warned of, and have waited on, for over two decades now, which at the beginning of 2007 opened with hearing in my spirit "This is the year" in which America's idol of it's economy is toppled and that true REVIVAL is about to break forth in a place least expected, and that i was to say so, and have done so in my everyday life as well as posted so here on SI, and informed the Bishop of my assingned fellowship that we will see unmistakable REVIVAL burst forth in our midst before this year is thru inspite of ourselves ...
Bro Ironman has intricate visions which you can find the extent of on his posts re: this on the latter part of "Prophetic Credentials II" and his thread "Prophetic Credentials 3" ...
Mine on the other hand are derived from what "i hear" in my spirit what i belive our Lord says to me especially at the end of and beginning of each year for the past 20, and i occasionally have what i call day visions, images that vividly come into my mind often when i'm at work ... These happened a lot when i was recieving/writing "The Called" ... Anyhow my foretelling is in a number of places on SI, but are pretty much summed up in my above statement ... Being in the final hour of this year bro Ironman and i both know we are shortly about to be proven true prophets of Him or false (which actually would mean we're no prophets at all), "live of memorex", and toward becoming either freer in our ministerial visions, or free of them ... We've both been asked the question "What if it isn't God"?, but have both trudged on because of our own gnawing question "What if it is God" ? ... That verdict is soon to be revealed, but in the final analysis we both agree that all we really want is His will to be done, and that He get all glory no matter what ...
Blessings in our Lord Jesus ---
[url=http://www.propheticwordsrevelation.blogspot.com/]Miriam Franklin blog
Is this the person Destiny is referring to?
Thanks for the link
MSeaman wrote:[url=http://www.propheticwordsrevelation.blogspot.com/]Miriam Franklin blog[/url] Is this the person Destiny is referring to?
At first glance this site doesn't sing with my spirit, even though many of the facts in the prophecies could be correct (the slave girl at Ephesus was correct too!). I also note that people such as Bob Jones are mentioned, isn't he one of the "Kansas City Prophets" who was discredited for immoral behaviour or something...?
Jeannette
I don't know about the timing, but the
Rahman wrote:
...Being in the final hour of this year bro Ironman and i both know we are shortly about to be proven true prophets of Him or false (which actually would mean we're no prophets at all),
But, even if it doesn't happen by the end of this year, I think there's another possibility, other than that you are false prophets. It does seem from Scripture that the Lord is sometimes "flexible" about the timing re things such as judgment, or indeed the return of Christ. He may warn specifically of judgement to come, including the timing, but there is often given the possibility that He may "relent". I don't understand how this "works" but maybe He is, in mercy, witholding judgment for now, giving further time to repent. In spite of speaking through you that it would be this year.
He's done it before, even after giving a prophet a specific word re timing. That happened to Ninevah in Jonah's day for example. (Jonah wasn't best pleased because he felt it made him look a fool because he foretold the destruction of Nineveh within 40 days and it didn't happen!) King Hezekiah was granted 15 more years of life, in spite of the prophetic word, (through no less a prophet than Isaiah!), that he was going to die of his present illness. Wicked King Ahab temporarily "turned over a new leaf" at the prophetic warning of destruction, and God said He would defer execution of judgment until the days of his son.
That attitude in itself suggests that you are men of God - not charlatans or false prophets - even if the timing is mistaken.... We've both been asked the question "What if it isn't God"?, but have both trudged on because of our own gnawing question "What if it is God" ? ... That verdict is soon to be revealed, but in the final analysis we both agree that all we really want is His will to be done, and that He get all glory no matter what ...
If it's correct this next year is going to be very uncomfortable, to say the least! :-(
In Him
Jeannette
Hi Brother Rahman...
Thank you for your response! I must have missed that particular thread. I am extremely interested in the "word of the Lord" as uttered by sincere men of God. I have known men who uttered words that failed to come to pass -- and men whose words came to pass.
As for Sister Jeannette's reference to Jonah, I realize that Jonah's "word" was actually quite limited in scope:
There was no specificities within this word. Rather, Jonah was simply instructed to "cry against" the people of Nineveh. I suppose this is because the Lord often gives us the words at the very moment they are needed, less they be considered "preconceived notions." We learn that after Jonah was released from his fishy prison, the Lord spoke to him again:
[b]1[/b] Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying,
[b]2[/b] Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.
What did Jonah say? The word of the Lord came to Jonah once he opened his mouth"
[b]2[/b] Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
As we know, the city was not overthrown by an advancing kingdom or destroyed. The people of Nineveh "believed God" and repented with fasting in sackcloth.
[b]4[/b] And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said,[b]Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown[/b] .
We know that God is merciful. He can "repent" of a disaster that He would allow to fall upon a place. Often, we confine God to the events that we know will come about in Revelation. Since America is not mentioned in the book, we assume that God will allow the nation to destroyed. Some consider America to be the "Babylon the Great" that will fall in Revelation chapter 18. In fact, there are some supposed prophets (like Brother Kato Mivule) who preach the coming Judgment upon America -- which is often prophesized as "the most sinful nation on Earth" (although I think that there are some nations that are far worse).
However, we need to remember that God is eternal. He is not confined to our understanding of time. While the events of Revelation may include the destruction of America, we don't know the timing of this event. In fact, I don't know that we CAN know the timing of this event. There is room for God to "repent" of his judgment. His judgment can be relinquished by repentance (Jonah 3:9-10) or by the presence of even a small group of righteous believers (Genesis 18:20-33).
I pray that you are not discouraged, my brothers, if your "word" does not come to pass. If it doesn't come to pass, it is possible that you could have not heard this "word" or even "misunderstood" it. It is possible that it was meant to be a warning.
With all due respect for both your sincerity and humility in which you shared this word, I am actually praying AGAINST it. It is not necessarily that I disagree with the word that you uttered. I cannot possibly argue that this prophecy will not come to pass. Rather, I am praying that God will have mercy upon this nation. There is still much good that can come in this nation. I care greatly for my family, my friends, my neighbors, my fellow believers and the people of this nation. I pray that if this is truly a word from the Lord, that the Lord would have mercy upon this land. I am praying for a true revival of passionate hunger for the things of God -- one that is even more special because it is not induced by calamity or disaster.
Be encouraged, brethren, that you do not lose heart if (and when) your words do not suddenly come to pass by December 31st. You are both wonderfully noble men of God. Your words could serve to challenge believers as to whether or not they are ready for a financial disaster that could befall a nation. I am still praying that God does not allow such a stroke of disaster to befall this nation. I am praying that God will wake up the Church to shake off the weights of this world that so easily entangle us and collectively preach again about the greatness of our God.
You are good brothers. I am praying for you just as I pray for this nation.
:-)
[b]9[/b] Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
[b]10[/b] And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.Jonah 3:9-10
[b]4[/b] Then said the LORD, Doest thou well to be angry?
[b]5[/b] So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.
[b]6[/b] And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd.
[b]7[/b] But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.
[b]8[/b] And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.
[b]9[/b] And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death.
[b]10[/b] Then said the LORD, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night:
[b]11[/b] And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?Jonah 4:4-11
Be encouraged, brethren, that you do not lose heart if (and when) your words do not suddenly come to pass by December 31st. You are both wonderfully noble men of God. Your words could serve to challenge believers as to whether or not they are ready for a financial disaster that could befall a nation.
Amazing. I just posted something exactly along these lines in another thread moments ago. Addressed to Rahman and Ironman. It's important for these brothers to know they will still be loved and respected and accepted regardless of what happens or doesn't happen. I think God would have us express this to them at this time. They need to know they will always have a family here on SermonIndex, no one is going to pick up rocks, no one is going to point a gnarled finger and hiss, [i]"False prophets."
I believe the Lord will use December 31, midnight to teach us all something, and I want to be the first in line to bow before Him and [i]learn
WOW!!! I think He's teaching me something right now. And also what will shortly come to pass will teach me and others a little more. RayinPA
bro Chris Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved.AMEN.
bro you said:
We know that God is merciful. He can "repent" of a disaster that He would allow to fall upon a place. Often, we confine God to the events that we know will come about in Revelation. Since America is not mentioned in the book, we assume that God will allow the nation to destroyed. Some consider America to be the "Babylon the Great" that will fall in Revelation chapter 18. In fact, there are some supposed prophets (like Brother Kato Mivule) who preach the coming Judgment upon America -- which is often prophesized as "the most sinful nation on Earth" (although I think that there are some nations that are far worse).
indeed God is Merciful and will at times relent from sending calamity upon people. i wonder though how many times He has relented from sending calamity of such a kind as i believe He is about to on us since 1776. i don't know but believe He has done so on quite a few occasions. the destruction of this nation isn't a thing in which America will cease to exist but will be left like a 3rd world country, with little influence in the world. as for our sinfulness and being worse than others, i believe it to be so not because we do worse things than others because other nations, heathen ones do really wicked things, however that we call ourselves a Christian nation makes it stink all the more before God.
i did post this on another thread before and you didn't respond so i'll summerize it. Israel wasn't the most wicked nation in terms of deeds in the region. Babylon was brutal, sensual, greedy and so on, more so than Israel ever was. however bro Chris, that is to be expected, Babylon was heathen people. However ISrael was Holy unto the Lord, called by His Name and yet did some of what Babylon and the surrounding peoples did to the chagrin of God and bringing down of His Anger. the name of God was blasphemed and mocked by the heathen because the nation of Israel did things they ought not to have done and so God Judged. the same is true for us now, and indeed any nation calling itself a Christian nation, i don't know any other aside America though. so sure Muslim nations persecute Christians or do other wicked things which we don't do, but bro, what you expect from a people who don't know God and are enslaved to the enemy? However for us who call ourselves Christians, we know better and ought to do better. Luke 16 says:
[b][color=0033FF]41 And Peter said to him, `Sir, unto us this simile dost thou speak, or also unto all?' 42 And the Lord said, `Who, then, is the faithful and prudent steward whom the lord shall set over his household, to give in season the wheat measure? 43 Happy that servant, whom his lord, having come, shall find doing so; 44 truly I say to you, that over all his goods he will set him. 45 `And if that servant may say in his heart, My lord doth delay to come, and may begin to beat the men-servants and the maid-servants, to eat also, and to drink, and to be drunken; 46 the lord of that servant will come in a day in which he doth not look for [him], and in an hour that he doth not know, and will cut him off, and his portion with the unfaithful he will appoint.[/color][u][b][color=0033FF]47 `And that servant, who having known his lord's will, and not having prepared, nor having gone according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes, [/color][b][color=0000FF]48 and he who, not having known, and having done things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few; and to every one to whom much was given, much shall be required from him; and to whom they did commit much, more abundantly they will ask of him.[/color]
so it isn't a matter of whether you or i think America isn't as bad as other nations, our view in that respect may be jaded since this is our home and Judgment would change things drastically for us. However that we claim the Faith means we are held to a higher standard, or should i say, The Standard. It is not America only which will be Judged but the world, we hear more about America being Judged because we live here and it affects us directly, i'm sure in England or Australia or wherever else, is Judgment is to come there, those saints hear about more than they hear about it coming here.
