Krispy is disheartened

wait did you start the thread here? or was it a "non relegous" site?

wow my spelling is bad

You are in basic training. Just start another one. No one gets anywhere by murmuring and complaining.

:-)

Krispy

I am sorry that this happened. Don't let the actions of others rob you of the joy He has given you though. I will be praying for everyone.

God Bless you brother
MJ

Edit: Remember that the closer you draw to the Lord the more the enemy will try to attack you.

Quote: KrispyKrittr wrote: I start a thread glorifying the Lord for His work in my life... and come on here today to see that because of the behavior of a few... the thread is locked.

Krispy You really need to pm the moderator Crrsschk, about that via pm. not here on the forum.

I guess I'm just stunned at how you requested in Krispy's other thread that Mike be removed as a moderator and now you are telling Krispy what to do. You said his behavior was out of line. What are we to make of this? Did you not ask a few weeks ago, "Where are the moderators?" And got the forums all in an excitement. I wonder if we did the math how many of your 200+ posts by percentage have been contrary to the spirit of these forums?

Dear Krispy,

Do not lose heart. God has ways of keeping us all humble.

Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

Your thread got locked? Praise Jesus, it is all in His hands.

Please do not think for one second that I delight in this happening to you. I only want to see good things happening in your life. Just pointing out something that may help you feel the balance necessary to not get upset.

You post about a marvelous spiritual happening in your life and then thread gets locked, consider this:

[b][color=0000FF]1 Peter 4:12: Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.[/color][/b]

Smile about it, God loves you.

white stone

HeartSong wrote:
You are in basic training. Just start another one. No one gets anywhere by murmuring and complaining.

:-)

RebeccaF wrote:
You really need to pm the moderator Crrsschk, about that via pm. not here on the forum.

Krispy was just making a general statement about one of the threads he started and BAM, here comes Job's comforters!!

:-)

I'm with you bro. I have a similar story about a change in my heart that I want to share with the body here, but I am waiting until I can convey it properly. Didn't want to steal/hijack your thread or I would have posted it there.

Good work moderators. All of you. Thank you for all you do. It does not go unnoticed or unappreciated. Blessings my friends.

Dear Krispy,

Are you really so disheartened over this? Last I checked that thread had 2277 views. Do you know why? I know that what drew me there was to read of what the Lord had done in your life. Let's rejoice over the changes He has wrought in you! Eventually, all threads must die or be locked...but Christ forever lives in you! Rejoice! And again I say, rejoice!

Hi Krispy...

Only on SI...

As far as the locking of that thread: I am glad it was locked. We never know who ventures into our "virtual" congregation. They will know that we are His disciples by our love for one another. I wonder: What do public displays of disgust show this lost and dying world? What happens when a hurting person seeking truth happens upon our words? Do they show life? Or do they show the world that we can't even get along with people who name the Name of Jesus? We crucify one another (including our elders, err, moderators) simply because they reprove us or have a different opinion or persuasion.

His banner over us should be love...even in disagreement. Sadly, the Body of Christ often provides atheists with plenty of reasons not to believe.

I, for one, am so grateful to Greg, Mike and Paul. They do a fantastic job in these forums! I have matured quite a bit in my years here...and I believe that our moderators have played a role in some of that growth.

Anyway, I am glad that someone locked the thread. We know what you wrote...we rejoice with you and your testimony of a personal revival/awakening...we pray that this continues its work (in all of us)...and we can each move on. May our focus be on knowing Him.

:-)

KrispyKrittr wrote:
Rebecca, your "apology" is the absolute height of hypocrisy. I dont think I've ever heard anything quite like that before.

I'm really praying for you....

KK,

I was going to Rebecca about this, but seeing as you have addressed this publicly, I hope that she has that strength to be able to endure being used as an example, that could benefit the community at large.

RebeccaC wrote:

I am going to apologize for [u]the only fault that I find as far as myself is concerned[/u].
(emphasis added)

This comment reminds me of something that was pointed out to me, by a couples counselor, when my marriage first became "rocky". My wife was going through a heap of emotional issues, diagnosed as suffering depression. I was presenting a bit of "I did this.. but she did that", kind of thing, as I was acknowledging my shortcomings. The counselor responded, "Do you think that what you did was wrong, because all I am hearing is that you had an excuse, and it was her fault."

It was what some would call a "brief moment of clarity", where I realised that any expression of repentance, whether to God, or to others, which fails to take [u]full responsibility[/u] for our conduct, is in fact false repentance, because it is void of humility. Now, having said that, I know that when I did it, it was a defense mechanism, and I could trace all the reasons why I did it, and it could be said that I had know choice in my behaviour, but the fact is, none of that mattered, when it came to [u][b]my[/b] acknowledgement of [b]my[/b] wrong[/u]. The only way that I could deal with this, was to "confess my faults one to another" so that they could "pray one for me, that I may be healed". Talk about suffering the bitter string that humility inflicts.

