My wife...

Dear Saints,

Some of you know that my wife and I have been married for a little over a year. During that time we have prayed for and have been trying to have a baby. Since I met my wife, she has always had stomach problems, especially during her menstruation. Having never seen a gynecologist, she had always been reluctant to go, even by my encouragements. Last week, she finally agreed to go for a check-up.

Unfortunately (I'm reluctant to write that word, because I know God has everything under control),they found several cysts on her right ovary, but more troublesome was the large one on her left ovary. The doctor took some blood work and some other tests and asked us to come back within a month; after her next cycle. Since the visit, I have searched the Internet and have asked my mom about this and it seems to be 'no big deal' and 'quite common'.

Understanding that to be the case, I felt more at ease, but then today the doctor phoned back to say that my wife needs a shot (needle), to help protect any potential pregnancy which we may have, for she is lacking something in her body. Apparently (my info is just second hand information from a quick telephone conversation, translated into English from Korean), we will have to use contraceptives for the next three to five months, because there is a high likelihood that pregnancy within this period would result in a handicapped (i am not sure of the proper word) child.

As I am still in the dark about most of this, I would just appreciate some Saintly prayers. Maybe some or most of you, especially 'moms and dads' have experience in this area. For the rest of you...some good old prayer would be nice.

Blessings,
Brian and Mira... hense BrianMira

p.s. There is a definate lesson to be learned...since I thought she just had bad PMS...men take note. :-( :-) :-(

Praying for your wives Paul and Brian. I was very sick with all five of my pregnancies, it was alot of time of resting and trusting. It was so bad I wanted to drive off a bridge and even thought about it as I was driving myself to the hospital. I know I wouldn't have done it but I was not in my right mind having gone months without nourishment or any rest. God knows though how much you can endure and will not suffer you to be tempted above what you can bear.(1 Cor. 10:13)

PaulWest wrote:
All five were like this? Yes, I remember you telling me.

Yea, I like that quote in "Rocky" even though I don't like the movie anymore:

"I didn't hear any bell yet!" :-D

That is a good quote! :-) But I wasn't saying that when I was sick.

and she is still vomitting almost incessantly. She's vomitted so much that her esophagus is burnt by all the hydrochloric acid coming up, and her throat bleeds.

I had the same symptoms she has. I have heard of women breaking ribs throwing up. That's the thing is you are throwing up with an empty stomach so it's just the acid in your stomach. I think I damaged my sternum. I was sick for the first seven months of all five pregnancies but they all turned out healthy thank God. :-)

Please keep Brian and Paul's wives in prayer. Their wives are going through very rough pregnancies and I'm sure they could use some prayer too.

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It is very possible that both of your wives' problems could stem from too much Estrogen and they would really benefit from progesterone. It might be helpful to look into some natural remedies that might be more effective in healing than the traditional medical route. I'm certainly not very knowledgeable on this topic, but I do know that there is hope for these problems to be overcome and many women have been helped by taking a progesterone cream or progesterone vitamin E oil (the best stuff I've heard of is Progest E complex oil).

I'll be praying for both ladies to find healing and relief from their sufferings.

~Joy

Vitamin B6 is helpful too but the problem is if your sick you can't hold anything down. I hate how they call it "morning sickness". It's not just in the morning for alot of women. For some it last all day into the night. It really wears you out big time, especially when your sick like that for months. I got to where the room was spinning and the walls felt like they were closing in on me. Then my breathing got really shallow and slow by about the seventh month out of pure exhaustion. Thank God I made it though. He knows how much we can bear. God is very merciful.

I wish I had not complained so much while I was going through that. It probably would have wrought a much greater work in me spiritually.

My advice is forget that saltine/ginger ale advice, unless it works for her because it didn't me and just eat whatever you desire that is healthy. For me I mostly ate cereal and fruit.

PaulWest wrote:
Marissa tried vitamin B6 - and vomitted the capsules up. She tried ginger and it made her even more sick. Hyperemesis is not really the same as morning sickness; it's classified as a disease which can be diagnosed by intense weight-loss and extreme vomitting and dehydration in women. This, in turn, leads to severe vitamin deficiency and subsequent hospitalization. My wife has already been hospitalized twice in the past two months, and was on TPN for about a week and a half before her laproscopic cholestectomy.

[url=http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Hyperemesis+Gravidarum+]Hyperemesis Gravidarum[/url]

Before her surgery, nothing worked; no amount of saltines, water, gingerale, fruit, nothing. If she even saw a TV commercial on food she would begin dry-heaving bile and blood. I had to eat all my meals away from home...but the worst of it all was I couldn't brew my coffee in the mornings.

