Gut Feelings

Yes, and it will not be nice either.

What do you guys think is coming?

And, how do we brace ourselves/prepare for what's coming?

Our first goal is to prepare to meet our maker. The second is to plant as large a garden as we can. The third is to get a hand pump installed on our well (in preparation for power outage).

All three goals will enable us to better serve our Lord (Feed my sheep).

Looking at the financial situation we see deep depression - worldwide poverty. Worse yet is the Spiritual poverty.

Pray for wisdom,
white stone
(praying for all on SI)

Be at peace and just be faithful where GOD has placed you. Encourage the brethren and plant Gospel seeds everywhere you can. It's all good.

Yes my brother. A great storm is coming. We are told to prepare and wait for our Master, and He will come again.

Many have been sensing this for a while. A sense of urgency to spread the Truth amongst the lost is as high as it has ever been before in my life.

Along with this sense of urgency is a great sense of peace. I know who my Master is. I know whom I worship. I know that He is a good and faithful Lord and that He loves me.

Prepare your children and teach them His ways.

I've been reading some church history that gives record to the end of the 1st century and early on in the second century. It is interesting information as it depicts the urgency of the Lord's coming in the preaching and proclamation of the Gospel in the NT and the prevalence of being ready as necessity. The comparison can be made that this is of utmost importance for us to return to in this day and age. I wonder, if we were to actually study this further; and from what I'm reading, the stagnation and the lukewarm nature of the church is not just an Americanized thing, it's a literal problem of the church since the end of the canonized scriptures. Pretty interesting. Even reading beyond that you see the same behavior in non-canonical books that show the easing off behavior of Christians and how it affected the preaching of the word.

While we should always be ready, such as scripture speaks, I wonder if the dismissal of lukewarm believers as converts is really such a drastic call we should make. Its easily seen even in the sub-apostolic and even apostolic periods...

Just food for thought concerning the notion of something big happening....as the church ever acted if she were ready?

Krispy, I think you’re feeling what a lot of us are experiencing. For me, it’s a sense of impending doom, yet there is a peace at the same time. Our country is changing drastically and rapidly – it is staggering! My flesh wants to panic, yet I know God is in control and that He will remain faithful.

Whatever happens, I believe it will separate authentic believers from the false ones who will fall away when things get tough. Real persecution is coming and only genuine believers will remain true.

Lorijean

“Fear is of the flesh, panic is of the devil.” A.W. Tozer

KrispyKrittr wrote:
Anyone other than me just have a gut feeling that the world is on the verge of something huge...?

Krispy

Mr. Bill feels that way, but the SS would probably show up at my door if I were to tell you what it was. :-o

Krispy and all,

I don't believe I'm living in lala land (some may say so), but I do not feel any sense of dread. Ok, well, I do when I watch the news which is why I quit watching Glenn Beck. As good as he is, I could feel panic rising within me when I watched him.

Now, I am not saying do not get out of debt and/ or don't grow a garden. Hey, we should do all we know to do.

I love history but there is not any other time I would rather be living... call me crazy but I'm getting excited! :-D

Matt 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Matt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Matt 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect

In other words, four times in 21 verses, Jesus specifically warns us against deception in this period of the close of the age.

So, Jesus warns us four times against deception. Anybody who shrugs off that warning or treats it lightly does so at the risk of his own soul. The greatest single danger in this end time is not sickness, nor poverty, nor persecution nor a finicial collapse. It is deception.

i have a minor burden on my (st pauls, the decepted church) and a few people i know well-ish and i have been feeling the urge to evangelize or something before i even became a true saved christian.

also as for the gardens and stuff i wouldn't so much worry about it a whole lot (you need to remember i am 17 though and i dont even know about politics or the economy so.... yeah...)

and yes even sense i started learning about the end times there has been an increasing burden.

but above most of it all i am quite content. i cry every once in a while becuase i get scared for people i know who might not see heaven but yeah...

it saddens me because i know where alot of people are going but on the other side of the coin i am happy that God finaly got to me. but it also helped that i have been looking for him for some time now.

[b][size=x-large]Fear Not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee[/size][/b]

Dear Brother Colin,

You have a winner with this post! I feel I should copy it to my card file and carry it around with me. With times as they are it would be more valuable than gold to have those verses engraved upon your heart.

Thank you for posting,
white stone

Am I missing somthing? I haven't had that feeling either, maybe I haven't been paying attention or have missed the significance of things. I am concerned however, about the rapid decline of the authority of the bible...