However, we need to remember that God is eternal. He is not confined to our understanding of time. While the events of Revelation may include the destruction of America, we don't know the timing of this event. In fact, I don't know that we CAN know the timing of this event. There is room for God to "repent" of his judgment. His judgment can be relinquished by repentance (Jonah 3:9-10) or by the presence of even a small group of righteous believers (Genesis 18:20-33).
yes God can so do but i ask again, how many times has He already relented from Judging us?
I pray that you are not discouraged, my brothers, if your "word" does not come to pass. If it doesn't come to pass, it is possible that you could have not heard this "word" or even "misunderstood" it. It is possible that it was meant to be a warning.
bro if this is "our word" and not God's, it's [i][b]not going
With all due respect for both your sincerity and humility in which you shared this word, I am actually praying AGAINST it. It is not necessarily that I disagree with the word that you uttered. I cannot possibly argue that this prophecy will not come to pass. Rather, I am praying that God will have mercy upon this nation. There is still much good that can come in this nation. I care greatly for my family, my friends, my neighbors, my fellow believers and the people of this nation. I pray that if this is truly a word from the Lord, that the Lord would have mercy upon this land. I am praying for a true revival of passionate hunger for the things of God -- one that is even more special because it is not induced by calamity or disaster.
hey bro i understand your reason for praying against this. for the longest time i sought God for the same MErcy you seek now and i didn't hear back from Him until one day He just said in essence stop that coz His hand will not be stayed. Bro i left it alone and asked that He Save as many as possible before, during and after all this. i ask again, how many times has God [i][b]already relented
Be encouraged, brethren, that you do not lose heart if (and when) your words do not suddenly come to pass by December 31st. You are both wonderfully noble men of God. Your words could serve to challenge believers as to whether or not they are ready for a financial disaster that could befall a nation. I am still praying that God does not allow such a stroke of disaster to befall this nation. I am praying that God will wake up the Church to shake off the weights of this world that so easily entangle us and collectively preach again about the greatness of our God.
the only reason i'd be sad is that my foolishness will have given people occasion to blaspheme God's Name. Zimbabwe has endured such a Judgment already and many are finding God.that the financial sector is in the mess its in speaks of our wickedness and such can't continue without consequence. part of the Judgment of God is being given over to reprobocity...some pretty reprobate stuff has been going on without much consequence and at some point it's going to hit the fan...
perhaps we think we will somehow be spared because we have not realized how many times we have already been spared... :cry:
26 days to go and counting...
Grace and Peace are ours in Jesus.AMEN.
bro Paul
Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved.AMEN.
you said:
Amazing. I just posted something exactly along these lines in another thread moments ago. Addressed to Rahman and Ironman. It's important for these brothers to know they will still be loved and respected and accepted regardless of what happens or doesn't happen. I think God would have us express this to them at this time. They need to know they will always have a family here on SermonIndex, no one is going to pick up rocks, no one is going to point a gnarled finger and hiss, "False prophets." And if someone does, I pray a moderator will take care of that immediately.
it is comforting to know that if we're the ones who have gone off the deep end, we will be still welcome here. that is good to know, however i'll not be running around here saying anything like i've been saying over the last couple of yrs, that's for sure. so nobody has to throw and rocks coz we'll be laid down. Lord knows i wouldn't make a fuss if anyone did, i would hope that after it all, or better yet, more than anything y'all would bombard heaven on our behalf that we get set straight...some have aleady thrown rocks...lots of them too...so if it turns out i'm wrong, then those rocks were deserved, if not however...
I believe the Lord will use December 31, midnight to teach us all something, and I want to be the first in line to bow before Him and learn. God would have us embrace these dear brothers, and he would have us examine our own hearts and see that none of us are better or worse outside of Christ Jesus, and they are in Christ as we are, and we love them and show mercy as God loves them and shows mercy.
wow! i pray we all see that there is none better nor worse and remember that there but for the Grace of God...
thanks bro
Grace and Peace are ours in Jesus.AMEN.
ccchhhrrriiisss - I think the link that you requested has been provided.
Little gift asked:
I think the link has also been provided. If you want to get the latest on Grassley go toDo you have the website link? Can you expand on what you said about the Copelands? I know nothing about the Grassley investigation you mentioned
MikeH
I am Miriam Franklin, the person that Destiny Sweet has posted about re my site www.endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com
I am known as 'Miriam' not 'Roselind' so please correct this asap.
Please note the following:
I have posted a lot of articles about the false prophets such as Bob Jones and Paul Cain and Kim Clement etc that are critical on my site. The person that 'discerned' that my website was off because she spotted articles about him and his cronies was unwise to not check what I had actually written about these people first! If you are going to discern then discern properly by biblical standards by what is actually said and the spirit it is said in, and not by a couple of seconds worth of click of the mouse or by 'feelings'!
Re Destiny Sweet - who has an axe to grind because they jumped to some silly and ridiculous and untrue and unbiblical conclusions and had claimed I had said something I had never said - this is evident to everyone who wants to go and look at her comments on the site. After being corrected gently and being shown they had jumped to the wrong conclusion Destiny Sweet jumped to even worse conclusions and left some damming false 'prophecies' about me (because I did not listen to Destiny Sweet's 'wisdom') which were totally false (and obviously so to almost anybody), that were written from their own embittered spirit and were also unbiblical. Some I allowed to be posted, others are deleted - but they were ranting false prophecies that did Destiny Sweet no favours at all and made them look a complete fool. Destiny jumps to the wrong conclusions based on bad understanding and 'prophesies' according to these misunderstandings - a good example of what a false prophet is!
Here is the dialogue from the site with Destiny, who is far from 'sweet' as can be seen - and all for being corrected about some initially minor things!
The dialogue is in REVERSE order from latest to first,I do not include their last false prophecy:
endtimespropheticwords said -
Destiny Sweet: you posted a very long ranting false ‘prophesy’ about me over the last day or two which I will not allow to be posted as it is full of lie upon lie, it is obviously untrue and shows little understanding about anything Biblical or prophetic. You would be a made a fool of by posting it here as it is utter ranting nonsense, that even a relatively new Christian would see was twaddle, plus I will not continue to give Satan a voice through you here. I have allowed you more ’slack’ so far on this topic here and other topics elsewhere on the site where you have been so wrong and made slanderous accusations to justify your ignorance, because you do not seem to understand things at all well - even the elementary - and I have tried to clarify matters for you and encouraged you not to assume and not be so hasty, and not to continue in ignorance but rather seek the truth and wisdom, but despite this you refuse to admit you were wrong, or see how you continue to be so wrong. You are ignorant about me, my motives, what I have said and not said, and God and his ways, and then you dare to assume to call yourself a prophet to vindicate your own darkened twisted misunderstandings! You are neither spiritual or prophetic and I rebuke you, and the Lord rebuke you too, as well as the Lord rebuke Satan who twists your mind to be so darkened and vindictive and far from ’sweet’.
Destiny Sweet, come into the light and stop playing at Christianity or ‘prophesying’. Love the truth more than your own reputation. You are wrong, admit it and stop lying against the Holy Spirit and compounding your sin still further by falsely propheysing! Do you think God is a fool? Does he not know the heart and your intentions? Repent!
endtimespropheticwords said -
Destiny Sweet:
>PLEASE BE WILLING TO SAY THAT YOU GET FRUSTRATED,THAT YOU LOSE PATIENCE AND ARE NOT ABLE TO BE KIND AND GENTLE SOMETIMES
I say it yet again to you Destiny, you and many others in the modern church are not used to boldness and confrontation and getting right to the point, and people dealing with the real hearts and minds of people, and cutting to the quick. You would have accused Jesus and many others of the disciples of not being kind or gentle. Just who called who a brood of vipers and turned over the tables of the money changers? Boldness is not necessarily ‘unkind’. Where I have been bold it is not from ‘frustration’ or ‘losing patience’ or ‘inability to be kind or gentle’ as you wrongly (and naively) accuse me of - it is being bold and cutting to the quick and calling a spade a spade or a hypocrit a hypocrit where I have seen the rank hypocrisy in a heart. I am not going to be intimidated into calling black white for anybody - least of all to those like you who claim it is ‘unloving’ to boldly say black is black.
I expect you mean well, and I do appreciate your prayers that notwithstanding, BUT you misunderstand me and judge be by your own standards and assumptons, not to mention your appallingly basic misunderstandings of what I do and say (as we have discussed on another post). I ask you once again, please step back, take your blinkers off and think more before accusing me of anything.
There is a religious spirit on here, manifested through one person in particular which is what I have been confronting. It is this spirit - not this person - that I despise. I do not hate him as a person, but I will call him for what and who he currently is. We hate the sin, but not the sinner. I do not say what I do because he is a man but because of his heart and spirit and sinful and unspiritual attitudes. I do not claim all men or women who disagree with me have this attitude, far from it, and indeed I have not been bold with others about their attitudes for this reason - that is because their attitudes don’t reek even where they do disagree with me.
It is not wrong to think or discuss anything through properly!
Destiny Sweet said -
SORRY ABOUT THE UPPERCASE IT SEMMED EASIER FOR ME TO TYPE IT THIS WAY IT IS NOT TO BE MISCONSTRUED AS RAISING MY VOICE OR BEING OVERBEARING! THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE..I AM LEARNING.