Sister, I hope you can sense the compassion in our words. I find it ironic that you have advised that Krispy PM Mike about his moderation decision, but then you have aired your own grievances, publicly. Again, I hope you don't see this so much as a "rebuke", but as a "loving observation". When our counsellor pointed this out to me, it arrested me. I was torn between being incensed, because of my feeling of being wronged, and desiring to let go of my offence. Thankfully, the latter won out, and I was the better for it.

Let this be a lesson for us all.

For the record I want to say that Mike Balog and the other moderators, in my estimation, have done a fine job over the last 5+ years. They have a very difficult job. They give enormous amounts of time to this ministry.

Moderators have the oversight of these forums. We should respect their authority. They are not at our beckon call or instruments designed to enforce our wishes. In their judgment if something is out of line they will address it. If an individual begins to cause strife and division they typically are dealt with privately and banned if it cannot be resolved.

These forums are a source of edification and discussion. Sometimes it is difficult to understand what the other person is saying. Patience is in order. Always give the benefit of the doubt. If we explain ourselves when asked, then that will typically clear the air. But the moderators and others are not mind readers. We do not all share the same concern either. What may alarm one may not alarm another.

Rebecca & Mike

Since I have been reading the past few days in John 13 – 15, the thoughts expressed in it are fresh on my mind. Jesus knows His time is at hand. In light of that fact, He is overcome with love for His disciples. It is in this setting that out of that compelling love, He washes their feet.

By the time He gets to 15, in the spirit of this love and knowing He is not going to be around much longer, it is here that He advises them to, ‘Love each other as I have loved you’. Later He says, ‘This is my command: Love each other’ and again, ‘If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world’.

As Christians, we hang between two worlds. We are no longer loved by the world and then sadly at times we are not loved by our fellow Christians. Rebecca, you were misunderstood. It does not give you the right to not love. It does not give you the right to lash out the way you did. Mike, you got irritated. It does not give you the right to not love. It does not give you the right to react the way you did.

If we cannot love one another, who will love us? I think it would go a long way to see each of you apologize in all sincerity and with no excuses or attached strings. Satan got his foot in the door with both of you. We are all better than that. Those who are watching, deserve to see it.

Mike Jones

Mike, you got irritated. It does not give you the right to not love. It does not give you the right to react the way you did.

I did indeed.

Am not very fond of all the conjecture and attraction of this and find myself in this peculiar pickle that would rather just stay silent.

The last thing is a defense but if I must set the record straight ...

This is not at all forthcoming, the icon is descriptive enough and it is a clever dodge to attribute it all to being confused. Nevertheless giving the benefit of the doubt the apology was offered.

Due to this legalistic mindset that has shown it's colors here on many an occasion I was not at all surprised when the next matter of order was some vague leading question intended to put me on the spot as was noted prior when things were thrown into an uproar in same like manner not many weeks prior.

The 'love' factor ... Likely to be misconstrued but if anything that has challenged me to the core it has been to attempt to mitigate these forums over the years. It still to this day pains me to be confrontational, it's not in my DNA and it is even more difficult to even speak of my self ... at all, in this manner. The great 'peacekeeper' in the family, it is my bent but I see far more the failures, my wretchedness ... any of this attention just gives me the willies. To put myself into a place of having to challenge the disruptive, to ... 'rebuke', that difficult word that is easily portrayed as and often full of it's own pride ...

What's love got to do with it? Everything. If I leaned on my bent towards alleviating and avoiding it then I should not be here at all. It costs something to do this, to do these things. Even now I find myself purposefully being general, unwilling to come out with it in a personal fashion.

The issue is larger than this recent commotion. Krispy hit on it in his last mention, it will either come to the surface and be resolved or ...

This forum is not a place for being contentious and that is the matter before us. It is painful but necessary, the following;

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=25939&forum=34&post_id=212207&refresh=Go]The Wise Woman and the Foolish Woman[/url]

crsschk wrote:

The issue is larger than this recent commotion. Krispy hit on it in his last mention, it will either come to the surface and be resolved or ...

Mike,

I have read your post several times and the one you provided a link to. Believe me when I say that I am aware of the truth expressed in Krispy's statement.

As far as 'purposefully being general', I think both of us have decided it the wiser of the two possible paths. The challenge in it though, is to somehow still be specific.

It is tempting to pick a side, but in doing that, someone wins and someone loses. I had truly hoped that [b]both[/b] could see their their own fault. If that could happen I believe it is all any of us could ever hope for.