I also have a sense that black clouds are rolling in and the wind is beginning to howl.

Reading the headlines, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that God is punishing America by depriving our leaders of their wits; that he has judged us for our godlessness by afflicting our wisemen with confusion and madness. That may sound like political satire, or sarcasm, but it's not. How else do we explain a man of Barack Obama's intelligence thinking that he can make the country richer by printing more money? Or Bush's lunatic adventure in Iraq? Or the bailout package in which government borrowed $700 billion from the banking sector in order to lend $700 billion to the banking sector? Or giving Israel $4 billion a year in military aid and then pledging $1 billion for Palestinian reconstruction, so we can rebuild facilities that Israelis destroy with bombs that we provide? What kind of lunatics finance both sides of a war and then call for "peace talks?"

Collective insanity on this order of magnitude cannot be explained in terms of run-of-the-mill government corruption and incompetence. There is something very strange happening in Washington DC. It's as if the Gadarene legion that drove the Bush administration to madness has entered the new administration and is driving them in the same direction.

The destruction of American hegemony was probably necessary for the establishment of a world government under the Beast, and so might be taken as yet another sign of the times. And like Lysa, I am not despondent, but excited.

"And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Who are the only people in the world who have a true reason to rejoice in the midst of suffering, true strength in persecution, true wisdom amongst worldly 'enlightenment', true convictions of the Spirit rather than right to opinion, a living hope in a world of false ones, a sure inheritance rather than 'whatever you can get yourself', something worth living (and indeed dying) for rather than mere existence?

Who went out before the army of the Lord in OT times? Worshippers!

If we are burdened, let it by for the Lord. But do not give up hope - God IS working His purposes out!

colin, jlosinski, menderofnets, and wayneman - woo hoooo - amen!!
I didn't mean to leave anyone else out!
__________________

We can know what is going on around us without being all down in the mouth about it. Christ is truly on the horizon. What the Lord has been showing me and trying to get through my thick skull is, [b]if we don't own anything - there will be no fear of losing it[/b] (and it is the same with our bodies).

Therefore don’t be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord,
nor of me His prisoner,
[i][size=medium]but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God, who has saved us and called us with a holy calling,[/size][/i]
not according to our works,
but according to His own purpose and grace
which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,
2 Timothy 1:8

What an invitation!!

[size=medium]For this reason I also suffer these things,
but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed
and I am convinced that He is able to guard
what I have entrusted to Him until that day.[/size]
2 Timothy 1:12

Let the word of God be true and every man a liar!! Amen?

Hello, Jesus-is-GOD. I don't understand what you are referring to, and I can maybe learn something. Could you explain what you mean?

the sudden quantum leap to 'christ-consciousness' nonsense

Thanks!

[b]by menderofnets on [i]2009/2/26 23:28:45[/i][/b]

Who are the only people in the world who have a true reason to rejoice in the midst of suffering, true strength in persecution, true wisdom amongst worldly 'enlightenment', true convictions of the Spirit rather than right to opinion, a living hope in a world of false ones, a sure inheritance rather than 'whatever you can get yourself', something worth living (and indeed dying) for rather than mere existence?

Who went out before the army of the Lord in OT times? Worshippers!

If we are burdened, let it by for the Lord. But do not give up hope - God IS working His purposes out!

let me say that in my own words;

Worship GOD and spread HIS word and show people who HE REALY IS not the fake "god" that people have humanized. and be good. realy really good. like spotless... yeah (i am a hypocryte with that statement i am really sorry, i need to change and now... i just keep falling/failing) but yes, dont be like me, be like JESUS in a sense that is of the Church, be good and steadfast to the LORD. [b][u]NOT[/u][/b] the new age "be like jesus!"

Krispy, when you say on the verge of something huge are you suggesting a 9/11 type attack or something? God forbid.

There are a number of things currently interacting on the world stage which are probably affecting your thoughts

1. The financial crisis and current recession.
2. Israeli situation
3. Iran
4. Current wars in Afghanistan and Iraq

These are the current world events which are well known and well reported on (it ignores many others e.g. Darfur, Zimbabwe, etc). I don't envy President Obama or Gordon Brown having to deal with these dilemmas. I don't believe the world has ever seen a financial crisis like the current one.