Destiny Sweet said -
LOVING YOU MARIAM! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING YOURSELF IN THE LINE OF FIRE FOR THE SAKE OF THE TRUTH! WHAT ALOT OF ABUSE YOU PUT UP WITH…YOU AND I HAVE DISAGREED ABOUT A FEW THINGS,WHICH I WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU AT A LATER TIME…I HAVE WANTED TO CONTINUE TALKING TO THE LORD ABOUT WHAT I WAS GIVEN TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND HE HAS BEEN GIVING ME ALOT FOR YOU,I ALSO HAVE BEEN CHECKING OUT MY OWN HEART AND MOTIVES TO BE CERTAIN THAT I AM NOT OVEREACTING,BEING TOO MUCH OF A PERFECTIONIST/LEGALIST,AND AS I AM NEW TO THE INTERNET(JESUS ASKED ME TO SEE HOW THE ‘CHURCH’WAS PROGRESSING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WISE)I AM MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH BEING ABLE TO SEE THE OTHER PERSONS EYES AND TO HEAR THEIR TONE OF VOICE,BODY LANGUAGE ETC AND SO AS I HAVE BEEN READING I HAVE BEEN ‘HEARING’ AND SENSING ALOT OF THINGS THAT ARE SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO EXPOSE OR EXPLAIN WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOUNDING COLD OR SOMETHING WORSE. ALSO I CAN SEE HOW WHAT MIGHT FEEL TO SOMEONE AS DEDICATED AS YOURSELF AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEBATE AND THE EDUCATION OF THE UNLEARNED ACTUALLY COMES OFF AS A MINIWAR OF SORTS WITH NAMECALLING,ACCUSATIONS FLYING AND DOWNRIGHT STUBBORN PIGHEADEDNESS(CONTENTIOUS EVEN).THE EFFORT YOU PUT OUT TO TRY TO PRY THE BLINDERS OFF THESE FOLKS IS STAGGERING AND TO BE FAIR I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THEY FEEL THAT YOU ARE JUST AS BLIND…HOWEVER BOTH SIDES DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SIMPLY YEILD SO AS NOT TO FALL INTO SIN AND CAUSE CONFUSION TO THE REAL BABES WHO COME HERE LOOKING FOR A CHRISTLIKE EXAMPLE.i DEFINATELY DO NOT WANT TO ADD TO THIS FREEFORALL AND SO.. NOT TO CRITICIZE BUT RATHER TO PERHAPS LIGHTEN YOUR LOAD ,IF I COULD,(JESUS HAS BEEN HAVING ME PRAY DAY AND NIGHT FOR YOU..FOR OVER A MONTH NOW AND MINE AT THIS TIME IS THE LUXURY TO SIT AT HIS WONDERFUL FEET LIKE MARY VS. A MORE MARTHA-LIKE LIFESTYLE..AND HE HAS BEEN ASKING ME TO CAREFULLY READ AND REREAD YOUR WRITINGS AS I AM ALSO SPENDING MANY HOURS IN THE WORD.I AM A SURRENDRED AND OBEDIANT SERVANT AND I LOVE THE TRUTH AND ALWAYS LOOK TO JESUS FOR THE LAST WORD ON EVERYTHING…HE IS MY STONG TOWER ,MY SHIELD AND MY TRUST IS IN HIM) MARIAM DO YOU NOT ALSO DISCERN A RELIGIOUS SPIRIT OPERATING HERE? YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT IF THAT SPIRIT CAN GET YOU CAUGHT UP IN A VERBAL SPARRING MATCH KEEPING YOU FOCUSED ON TRYING TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THEY ARE BOUND AND HELD CAPTIVE BY…AND IS USING THEM TO KEEP YOU OCCUPIED,TAX YOUR PATIENCE TILL YOU ARE LOSING YOUR COOL,ROBBING YOU OF YOUR JOY,PERHAPS CAUSING CONFUSION TO SOME WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE BATTERING THAT STARTS TO TRANSPIRE BETWEEN YOU AND WHOMEVER…YOU GET THE DRIFT.. THE POINT YOU ASK? SIMPLE…WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS THING,GIRLFRIEND, AND WITH FAITH AND POWER! I TOLD YOU I AM FOR YOU AND I MEANT IT. WE GET THE HARD STUFF BECAUSE WE ARE QUALIFIED TO GO THERE, BUT LET US NOT ALLOW THE ENEMY TO USE OUR ENTHUSIASM TO ENCOURAGE,EQUIP,INSTRUCT AND(TOUCHIER) TO CORRECT,OUR DEEP AND ABIDING KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WAY AND OUR HUGE DESIRE TO BE OF SERVICE(A BLESSED STRENGTH ) BE SUBTLY TWISTED OUT OF CONTROL (BECOMING INSTEAD A GREAT WEAKNESS)TO WAR IN FLESH FOR HOURS UPON HOURS OF TIME THAT COULD BE PUT TO BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE USE. YOU NEED TIME MARIAM, FOR YOUR FAMILY AND YOURSELF! I KNOW HOW YOU LOVE TO BE ALONE WITH JESUS!I REALIZE THAT YOU TOO ARE ONLY JUST RECENTLY FINDING YOUR WAY (ON HAVING AND EXPANDING THIS SITE) AND YOU ARE UNDOUBTABLY A MUCH FASTER TYPER THAN I AM AND YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT EXPESSING YOURSELF…A LITTLE TOO GOOD SOMETIMES…I’M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW…PLEASE BE WILLING TO SAY THAT YOU GET FRUSTRATED,THAT YOU LOSE PATIENCE AND ARE NOT ABLE TO BE KIND AND GENTLE SOMETIMES…PLEASE BE TRANSPARENT AND ASK HIM AGAIN TO GIVE YOU MORE OF HIS HUMILITY…I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE NOT..WE ARE ALL ,WHO WALK AND TALK WITH HIM CONSCIOUSLY AND CONSISTANTLY,HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND DISCIPLINED BY HIS HOLY SRIRIT TO BE THIS WAY,WERE CREATED TO BE THE WAY WE ARE,SEEING AND HEARING…STRONG AND IMMOVABLE..WE ARE ALL BEING DRAWN DEEPER AND MORE PURELY INTO HIS IMAGE…NO OTHER WILL DO.HE IS GENTLE AND HUMBLE OF HEART..HE DOES NOT RETURN INSULTS OR RAIL AT US WHEN WE ARE WRONG…HE IS PATIENT…SO VERY PATIENT..MAY WE MATURE TO HAVE MORE OF THIS PERFECT FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT,HIS SPIRIT THAT IS ABLE TO SET THOSE HELD CAPTIVE BY THE TRADITIONS OF MEN AND THE DOCTRINES OF DEMONS..ALL OF THEM! WE KNOW THAT GOD WANTS TO USE US ALL TOGETHER AS A TEAM..WE ARE THE CHURCH JOINTLY FIT TOGETHER BEING RAISED UP TOGETHER…HIS BODY…HE IS THE HEAD…THOSE WHO ARE SPIRITUAL KNOW HOW JESUS FEELS ABOUT THE ARCHAIC RELIGIOUS LAWS THAT HAVE KEPT HIS WOMEN FROM DOING GOD’S PERFECT WILL.SINCE MARIAM HAS RIGHTLY INTERPRETED THE SCRIPTURES FOR YOU…THIS IS NO NEW INTERPRETATION BTW NOR IS IT SPOKEN ABOUT BY ONLY WOMEN.I WILL ONLY ADD THESE TWO CONCEPTS TO PERHAPS BLESS THOSE WHO WOULD RECIEVE WHAT THE SPIRIT HAS GIVEN TO ME.WHEN EVE SINNED AS A RESULT OF DECEPTION,SHE WAS CURSED…IT IS TRUE AND AS OUR DILLIGENT SISTER WAS ABLE TO POINT OUT…YEA …I SAW THAT TOO..HE WOULD RULE OVER HER IN THAT FALLEN STATE…BOY, HAVE TIMES CHANGED SINCE THAT DARK DAY…SINCE THEN JESUS CAME, LIVED PERFECTLY AND THEN HE DIED PERFECTLY,BECOMING A CURSE,BEARING EVERY CURSE,EVERY SENTENCE OF DEATH THAT WAS UPON US…AS IT WAS WRITTEN, CURSED IS HE WHO HANGS UPON A TREE…MARIAM CAN DIRECT YOU DOUBTERS TO THE ACTUAL SCRIPTURAL ADDRESSES…GOSH IF I WEREN’T SUCH A LOWSY TYPER I’D GO ON AND ON PULLING OUT EVERY SINGLE LIBERATING VERSE OF WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED ON THE CROSS TO WRITE HERE AS IT IS I WILL CONTINUE TO BOLDLY SPEAK THEM OVER US ALL AND WILL CONTINUE TO REJOICE IN THE WORD OF OUR TESTIMONY.A MIGHTY TESTIMONY TO STAND AGAINST AND OVERCOME ANY AND ALL ACCUSERS,CONDEMNERS AND MOCKERS,BECAUSE IT IS OF THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB AND THIS IS THE MOST POWERFULLY AMAZINGLY WONDROUS GIFT HE EVER WILL GIVE US (UNTIL THE DAY WHEN WE NEVER HAVE HIM OUT OF OUT SIGHT AGAIN BECAUSE WE DO LOSE SIGHT SOMETIMES OF HIS PERFECT WAY…WE ARE HIS STUDENTS..HE IS OUR TEACHER…IF WE ARE NOT WILLING TO BE TAUGHT BY WHOMEVER GOD SENDS (TO CROSS OUR PATH) TO TEACH US,THEN HE SAYS WE ARE NO LONGER QUALIFIED TO TEACH.)AGAIN WEIGH IT AND PRAY EARNESTLY WITH A WILLING HEART TO BE WRONG IF IT IS SO,ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO MUST RELY ON THE COMMENTARIES OF MENOR WOMEN TO TEACH THEM WHAT JESUS SAID YOU WOULD NEED NO MAN TO TEACH YOU.HIS LAWS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ON OUR MINDS AND OUR HEARTS,IF I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE IF I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW JESUS,ELIJAH,MOSES,OR PAUL…I WOULD ALWAYS CHOOSE JESUS. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE POWERFULLY PROPHETIC,THO FOR THE MOST PART COMPLETELY MISSED, MESSAGE IN THE 1ST ACTION OF JESUS UPON RESURRECTION.WE ARE TAUGHT TO OBSERVE WHAT MOST PEOPLE MISS WHEN WE ARE TRAINED TO WALK IN THE SPIRIT,AND PROPHETIC PEOPLE BECOME MORE AND MORE ADEPT AT SEEING THE DEEPER MEANINGS UNDERLYING OR EVEN PRONOUNCED BY SOMETIMES MOVEMENT ALONE..NOT JUST GOD’S WORD IN A VERBAL,SPOKEN OR WRITTEN SENSE,BUT THE VERY MOVEMENT ITSELF…IN EXAMPLE…THE BODY OF JESUS ANNOINTED W/OIL FOR HIS BURIAL..(WHICH HE HAD TO SPELL OUT FOR THOSE WHO WERE ACCUSING THE WOMAN WHO WAS SIMPLY FLOWING PROPHETICALLY,AS THEY WERE TOO BLIND OR GEEDY TO PERCIEVE THE SACRED MOMENT FOR WHAT IT TRULY WAS…TALK ABOUT QUENCHING THE HOLY SPIRIT!…HUH?)OUR JESUS IS THE LIVING WORD,HALLELUJAH!AND WHAT IS MORE INTERESTING THAN HIS DEATH AND ALL IT ACCOMPLISHED,ENTAILED? HIS RESSURECTION AND HIS VERY 1ST MOVEMENTS ARE ALSO ON THE VERY TOP OF MY LIST…WHO HE CHOSE TO APPEAR TO AND WHY …A DISCIPLE/FOLLOWER WHO WAS A WOMAN,AND AN UNMARRIED WOMAN AT THAT(NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE ALSO ONCE HAD..WAS IT 7 DEMONS CAST OUT OF HER…APPARENTLY THIS DID NOT DISQUALIFY HER FOR THIS INCREDIBLE HONOR AS FAR AS JESUS WAS CONCERNED)HERE WE SEE JESUS HONORING THE FEMININE(THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW YOUR HEBREW NAMES FOR GOD KNOW THERE IS THE MASCULINE AND THE FEMININE ASPECT OF THE GODHEAD,SOMETIMES USED TOGETHER ELOHIM AND
ALSO SEPERATELY AS IN SHEKINAH..THO I’M SURE THAT MARIAM COULD DO A BETTER BREAKDOWN OF THIS)I WILL HAVE TO GO FURTHER WITH THIS ANOTHER TIME AS IT HAS GROWN LATE AND THE COMPUTER IS IN MY COLLEGE AGE DAUGHTER’S ROOM,I MUST BE CONSIDERATE OF HER NEEDS. SO WHAT DO YOU SAY MARIAM,WILL YOU RECIEVE MY HEART IN THIS MATTER.DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THOUGH I AM NOT AS ADEPT AT WRITING THIS IMPORTANT ASPECT THROUGH THIS METHOD…PEN AND TABLET/VERBAL FLOW IS MORE MY FORTE..THAT I AM AN ALLY AND ONE WHO IS LOATHE TO SEE YOU BE ….FILL IN THE BLANK…WE ARE TO PROTECT ONE ANOTHER AND TO MOVE TOGETHER AS WE ARE ONE BODY,ONE LORD,ONE SPIRIT! IRON SHARPENS IRON….ALSO DON’T YOU LOVE …BEHOLD,I DO A NEW THING…WATCH AS IT SPRINGS FORTH…A WOMAN SHALL ENCOMPASS A MAN…NOW LOOK UP THE WORD ENCOMPASS..LOOKING FORWARD TO SPURRING ONE ANOTHER ON…MAY WE ALL WATCH OVER ONE ANOTHER PROTECTIVELY AND WITH THE COMPASSION THAT IS OUR INHERITANCE IN HIM WHO LOVES US SO!
endtimespropheticwords said -
Destiny Sweet:
>As for the capital P word
You completely misunderstand me still, just like you misunderstood me TOTALLY on the dancing issue. You could not have been more wrong then, and likewise now. I do not mean anything by using a capital letter other than to differentiate ministry from gifting in the article. If you heard the Holy Spirit speak anything to you, it was with regards to your misunderstanding what I am saying, not witnessing to the wrongs of what I say, for I said nothing wrong, and know this.
