final goodbye to SI

Shalom to All,

I will no longer be participating on this board.

The moderators of this Message Board have stood by while allowing the attack poodles to continually undermine my character and question my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

I am clearly not welcomed here.

Thank you to all those who have contacted me in private. Your kind words of encouragement are warmly received and I feel sorry that you are not able to publish them, for fear of being tainted with the same brush as me. (blasphemer, heretic, cultist, witch, unsaved...etc)

[color=000000][b]I know in Whom I have believed,[/color][/b]
Sharon

Mr. Bill also felt the same as you at one time, but Mr. Bill has taken long vacation away and it's been so reviving, might try that, trust me it works. God Bless you sister in whatever "GOD" leads you to do, now I need to get back to my vacation. :-)

Dear Sharon,

The moderators of this Message Board have stood by while allowing the attack poodles to continually undermine my character and question my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

I have no idea what incidents or threads you are referring to as I have not read them. I have however read many threads here full of strife and flesh needing to prove themselves right at all cost. The tares grow along with the wheat. Yet the forum and audio resources here are such a treasure. If you stick with the abundant resources for your listening and become selective about the threads yo read. ie devotional/articles I think you will find peace and nutrient for the spirit. I thought of the following verses when I read your post.

Matthew 5:38-48
38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Matthew Henry comments on these verses much better than I could.
The law of retaliation.

The plain instruction is, Suffer any injury that can be borne, for the sake of peace, committing your concerns to the Lord's keeping. And the sum of all is, that Christians must avoid disputing and striving. If any say, Flesh and blood cannot pass by such an affront, let them remember, that flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God; and those who act upon right principles will have most peace and comfort. (Mt 5:43-48)

For your consideration.
much love
Hope

SermonIndex quote: [i]"Please keep using the resources as God leads."[/i]

Thank you. I shall do that. God bless you for making the resources available.:-)

May I particularly recommend the writings and talks of Art Katz. His words played a vital role in my journey a few years ago, and we have had the pleasure and honour of hosting him in our home, and spent time at the summer school held at Ben Israel, when he was still with us.

Sharon

Now I am wondering what Art Katz view is on the diety of Jesus,my lord ,king and God.

Is Art "trinitarian"

David

quote from Psalm1: [i]Now I am wondering what Art Katz view is on the diety of Jesus,my lord ,king and God.
Is Art "trinitarian"[/i]

In Art's defense, and as far as I have understood his position, he was a Trinitarian.
No need to worry, my appreciating him and his teachings need not make him 'suspect' and subject to an Inquisitorial Tribunal.

In the merit of Jesus,
the Son of the Living God,
Sharon

Now I am wondering what Art Katz view is on the diety of Jesus,my lord ,king and God.

Is Art "trinitarian"

phil

WildBranch,

I do not post here often as I hate arguing about things but rather enjoy dicussing them. I know alot of the time people here can attest to their own views without seemingly considering others. I also know that this site needs more love. Too much judgement on doctrine, and not enough on fruit. Its hard to tell who has fruit and who doesnt over the intranet but when in doubt just be quiet. Overall though I do not know your views but if you dont believe Christ is diety, I would not call you a heretic, but rather an unbeliever as all who are Christians(little Christs) must take His diety into them. I love you and I will try and pray for you. I dont mean to say anything i do not understand and know that this is only because of what I have read in this thread. May Jesus consume your heart and soul with His love and passion for your life.

WildBranch,

I understand what you're going through, but I think I need to advise you not to take it too personally.

Here's a rule I've learned (more recently) that there is no reason to get caught up in arguing on this forum, its very easy to walk away when someone tries to escalate something. I enjoy reading about devotional topics, and revival topics and about historic preachers, but I don't like nitpicking the finer points of doctrine.

I check in to see which topics are posted maybe once a day, and if I don't see anything interesting I don't post... I'm a much happier person now.

Thank you for the well wishes, and the encouragement to stay on from some of the posters.