My personal belief is that God's judgment is upon the world and He is about to restore His dealings with the Jews directly. This crisis is only really in its infancy because we are still living off the boom years. Wealth will soon retreat from the masses however leading to social unrest and perhaps war. It is noteworthy that the Great Depression created the cicumstances which enabled Hitler to rise to power. Is the current predicament a birthing of conditions which will give rise to the Antichrist?

Israel and Iran are at loggerheads and US forces are bogged down in unwinnable wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, the objectives of these two wars are incomprehensible.

My personal gut feeling is that we are at the beginning of something huge, but that there's a little way to go. I believe in the rapture of the saints because we've been judged at Calvary and it doesn't make sense to judge us again. We may face a time of persecution though.

Again, this is just gut feeling (in line with the thread title) and I'm not in any way attempting to provoke debate.

All I would say is we live in a time when we must stay close to the Lord. Spending time in prayer and Bible study. So often, I am guilty of watching 24 hour news channels which is possibly why I get these notions.

We must be sure we [b]know[/b] Christ though.

God bless

David

I too have been having similar thoughts. I was wondering if it was just becuase of me and my circumstances, but I see it is not.
What are we to do?
In my own life I have begun to realize that I need to walk more and more closely with the Lord.
How easy it is to say God is in control?
Yet in these times I need to be among the few who can show the world that God is in control. Not by words but by their life. By remaining in peace and filled with joy continually. Else what is my testimony before this world?
I say God is my only hope and yet am anxious of even small things.
I need to be among those who have known the Father, who have seen what Christ has done and who are continually filled with the Spirit.
Not just theory in head, but in practical christian living as Jesus walked.

Dan 11:32 .... But the people who know their God will be strong and will work.

To all who are genuinely interested of what is needed, I want to share a link - [url=http://www.cfcindia.com/web/mainpages/articles.php?display=article25]God Needs Men[/url]

I agree. However, what is scaring me is something else. I try hard to keep from reading about politics too much because it upsets me dreadfully. Common sense is rare among politicians...

What I have been seeing happening among my acquaintances is the exposure of sin in the lives of people close to me. These are people I thought were in tune with God. Oh sure, I knew there were problems, but not of the magnitude that has been exposed in recent times. It is as though God is working hard to expose these people for a number of reasons: these people are not right with the LORD; do not trust these folks; and these people need help and repentance. Now how am I to respond to these folks?

I know many here on SI have lamented the apostasy in their churches and are grieved about it, but what I am talking about is something that is occurring among people you thought were right with the LORD! This is frightening...

Yes, Krispy, what is going on in the political realm is very different from anything I have ever seen in my 61 years...methinks we are about to see some radical changes...better get your cave ready for your family and store up a lot of necessities. And above all intensify your efforts to teach your children the way of the LORD so they will be able to cope...you may also want to teach them how Christians in the past responded to persecution.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

better get your cave ready for your family and store up a lot of necessities.

What if I can't afford a cave? ;-)

Is this the same Ginnyrose that walked dangerous streets to minister to young unwed mothers? I hardly think you'll be hiding in a cave sister. When trouble comes, you'll be the first to think about others before worrying about your own safety.

MC

Is this the same Ginnyrose that walked dangerous streets to minister to young unwed mothers? I hardly think you'll be hiding in a cave sister. When trouble comes, you'll be the first to think about others before worrying about your own safety.

LOL!

Seriously, I do not worry so much for my own safety, but I do for the children!

Actually, I did not 'walk' the streets, just worked in an office. But yes, I heard all kinds of stories known to man and imagination so this experience served to harden me a bit...always thought that once I no longer get angry with sin, I am done for. Fortunately, it never happened: every story of sin, abuse still upsets me but I do not allow it to get out of control. This was the grace of God protecting, enabling me - I am powerless to operate like this in my own strength.

Many years ago when Khrushchev was the ruler of the USSR, he declared they will bury us - the USA and take over the USA by 1973. They tried via the anti-war movement and the civil rights movement which resulted in riots in the large cities. Buildings were burned, there were sit-ins in colleges, workers struck - picketed their places of employment, etc. Tension was high! It was a civil war! But God kept it from happening...wonder how much rope he will now allow the ones who work to destroy the USA today?

Back then I was a young mother having children and I was afraid! I intensified my teaching of my little ones, taught them to memorize scripture at a very young age. Unfortunately, when 1973 rolled around and it did not look as though the Commies were going to take over after all, I relaxed...should never have done that. The enemy was still there, he just changed his tactics!