I do not imply any special status on the prophet, which you would know if you read any of the rest of this site with an open mind much more carefully than you already have. Do we write your name with a capital letter and not mean anything idolatry by it??? Do we take away from Jesus because of it? Of course not.
>as for categorizing me in the way that you have,I would correct you there,as it appears you have not asked Jesus what I have suffered for His name sake and are presuming much.
I have not categorised you anyhow. Did I ever say you have not suffered for his name’s sake? When was that even mentioned here?! All I said was that you misunderstand me and still do! What am I presuming to point out this? How was I brusque or rude to you? I was not! When did I attempt to ‘cow’ you by my brusque replies? Why are you offended by me correcting your faulty understanding of what I am saying? You claim I say something, I say I do not, and yet you call me presumptive, unenquiring of the Lord, rude, brusque, bullying and immature now in addition to everything else because I say you are wrong, when you are - clearly. Just who is the one with the problem here? I dare to say it is you that through your life’s wounds who cannot see the wood for the trees and has a bit of a persecution complex so when anyone says you are wrong you think we say a whole host of things back to you that we have not. Listen to me! I have never said these things to you. I have not been rude to you. I have said you were wrong and gave the specific reasons for it! How is that wrong of me? Shall I agree I was wrong when I was not just to make you happy?
Thanks for the correction - you did what you thought was right - but your correction is completely erroneous. If you still claim the Holy Spirit told you these things about me, then you confuse the voice of your flesh with the voice of God as your flesh is causing your confusion and misunderstanding in these things. And that is the truth.
>Jesus taught me that sarcasm was not of God
You are wrong, there is and can be a place for it. I ask you again to read what Elijah said - he was sarcastic and he mocked on top of Mount Carmel. Paul was too sometimes and reread the parables which are also sarcastic in places.
I am more often bold, honest and confrontational than sarcastic anyway. It is true that the modern church is not used to boldness and confrontation, and you cannot see what I say for what it actually is. I am sure you see many more motives, agendas and theologies that are not even there if you can misunderstand the two basic things I have corrected you on.
lacking in God’s heavenly wisdom is powerless to bring conviction
Really? You are totally wrong on this one. Strong words can, in their place, cut right to the heart and bring conviction and be FULL of the Spirit of God. Likewise anger can be good and godly and from the spirit of God. Do you not know this?
> I believe that you are immature in your gifts and your calling
Really? And you say this because….? Because you are not very good at discerning at what I am actually saying? It is true we all need to grow, and none of us are perfect, but you say I am immature because I disagree with you and dare to say you are wrong and are using poor interpretation and a bad theology on some counts? But it seems you do not even understand the basics of what I even say and you misunderstand the voice of the spirit and the flesh. Perhaps you need to take more time to reflect on what I really say rather than what you think I say before you bring your correction. Or reflect on my true heart rather than what you think is there. I do no mind being corrected (where appropiate), neither do I mind you saying anything to me. But don’t look foolish and attempt to correct me for something I have not even said or done! Take a step back and think more carefully on what is actually said - please!
Destiny Sweet said -
Thank you for pointing out where I’d misunderstood what you meant. I realize that upon re-reading it that I somehow got the impression you did not believe in dancing as a valid expression of worship. I am able to see that this has been an area where I have been ruthlessly attacked/maligned/persecuted and thus I am sensitive to a fault…my bad…I treasure humility and rejoice in correction that the Truth is made manifest within. As for the capital P word:When I read your post on prophetic min. I remember hearing the Holy Spirit say this is not correct to word it in this way..There is only One,Jesus, who is worthy of the higher case distinction.You can choose to recieve this or not…remember we are not infallible…as for categorizing me in the way that you have,I would correct you there,as it appears you have not asked Jesus what I have suffered for His name sake and are presuming much. As I have talked with the Lord about you and how I could be of service to you, over the last few weeks,I could see many things about you that are so similar to myself,and much of what you have seen I have been seeing for decades (though there are differences). I am in appreciation for your efforts and your boldness to confront but I must beg to differ concerning sarcasm.Long ago Jesus taught me that sarcasm was not of God in that it is not pure,nor is it peaceable.He says it is born of the sin of unforgiveness,it is mocking and dishonoring,filled with cynical bitternes and resentment and is an evil tool of the proud who are still wallowing in their woundedness,a soulish thing full of the anger of men but falling short of the righteousness of God and His kingdom,and lacking in God’s heavenly wisdom is powerless to bring conviction as it devoid of the true mercy and compassion of the High Priest’s call upon his beloved to pray and to bear one another’s burden. I believe that you are immature in your gifts and your calling,I am as well…none of us has ‘arrived’ dear one..we need one another to see ourselves clearly, at least consider prayerfully what is being brought to our attention.Why Lord are they saying this? is what this person saying true? does this sin reside in me? Am I contributing to their inability to recieve what you’ve shown me? I will write more as the Spirit allows..but know this…I am for you,however if I remain silent or am cowed by your brusque replies..then I have failed you and our King who would present us all without spot or wrinkle at His appearing.May God be glorified in our words to one another,my sister,may we humble ourselves,submit to one another and be willing to be shown in truth where we need to be more like Jesus. I am willing Lord! Have your way!
endtimespropheticwords said -
Destiny Sweet: If you read my post on prophetic ministry you would know exactly what I meant about prophets with a capital P. It is a way of differentiating those who operate in the gift from those in the ministry.
There is nothing incorrect in what I have said. Thanks for the correction but you have completely misunderstood this. I have never ever said anything to take away from Christ’s priesthood, if you read this in anything I have said you are making assumptions based on things that are not there.
You do not like sarcasm, well sarcasm can be used very effectively to cut to the heart and is used in scripture - what do you think Elijah was doing on Mount Carmel? My words may be direct and to the point and even seem cutting sometimes to you - but so were Jesus’ words. He did not hate anybody but his words could be strong. They were still delivered with love and compassion. You (and the rest of the church) are just not used to being confronted.
Destiny Sweet said -
P.S. awhile back I noticed an error and have prayed about whether to bring it to your attention or not…then it came up again when I was journaling…Jesus wanted you to know there is only ONE capital “P” Prophet…that would be Him, those called before the foundation of the world to be prophets/prophetess need to keep this in mind,just as He is the only High Priest where as we are a holy priesthood because He has made us holy.It’s all about Him,not us ,as you well know,so when it comes to correction let us love mercy and recieve it as well as we measure it out. I keep you in my prayers. My heart is broken for the way so many are being decieved and deluded,I know 1st hand His faithfulness to save and deliver, the extremes He goes to rescue His beloved ,when blinded ,we fall into the hands of the enemy,Please my sister, hate no one! speak the Truth ,but Do It In Love,your sarcasm is grievious to bear!
Destiny Sweet said -
Greetings sister, His Name is as ointment poured forth! I found myself getting such a question mark? over a few things you said concerning 1.Jesus not being the Lord of the Dance.Perhaps you have said more about this in something you have already written about in greater detail,however I will not assume upon this premise. It is quite scriptural to dance before the Lord in praise and worship…see your concordance under dance.You remember how Mical,David’s wife…Saul’s daughter was cursed by God to be barren thereafter when she scolded David for not being dignified and dancing w/the peasants after a great victory?They even had special woman(temple dancers who were kidnapped at Shiloh…In that very telling story at the end of the book of Judges…what an incredible travesty…this story of the concubine,male arrogance and cowardice,desicration of the dead and the way men justify themselves when they create wars never fails to remind me that we must always rightly divide between soul and spirit when reading anything. I was reminded of a time when I was asked to come and minister at a Renaissance Faire 79/80 on the North shore of Oahu and being that many of the songs that I was geting from the Holy Spirit had a “different era” sound I was emboldened to go.However the one song that I liked the most was one put to the tune of “Tis A Gift to Be Simple” or ‘Turn Round Right” that someone else had penned called “The Lord Of the Dance” comprised of 4 or 5 stanzas that told the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ in a very clear way…It was what I chose to perform on the stage and I could tell that the cool and groovy hipsters were not happy to hear it and though I was tempted to cut the message and the song short,I plowed my way through,shaking a bit because of how intense the atmosphere felt….this proved to be the beginning of a lifetime (nigh 30 yrs.) of boldness to speak whatever,sing whatever Jesus asked/led me to.So you can see some things we can say may have special meaning (to me and Jesus,the Comforter and all the angels who are assigned to me it certanly does)and be recorded in heaven as a blessed thing
[b]Miriam...
My prayer for this discussion is that it does not become a platform for two people to go at each other over something that appears to be personal. From what I'm able to tell, both you and "Destiny" have blogs and other means on the internet in which to offer your views about each other. Hopefully it will not spill over into this forum because that is not what this forum is here for.
Since you were personally attacked on this thread it is understandable that you would want to clarify whats going on. I think you had a right to do that. I would do the same thing. But I'm not sure this discussion should continue beyond this point. We should let the moderators of this forum make that decision.
Personally I've never heard of either of you, nor have I had time to look into this whole issue (mainly because I dont care). I just pray that the grace and mercy of our Lord will open the eyes of whoever is in the wrong, and bring the two of you together in fellowship... a fellowship that is based on the truth of the Bible, and nothing else.
Krispy
To all you saints who have offered such a balm of kindness to bro Ironman's and myself i want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart and to express how much i appeciate your warmness ... Bro Ironman's words express my heart also so there isn't any more that i can add except that if we're proven to be of our own foolishness tho i'd be intrigued as too how i could have self-induced a 20+ year delusion, as bro Ironman alluded the only reason i'd be sad is that i'd attached God's name to my own apparent folly ...