I hold to that hope.

Hi Krispy,

I too was encouraged to read about the work that God did in your heart recently. One of the things you wrote about, that spoke the most to me, was about how God enabled you to forgive those people who had said unkind and untrue things about you as a football coach, behind your back.

Forgiveness is really the crux of Christianity isn't it ? You could say that it is embodied in the "take up your cross daily" and in the "we love him because he first loved us". What I have found in my own life, is that I can desire to forgive those who have wronged me and can pray for this forgiveness earnestly. But when God does a deep work in this area, he can accomplish this deep work of enabling me to forgive, in an instant - as I'm sure you can testify to.

What you wrote about forgiveness, reminds me of something God did in my heart last year. Last year, I found myself in a place of needing to forgive my neighbour. See his dogs were barking, and doing it a lot- and it was getting on my nerves. They barked during the day when I was trying to work ( I work out of a home office) and they barked during the night when I was trying to sleep (at least they were consistent
:-) )

Anyways, I tried to rectify this problem by talking things through with my neighbour, and at first, he was really cooperative and managed to keep his dogs a lot more quiet. But then for some reason they began barking more vigorously than ever, and you could say I began barking to my wife-complaining about my neighbour.

But then God grabbed me by the collar (so to speak) and spoke to me about my attitude. He did this through an article I read that was by Leonard Ravenhill.

Here's the part that got to me :

"Have the Holiness people set a guard at the door of the beauty parlors lest any sister should enter to get her hair curled, while a block away there is a string of prostitutes trying to sell their sin-wracked bodies with none to tell them of eternal love?"

When I read this, I wept. The Holy Spirit convicted me of hating my neighbour because of not keeping his dogs under control, and all the while I cared little for something that was of much greater importance- his eternal soul. After God dealt with me, every time I would hear the dogs bark, God would use this as a reminder to pray for my neighbour. I was amazed to see a few things. First, the dogs stopped barking a short time after I started praying. Secondly, and more importantly, God took the bitterness for my neighbour out of my heart. This winter, I have been finding that both of us have been shovelling each others walks at times. I have invited him to come to my church, and am praying that he comes out sometime soon. I give God praise for what He's done in our relationship.

Well, I wanted to share this because it was similar to what you have gone through. I hope that it will encourage you that the work that God has done in your heart has been a blessing to me and others. "God's mercies endure forever".

In Jesus,
John

RebeccaF wrote:
If you look at all the talk they were having about Lynard Skynard, unless you are a Lynard Skynard fan you would be confused too.

This totally lost me, but I am easy to lose,:-?
but we are "ALL" God's children, more than likely " I am not sure" these folks probably need our Prayers more than most. I am a fan of everyone, that means every single one of God's children, that's not to say that I condone what some are doing or hang around with them, but according to the Bible I am reading,I am supposed to Love all of them, unless I missed something here. :-)

Krispy is my hero, when I grow up I want to be just like him, go Kevin Harvick! Dale is smiling down on you, it's going to be a good year...

Don't get your hopes up just yet. On the other hand, enjoy it while you can.

RebeccaF wrote:

What Crrsschk, did was disgraceful saying things to me like "spit it out" etc... and I felt it needed to be addressed at the time publicly but maybe that was not a good thing, still not sure yet.

Rebecca, what happened here is that Mike had no clue what you meant because he is a male who cannot take a hint. The only males who can take hints are in novels written by women! Seriously, males do not have the capability to take a hint. Mine can't and I have been married to him for 41 years. Women are good in giving hints and being understood by other women. Not so with males! You have be up front and blunt. Now this is not bad - it is just the way God made us and it is in our best interest to acknowledge it and work this way.

Does this make sense?

ginnyrose

Krispy,

I am glad you shared what God is doing in your life. And I hope you will allow God to continue this process in our life and not be distracted. All saints are in the process of being changed from glory to glory.

You well know that you and I disagree sharply on music, but I also know that should not keep one from appreciating what God is doing in the other person's life.

Keep the faith, brother and be sure to take good care of those little boys (or those miniature Kritters)!

Blessings,
ginnyrose

ginneyrose,

That'll preach.

edit: you posted too fast. To clarify, I mean the one about guys not being able to take a hint.

That'll preach

Is that good or bad? I did not mean to be offensive...it just is that most females are ignorant how males think - takes a lifelong to learn all this...and some of us have learned a few things along the way because we are older.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

ginnyrose wrote:
I did not mean to be offensive...it just is that most females are ignorant how males think - takes a lifelong to learn all this
Blessings,
ginnyrose

Ginny, this can go both ways trust me, 35 years later I "sometimes" still can't seem to understand how my wife thinks.