It would be nice, but ultimately I do not agree with the Board's practice and toleration of judging the Eternal Destiny of others whom they hardly know. :-( That we have the right to replace the One who will be our judge, and loosely declare that this one or that one is unsaved, is unscriptural - the Scriptures do [i]not[/i] require one to believe a "Jesus is YHWH' creed, but simply, as Peter declared, *"You are the Christ, the SON of the Living God"*. Jesus did not rebuke or correct Peter for that declaration, and in fact He said that upon [i]that[/i] knowledge which had been given Peter [i]from the Father[/i], He (Jesus), would build His church. Notice Peter did not say: "[b]You are YHWH God, Creator of the Universe, the Immortal God of Israel[/b]", but "[b]the Son of the Living God[/b]". As I said before, I feel confident to stand with Peter on that declaration, knowing that Jesus affirmed it.:-)

*By Whom, the day and manner of Eternal Judgment is clearly set forth in the Scriptures*: [i](emphasis mine)[/i]

Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the [b]judgment seat of Christ[/b], that each one may receive the things done in the body, [b]according to what he has done, whether good or bad.[/b]

Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed [b]a day, in the which he will judge[/b] the world in righteousness [b][color=660000]by that man[/b][/color] whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Revelation 20:12-15 And I saw the dead, small and great, [b]standing before God[/b], and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. [b]And the dead were judged according to their works[/b], by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one [b]according to his works[/b]. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

As Jesus clearly said:
John 17: 3 "And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent".

[b][color=660000]I refuse to 'humanize' the Eternal God, call Him 100% God + 100% Man, a 'godman' or anything other than "Hear O Israel, the LORD our GOD, the LORD is one".[/color][/b]

Sharon

[i][b]**[/b]The story of Michael Servatus, who was burned at the stake for his pure monotheistic belief and rejection of the the trinitarian dogma and infant baptism, reminds us of how one (John Calvin), is venerated in the church today as one of the 'Fathers of the Reformation", with churches, schools etc being named after him. That he had someone slowly burned at the stake for [b]disagreeing[/b] with him, is one of those little secrets which christianity has chosen to sweep under the carpet. Michael Servatus was judged and condemned to die, while the true villian in the case has been honored among men, and his destructive Inquisitorial spirit is alive and well today.[b]**[/b][/i]

It concerns me that someone who says Jesus is not God considers themselves Christian.
One of the most telling verses in all of Scripture are
Colossians 1:15-17
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
The Holy Bible : King James Version. 1995 (electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version.) (Col 1:14-17). Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

Just one example of how Christ is seen as God throughout the entire New Testament.

The reason that the pharisees wanted to kill Jesus is because He claimed to be God

Forgive my boldness, but I understand that this debate is the reason for the goodbye in the first place.

The goodbyes have been said and debating the subject, yet again, isn't going to change anyone's mind. Continuing it, especially in this thread, is fruitless.

I am sorry to see you leave the boards, sister Wildbranch. I pray God will bless and keep you.

but "the Son of the Living God

I refuse to 'humanize' the Eternal God, call Him 100% God + 100% Man, a 'godman' or anything other than "Hear O Israel, the LORD our GOD, the LORD is one".

Sharon, I cannot understand your problem in believing that Jesus was human and also divine. Mind if I resort to nature to illustrate?

I grew up on a productive farm that was highly diversified. Among other things, Dad had a dairy where we milked Holsteins, Ayrshire's, and Guernsey cows. Until he used AI services he had an Angus bull to service the cows. The offspring from these Holsteins, Guernseys or Ayrshire's all looked black like their sire, but also have the characteristics of their dam (mother). A dairyman would never consider using the offspring of a mix like this as replacement cows in the dairy herd because the Angus breed is not a dairy animal but a beef. The point is the calf had the traits of both parents. Now, why is it hard to understand the divinity of Jesus whose Father was God? and the mother was Mary?

ginnyrose

Compliments wrote:

I think were splitting hairs here. Let the woman believe that Jesus is the Son of God. If Sharon believes also that Jesus is the way to the Father, that He is the Truth and the Life then let her dwell in the knowledge that has been given her. God forbid if anyone of us were to share how we see the God head, everyone would leave off Sharon and jump on us. :-(

Compliments,

The issue here lies in that Sharon has an agenda to debunk the truth of the Gospel. Since coming back on the baords, Sharon now has an agenda of spreading this false teaching to the brothers and sisters here. Anyone that would question her beliefs are treated as being "close minded", which in effect can be said exactly the same back.