One of you (bro Chris i believe) said you're praying against what bro Ironman and i believe the Lord has spoken to us ... It's the same reaction i've gotten from many i personally know, and yep i can totally understand why ... i've thought on a few occasions that perhaps it wouldn't be so bad to be proven wrong in that the closer we get to years end the more and more vivid my day visions become of the life shattering effects of His correction on us via the toppling of our major idol of economy ... The awe in it all is that i know it will be far worse than even what i believe He's showing me in spirits eye as with bro Ironman's vision of falling fire i believe somehow God's unmistakeable hand will be revealed in His pushing us off this precarious financial tightrope we're on ... So as i say to bro Ironman as of late there's really nothing else to talk about regarding this, His will be done, and may He recieve all glory no matter what".
Blessings of divine favor and protection to you and yours in the beloved name of our Jesus ...
someone estimated there are 2921 different combinations possible to order a hamburger.
If we take the Spirit of God out of the equation someone estimated you can have your prophecy 2921 different ways.
if the abuse doesnt stop we will end up where we were.[the four fold ministry] which is the deaf and dumb church.
we need the office of paul to oversee the "words" handed to the church.
when i hear "we need discernment" , what I really hear is "dont prophecy out of my understanding"
Assuming that Jesus is right 100% of the time[which he is] where do these "words" come from?
Folks we have two choices.Jesus or "pickles"
David
Thanks for the link
LittleGift wrote:
MSeaman wrote:[url=http://www.propheticwordsrevelation.blogspot.com/]Miriam Franklin blog[/url] Is this the person Destiny is referring to?
At first glance this site doesn't sing with my spirit, even though many of the facts in the prophecies could be correct (the slave girl at Ephesus was correct too!). I also note that people such as Bob Jones are mentioned, isn't he one of the "Kansas City Prophets" who was discredited for immoral behaviour or something...?
Jeannette
After looking at the website a bit more, I realise that, as you said, it is [i]exposing
Excuse the misunderstanding!
And can I make the same request to you as to Destiny, that maybe you can try to be more brief and summarise your points? I just can't cope with pages and pages these days, because of time and finding it a strain reading off the computer screen rather than printed words.
I'm also having problems with my size settings for text and not sure how to correct it. It's still showing quotes in much bigger print than folks' replies, which are extremely small (about 8 point kind of size) on my screen.
Thanks
Jeannette
Amen Krispy, well said!
KrispyKrittr wrote:[b]Miriam...[/b] Thank you for the clarification that you offered here. I would second the motion that we should investigate and make sure we know what we're talking about, especially in a public forum like this.My prayer for this discussion is that it does not become a platform for two people to go at each other over something that appears to be personal. From what I'm able to tell, both you and "Destiny" have blogs and other means on the internet in which to offer your views about each other. Hopefully it will not spill over into this forum because that is not what this forum is here for.
Since you were personally attacked on this thread it is understandable that you would want to clarify whats going on. I think you had a right to do that. I would do the same thing. But I'm not sure this discussion should continue beyond this point. We should let the moderators of this forum make that decision.
Personally I've never heard of either of you, nor have I had time to look into this whole issue (mainly because I dont care). I just pray that the grace and mercy of our Lord will open the eyes of whoever is in the wrong, and bring the two of you together in fellowship... a fellowship that is based on the truth of the Bible, and nothing else.
Krispy
Jeremiah 28:
[color=990000]1 And it came to pass the same year, in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, in the fourth year, and in the fifth month, that Hananiah the son of Azur the prophet, which was of Gibeon, spake unto me in the house of the LORD, in the presence of the priests and of all the people, saying,
2 Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying, I have broken the yoke of the king of Babylon.
3 Within two full years will I bring again into this place all the vessels of the LORD’S house, that Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon took away from this place, and carried them to Babylon:
4 And I will bring again to this place Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, with all the captives of Judah, that went into Babylon, saith the LORD: for I will break the yoke of the king of Babylon.
5 Then the prophet Jeremiah said unto the prophet Hananiah in the presence of the priests, and in the presence of all the people that stood in the house of the LORD,
6 Even the prophet Jeremiah said, Amen: the LORD do so: the LORD perform thy words which thou hast prophesied, to bring again the vessels of the LORD’S house, and all that is carried away captive, from Babylon into this place.
7 Nevertheless hear thou now this word that I speak in thine ears, and in the ears of all the people; 7 Nevertheless hear thou now this word that I speak in thine ears, and in the ears of all the people;
8 The prophets that have been before me and before thee of old prophesied both against many countries, and against great kingdoms, of war, and of evil, and of pestilence.
9 The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him.
10 Then Hananiah the prophet took the yoke from off the prophet Jeremiah’s neck, and brake it.
11 And Hananiah spake in the presence of all the people, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Even so will I break the yoke of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon from the neck of all nations within the space of two full years. And the prophet Jeremiah went his way...[/color]
Sisters, maybe the best thing would be to each ask the Lord to search your own hearts, to show you if your attitude to each other and to your calling in Him is as He would desire?
1Co 13:2
[color=990000]And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.[/color]
This is a deeply challenging word for all of us
in Him
Jeannette
I've held off here and just prayed since my own thread entitled [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20920&forum=36&18]A Serious Warning from Paul.
I had just came back to post some Apologetic sites and barely read the prophecy, only seeing "war-Iraq" and "when I saw Jesus" and felt upset about the post.
Des was not happy with the Websites that expose false moves, etc. of God - which also made me nervous.
Seeing this thread - I felt Des should have posted her blog url for us to discern also.
When anyone is publically demeaned like this, the party accused has the right to a public defense of themselves.
Miriam did the right thing.
I felt that this thread was posted for "us" to go do the search and destroy mission for Des.
It made no other sense to me.
I spent most of yesterday at Miriam's site.
My first impression was that she sounded on those same individuals that the links I put up sound out on also.
I don't have to fully agree with either Des or Miriam, but that doesn't give me the right to publically do what was done with this thread.
I hope this ends it here for 'this' subject.
I've posted my thoughts on "prophets and prophecies" on other threads in the past.
Also ~ I completely agree with Ccchhhrrriiisss and PaulWest's posts on our own.
LORD Bless.
I am asking forgiveness for the offence of actually giving the name of this person,Miriam...It occurs to me that it would be a good thing to bring understanding to those who have been led to believe that my motives have been evil...I am disabled...as in braindamage-misfunction-misfiring etc.I forget that what is simple for others to 'get'..I may not understand and I must ask for clarification.sometimes things can slip out of my mind even though I have spent lots of effort to learn them,as in mathematics ,reading music,memorizing lines...names leave quickly but eyes/souls I rarely forget and I can remember every lesson,experience and concept that pertains to God's kingdom that I have been exposed to..almost like a kind of idiot savant and at times I am like an autistic child...strange but true..sometimes I am a real embarrassment for my mostly grown children..as I can go in and out of being socially adept and then not..it is something I do not think about unless it is in my face...I forget to see myself as disabled because I am so grateful of all I can do. I asked in this post for prayers that I might know whether to proceed in what I believe God has been revealing to me about a need to open up a teaching that helps others to see visions and dreams with a more discerning eye..forcing me to remove all motes and clarify for myself what i have seen and experienced since I can remember.Normally I clearly see and know of many of the things people prophecy years before someone says anything publically,most of us do right?...I have been called to pray and intercede,as Christ ever lives giving this gift of intercession and since most of my time is spent with Him,naturally this is what I am doing.I see the necessity for and am grateful for the websites that are opposing extremes,out and out falsehood and the more subtle distinctions in wrongful belief that can destroy a believer's spiritual life...I also look for balance in their presentation and purity of heart,humilty and mercy and yes!I ask questions..these questions do not mean I am in disagreement as I am always searching for the truth...as He is life to me and He is truth.Living with a disablity is very challenging and requires a great dependance upon God's mercy,patience and most appreciated,His loving kindness...asking for help from others was difficult here,I have found many have no patience to teach or help someone else fully understand...many take offense and become incredibly defensive..I have learned to trust in God for His Grace and He has given me Ability to compensate for whatever disadvantages I face in life through a damaged brain,which He is healing!little by little,day by day.
Much of what I am accused of is very hard to relate to..though I seek God for any and all possibility of these things in my heart..I am more like a little child and I have been asking Him how do I bring correction as you are asking without falling into judgement. I have not claimed to be a prophet as Mrs.Franklin states and there is only one post that I wrote her besides the ones she showed you,I saved it on impulse..she said more than once that I was afraid of confrontation and so I decided I would begin to give her a very small portion of what I'd been given for her...She can surely dish it out..but most certainly does not like it measured back...I do truly forgive her,I am very much aware that I have not tried to communicate with anyone like her for a long time...I saw she was in danger,I was uncertain how to reach her...I learn as I go ...blunders,foolishness and all..perhaps I could have mentioned I was disabled,but I fail to see how this would have done nothing more than increase her dismissive and contemptual attitude..I have been thankful for her in that coming to know her through her blog I have been taken into places for review in my own heart..ohh so necessary and so much appreciated..and by desiring to/being led to assist another we are always given a great benefit of applying it all back onto ourselves..a common practice for me.
A great comfort for me in this type of disability is that it does not affect my spiritual mind,eyes or ears...even if it can make me appear to be rather odd to others..this I've come to accept..though since it is not I who live but Christ who lives in me..He says that He uses people like me to test the hearts and minds of all who come in contact with me,especially those who call themselves by His Name..I have not always enjoyed this aspect of it all, as I have seen Him move against the cruel and the proud and those who wield their authority wrongly,even though I begged Him to forgive them.If only they had known..they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory...God's strategies haven't changed in all this time.
I remember when I wrote this post ,we were moving to a new place and I was shown to ask for help,the confirmation I was looking for,I needed prayer from those who might see my request...but even in this I did not know that naming her was not helpful in this..it led others to lean on their own understanding by giving them too much information yet not enough..gosh I do feel stupid..I get to feel stupid alot...I am not stupid,I am learning,I knew i was going to have to say her name and i had intended to do this when I wrote what God had given me...I'd hoped there was another way to do this but He had chosen her as an example in which to teach me and I was for the most part certain,I could not tell if I was fearful due to the intensity of the leviathan type nature of the spiritual stronghold I found myself facing..Miriam is only one of many I've seen to veer off,but because she was in the middle between the two opposing sides...I could clearly see why he'd chosen her for this audit/Correction...He asked me to treat her works as a term paper or mid term testpaper that I was helping the Teacher to correct and evaluate for accuracy in interpretation of visions and dreams..we do not see our own selves/flesh as clearly as others can of this I am sure..this is why we need one another to care so deeply for us and why we need to humbly recieve correction ..if someone says they are grieved look closely at why this might be so...do not excuse it lightly..go low and be willing to be wrong even when you believe yourself to be right. I do not recognize the sweet nature of my patient Teacher in Miriam's responses to me...but then again she has not perceived my disability and so holds me up to ridicule...I have never seen her yield to anyone's correction yet.Falseness comes in many facets/disguises...The false prophet will not be false so much in what he prophesies are but in the manner or subtle misrepresentation of the true heart and mind of Christ Jesus who is my dearest love and Redeemer.