At that point, I seriously didn't know who was worse off - me or her :).

I know brother Paul, it's bad stuff. My husband is the same way when it comes to his coffee.:-) I wish I knew what causes it but I think it is the curse of Eve. Her symptoms sound just like what I had. I didn't get sick though if I saw something on TV but I did when my husband didn't know what to buy grocery shopping and bought a weeks worth of speghetti--and it was the spicy stuff--PREGO. I hate PREGO! But I always did the cooking and shopping and now he had to. I felt really bad about it. Than one night someone cooked fish---in the house!:-)

PaulWest wrote:

Than one night someone cooked fish---in the house

Oh man, if I cooked fish I think I would become our next client at the funeral home. Funny you speak of spaghetti - it must be a guy thing because I went out and bought a several pounds of pasta and spicy marinara sauce (my favorite), thinking I could boil noodles quick and easy after work...but Marissa just about had an aneurysm with my first bowl. Turns out the smell of noodles boiling in water wafted into our bedroom - beneath the closed door, mind you - and caused her to begin vomitting. So now I have a half a ton of pasta and sauce in the pantry and I can't eat any of it. All I can do is look at it and dream. I thought I had everything covered, turning on the stove vent and all. Pregnant women have noses like bloodhounds on steroids...and I found this out the hard way.

You could try cooking on the grill. :-) Your right about our keen sense of smell. I would get sick over the smell of the paper trees down the road.lol!

PaulWest wrote:
But she's gotten better since then, praise God, and is now starting to eat certain fruit like strawberries and pickles (yes, cucumbers are considered fruit, botanically), and she actually just called 15 minutes ago wanting me to bring her home some peanuts, potato chips and apple juice. Now I'm getting scared.

:-o

Well that is a definite improvement, praise God! I have been so burdened for you both all day having been there and done that ourselves. I know exactly what she is going through if that is any comfort to her. It's very difficult when women cannot take care of thier families they way they need to be cared for and do the basic things you need to do. It makes you feel like such a failure. I'm sure she'll fight her way through this with God's help very soon. She seems like such a strong woman. :-)

It sounds like your doing all the right things. We live in Florida so we do alot of grilling too.

PaulWest wrote:
I'll be keeping you and your wife in my prayers. My wife is pregnant right now, and she's going through an extremely hard pregnancy.

Brother, the Lord will see us through no matter what happens, just like the Lord will see you and your precious wife though - [i]no matter what happens.[/i] In the face of barreness and complications the strength of our Lord shines forth like the sun. There's something about barreness and difficult pregnacies (or not being able to conceive) that God uses to show His strength; whether it be with Abraham and barren Sarah, Jacob and barren Rachel, Jabez's painful birth, Hannah's barreness (the mother of Samuel), Manoah's barren wife (the mother of Samson), Elisha and the barren Shunammite, Elizabeth's barreness (John the Baptist's mother), and of course, the most miraculous birth of all which is our Lord coming forth from a virgin womb.

So, you see, we're in good company...and even better Hands.

:-)

Brother Paul

AMEN... I see that to be so true. You are in my prayers...now.

Blessings,
BrianMira (if anyone likes proper pronunciations in prayer, it is MeRa...or MeeRa...me, me, me, me...as in me,myself, and I...although, God knows who you are praying for)

Thank you all.

Rivqah wrote:
Praying for your wives Paul and Brian.... It was so bad I wanted to drive off a bridge and even thought about it as I was driving myself to the hospital. ... God knows though how much you can endure and will not suffer you to be tempted above what you can bear.(1 Cor. 10:13)

Thank you, Rivqah. Some of this has caused some tension in our home and has given us both ideas similar to that, even without babies. Thankfully, we have God first in both of our lives, so we know who to turn to and lean on when neither of us knows the answer.

PaulWest wrote:
God is in total control, and God is in control of Brian and his wife too.

AMEN.

Theophila wrote:
oral contraceptives especially for a short period ...is a good strategy.

...oppossed to condoms?

Since she's in such discomfort, I wouldn't ignore it as usual pain relievers mayn't help her.
Bottom line: please explore the docs recommendation.

I agree.

Neither of you can really understand how your wives feel but the One who knows is more than able to give you peace.

SHALOM.

I agree. What we need is His peace.

Thank you also for your suggestions.

consecrateme wrote:

I know this can be very "scary" but days before the surgery the Lord gave me this verse one day sitting at church. Mark 5:34 He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace and be freed from your suffering."

I had such peace the Lord gave me. May the Lord guide and take control over this situation. Praying for you and your wife.

Yeah, this is a little scary...especially the possibility of not being able to have any babies...

Blessings.