Do we role over and allow the gospel to be tread upon for the sake of being PC? What should we do if not to defend the Gospel with a passion? The agenda that is being spread here is not for a deeper understanding of the Lord, but to convert all to an false gospel, doctrine and belief. Titus specifically talks about what to do with people who try to do this.

Simpleliving said it the best. Debating it here will not change anyone's minds.

For the most part though, Sharon respectivly said goodbye, but then she continued to preach her agenda. This agenda very well may lead people to hell, much less her own soul.

So to stand aside and allow to be taught what is unallowable, is unacceptable for most people here. I for one respect Sharon as a human being and love her, but I will continue to contend for the Lord and the truth, regardless if it offends her. The gospel IS offensive to those that don't believe in its truth.

And the truth is that what Sharon is preaching IS a fake gospel. As with ALL other fake gospels, this one belongs in the garbage with the rest

It would be nice, but ultimately I do not agree with the Board's practice and toleration of judging the Eternal Destiny of others whom they hardly know.

Do not know that is either the practice nor the example.

**The story of Michael Servatus, who was burned at the stake for his pure monotheistic belief and rejection of the the trinitarian dogma and infant baptism, reminds us of how one (John Calvin), is venerated in the church today as one of the 'Fathers of the Reformation", with churches, schools etc being named after him. That he had someone slowly burned at the stake for [b]disagreeing[/b] with him, is one of those little secrets which christianity has chosen to sweep under the carpet. Michael Servatus was judged and condemned to die, while the true villian in the case has been honored among men, and his destructive Inquisitorial spirit is alive and well today.**

And the inference is that challenging your statements is ... equal to this absurdity?

I refuse to 'humanize' the Eternal God, call Him 100% God + 100% Man, a 'godman' or anything other than "Hear O Israel, the LORD our GOD, the LORD is one".

[i]And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God[/i] ~ Joh 20:28

Thomas answering Jesus.

If you are offended, you are offended. It is unfortunate and would prefer to see you stay. But I have to ask when these declarations come forth what it is saying. If you were completely convinced of your stance then none of the challenges should present a problem whatsoever. This is similar to the test of the 'prophets' that raise an ire and a defense over their being put to the test of scripture, it doesn't compute and is telling of some lingering doubt that doesn't want to come to the surface.

The structure of this forum is such that we (the moderators) try and discern best how to deal with matters in any given moment. To be fair, I do not know that we might have done some things better, intervened at points, but again, we do not always catch every nuance that goes on in any given posting. Forgive us there.

Hope you might reconsider.

Complimennts wrote:

I personally don't see a problem with Sharon's stand on what she believes to be true, according to the scriptures.

What she is not accepting is the Trinity. And who can blame her? The Trinity was introduced in the New Testament, before that people knew Jehovah as the One true God.

[b]I think were splitting hairs here.[/b] Let the woman believe that Jesus is the Son of God. If Sharon believes also that Jesus is the way to the Father, that He is the Truth and the Life then let her dwell in the knowledge that has been given her. God forbid if anyone of us were to share how we see the God head, everyone would leave off Sharon and jump on us.

On a first sight this reasoning seems innocent, but what a powerful danger of destruction it is hidden there. Karl, how much we should watch in these last days and ages when thousands of new doctrines of men will hit the church, just with one purpose: to put it away from the truth. Brother Karl, be careful not to be used by the enemy to support the untruth concerning fundamental things with the statements 'it is splitting hears'. What a times of delusion are coming from all sides! What a war it is under heavenly places, every evil force is with one purpose, to led astray from the truth. Be zealous for the truth brother, be zealous and burn for it, otherwise it is dangerous.

Sister Annie mentioned that thread, I will also, because it is important.

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=20396&forum=36&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0]Was God tempted to worship Satan?[/url]

When a brother Nile was in doubting times of the truth and was introduced in a Satan's doctrines, wildbranch, came and supported him and helping him for getting away for the truth and establishing in error. This is a terrible sin.

If wildbranch came here in a humble way to learn and ask it is one thing, but it is other thing that she is spreading agenda and sowing doubts in the mind of people. What if some new in the faith came and read her doctrines? We will be responsible for allowing her for spreading them.

These are not subjects of eating meat or not, it's about life or death, it's about the person of our Lord Jesus. There is not playing games with these things in the name of love and good will.

wildbranch wrote

I refuse to 'humanize' the Eternal God, call Him 100% God + 100% Man, a 'godman' or anything other than "Hear O Israel, the LORD our GOD, the LORD is one".