I often forget that my brain works differently than others...my ability thus far to express what I am trying to say so that others do not misconstrue in regards to typing is a brand new thing to me. Am I to stop trying to reach out to others because it is more difficult and I might not know the guidelines that others take for granted...may you all be patient with me.I am learning that I must reread everything so I cannot be rushed or in a hurry ... I've noticed I skip entire phrases at times and if not proofread I laugh to see how silly and disjointed what I've written can become..truly laughable,and a bit trying for others I am sure.. I do not need pity or even sympathy really,I know that God knows exactly what I am saying and why.. He knows that I love repentance.. Honestly!I love to be shown where I am wrong ...when I am wrong...God knows this very well...He has often told me recently that I am too polite and yes I have been known to argue with God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit for the,diversion of disasters as well as the souls of the lost and won many!All of heaven has rejoiced with me in this.And though I have seen much of what is to come..this happens in little ways every day and as well as in larger ways...i am alarmed at the syncronicity of my prayer and thought life with what is happening all over the nation...but this is not what I am to discuss here except to say again that we plead daily for the Lord to show mercy,and note how few lives are lost in relation to what we were shown...ohh thanksgiving abounds for His incredible compassionate mercy.I have no axe to grind...I am not angry at Miriam...I am sorrowful and lovesick for Jesus to be formed within her soul.
to the sister who believed the worst of me,He Reigns..I asked you to pray..I do not expect you to do anything unless you are so led and can have a cheerful heart in your giving of your time and effort on my behalf,I was suprised to learn that you skimmed what I've written to you..I mean you can do things anyway you choose to,but I guess that is between you and Jesus...I have been doing my own homework here as the Lord has led,He placed my hand upon this plow and breaking up the fallow ground of this new field(for me) has been no cake walk...I would never have mentioned names if I'd known how it would dirty up the place...forgive me...I do not search and destroy people..this is foriegn to me ...I may wrestle against principalities and powers to destroy the works of the enemy of all Christ is and stands for..and I may be asked to pull down vain imaginations by exposing how things people say and see do not add up according to heavenly law/principle,let alone basic human logic...but I am not allowed to condemn or curse them..my heart won't go there anyway...I am accustomed to loves discretion covering the sins of others and breaking them free through other methods..most of the lost sheep i have been blessed to find,serve and restore have been so downtrodden they do not need anyone to tell them where they are wrong they are well aware and confess there sins to me automatically...hardened criminals to the desperately wounded in mind and heart,but ripened fruit,ready for the harvest.you were bothered that I have seen Jesus in a vision? also an actual visitation at 22...I have often asked why me ? I don't know perhaps it was because of all I had suffered before I was even 19...parental abandonement,countless brutal beatings,kidnappings,rapes,stalkings,overdoses, shock treatments/attempted brainwashing and varied multiple murderous attempts on my life from coast to coastas well as the Hawaiian Islands,homelessness and hunger,humiliation and then perhaps because of what would follow in later years... to give me a place of safety within my memory where I could always be safe and remember who I am in Jesus and who He is to me. I am an overcomer as God has promised I would be and He has given me so much through the glorious gift of forgiveness(oh the wonderful marvelous cross!) for myself as well and especially towards all of those who have perpetrated evil against me!I love forgiveness! I live there..nestled deep in His heart...because of the challenges I face in regards to my brain and the way it sometimes doesn't work as I'd like it to I have experianced an added grace...a way that God speaks to me along with His written word..He is the Author and Finisher of my faith and my life's story has been His to write,to make beautiful as He's promised,hidden in Christ Jesus,well known but as unknown.My greatest desire and ambition since I was old enough to have one has been to be just like Jesus...I believe I chose the very best thing.He has made me His ambassador.I will continue to love and plead the powerful blood of Christ for the beloved brethren(whether deceived and deluded,blinded by pride or broken,humble and crushed to be poured out as fine wine) regardless of whatever love and acceptance is returned...all love is never wasted..if not received by the lovee..it is stored up for the lover..and returned to strengthen and restore the faithful in times of great need.In my weakness,He is Strong!I give thanks for my frailities as I am never very far away from them..in this I believe I am less apt to be so demanding of others...And yes i have ears to hear when God says He has had enough and my eyes have seen his judgements played out..so I am not naive to the realities as some would think..I give thanks for the lessons learned here and having wept last night to see my mistake and it's impact,am free to move forward in peace and joy willing to undertake whatever task He places before me...unfettered by fear or doubt.
Again please forgive me for actual wrongs and misperceived wrongs as well. In Him who loves and forgives us...unfailingly..unconditionally!
God's mercy endures forever!
I will enjoy reading more of your posts in the days to come and will make an effort to get whatever clues on protocal that I can from the long timers here.
Quote by destinysweet on 2007/12/4 0:53:17
Please...I am seeking confirmation..though it seems that I get it every morning noon and night, as to whether I am to expose publically on my blog the false teachings,falsely interpreted dreams and visions of Mrs. Rosilund Franklin (who also calls herself Miriam) for the twisted and deceptive works of the darkness that has taken hold of her own soul...I have been interceding for her for just over 3 mos.and wrote her a few small corrections and one rather lengthy one that she did not dare to keep on her site lest her fan club/followers see the truth...I have never done this sort of thing before and I have given God every excuse I could find to opt out..more accurately I do not feel this is a fleshly zeal type of move on my part...I have suffered from deception of many shapes and sizes and rejoice in the clarity that Jesus has given me...it is a horrible thing to be twisted and used of the enemy when your real desire is to do God's will...I felt as though I was the least likely person to do this but it seems that because i know the territory so well it is easy for me to see what is motivating and and guiding the interpretations she gives as of these visions and dreams which are routinely misunderstood and thus misdirected and misinterpreted..I am seeing a very clear connection between the beast(accuser of the brethren )and the false prophet(presenting a false image of Christ Jesus and what He..the True is actually saying to His people about our covenant with all believers and our responsibility to pray for them to be restored..with real faith..not the attitude that is evidenced on this woman's site...God's mercy working through the powerful act of our blessed Lord is the only thing that will keep us from falling from grace in the days to come..those who endure until the end will have to be very very grounded in this truth..God's mercy endures forever...mercy endures...how will we endure? who will endure? Those who do not stray far from mercy..safely tucked under this mighty wing...so I need you to pray and ask God for a word or a witness or a warning for me...that this severe mercy of calling her to cease and desist from cursing the people of God,breaking covenant with God and those of His who may be stumbling as they try to find His way..worse than Balaam..He at least listened to the donkey...anyway...since she has blocked me from pleading with her in private..should I release the audit I have been led to do on her...unraveling the lies of the enemy that are woven throughout the articles and posts and responses to God's people who are either warning or pandering to her. I keep dying to it and handing it back to him and He keeps opening it up further and further...I have from the beginning of being led to her site taken all I have seen to heart(confessing my own sin as there is so much spiritual pride I can identify in my own heart..any is too much for me..it is so good at hiding from me that I need others at times to notice it for me) after I've checked myself as thorughly as I know in the presence of my living Savior/If not more rigorously than I've scrutinized her..I ams till left with what seems to be him asking me to please take it on as though i were correcting a term paper froman underclassman as the student teacher who helps the Teacher do this ness. work.It is facinating and has been no waste as far as the time spent..God is good to reward us when we obey Him..I am still undecided...is it a stategy of God to expose this type of thing in a comprehensive manner that would help the uninitiated( those who do not regularly recieve dreams and visions)learn how to discern by sharing what He has been teaching me...we are moving to anew place..funny it used to house priests years ago..I am of his royal priesthood and I will continue to pray and believe for all who call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to be delivered from deception and delusions of granduer etc...I have known spiritual insanity and believe He is the cure for all these things i am living proof...He will save these to the uttermost of this madness if we will love them love them...yes love them enough to intercede and obey Him in what He shows us to do ...is this what you want me to do My precious Lord Jesus?...please give my brethren witness by your Spirit if it is so. I will not be back on line till the 11th or 12th so if you feel led leave me a word...thanks..even writing this with her name was a leap of faith for me...her website is endtimespropheticword..sorry have to go we are unplugging the computer for a week..pray for me ..my beloved!..Destiny
Ok...reread...is there something you'd like to share...something that has been impressed upon you that you can see that I cannot? Please feel free.
When I 1st saw(after reading everyones thoughts) that I'd been too worried, evidently not trusting,impatient and stressing and had jumped at the opportunity to get a quick fix...can we get this over with God so I can go onto something more pleasant..less mucky?Cut and dried..perhaps less challenging maybe...am I only trying to spare myself? how this felt to be carrying what felt like a monstrous burden..I was looking out over all these folks warring with one another and my heart just felt moved to be of some service to God in turning this tide so that everyone would be more prepared for what was coming.I'd forgotten the simple truth that God is in control, And He will save,is saving to the uttermost,completely and so very able is He..He may show it to me as a plague of sorts,like a very virulent virus,infectious and deadly..and also assure me in my horror that He intends to use me as part of the solution,the cure..is He not the Great Healer?So how come i am so frightened of being defiled by it myself,since when has that ever been a concern before,hasn't the gift of faith given,which I see as Jesus'Holy Ghost..the Father's faith vs our measure,hasn't this given me boldness(and I remember some of the trouble I've gotten myself into and think..well yes..I'm over that..this has got to be You God or I'm not up for it..no way...and then I began to see the 'penny'(problem)held up in front of my eye blocking my vision,it was all I could see...and so I laughed and pulled it back further(remembering something wise I'd read long ago) and abit more and saw that it was really a small thing when I considered all that was there to see.(as Abe looked benignly,yet not without sorrow,with the barest hint of a knowing smile,as if to say...I too know of a house divided...of a warring people and slaughter over freedom for all alike)
The first night,11th, I sat weeping over my impatience...I 'd really thought I was being patient..but I'd been praying for some folks in positions of influence over many little babes in Christ,as well as national leaders for over a decade quelling the occaisional shove to get expose their stuff...even to write a letter of warning..what had made this so different? I'm not absolutely certain,but I can guess that I now felt it was time to rise up and say what had been said over years in my closet..regardless of whether I was out of alignment in a degree here..a misunderstanding there...a doctrine swallowed and not yet understood as a doctrine of man or demons.Was I allowing this virus to go unchecked by not doing everything I could to inform others...the dilligent and the truth seekers would already know..but was I being miserly..somehow in an effort not to lose myself in unbridled generosity..This can be the case with me.Those times I was feeling a shove..and that frantic uneasiness..this responsibility to help them see to rescue those who were getting sucked into whatever it is that I'd seen...breathing as it were this poisonous gas...not an earthly gas,mind you...but deadly just the same....it seemed as though God had said..they can't hear you right now..and if you confront them ..or awaken love before it pleases..they will harden their hearts and we will lose them...just pray for now,bind it here,in the heavens and when the time comes it will be bound and made manifest upon the earth ..and it shall cover the earth as the water covers the sea..it always begins in the Spirit,fear not...and love grew inside my own heart. Does that make sense to you?
