I Found An Old Hymnal

Rivqah,

What a wonderful book.

I would agree that the best course for preserving a desirable book book that is beyond repair is to copy the pages. If you feel the book contents have sufficient importance, you might consider scanning all of the pages and saving them, rather then copying/printing them. An inexpensive color scanner can provide at least a 600 DPI RGB image. (Most provide much higher resolution.) This process will require that you gently separate all of the pages from their binding, using an X-Acto knife at times.

I would scan all of the pages, including the cover page, tables of contents, forewords and introductions, and indexes. Scan them in color to retain as much subtle information as possible.

With these scans, you will have preserved the book. Not only can websites like Cyberhymnal make use of the files, but someone with imaging software like photoshop can clean up the pages and rebuild the book for digital printing if so desired.

A few of the more select pages from the disassembled book might make nifty gifts if they were mounted in a small frame behind glass for display in a home or office. :-)

Blessings,

MC

What an excellent find! In regards to preserving the original I would recommend getting some 'acid free preservation paper', maybe you could get a sealable tray and line it with the preservation paper. I'm not quite sure where you would get the paper from, however, professional picture framers often use preservation paper to use inside picture frames when dealing with delicate artwork. So maybe ask a local picture framer. I would not expect it to be very expensive.

i just Scroogled it...and found this link to the hymnbook..http://www.songquery.com/html/title/f/favorite_songs_and_hymns_hymnal_hardbound_blue_brentwood_benson_music.html

i haven't checked the other titles yet to see if it is the same hymns...but the one about hell is there and the hymnbook is available for purchase

want to saye you alot of work....

Rivqah wrote:
I was at an antique store and I found an old hymnal. The pages are so old they flake as soon as you try to turn the pages. I know Cyber Hymnal is looking for the words to some of these songs so I am going to send it to them one by one. I decided the best thing to do is to scan them but I'm not sure where to store them. Any advice? Here's the first one, some of the pages are gone unfortunately. If I'm not allowed to paste the images please let me know.

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yes is it is the same hymn book.....all the songs listed are in the site that i listed...but it is a real beauty of a hymnbook...i woulnd't mind picking up a copy......

for you guitar players out there i just found another hymn website that has alot of these type of songs that we play bluegrass style...on a website that has all the chords for stringed instruments .........ie G C D7 etc...

http://www.gospelmusic.org.uk/

i have confirmed on the wikipedia that this hymnal displayed is the shape note edition...on the notes it has the little triangles and squares on the staffs

I have been enjoying these hymns as you post them. Thank you!

What do the shape notes mean - the triangles and the squares?

I think the shape notes are to help the congregation find the do re mi relative to the key they are all singing in. It was an aid to assist conventional sight reading at a time before radio, when more people were schooled in basic music.

It seems incredible to me to think there was a time when many church congregations sang the harmonies in these hymns as noted without choir practice. :-)

MC

I went to a Church of Christ for awhile - they sing the harmonies without musical instruments or choir practice. Coming from a church that had loud music, the first time I heard it I actually cried.

It was when I went to a prayer meeting at Maranatha Church in MO that I heard what our Lord intended music to be - how our voices were to be lifted up to Him - in unison. Oh the beauty of it! I really did think that my heart would burst.

What hymn is this: "If Men Go To Hell Who Cares?"

I can't seem to find the lyrics for this hymn, and the title has certainly peaked my interest.

Immediately makes me remember Keith Green's song, Asleep in the Light.

Do you see, do you see?
All the people sinking down.
Don't you care, don't you care?
Are you going to let them drown?
How can you be so numb not to care if they come?

A little bit more info about shaped notes.

When I went to school in the 50s we were taught to read them and since I already was skilled in reading round notes I memorized them long enough to pass the test and then forgot them because round notes gave the same info.

The notes were read do, re, me, fa, sol, la, ti do and each note had a different shape. So you did not even have to know the key in which a song was written: just know the shape and you knew what note it was. Now I could also id each note (do, re, etc.) if it was round by its placement on the staff. Make sense?

Now if you can sing notes - by do, re, me - you can take any song and learn it by singing the notes. This is fun to do. No musical instrument is required to accomplish it. Some day I want to teach it to our children in our church since they have all been spoiled by piano, guitar lessons and cannot learn a new song without hearing it otherwise first.

Make sense?

Blessings,
ginnyrose

Hi ginnyrose,

Are the do, re, me's the same as in the movie the Sound of Music? (for some reason I was just singing that song the other day - practicing as it were :-) ).

If I understand correctly, there are then only seven combinations of symbols to memorize the sound of - just a square is one, a circle above a triangle is another, etc.

Does anyone happen to know the symbol for each sound? This does sound like fun.

I found it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_note

Thank you!

Sacred Heart Singing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHUfHNEZDPc

Are the do, re, me's the same as in the movie the Sound of Music?

Yes. The one and same.

I did not check out the links provided in the posts after mine, but would think they are what I am talking about.

About church hymnals: I have purchased them in thrift stores. When ever I go to one, I will check out the books and if I find one, and if I do not have it, I will likely buy it. They are very inexpensive. I have one book I found at an antique store: "Victorious Service Songs" compiled by Homer Rodeheaver, edited by Charles H. Gabriel, copyrighted 1925 and someday I want to sing through it by virtue of singing the notes first!

Yes, these books are out there but you may have to shop at old booksellers' bookstores, antique shops and thrift stores. And they are cheap. Actually, at one thrift store the cashier refused to take money for a hymnal saying she could not in good conscience accept money for it!

Have fun!

ginnyrose

Another thing. When singing notes it is very helpful to start in the correct key. A pitch pipe is very helpful in doing this. They can be found in music stores - at least you can in my neck of the woods.

A pitch pipe is shaped like a 'cookie' and similar to a harmonica with reeds but each hole will correspond to a note on the staff. More details about this can be found online....

Blessings,
ginnyrose

PS: The reason I used the word "cookie" - there is this story of a child who asked his mother why the song leader always takes a bite of a cookie before starting the song! :-)

Thank you for posting this :-D .

Just what I needed!

Oh how I love Jesus!