Are we aware of this?

ginnyrose

Hi Ginnyrose. :) I worry over my children too. Parents are a sorry lot in this world! LOL

Unfortunately, when 1973 rolled around...

I am just old enough myself to have seen dates and predictions come and go. The thing we worry about rarely happens. It's usually the thing we didn't see coming that gets us. I suppose the unpredictable convulsions and potentially transformative winds blowing through the entire world is in a good reason to give way to feelings in our guts and make pronouncements about the different images in our minds that disturb us, but this scripture comes to mind:

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."Some translations render "sound mind" into "discipline".

Let me share an observation that I think we should be mindful of and apply discipline to. We are too sophisticated. By that I mean that more people today have access to information, analysis, technology and material resources then ever before in the history of civilization. Quite simply, this advantage makes us spiritually weaker then our ancestors who had more room in their primitive heads for the Word of God.

Perhaps some here know of the phenomena where a person who has lost one of their senses, such as sight or hearing, experiences an increase in sensitivity from their other senses to compensate.

Well I believe our over-abundance of so called analysis, the veritable fire hose of expert opinion we can swallow every day, weakens our ability to hear the full counsel and comfort of God for these times. I have been observing a correlation between prophetic unctions and the news trends. It may very well be that sincere but undisciplined Christians are unable to tell the difference between God and the news.

If we think God is speaking to us through a 24 hours news channel, we can offer little leadership to the church, because each trial only causes our undisciplined minds to worry about the next trial. It becomes very hard to "not worry about tomorrow" when that's the main thesis of the media...and the human heart.

I'm not trying to sound "unafraid" of the events of our days, or to discourage one another from sharing our fears and burdens. I'm simply saying that we must protect ourselves from our own sophisticated answers to these burdens. If we tell the rich man that he cannot trust in his riches, then how can we rightfully tell the poor man to trust in his vegetable gardens and caves?

We who are in Christ need to shelter one another in Christ, and in that context we may get out of debt or plant our gardens. Yet those who are strong in Christ, should be careful of unwittingly boasting in their plans or resources, which only weakens those who are already weak in Christ. Save money and plant gardens, but we do a better service towards those who are weak in Christ to only hope in Christ and not confuse the issue with our own resources. This is for everyones sake because the poor man's vegetables can rot just as fast the rich man's money.

Blessings brethren,

Mike

Hello, all,

We are facing uncertain times, and our faith will surely be tested, if it hasn't been already. Let us be encouraged that God is working out His plan, and He has given us a glimpse of what is coming, and He has let us read the last chapter of the book!

And through these exchanges on SI, and with other believers along the way, and always by the power of His word, we should find solace and encouragement.

Christ is our ultimate example: "For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you may not grow weary and lose heart." Heb12:3

Wayneman said: "There is something very strange happening in Washington DC. It's as if the Gadarene legion that drove the Bush administration to madness has entered the new administration and is driving them in the same direction."

Yes, Wayneman, by all appearances, Washington, D.C., is possessed!! It has become a city of grave darkness. It appears that the restrainer has been taken out of the way. Yet, I know there is still a flicker of light remaining. We must not cease to pray for our nation. 2Chron7:13-14

It is the same lust and boastful pride that led to the first transgression that continues to drive this corrupt world and its leaders, and the end therein is destruction. The prince of the power of the air is running the show through the agency of sinful man and this world system, but not without God's authorization, and only for a season as this age draws to a close.

Christians must come out of the shadows: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden...Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." Matt5:14,16

Let us take heart: "And the world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God abides forever." 1John2:17

Finally: "What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?...For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus or Lord." Rom8:31,38-39

Praise Jesus! The victory is His. Let us proclaim His name and His gospel among the nations.

R2W

Hello, Jesus-is-GOD. I don't understand what you are referring to, and I can maybe learn something. Could you explain what you mean?

Quote:

the sudden quantum leap to 'christ-consciousness' nonsense

Thanks

hmm. we here i'm sure are very glad that you asked that. Basicly let me strait up tell you this is a lie from satan.

first before you continue i am going to give you a crash course in End Times. Ever sense Jesus left earth to go to heavan to wait for his [url=http://contenderministries.org/prophecy/endtimes.php]Time to return (End Times)[/url] we have been in the end times. But he warned us of [url=http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/falsechrists.php]false christS[/url], plural, christ[u]s[/u]. ok. many of us here belive we are at the closing stages of the End times.

