TRADITION

When we replace God's Word with our tradition, we are siding with the Usurper, who said, "Yea, hath God said...?" Gen 3:1.

The Jews added hundreds of rules and regulations to the keeping of the Sabbath. Jesus did not defer to their tradition. How did Jesus keep the Sabbath? By worshiping the Father and meeting human need.

How are we to worship? It is laid out in Psalm 150. We are to praise Him with the sound of the trumpet, with psaltery and harp, with the timbrel and dance, with stringed instruments and organs. We are to praise Him upon the loud cymbals, and the high sounding cymbals.

In Isaiah 53:4 in the Hebrew it reads, "Surely He hath born our sicknesses and pains." Just as Jesus bore our sin, He, also, bore our sickness and pain. Although, I come from an extended family of six (soon to be seven) doctors, five nurses, one veterinarian, and one chemical engineer, Jesus has been my Healer for forty years. I recommend the book, Christ,The Healer by F.F. Bosworth. Claim His promises.

In Revelation 9:21;18:23;21:8;22:15 the word, "sorcery," is "pharmakeia," "pharmakeus," "pharmakon," "pharmakos." (You may want to do a word search on "Google.") Jesus did not do many works in Nazareth, because of their unbelief. Mt 13:58. Unbelief comes out of an evil heart. Heb 3:12. God is looking for faith in Him and in His Word. "So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God." Rom 10:17.

The New Testament Church was Pentecostal. The pattern for church worship was laid out in 1 Corinthians 12, by the Apostle to the Gentiles - the Apostle Paul: the Word of wisdom, the Word of knowledge, faith, gifts of heaing, working of miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, divers kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. The New Testament Church was interactive.

Where in the Scripture are there female pastors? "If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilante, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre, but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride, he fall into the condemnation of the Devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the Devil." 1 Tim 3:1-7. It is for a man to rule the church and to be in authority over God's people.

The abstaining from unclean meats was never taught to the Gentiles. Jesus, the clean became an offering for the unclean, so that we may be clean. It was a part of the Ceremonial law, which was nailed to the cross. Col 2:14. The Apostle Paul wrote, "I know and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that, there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean...For the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost." Rom 14:14,17.

Hellfire is not eternal. Jeremiah 17:27 says Jerusalem was to be destroyed with unquenchable fire. Jerusalem is no longer burning. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with everlasting, or, eternal fire. Jude 7. And that fire turned them "into ashes" as a warning to "those that should live ungodly." 2 Pe 2:6. These cities are not burning today.

The word "forever" is used 56 times in the Bible in connection with things that have, already, ended. In Jonah 2:6, "forever," means three days and nights. Jonah 1:17. In Deut 23:3, this means, "10 generations." In the case of man, this means, "as long as he lives," or, "until death." 1 Sam 1:22,28;Ex 21:6;Ps 48:14.

The Devil will be cast into the lake of fire, be turned into ashes and cease to exist. Rev 20:10;Ezek 28:18,19.

The word "hell" is translated from several different words with various meaning: 31 times from "sheol," which means, "the grave," 10 times from "Gehenna," which means, "the place of burning." This is a transliteration of the Hebrew "Ge-Hinnom," which means the "Valley of Hinnom." This valley southwest of Jerusalem was a garbage dump. Though at one time it smoldered, it no longer does today.

Mat 25:46 says the wicked will receive "everlasting punishment,"but not punishing which would be continuous. The punishment of the wicked is death, which is everlasting. The Wicked, the Beast, the False prophet, the Devil those that receive the mark of the Beast will be destroyed in the lake of fire. Rev 19:20;20:10. Death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire. Rev 20:14. And whosoever is not written in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire.Rev 20:15.

Jesus said, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not My Words, hath one that judgeth him: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY. For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me; He gave Me a commandment,what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: WHATSOEVER I SPEAK, THEREFORE, EVEN AS THE FATHER SAID UNTO ME, SO I SPEAK." John 12:48-50. We will be judged by the Word of God.

We should imitate the Bereans: "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the Word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Acts 17:11.

Our allegiance must be to the Word of God, alone.

And what are you referring to?

Do you not think that we are to keep the Ten Commandments? Including the fourth?

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14.

A sign of The Antichrist is "...he thinks to change times and laws." Dan 7:25. There is, only, one time in His Covenant - the Sabbath. This was done by the Roman Catholic Church.

Are you breaking the Sabbath by working? Are you in violation of the fourth commandment?

Dr.R.C. Sproul taught, that in Psalm 119,the word,"Word," was used interchangeably with, "law," "commandments," "judgments," "precepts," "statutes," "testimonies."

So, what is your problem. Are you breaking any of the Ten Commandments?

I represent the Word of God, alone.

Which Scripture do you disagree with?

So, I have given you Scriptures...which one do you disagree with?

Did you look them up????

You have not read the Scriptures...death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire.Rev 20:14.

Do you, really, believe, that a loving God would enjoy the torment of people forever???

I don't.

You, obviously, didn't read my entire post.