Here is a simple test in the bible.

1 John 4:2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Do you believe that He
Did he His shed human blood or not?

Was he the son of man or not?
If he did not die as God in human flesh our sins are not forgiven and there is no hope at all.
God might as well pack up his whole universe because his whole plan of salvation would be undone.

Philip

I think one of the biggest issues we have as Christians is that we love to play Judge and Jury. Saul (Paul) did it then, and many of you (many of us) still to this day do it. Interestingly enough, many of you (many of us) spend a good portion of the day on a forum full of Christians, judging one another rather then praying and showing Christ-like concern for the truly lost and truly dying.

Things like,

"What should we do if not to defend the Gospel with a passion?"

"And the truth is that what Sharon is preaching IS a fake gospel. As with ALL other fake gospels, this one belongs in the garbage with the rest."

"When a brother Nile was in doubting times of the truth and was introduced in a Satan's doctrines, wildbranch, came and supported him and helping him for getting away for the truth and establishing in error. This is a terrible sin."

We can have a passion for God, and for Scripture, but just as was Saul (Paul), we are not to be the Judge and Jury.

I agree with this statement,

"gospel IS offensive to those that don't believe in its truth."

Truth sets us free, and if we can't stand on that alone, what do we have any business doing trying to [u]force[/u] people what they should and should not believe?

I find it odd that so many of you (so many of us) bicker and argue back and forth over Scripture. We all (you all) fight using Scripture. It's so ironic. You say, "Scripture says this, "...," and someone will ARGUE back, "well Scripture says this, "..." and this, "...," and this is what I believe, "..." and I'M RIGHT because of what this Scripture, "..." says.

It's astounding that we are Christians on a forum and are fighting against one another quoting Scriptures as our defense mechanism to prove one another being wrong.

AGAIN, we ARE NOT Judge, nor Jury. It's one thing to quote Scripture and share your viewpoint in a Christ-like and loving, and peaceful manner, but it's another thing to quote Scipture and say that a certian someone may very well be going to hell and taking souls with them, and condemning them based on your own personal viewpoint of Scripture.

I can just see God looking down upon this site of thousands of forums and being saddend and dis-heartend at the sight of us "condemning each other to hell" based upon our own personal viewpoint and belief of Scripture.

To say,

"We will be responsible for allowing her for spreading them."

Someone else said,

"Be zealous for the truth brother, be zealous and burn for it, otherwise it is dangerous."

It's one thing to be zealous for the truth, and zealous we should be, but to say this on a forum implied to one's justification and reasoning for condemning and judging someone for their differences, or albeit, misunderstandings of Scripture is completely in error.

Now, in saying all this, I do believe because of all the overwhelming evidence all throughout Scripture, both in the Old and New Testament, that Wildbranch has a misunderstanding of who God is and what He is capable of being (i.e. both God and man through Jesus Christ.) However, if the Scripture that is laid out before her in her daily reading, or the Scripture that we provide as evidence to this truth does not shed light upon her misunderstanding, then we will not be held responsible for whatever God says to her, at the judgement seat. We should be concerned for our own actions and what God may, or may not say to our own selves at the Judgement seat.

Trust me, it doesn't work for God's benefit, nor our benefit, at the time of judgement, if we have spent our lives judging one another and sharing in harsh words, rather than lifting one another up, showing compassion, love, respect, mercy, grace, understanding and etc.

If someone is in the wrong, we should be praying for them, and praying for ourselves, that our hearts are right, true, pure, and holy.

** you know, it's interesting; I too, use to come on here all the time, and I don't so much anymore. When I first found this site, I was overjoyed! I was ecstatic! "I had finally found a site" where some of today's Christians have a common bond with the likes of some of "the greats" (i.e. Tozer, Ravenhill etc.) and seeking revival and the idea of coming back to a place of true Christianity that once was. A place where there was an understanding that there is too much of the fake, self-imaging, self-gratifying, self-indulging crud going on in the church today amongst the pastors, leadership, and congregation, and that we must put God back in church.

