Working in a christian bookshop it would be smart to compile a list of safe people to buy in your christian bookshop such as Wesleyowen, Eden, St Andrews Bookshop and others. I do not know the American equivalent. A Safe list of preachers and people that people can buy.
I do not know how long the list would be
A list of Sound Preacher (Non dodgy) and dodgy ones
Dodgy? Does that mean they dont drive a Ford?
Krispy
jajajajajajaja Hilarious.
Sorry I am using London english slang or cockney. What I mean is a list of undesirable preachers and a list of good preachers which people can pick up in the christian bookshop so if anyone walks into the local christian bookshop they would know which books to stay away from such
Good
Andrew Murray
Art Katz
Leonard Ravenhill
Bad
Rob Bell
Rick Warren
Joyce Meyer
Benny Hinn
Hmmm, that seems a good idea. Although some writers probably would need a separate category of those who write mostly good stuff, but you have to use discernment and caution re some things they say.
You would also have to make it clear that you are not necessarily agreeing with everything all on the "good" list say, only that they are sound and spiritually reliable. And the opposite for those on the "bad" list.
Even Balaam prophesied truth, but he wasn't to be trusted!
Making such a list would be a difficult but useful task.
I can't think of any additions to the list so far, but there must be many...
Haven't heard of Rob Bell...
I do hope others will make contributions here. Especially because we all have our own favourite writers, of various styles and emphases, even some novelists. (A classic Christian fiction writer that springs to mind is John Bunyan, but there are other more modern ones in both good and bad categories).
Blessings
Jeannette
I'm certainly not trying to discourage you, I think it's a great idea! I just wonder if, especially in America, a bookstore that only carried the solid teachers would even survive financially. Most Christians today arent interested in the deeper things of God. I call it "Starbucks Christianity".
Krispy
KrispyKrittr wrote:
I just wonder if, especially in America, a bookstore that only carried the solid teachers would even survive financially. Most Christians today arent interested in the deeper things of God. I call it "Starbucks Christianity".Krispy
Survive? they would not even have enough stock to open the doors :-P As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Hey I like Starbucks
Mocha yum! yum!, I am clueless to what "Starbucks Christianity" is though, but hey I am just an old Country boy but I will google it and find out, Partner I have that much sense to know how to do that but I be needing to plow the back 40 first. :-)
I've given up on Christian bookstores... although luckily there is bookfinder.com. At least there I can get my fix of old Moody sermons, Sam Jones, Hudson Taylor and Spurgeon, often early editions in good condition -who'd have thought I'd pay less for the original book than I would for a reprint in a new bookstore.
Krispy wrote:
I just wonder if, especially in America, a bookstore that only carried the solid teachers would even survive financially.
Only under the direct leading of God to open it to begin with. Can you imagine such a bookstore? They would have all of my business!
Unless the Lord builds the house... if He wants someone to own a bookstore like that He will make it happen.
Krispy
Hmmm...how about:
Good:
Those who know the Lord and humbly preach the Word of God (purely and without prior consideration of sectarian or doctrinal goals) completely out of a desire for people to truly know, love and fellowship with Him. They desire no self glory, doctrinal recruitment or ulterior gain. Their message is not a farce or misrepresentation. There is no desire to stand in the way of God. There is no "[i]I know the 'truth' so you better believe what I say or else
Bad:
Anything else.
:-)
By the way, I understand what deltadom really wants to do. I do encourage believers to hear a message from men like Ravenhill, Tozer or Reidhead. In my experience, they will immediately experience a difference from the messages of men like this compared with much of what else is presented in today's world. I rememeber the first time that I heard such a message (it was [i]Holy Ground
I listened to that message twice in a row in my youth pastor's office. I ordered several more messages ([i]A Christless Pentecost[i]Purity and Fire
I've attended many Sunday "services" that never pricked my heart the way that those messages prick me each and every time I listen. That is why this website is such a blessing! I've been a member for several years; and, before that, I simply enjoyed downloading and listening to the messages! I have alwasy viewed this place as such a TREASURE! In a world where a certain famine exists for hearing such heart provoking messages and where distractions exist at every turn, it is a blessing to find messages from men who cared more about the honor of God than they did about their name, their doctrine, their denomination or their reputation.