I'm trying to break up my paragraphs so it is not so hard to read...even though this is still the same subject..oh,dear. thank you for your full attention... over the last night and day..I felt Jesus say ...has this become to heavy for your shoulders,little one?..Did you forget that the government of my everlasting kingdom is settled firmly here...resting upon My capable shoulders? and I felt something lift and lighten,'You may be yoked to me but remember who it is that guides and directs,determining when to turn and go back the other way..who keeps the lines straight..(I've seen this before as me walking as an ox yoked besides Him who is actually way bigger,for one thing because He is a man,and though it does not appear to be equal ly yoked ..me beside Him ...get real...but therein lies that which defies logic. It appears that surely He is really pulling the entire load of this heavy plow and apparatus..usually,I am barely able to feel the strain...though I am not slacking..His strength and stature are what's really making it all happen.)
So..again...it is not as though I can blighthly(sp) say with a toss of my hair..not my problem...God's problem...no.. that does not resonate as ringing true... if one is suffering,one of these little ones is decieved,or torn...however it shows up..all suffer..we are all one(potentially) in the highest sense of the kingdom and until He actually seperates the sheep from the goats..we've got to believe for the full sanctification..the full saving grace of His mighty Blood and amazing undeniably mandatory sacrifice to be brought to bear upon those who are brought to our attention...all inclusive..If one loses all lose...there may be a time of only sorrow and shame for those whose faith was so meager/miserly.So I ask for it to be revealed where mine also is lacking..because if I can concieve of it/percieve it in others...don't let me overreact and think wrongly...it is probably lurking nearby,waiting for me...and if I'm able to be honest I've probably got a portion of it somewhere in this deceitful heart of mine...and yet He says ...I gave you a new heart,mine when you gave me yours and you gave me your broken mind in exchange for Mine...believe it.Some trade-off huh?I definitely got the better part of the deal.
As you can see I desire balance..and I do trust Him to make this manifest,as this is the divine will for me and for all.
Perhaps this is not ok to say..I did not feel I needed to defend myself..Christ is my defence attorney..it's more that I found something written about me in the 'prophecy' left on this thread for me...strong rebuke. And though I have determined in my heart that i will definately explain anything to anyone aabout the mistakes i've made if it will bring hope ,faith and help others to avoid the pitfalls...a righteous man falls many times and then GETS BACK UP! hallelujah...oh for the grace of God and the fullness of His mercy..oh blessed be the Name of the Lord..my Counselor! but as far as me thinking I'm 'all that' or have been promoting myself as this or that title/office...and as for protecting my reputation..I remembered this remark and laughed and laughed and laughed at how utterly silly this notion is..I have absolutely no reputation to speak of...unless you wanted to dig up my inglorious past...I am actually quite infamous in some circles...the only reputation I could have hoped for has been so thoroughly,maligned,sladerized and at times purposely trashed,destroyed...oblitherated..lest I stand on my own merit and become that of which I dreaded more...and you know what...I don't rightly knowwhat part was actually part of God's plan and what part was just basic injustice and what part was just a crazy notion I had once about how to not give myself a reason to judge another..I'd been finding myself being made to play out judgements I'd made decades before,briefly perhaps ....but most definately disqualifying me from being able to smugly say "I would NEVER do that!" you can see I have been very lovesick!I so rejoice in this fact that in the kingdom of God...my reputation is intact...every single way that I have missed the truest,purist mark of my Heavenly Father's standard, whether my motives and intention were righteous in my own eyes or not,in my attempts to further the kingdom come,or just plain rebellious tempertantrum,in your face anger..it was all the same bullseye is bullseye,as any archer knows everything else is sin..whether you hit the tree 10 yrds away,or come as close as can be,so as from a distance it appears youv'e hit it...until you walk up closer...ah...close but no cigar..and groans are heard all aroud..everyone was hoping it had been the eagerly sought after,ardently desired bullseye...after all this is where we get the term for sin..thank you Chuck Smith.
As someone who tends to push the envelope..not for the sake of doing so ..but out of a lack of awareness of how my brain was wired..not yet seeing the way my perceptions were being influenced by the lack of balance and the tendancy I had to forget to eat actual..food..as in feed the human,Destiny! I didn't purpose to fast it just sort of happened..Now I am much more focused on a more nurturing body ,soul and spirit...so that the latter doesn't get jeapodized by not being grounded enough..for a time I justified the very questionable and oftimes delusional acts of self sacrifice as being undefiled because it was love that made me take the risks to save them,because of the fruit born in the undertaking...I have had to be very determined to be wrong so that i might be made right to overcome the tendrils of that twisted thing.
At times I am brought up short as I am searching my own heart..stop it you are now being like those who are compulsive obsessive and must clean and clean and scrub because they cannot feel clean...you will rub yourself raw..now stop it ...Your sins have all been confessed and repentance sought dilligently,forgiveness rendered..all things are made new! So I must rest in this.. my life has been redeemed from whatever I'd done...all these have been forgotten...as this is what He says. Adamant about it He is.
Once I thought "I don't understand how you can expect anyone to believe me,certainly with the present trend of the day secular and religious of hanging everyone's dirty laundry out for all to see and slaver over...hyenas,jackals and vultures everywhere." My oddball story only Glorified God in proving beyond a shadow of a doubt His amazing power to save to the uttermost,His incredible loving Mercy for one such as me,the least likely to suceed..that nothing was impossible with Him and that He did not desire to lose a single soul who had called upon His name...Would they understand how He had given me the treasures of darkness..it mattered not...I had Him and I needed no other reputation than that of His to cover my foolish recklessness. To this He began by saying Acts..chapter 5 Annanias and Sapphira and I pondered this story..heavy duty story,this. He spoke about what He meant in regards to this type of radical judgement,reminding me of the smaller instances where I'd witnessed this,but He was saying it would not be small hidden obscure events but broader in scope."I'm bringing judgement upon my house like this...it has begun..." wow..and so we..the Holy Ghost and I...the majestically noble and faithfully righteous angels who all hang out so close to guard me..we interceded through most of the night.After a few hours sleep..I was awakened abrubtly and told turn on the news...this was the first time in a very long time that I had a television...a few newstories stood out to me:
1. A man was climbing the steps (Santa Fe,New mexico)of a courthouse and dropped dead on his way to court. there was not given a reason as to the type of case he was involved in.
and He said "This is how it will be for anyone who dares to try and bring your past up as though to judge you and to try to do you harm."
2. Another storm had ripped through New Orleans through the night and torn apart the portions they were trying to rebuild.(Jan.or Feb 2006)
this was disturbing because that same night I had asked God if He meant what He'd said about not rebuilding there...if He'd relented.( there is much to this,but I'm not going into it at this time.)
there was more but you get my point..there is always more...I have been silent for what seems like a long time..and He has never left my side..never forsaken me as He promised me when He came to me in person...I am so glad..words cannot express the dimensions of my gratitude.His love never fails
you know my friend,my sister...I was thinking last night as I sought for the perfect will in this puzzling situation..perfect will,mind you..nothing more and nothing less..there might be a way to do this without having to name names...but you know how folks want to know what is your source...anyway..there is alot that can be used to show the differences between soulish and the spiritually discerned as in dreams and vision interpretation..but I am still giving this hot potato back..up to Him as I have been every few days since it started becoming what....an obsession...I've really been asking..it's possible...so enough on this..besides I might of spoiled the opportunity to pull it off in a gentler fashion since writing her name already...maybe only a bare few have even seen it? Again and most importantly...may the Most High God's perfect will be done in this and all things pertaining to everything that concerns us.
Jesus...More of you and less,less,less! of us!
Thank you for your focus and your time...may more of His Amazing Majesty be seen(known) and the utter brilliance of His divine mind be recieved as given to us all who believe. and to those who don't know Him...draw them to yourself Father...reveal your Son.
Re Destiny's last post:
It's very difficult, when the Lord shows you something, to know how to handle it rightly.
One's information/discernment etc may be 100% correct, but what to [i]do
I have to keep learning this lesson and still haven't quite got it. More than once it's got me into trouble by spilling the beans without the Lord's permission, (nearly happened again recently :oops:).
But when He says to speak we must speak, and when He says to be silent we must shut up!
Knowing which is which, and being willing to obey without question is the tricky part!
I expect you would all agree!
in Him
Jeannette
wow! thanks so much for responding..for taking the time to read carefully what I've been writing.Boy! I could really feel the witness of the Holy Ghost as I read your loving words...No I do not live by feelings..but Jesus felt great compassion before He released healing virtue...but I certainly know the caress of God when I'm blessed to recieve it.
You inspired me to break up my paragraphs,Jeanette.I realized it was too hard to read the long letters,easy to lose your place.We live in a time of the sound bite...folks want everything served to them in a nut shell..like fast foods...instant gratification. I am not concerned with what folks may want...neither is God..my concern is that they get what they need.The Spirit often does give us brief instruction,however most of the time He speaks to me in great detail,in order for me to fully understand His counsel,often taking me through what I already know to clarify/solidify the principles/precepts so that I can see how what He is about to reveal to me is the next step in learning of the kingdom of heaven.Like a student of algebra has to learn step by step...miss a step or two and you are lost once the equations become more complicated...then there is calculus,trigonometry...it boggles the mind...but some are gifted in this area and my big brother got all the math smarts,but I was created to understand the kingdom of God,that I might be able to reveal Jesus to those who have lost their way.I am always looking to learn whatever my Father would have me know,and I trust him to be in charge of how that happens. I had to ask my daughter ,computer saavy from gradeschool,and she showed me how to make paragraphs on the keyboard here,don't laugh...no go ahead,I'm laughing too.
We come into new seasons of how we are utilized by God for His purposes as we grow in His grace and knowledge.And I believe that we learn as we go along..no one goes into any task in the very beginning knowing how to do it..on the job training is how He shows it to me.I am very hands on in my learning..you can tell me how to do something,but if you show me I'm not as likely to get confused...perhaps that is why God uses pictures...visions to show me what He wants to bring to my attention..and then when I move on what He shows me He opens all of life around me and reveals it to me like this,then He brings me to the place in the written word,that I've read but not always understood in my spirit and connects the dots for me. Jesus said I only do the things I see my Father do and say what I hear my Father say...these words formed my earliest steps in following Jesus,you could say all of life as I knew it changed when I was soveriegnly converted, as the power of God was brought to bear upon my spiritual senses.I was 19 and quite flexible,easy to lead..not fixed in doctrines/traditions of men....which being earthly and not heavenly in regards to wisdom,lack purity, are tainted by the flesh/human intellect/mind and in comparison to heavenly truth spiritually discerned are demonic.
I believe that when we wait upon the Lord for His perfect timing and His way of doing whatever He's asking /showing us to do...and if we while waiting and preparing for the time when He will say...Release this now...the word,the vision,whatever the case may be...we are given the opportunity to look deeply into what has been given to us to present..not always...but the bigger it is the greater the preparation.When giving a soul who is brought/drawn to you by divine appointment,if this is the only chance you will have to be of service,they will need the message then and there...and this is for the most part personal and custom fit for that individual...we are made ready for this type of spontaneity...it is fun and easy...you see it,hear the words,take a moment to clear it with the Master and voila! deliver it...no fuss no muss.The warnings have always been a little more challenging to me because they are more..oh I don't know...oooooweeeeoooo....try telling someone they only have a month to live sometime and see how that changes the atmosphere..yea....after losing even those warned ,you learn how to word these heavy duty statements of fact/truth with grace,knowing what is at stake.weighty...thats what it is...the glory of God weighty..shows up strong making the air heavy with His presence...His mercy.