You know, we fight and we argue and we bicker, and we complain that God needs to be put back in our schools and so forth, in the meantime we overlook the fact that through our own actions much of God is being taken out of our churches and He's certianly having less effect in our own lives with the conversations we have on here and other places.

Even on these forums I see that most Christians on here live to please one's own self rather than living up to the meaning of the term: Christian (little Christ), and being slaves to Christ and slaves to righteousness.

Think upon this, if you will: Considering all the criticising, judgement, condemnation, and bashing and nashing of teeth that goes on here in these forums, do you think Jesus, Tozer, Ravenhill, Poonen, Moses, Daniel, David, Paul, Peter, James, John, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Ruth, Esther, Elisha, Elijah, or anyone else who lived a life worthy in God's eyes, would be caught on here doing what many, if a dare say, "most" of you do on here? I think not.

It's such a shame to see that many of us, here on these forums, are partipating in the "deadening of the church."

It saddens me that Wildbranch can't be welcomed here with open arms. Instead she has to be criticized and judged in such an un-Christ-like manner that she is leaving. This says a lot about you all, and this says alot about where you stand with Christ (which, I hate to say, is not by His side).

:-(

Wildbranch, it is such a down-right shame that you have been treated in such ways that Christ is, and would be, appalled at. I pray that you would find it in your heart to forgive the unChrist-like immaturity that has been displayed to you on these forums.

14Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against [u][b]quarrelling about words; it[/b][/u]is of no value, and [b]only ruins those who listen[/b]. 15Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16[b]Avoid godless chatter[/b], because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17Their teaching [u][b]will spread like gangrene[/b][/u]. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18who have [b]wandered away from the truth[/b]. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19Nevertheless,[u][b] God's solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription:[/u][/b] [b]"The Lord knows those who are his,"[a] and, "Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness."[/b]

20[b]In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble[/]. 21If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy,[b] useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work[/].

22Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23[u][b]Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels[/b][/u]. 24And the Lord's [b]servant must not quarrel[/b]; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.

nowhr2hide wrote:
14Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against [u][b]quarrelling about words; it[/b][/u]is of no value, and [b]only ruins those who listen[/b]. 15Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16[b]Avoid godless chatter[/b], because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17Their teaching [u][b]will spread like gangrene[/b][/u]. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18who have [b]wandered away from the truth[/b]. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19Nevertheless,[u][b] God's solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription:[/u][/b] [b]"The Lord knows those who are his,"[a] and, "Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness."[/b]

This is a great post and so was Ben's and I tried to say somewhat the same here many times in my own words to no avail but getting barked at by someone, but these forums can be like a drug to some folks, I know been there done that bought the shirt, but to see a so called Christian forum with saying some of the things said here wow!well I just write it off to this scripture Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Regardless of what one believes or says In a world full of fear, Christians need to share the love of God with others, and let them know the love, hope, and salvation that is in Christ. Now back to my vacation. :-)

Best advise I can give is a short vacation away really does work, my stress level is in the negative since my short vacation from here. :-P

Compliments, I highly respect you and appreciate your posts here. I just want to make some comments on your arguments for the trinity. It's not my goal to dissuade you from your belief in the trinity, but to hopefully show you that when you get down and dirty, the issue is not as clear as it looks.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

It's clear here, you can't get away from it.

1) Do a case study on the word "logos". If you use the word as it is consitently used throughout the New Testament, John 1:1-3 does not support the trinity. Also, the "he" in John 1:2-3 was not put there until recent times. Look at the Geneva Bible, no "he". I'm just asking you to realize that there are other interpretations which are [i]not[/i] blatently dishonest and which do not suppor the trinity. I'm not supporting either position, but I am saying there is a case to be made on each side - including the unitarian postion - a case which I feel most here are not willing to honestly look at and understand.

John 13:19 Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.

The "he" is in Italics, it was added by the translators, it's not in the original Greek. It originally reads, "I AM".

Doesn't this argument fall to pieces when we realize that Jesus is not the only person in the New Testament to utter the same exact words "I AM" without the [i]he[/i]? It is no big thing that there is no he - that is just the way the greek grammer works.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

You can't get any planer than this.

But...1) Jesus is not the only one to be called "God" in the Old Testament, 2) Jesus is not called "YHWH" which would really say he is God, 3) the New Testament does not say this refers to Jesus, and 4) the context implies this passage is not refering to Jesus, a fact which many Christian scholars will attest to.