matthew recorded a conversatin that Jesus had with either a few or all of the 12 deciples. here is proof, now this is Jesus speaking, that many will come. [url=http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/falsechrists.php]Matthew [u]24[/u][/url]
[i]4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.[/i] and in matt 24 later on; [i]24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

26"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man [/i]*Jesus*. [i]28Wherever there is a carcass [/i]*persion who is easily decived*, [i]there the vultures [/i]*false people* [i]will gather. [/i]
Now just a side note, reading the whole chapter in context reviles that he is talking about the end of the 7 year tribulation (link needed). but it does not limit the false christ to appear only in just that time. with proof there have been a few people claiming to be Jesus and God in the past. *another link needed*

[b]moving on![/b]

"christ consience" is a [url=http://www.contenderministries.org/articles/UN_aaclucis.php]New Age[/url] was of thinking, where (satan) has fed people with lies thinking that with time and the process of evolution, that we, as a whole, will be able to think like christ and be able to (i dont know thier exact words) perform advanced things, i.e. "the biblical term, mericals," as they claim.

they conclude that sense we will be able to be like Christ, we will in essence be so much like christ we will basicly be able to call ourself christ. Thier deffenition of "christ" is that of someone well evolved. BUT, what they dont konw is that CHRIST is acually another similey of MESSIAH, JESSUS OF NAZERETH THE MESSIAH. if you need proof that Jesus Christ of the New TESTEMENT IS MESSIAH look [url=http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/jesusmessiah.php]here[/url]
now putting the puzzle pieces together;

1. Jesus said "look out that you will not be decieved.... many will come in my name"
2. new age says that anyone can be like christ. essentially saying that we are all equally christ.
3. new age is teaching us to be false christ...

i hope that helps.
in love with THE ONE TRUE REAL CHRIST...
---allan

I think we all feel America is entering into a bad season.
However, God once told me "exploit the bad".
I really believe we as God's people are about to enter the greatest time in all history.
An unbelievable awakening such as never before.
Unprecedented revival will be the result of the great "shift" that is happening now. We are in the birth pangs of a tremendous time of trial among all nations.
NOT THE GREAT TRIBULATION, but we are actually seeing the birth pangs.
Thee soon to come Great Awakening (revival)will stir up the devil,also in unprecedented fury.
He will have limited success in his efforts.
God is bigger and always wins,so we always win.
Psalm 91
1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

left behind interperets it either this or during seasons of heavy numourus repenting during the 7 year trib and before, a great sour harvest. i think it comes from the part in scripture which i kinda cannot put my finger on it so if anyone else does that would just be amazing but it says (please note i am paraphrasing) "in those times i will pour out my spirit... and send my angels to reap the ritechus" or something along those lines. i am confident that i mixed multiple verses from different chaptors together so this is al based on very vauge memory but the idea is that at a certian point after what another verse says (which i am also fargetting the name and strongly paraphrasing) "i (God speaking) will send a famine, not of food or of riches, but of My Word" ect.

please note this is all from vauge memory and i there is a huge chance i am just so off that i would just need to delete this whole reply and just start over.

feel free to tell me either way. dont take anything i said here as fact, but as a mere vauge memory which i didn't study enough to even know where to look for it. an opinion nevertheless.

left behind interperets it

Please, tell me you are not getting your facts from a fictional piece.

Stay with the Word of God in His Holy Book, the Bible.

Please consider what I say, I have your interest at heart.

white stone

P.S. Better to write what you wish to post in a text file and review it before you post, rather than delete posts. Something like the carpenters rule, "Measure twice, cut once." Once it is cut, you can not uncut it. If you post something that is offensive or incorrect and someone reads it - you can not delete it from their mind. (Speaking from personal experience having done so myself before I learned better.)

Yeah I think things are so bad I need to relax and just go fishing, who's with me?

It's too cold! Wait a month or three. :-)

Father glorify Your Name

They came back
as if from a trance,
they had seen
their immediate future
their present realities
and both didn't measure up.
In logical speculation
and acute reasoning
in all practicality
to move on was suicide.
But yet one on one
they seemed to be so full of faith
so full of hope and courage
they nodded in unison
that God is in control
that God loves us
that we need have no worry
we who seek His kingdom
the righteousness that is from Him;
but let us be practical,
and they shelved God to their minds
while other things occupied their heart.