Rivqah wrote:
Please keep Brian and Paul's wives in prayer. Their wives are going through very rough pregnancies and I'm sure they could use some prayer too.

Just to clear up any misunderstanding...Paul's wife is pregnant and going through a rough period. My wife is not pregnant, although she is having a rough time with her period... :-(

Although, we hope to have a baby, God willing.

Roniya wrote:
It might be helpful to look into some natural remedies that might be more effective in healing than the traditional medical route.

My wife and I have experimented with this route and are hopefully going to find something, even if it is for regular healthy living.

I'm certainly not very knowledgeable on this topic...

...me neither, but with everyone's help here, I am definately learning.

but I do know that there is hope

...me too..we'll look into your suggestions.

I'll be praying for both ladies to find healing and relief from their sufferings.
~Joy

Thank you. You are appreciated.

We will take Joy any day of the week.

Rivqah wrote:
God is very merciful.

I wish I had not complained so much while I was going through that. It probably would have wrought a much greater work in me spiritually.

Yes, He is. One of my prayers is that my wife does 'not complain so much'... or rather, that I have more patience. It seems that I get the blunt end most of the time, which fortunately leads me to more prayer...but i admit that I get pushed to the end of my rope sometimes.

ccchhhrrriiisss wrote:
Praying.

Thank you, Chris...

Rivqah wrote:
It's very difficult when women cannot take care of thier families they way they need to be cared for and do the basic things you need to do. It makes you feel like such a failure.

I know you wrote this to Paul, but it is quite applicable to our situation as well. My wife has had stress because of her new job...which I will get into in a moment, once I respond to everyone....

thomasm wrote:
Praying.

I just humbly acepted His word...take Him at His word, if your sick trust the sripes of Jesus...because Jesus became a curse for us , at the cross.

Love in Christ tom

Blessings, Tom... I pray that we share similar experiences.

Dear Saints,

Again, I thank you for your prayers. My wife is doing all the things she usually does and getting along fine. However, we are no further along with the cysts, nor knowing the next step to take. Apparently, the doctor phoned yesterday and said that the blood test showed no signs of cancer (thank, God). Mira still has to go into the doctor and get a vaccination for any possible pregnancy.

None of this answers the questions as to why she has horrible pain during menstration and other bodily concerns such as continuous urination and bowl movements, even with the slightest amount of food intake. Last night and early this morning, she has been suffering from dry heaving. Another thing that she has noticed, which I am afraid to admit is that she is experiencing hair loss.

There is a chance that none of these things are related and that we will find a cure for everything, but the truth is that the symptoms, along with her teaching job (which I am trying to get her to quit or cut back from), her 'obsession' to also be a 'homemaker' and have everything 'perfectly' clean and tidy before starting her day, and the uncertainty that she feels at somewhat fault for not having a baby has added to her burden. I do help, really, but I feel that all of this is making whatever 'it is' much worse by the stress.

Like I mentioned, it becomes strenuous and trying on our relationship.

So, my prayer is not necessarily for 'healing', although I would not resist God's healing hand, but rather for more faith, hope, and definately for more LOVE.

I think my wife has used this experience to draw closer to the Lord, and realize, yes, sometimes the son or daughther of God must suffer like everyone else in the world. We get sick, we hurt, we die, but through it all the Lord is with us.

There is so much truth in what you say (and experience). Over the past couple of days my wife has been feeling a little better, but I have been having migraines to the point of vomiting. Our experiences have drawn us closer to God and in our relationship with one another.

We're having a son!
Bro Paul

As you said, 'we are in good company!'

Blessings,
BrianMira

My wife and I went to the doctor yesterday so that she could get a rubella-German measles shot and to check the cysts on her ovarys.

The cysts have not reduced in size, so the doctor said for us to wait another month to measure them again.

My wife still suffers from pain, but we are still praying for an answer.

Thank you, ginnyrose and to the rest of you.

We have another question or possible issue. I went to hug my wife two days ago (not that that was the only time I hugged her...) and she let out a cry. Without giving too much 'detail', her left upper chest hurt and has continued to for the past two days. I strongly suggested that she visit the doctor... but today she said it was ok.

Is this normal after a rubella shot or ...something else?

ginnyrose wrote:

something else?

Could easily be! ;-)

ginnyrose

Possibly, but we have been extra 'careful' and have also been hesitant because the doctor said that a pregnancy within 3 months of a rubella shot could result in an unwanted outcome...

...a little update and a request for more prayer.

My wife has been doing well, without pains or strains. We are not quite sure what the problem was or is, but we are thankful for the relief.