:-)
Hi there,
Certainly a good idea, personally I hardly bother with christian bookshops now, I simply buy online so that I don't have to filter through all the trash to get to what I want.
A little while ago a preacher said "If Christians today are relying on Jesus to meet their needs and give their lives meaning then why are the Christian bookshops across the country filled with self help books for people living empty and meaningless lives!"
I can't quite remember who said that now but I think it was Leonard Ravenhill. It is certainly true! There is ALOT of carnal teaching filling up the christian bookshops.
Personally I use Sermon Index as a guide to good authors and teachers, I have to say that Greg Gordon has done great job in putting together good wholesome teaching for us and if I were trying to put together a list for a christian bookshop I would probably just use this website.
As far as bad teachers go, seek the Lord regarding this. There are certainly alot of bad teachers, however, sometimes we can be better to simply encourage good teaching and trust the Lord that once folk find somebody who is preaching truth and life that this will overshadow the corrupt teachers.
God bless you
Kindest Regards
Darren :-)
Limey153 wrote:A little while ago a preacher said "If Christians today are relying on Jesus to meet their needs and give their lives meaning then why are the Christian bookshops across the country filled with self help books for people living empty and meaningless lives!"
Darren :-)
Thats pretty good.
Sorry I am using London english slang or cockney.
You mean to tell me English folks have a sense of humor??!! WOW! I thought they (except for a few persons) were stogy, stuffy like their queen.... whew! I learned something new today! :-P
ginnyrose
They do say that the Queen has a very lively sense of humour, especially in private. But of course she can't show it much at solemn public occasions.
Maybe the British sense of humour is too subtle for you Americans ;-)
Jeannette
Here are a few favourites, and otherwise, to add to the book list. I don't necessarily agree with all the "good" ones write, but believe they are basically "sound":
[b]GOOD
[u]Bible/devotional
Alan Redpath
Watchman Nee
[u]Missionary/devotional
Amy Carmichael
[u]Missionary
Isobel Kuhn
Phyllis Thompson
[u]Prayer/spiritual warfare
R.A. Matthews
Ray Borlaise (Intercessors for Britain)
Dave Hunt ("sound", though you may not agree with some of his theology) but a bit repetative)
[u]Children's novels
Patricia St John
[u]Novels
Francine Rivers (care, they recently published, without her consent or knowledge, one of her books written "BC, before she became a Christian). Her Biblical novels, such as Lineage of Grace are especially good.
Bodie and Brock Thoene
Joel C Rosenberg
Janette Oake (mostly light romances, but strongly Christian theme)
[b]BAD
Rick Warren et al
Cindy Jacobs
Others, can't remembr their names!
[b]PATCHY
Phillip Yancy
Jeff Lucas (???)
Blessings
Jeannette
More good books:
Books by Corrie ten Boom
A Song for Your Honor by Kay Evans
Children's Books:
Lois Waiford Johnson
Others:
J.I. Packer's: Knowing God
Alvin J. Schmidt: Under the Influence
Bilquis Sheikh: I Dared to Call Him Father
Joseph Wheeler has a a series of compilations of short stories: "Great Stories Remembered", "Christmas in My Heart" ( every fall a new one is added to this collection) and other "..in My Heart" series. These are wonderful stories when you want to relax and be entertained, encouraged. I have most of these books in my collection.
Philip Yancey co-authored a few books with Dr. Paul Brand: "Fearfully and Wonderfully Made", "In His Image"...am not sure if there are others. These are among the best Yancy wrote...not all he wrote is worthwhile reading.
And there are many others....a body cannot name them all.
Blessings,
ginnyrose
How could I have forgotten Corrie Ten Boom especially, and Paul Brand?!!! And there was another, more recent, missionary doctor (in Nepal I think), whose books I found both readable and challenging. One was called "Don't Let the Goats eat the Loquat Trees!
Under "missionary", Helen Rosevere, who was captuerd and suffered at the hands of the rebels in the Congo Uprising is another. Books such as "Give me this Mountain, and "He gave us a valley".
But maybe we'd best keep mainly to [i]authors
Blessings
Jeannette
There is a post from Greg about the question you raised
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6701&forum=34
Check it out Mate!
Philip
Extraordinary:
T. Austin-Sparks
Andrew Murray
A.W. Tozer
E.M. Bounds
Jessie Penn-Lewis
Art Katz