But there were a few
Who thought otherwise
Who had found a yardstick
Hidden in the scriptures,
All they had to do was
Measure their thoughts
Anxieties clothed as 'concerns'
With the heathen world around
And if they too are bothered by the same
Then hear the Master's voice say
"these things the heathen worry about."
These were those who had found the secret
Not in accurate doctrinal logic
But in practical reality
Of walking with God daily.
Yes they have found Him
of whom it was written
Emmanuel - God with us.

Yes these few
Are weak and frail
They want to but cannot
Weak and heavy laden
At the end of their striving
They come to their Lord and Saviour
In honest confession
They say, "all things are possible with You,
Help us Lord we pray
Teach us how to rejoice continually
Teach us to pray without ceasing
Teach us to live this life
As You have told us,
To be at rest as You were,
Teach us to walk
As You had walked."

And Lo behold I see
A salvation supernatural
Not in the grasp of men
A salvation impossible
Being wrought in me
That all who see are bound to ask
"Is this possible, to live like this."
"Yes, yes it is
This is the good news we preach,
We can live in utter abandonment
In the shadow of the Almighty,
For He who is in us
Is greater than who is in the world,
Nothing is allowed
unless my Father allows it,
My Father loves me
And all He allows is for my very best;
Shall I say no, shall I say take this away,
O' yes, every cell in me wants to say so!
But this salvation
Christ in me the hope of glory
This is the good news
The life He lived, He came to give
This is eternal life, His life
His life in me to live,
That with great rejoicing
By God working in me
both to will and to do
I too can say, as Jesus said
Nay, nay, Father glorify Your name."

dohzman wrote:
Yeah I think things are so bad I need to relax and just go fishing, who's with me?

I'm with you! I agree relax, it hard enough to just concern myself about the things I can see or hear now. I am sure not to concerned about the things I have no control over, seems like a waste of time to me, but were all different, most of the time only gut feelings I get, are usually hunger pains.

rreighe wrote:
left behind interperets it either this or during seasons of heavy numourus repenting during the 7 year trib and before, a great sour harvest....

feel free to tell me either way. dont take anything i said here as fact, but as a mere vauge memory which i didn't study enough to even know where to look for it. an opinion nevertheless.

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=157&min=280&orderby=titleA&show=20]Zac Poonen - Series on Revelation [/url] Page 15 & 16 of his sermons

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=528]David Pawson - Revelation Series[/url]

God bless,

Quote;
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where was the revival in rome?

where was the revival in babylon?

there was none. only death and destruction, why should we be any different"

Because Jesus said so

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Here is revival from persecution;

26The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

27For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

28For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

29And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

30By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

31And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

32And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul:

Here is more revival from persecution;

They are a church founded on the blood of the martyrs. In 1876, the Kabaka, King Mwanga, had 23 of his page-boys, both Anglican and Roman Catholic, roasted over a fire because of their loyalty to another King. The faithful commemorate this event each year at the martyrs' memorial. More recently, Christians died for their faith during the rule of Idi Amin. Ugandan Christians recall that their faith has been tested by fire and sometimes wonder why Christians in the West will not make more sacrifices for the Gospel.

The Church of Uganda is also the beneficiary of the East African revival, which began in 1936 and continued into the 1980's under Bishop Festo Kivengere. Thus, Ugandan Christians are very ready to "give an account of the faith that is in them." The continuing power of the revival is carried on in the villages by catechists, who are unpaid spreaders of the Gospel.

Some say the greatest thing that ever happened to the church of Uganda was Edie Amin

Isn't SI praying for revival???

i feel it too krispy.

let us all pray for this world, for each other, and most of all that God is glorified.

love to you all.

Hopefully we will follow the example of the early apostles and embrace the full horn of the anointing with signs and wonders;
Acts 8
1And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

2And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.

3As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

4Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

5Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

6And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.

7For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.

8And there was great joy in that city.

WOW an entire city gets SWEPT with joy as the Holy Spirit moves through the man of God.

Note the massive persecution propelling revival forward

it all started in 1947, with the creation of the permanent national security state.

-UN being created.
-Scientoligy being either created or pushed to the mainstream.
-this whole century 2000s and last 1900s people have been pushing away faith and worshipping anything else...
-people idolize people, famous movie stars ect...

i could go on but the point is made.

I will tell yall what i tell everyone else, We live on Earth about 70-80ish years, and no matter how bad it gets on Earth, 70 years is nothing compaired to forever with Jesus Christ if you are right with HIM. So no matter how bad it gets on earth, it will be just a memory one day for us all. a memory we can all one day look at and be like, "yuep, YOU (Jesus, God, Holy Spirt) helped me though it."