No matter how much experience you may have gathered,while gathering,when you are brought to a place where God is Saying..Behold I am doing a new thing..a new work..watch as it springs forth. In this new thing I am being guided intoI do not see it as a personal thing unless you consider that God has taken these abuses/misrepresentations of His will and His truth/His Way very personally...because He is so very protective of His children...and the Spirit jealously guards the Truth..Being the Spirit of Truth! If God did not insist upon it in this time of massive deception...the earth and all who have life would cease to exist...except for the redeemed. So are we to be unconcerned when we see a believer running headlong into disaster...see them screaming through a megaphone in the dark...note that they are on a ship that is sinking...do we walk away because it is unpleasant to 'fellowship with darkness'in dealing with pigheaded stubborness? I cannot pass by any one who lies robbed and clearly beaten with out lending a hand,leading them out of the darkness if I am given half a chance,throwing them a lifeline before they drown.
We know that the Spirit of Truth will guide us into All truth...as it pertains to Jesus..who is the Truth,of the Kingdom..and of the ways of man as well..or of things pertaining to the earthly realm/soulish realm. We are given generously of His wisdom when we Love the Truth,seek the Truth with all of our hearts and minds etc.,we ask and we are given,seek and search and we find,knock and keep on knocking as we wait for Him to open the door that no man can shut.While waiting this word held within purifies us first that we would be pure,not guilty of hypocrisy(there is no power in hypocrisy)no real power, no real authority...the Word of God never returns void...and if it is to accomplish what God intends in mass,it must be purified as silver ,pure words coming through the fire/furnace of the earth(what we suffer and go through on the earth) a purified heartis not one that never has sinned,but rather one who has believed upon the power of the Blood of the Lamb that was slain to redeem them of their sins,the contrite and broken heart over their own sins is given a heart broken open...larger now to include all others,expansive,incusive.
The words of the Lord are pure words
As silver tried in the furnace of the earth
Purified seven times
For the word of God to be purified within man it must be purified so it can go through man and not lose the power...is it not powerful when it leaves the mouth of god...does it lose something on it's way before reaching the ear of man...No! of course not...so why with all that power...that spoke creation into being..is man so weak? Because his heart is not pure...not only will he not see God...He will not see how God is moving either. This is why we see so many who seem to be praying the Word and commanding demons to go etc. but there is no virtue flowing forth for the healing and apparently no authority to get the job done. much of the time it is simply because they have come into agreement with their minds but their hearts have not become broken to recieve the heart of God on the matter.
I believe that God has revealed His heart to me concerning His kingdom..which is at hand...which is within..which is to come and that the Spirit of Truth has been guiding me into all truth in regards to what He has shown me are His greatest concerns regarding the beloved. I am well aquainted with kingdom authority as it has been given to me in greater and greater degrees as I have become more and more in alignment with the truth of Kingdom Law..the spirit of the law...not the letter...got an F on the letter of the law. If I needed to give you my spiritual resume to prove my faith by my works or my works by my faith we'd miss the whole show..as this is how long it would take to describe how god has chosen to work through me in response to the needs of the lost..I have meerly been willing and available..eager if you will..and not perfect..no I leave the perfection to Jesus...who by the way says that I am perfect right were I am in my growth and developement...He made me perfect once and for all when He bore all of my imperfections...I know that you know this but He has encouraged me to proclaim it for myself.When I try to be perfect it messes with me so badly ..I get all tangled up,fall headlong into a ditch...that's part of the beauty of redemption ..it's not about me..it's about how magnificent He is!
People(majority) do not understand how kingdom government and authority works..they think they do but there is little or no evidence to support their claims... when we become aligned to falsehood in our authority structures we come under/place ourselves under these faulty structures..if you build a structure whose walls are not plumb ...even if you are off in the slightest degree at the base..when you get a few yrds up in your building it will begin to veer off noticably and the wall will not be able to withstand/or bear up under the stress/load of what rests upon it. Fortunately the government of heaven is intact as it rests upon the Truth of Christ's Love and mercy.It is being shaken and God can transform and recreate any part of it as He chooses...God does whatever He deems necessary and who is to tell Him what He may or may not do...I noticed that when alot of people are naysaying,as they rummage around in their box labeled...What God will Do According to My Personal Point of Reference...God is busy doing as if to say...Is that so?! did you check this out? He also reserves the right to change His mind,relents,thankfully(apparently this is not a perogative given only to women...grin)Of this we know...He is love and love never fails...perfect love casts out all fear. The highest law of the universe(all of creation)which is ever expanding is love and liberty,not attraction,contrary to the insidious teachings of 'The Secret"..Lord Jesus please remove the scales from Oprah's eyes!Love is very expansive,and within the depths and heights widths and breadths of this divine love there is suffering..we'd best learn how to embrace the suffering instead of running away from it ...resenting those who are only actors on our stage to help Christ be formed in us...are not all trials golden opportunities,as chariots to transport us to where we need to be spiritually? Patience is the key you'd choose from your heavenly key ring to unlock the mysteries of authority.Remeber the strategy of God in the humble submissive Lamb(who we imitate,whose example we follow) who stood silent before His executors.They lost by forfiet..I was told..the powers of darkness that were dominating the outcome of man's legacy.
And as we allow patience to have it's perfect work in us,while we are waiting on Him to open the door that we can walk through it..He expands His word within us and as we lay it down before Him desiring His perfect will ,His loving heart and mercy to be made manifest..rather than judgement and wrath... this is so not my territory..only His to decide..thank you Jesus!He purifies our motives and strengthens us,instucting us in His will ...this is the way ...walk ye therefore in it...next step...and this is how you do it..see watch Me now...I have gone way before you in this...you can put your little foot there. In that huge footprint,Lord?
I am wondering why I have not heard back from you,He Reigns over your request to have me reread and compare my writings..I was not being facetious...honestly... was there something you wanted to point out? You have mentioned on other posts that part of how your disability works is that you forget things sometimes on an hourly basis..and this thing you directed me to do, perhaps, is of no great importance to you..and so it has slipped away...out of sight,out of mind....understandable,this is fine with me...but I feel rather left to dangle wondering where you went? could you respond,please? Thank you...Love believes the best and hopes the best.
Don't worry guys, if we stoned you we would have to stone those pesky weathermen too. Boy are they ever wrong! I mean, they called for snow one day, and it ended up being a day of fun in the sun. I wore shorts and worked on my tan. 8-) My little girl played in the sprinkler, and my wife got a sun burn. :-o
Hi Des, I don't forget things pertaining to Him - such as what I've posted here with brethren. Or what I say at Church.
I don't recall saying that I "forget things sometimes on an hourly basis" - but I did say, I have lost a sense of time, which I see as "Heavenly".
I haven't forgotten you - I didn't ask you to read those side by side for my benefit. Just that you see the flow of things.
I noticed you said you had brain damage. Sometimes it helps to read what was written at an earlier time and compare to the present.
That's all Des.
Enjoy your stay.
:-)
Great! thanks! I read where you were describing an infirmity where you were having difficulty with your brain function on another thread..I thought you were saying that sometimes you forgot things and yes, I did also catch your inference to being timeless...I know this one well,myself,it is quite heavenly!
Question ...what is the difference between what I was/possibly still am proposing to do with what you are doing with this Viola...Frank is it ? Frankly, I do not see the difference. I can see the similarity in that we are ...I was...partially ,motivated by fear of the deception evident...though not easy to spot if you are skimming and do not thoroughly follow her words in all the comments to those who disagree..I don't blame you for not spending more time there..it was not given to you, possibly, to look into..it was to me. I'm still waiting on God's timing.
Sounds like the Lord desires to give you a break from your post,if you are going off line for however long...This should be exciting! You will have lots of time to commune with Him...Glory!
It seems the 'prophetess' Miriam Franklin is not in fact who she seems... Unfortunately we are witnessing hypocrisy and duplicity on an unbelievable scale I'm afraid...
For example, the prophetess says on her website..
“The charlatans a-plenty who do not fear man, God or Beast are out to fleece the vulnerable and undiscerning for every last dime… Then there are the more sinister ones who intentionally prey like vultures - …who disguise themselves as angels of light… Satan knows scripture, (and very well), albeit he twists it for his own ungodly purposes. He is a good counterfeiter, looks, walks and talks almost like a real Christian.”
But the important question is.. who is the prophetess Miriam Franklin? Is she for real - or is she in fact the epitomy of all that she so loudly denounces?
I challenge you Miriam to deny that you are in fact Rosalind Miriam Franklin, currently awaiting trial in the UK on multiple charges of deception and fraud in your other persona as the corrupt owner of Diggory Press / Exposure Publishing / Meadow Books / Kingdom Come Publishing and associated businesses - where you also loudly proclaim your ‘ethical Christianity’ whilst at the same time ruthlessly defrauding unsuspecting clients?
See this link: http://checkpoint.ie/roguesgallery.html
I also challenge you 'Miriam' to deny that you are in fact the origin of many of the supportive posts on various blogs as well..? Curious researchers should check out the ISP addresses..
Sorry for the let-down folks, but it seems the brazen hypocrisy and deviousness of this woman knows no bounds.
Interested parties can contact me at stmphd@mail.com
It seems the 'prophetess' Miriam Franklin is not in fact who she seems... Unfortunately we are witnessing hypocrisy and duplicity on an unbelievable scale I'm afraid...
For example, the prophetess says on her website..
“The charlatans a-plenty who do not fear man, God or Beast are out to fleece the vulnerable and undiscerning for every last dime… Then there are the more sinister ones who intentionally prey like vultures - …who disguise themselves as angels of light… Satan knows scripture, (and very well), albeit he twists it for his own ungodly purposes. He is a good counterfeiter, looks, walks and talks almost like a real Christian.”
But the important question is.. who is the prophetess Miriam Franklin? Is she for real - or is she in fact the epitomy of all that she so loudly denounces?
I challenge you Miriam to deny that you are in fact Rosalind Miriam Franklin, currently awaiting trial in the UK on multiple charges of deception and fraud in your other persona as the corrupt owner of Diggory Press / Exposure Publishing / Meadow Books / Kingdom Come Publishing and associated businesses - where you also loudly proclaim your ‘ethical Christianity’ whilst at the same time ruthlessly defrauding unsuspecting clients?
See this link: http://checkpoint.ie/roguesgallery.html
I also challenge you 'Miriam' to deny that you are in fact the origin of many of the supportive posts on various blogs as well..? Curious researchers should check out the ISP addresses..
Sorry for the let-down folks, but it seems the brazen hypocrisy and deviousness of this woman knows no bounds.
Interested parties can contact me at stmphd@mail.com