It could be a lot clearer for me.

Nile

One thing we were taught at CPC - in our training to be counselors - is to not take things personal. And this has wide applications.

When one shares the pure Word, you put a lot of it into your post, right? A lot of mental energy. Then when someone else does not appreciate your post, you feel bad, like you were slapped. The reality is that when you share the Word, it will usually attract some opposition somewhere. If the opposition is directed to you personally, that will give one a run for his money, but if it is against the Word, it is against God and we are not to experience slighted because this belongs to God: it is not my idea, it is God's. Having said that, one must be extremely careful to not quote scripture out of context and try to make it say something different from its original intention. This is how cults get started and what fuels their fire.

The short of the long is to allow the Holy Spirit to direct our fingers and that becomes a challenge to us - to ME. I have had to delete posts that when finished I did not sense the pleasure of the LORD with it! And even when that happens it does not mean everyone will like it! A body also needs to harness his emotions so they will not get hurt.

My opinion - like it or not! lol

ginnyrose

See some folks just fly right by the meat of the message that was just wrote in the past few posts, it's not the agreements or disagreements on the scriptures, it's the down right low blows and the bickering, but as I said, the ones that won't listen "won't" and the ones that will listen "will" only God can change people but sometimes these forums sure does make his job harder. :-)

Does anyone else see that when quarter is given to a false gospel, it grows in many different ways that are not healthy for the body?

Was this the whole mission of this false gospel in the first place, to create disunity among the brethren and have us start questioning each other and turning on each other? Mission acomplished?

Thank you very much to all that have stood and continue to stand by the truth that Jesus is Lord and God. When the days of tribulation come to you, I know that you will be one to not shy away from the truth. I pray for strength and perseverance for all who will not compromise the truth in order to appease man.

Compliments wrote:
Nile said:

It's not my goal to dissuade you from your belief in the trinity

Who said that I was Trinitarian? :-o

Sorry, my apologies!

This is one long goodbye! :-) I hope if I ever go (for whatever reason)that people care enough to make a fuss about it. Come to think of it, many other fine people (like Wildbranch) have left here before without so much as a syllable uttered on their behalf. Wildbranch...you might be smarting over some comments made to you, (who hasn't giveth and revieveth even a little?) but one thing for sure is that the people here are not indifferent to you.

Admit it...you're going to miss us, aren't you? ;-)

MC

I can only remember two of my last three final goodbyes.

The one i cant remember was the most radical but i cant seem to remember what or who yanked my chain.

Well anyway i did come back after every final goodbye.

I wasn't going to tell yall but then I heard a rumor that somebody else went through 4 final goodbyes. (but came back every time)

David

The title of this thread alone irks me. This seems so childish. People disagree with me so I am leaving. The dramatic goodbye. Is it really not just attention seeking behavior? Sitting back, looking to see who cares about me.

This is not about Sharon. It is about anyone who does this. If you are leaving. Go.

This may sound harsh. I have three small children. I recognize a tantrum when I see one.

Murray

Please don't quote to me about going after the last sheep or pulling people out of the fire. This is not the same.

Faith is believing what God said, even if we don't quite understand ourselves the intricate workings

Once we take God at His Word, it's still OK to say....OK I believe You, but my mind needs to be renewed to understanding these things.....Our minds are renewed...and we have the Mind of Christ in these matters. The Natural man cannot understand the things of the Spirit,

Amen!

Why is it that in the natural realm of life we go about our business, doing, believing things, using things whose inner workings we do not understand with no thought. We do not decide to disbelieve something/someone just because we do not understand it. This entire thing of rejecting the deity of Jesus reminds me what happened when I was a little girl: our neighbors had a floor model radio. (This was back in the early 1950s.) I was utterly fascinated by the music that radiated from that piece of furniture. I was utterly convinced there were tiny people inside singing, even when adults told me otherwise: no wood can sing like that, and neither can the lights nor the tubes that I saw! No, it has to be little people inside! Since I was sure the adults did NOT know what they were saying, I continued believing there indeed were little people inside which gave me a measure of comfort...but I grew up - eventually.

The point is we apply principles in understanding to the Word that we do not use in everyday living. Rather arrogant, do you not think?

ginnyrose

Think this has ran it's course.