We went to a new (Christian) doctor who speaks English and helped another Christian couple we know. She said that my wife's cysts still exist and she was given a shot for her hormones, but that after an indirect sperm test the doctor mentioned that 'they' are not making it 'up stream'.

She did not say that this was the only cause of our infertility although it could be the problem.

So, my prayer is just to be in His will; no more and no less.

Thank you.

Blessings,
BrianMira

...it seems as though my lovely wife and I have been patiently waiting for her menstruation to start... for 12 days! :-?

Yesterday, we decided to take a home pregnancy test, but it was one that we picked up in Canada (EDIT: after confirming with my wife, we apparently bought the first one in Korea before we went to Canada [NOTE: proof read once and get wife to really proof read!!!]) and we had since threw away the directions, which meant we were not sure what we were 'looking for'. After a few moments we noticed something different...

Curiously, we proceed to leave the house and once down the street my wife realized that she forgot her wallet, so I suggested that we pick up another take home test. At home, she 'double checked' the directions and again we found something different...

Very curious now, I asked her to check out the other take home test and we noticed again something different...

Three tests, two bars on each test, which apparently indicate something not-so different and actually signify pregnancy, prompts me to inform you all that we are...unsure, but that we would appreciate Saintly prayer.

We will go to the doctor tomorrow or the next day. It depends on my wife's schedule. She put her months notice in and will work her last day tomorrow, so she may not have time.

Our prayer is no different than when we first began this journey together; to Glorify Him.

I must confess though: I am quite delighted. :-D

Only By Grace,
BrianMira

:-) We are pregnant!

Pray for us, please!

November 24, 2009 due date...

:-D

Praise God!

Praise the Lord!!! I rejoice with you!

:-D

...more prayer needed and appreciated.

My wife is almost 7 weeks pregnant and she has been bleeding for several days. We have been going to the doctor every day, but they cannot give us a definate answer as to the reason, although she has been getting a hormone shot each time.

She has been getting sick and feeling pain also.

All could be "normal"...this is new for us.

Whatever happens, we just want to trust in GOD.

Thank You in advance!
BrianMira

How is Mira doing, Brian? I'm praying for ya'll.

Mira has still been sick with little ability to hold down food for any amount of time. She has been bleeding for quite some time, too.

We might take some godly advice and stop with the hormone shots...

We will go to the doctor tomorrow and we will keep you up to date.

Although, on a lighter note, she has been getting plenty of R&R and I have been trying my best to meet her needs and wants, while at the same time make her smile and laugh.

We are both growing through this experience. God is wonderful and even as I type these words she is beside me sleeping on the floor (a Korean thing and actually comfortable...at times) and I sense the Holy Spirit filling my soul with His love, so that I can love her more.

Glory to Him,
BrianMira

Thanks for your prayers and words of wisdom.

Hi Brian,

I've been longing to ask how Mira's been doing, and found the answer to my question in another thread. Thanks for this little update:

my wife has been doing much much better. We had an ultrasound the other day (we are able to as often as we like) and the stubby (9 week) sweetheart started dancing. We were tickled.

Saints,

It has been some time since I have posted about our developments. Mira has been doing well and we have been regularly visiting the doctor. Actually, we will be going to visit our doctor today for the last time before we begin seeing a new doctor, where we have decided to have the delivery.

They said the due date is November 24th, but as you know dates change. Since, we are really uncertain about how much time we have, I am just requesting some more Saintly prayer over the next few weeks.

A couple of weeks ago, the ultra sound showed that our baby (Brianna Kimberly) was only 4lbs+, so we are praying that all is progressing and that Mira does not have any complications.

That being said, we truly want to Glorify God.

Thank you,
BrianMiraBrianna

At 36 weeks + 4 days - 5lbs 13oz... a little small and they said that my wife is still 'closed shut'.

Thank you for your prayers.

...will update...

she's in labour

congratulations too brother, praise God.

Thank you all for your prayers and support.

As of Wednesday, November 18 at 12:50 pm, we became the grateful parents of an ever so cute (beautiful too) 5.6 lb baby girl.

I didn't leave Mira's side and helped with the delivery (the doctor wasn't there until late and they ended up doing a 'vacuum extraction'), but I thank God for enabling her to go through such an ordeal.

Thank God for women!

I will bring momma and daughter home Friday after a couple of days of rest. For now, off to work...

Thanks again and thank God.

Hi Brian and Mira,

WELL DONE!

Glad to hear you are all safe and sound, despite the mechanical assistance at the end.

May you [i]all[/i] get some rest now... :-)

Please give Mira love and congratulations. I pray for an uneventful recovery, and that the baby quickly gets the hang of feeding regularly.

I praise God for His faithfulness to you all.