The word "forever is used 56 times in the Bible in connection with things that ahve, already, ended. In Jonah 2:6, "forever" means three days and nights. Jonah 1:17. In Deut 23:3, this means "10 generations." In the case of man, this means, "as long as he lives," or, "until death." 1 Sam 1:22,28; Ex 21:6; Ps 48:14.

This Paganism, first became a tradition of the Jews, and then went from there into Christianity.

Are you breaking the Sabbath by working? Are you in violation of the fourth commandment?

Are you breaking the 4th commandment by not working 6 days a week?

Do you, really, believe, that a loving God would enjoy the torment of people forever???

Who said God would enjoy this? It is important to keep in mind that what man sees as "fair" or "just" is not always what God says is "fair" and "just".

Apart from scripture, I would recommend reading The Sovreignty of God by A.W. Pink regarding this.

I was also a bit perplexed by your original post. It is titled "Tradition" by really made no point.

The fourth commandment is a commandment, and not a request.

James 2:10,11 tells us, that, if we break any of the Ten Commandments,we become transgressors of His law, and are guilty of breaking all of them.

Jesus said, "Not every one that SAITH, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that DOETH the will of My Father, which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (LAWLESSNESS) Mt 7:21-23.

"Ane hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith, I KNOW HIM and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR and the Truth is not in him: But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected." 1 John 2:3-5.

At the very end of the Book of all books, the Apostle John wrote, "Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14.

Covenants have conditions.

2 Tim 3:16 in the Greek reads, "Every Scripture is God breathed..."

There is no life in tradition, only, in His Word.

You, still, haven't been specific. Either support your claims,or stop claiming that I am a heretic.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

sscr01 wrote:The fourth commandment is a commandment, and not a request.James 2:10,11 tells us, that, if we break any of the Ten Commandments,we become transgressors of His law, and are guilty of breaking all of them.

And we all have, which is why we need a Savior. You don't need to preach the law to believers--we have already knelt before the Savior and pled, "Guilty as charged. God have mercy on me, a sinner." You might do some good if you preached on Infidel forums to bring sinners under conviction. That is the purpose of the law.Gal. 3:19-26

And James does not say, "The Ten Commandments," he says, "the WHOLE law." Have you been circumcised, sscr01? Do you abstain from pork? Do you sacrifice bulls and goats as a propitiation for sins? No? Then you are condemned under the law. Gal 3:10-12 And if you think you can please God by keeping that tiny portion of the law you have arbitrarily selected ("The Ten Commandments"), think again. Rom. 3:19-20

The law is not for believers. It's purpose is to bring sinners to repentance. "8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine." 1 Tim. 1:9-10

If you want to be a preacher of the law, that is the crowd you should be hanging with.

The Covenant of the Law never saved anyone. "8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. 13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful." Rom. 7:8-13

Thus the Holy Spirit uses the law to bring us right where He wants us to be: kneeling at the Cross, wholly dependent on the righteousness of Another. Once we are there, the law is finished with us. "24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster." Gal. 3:24-25

"4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." Rom. 7:4-6

We serve in newness of spirit by keeping the commandments of Jesus. And this can only be done by faith Phil. 2:13 Read James again in this light and maybe you will understand what he means by the "perfect law of liberty." Yes, faith without works is dead; but works without faith are dead works. You make no distinction between the walk of faith and legal self-effort. Instead of faith and obedience, you preach just obedience. I don't see Christ lifted up in your gospel, only the severity of the law.

A legalist sees Jesus only as Propitiation for sins, Rulemaker, Example to follow, and Object of devotion. But to those who have no confidence in our own righteousness, He is infinitely more than that. "19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Gal. 2:19-20

P.S. "Hell's Best Kept Secret" by Ray Comfort is an excellent tutorial on the correct use of the law. [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=5]https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=5[/url]

The law is not only ten commandments, there are 613 of them, and if you break any of them you have broken the law. And if you are a western i can promise you you break his law everyday in what clothes you wear and what food you eat.

but we are not under the law, since the old covenant was faulty, but praise God for the new and living way. Jesus Christ.

The law produces pharisees that put demands on others what and how they should live and they set a standard from their interpreting of their favorite verses and tell others.

Before we start trying keep the old testament laws, let us try keep the new testament laws, always praying, feeding the poor, clothe the naked, love the brethren, always rejoice, never say a hard word to anyone, never look with lust towards women/men , never long for riches or material improvement, be content with food and clothes as God provides.

now these are the important commandments.

You keep these you be alright, the ten commandments most good people keep, most devout Muslims keep 8 of the ten commandments.

most good everyday hard working upright people keep the first nine laws of the ten commandments.

But Jesus have already showed us how we can keep the whole law, all 613 in the old and all in the new, not sure how many there are, but i once went through the NT and found more then one hundred of commandments Jesus said we should do.

But i am sure there are many more, but Jesus said, and i want everyone to get this, it will help you so much if you do.

He said to him, "What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?" (Luk 10:26 NKJ)

(this is how Jesus understood the old testament including the ten commandments, and if you think you understand the bible better then Christ himself...well then...)

So he answered and said, "`You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and`your neighbor as yourself.'" (Luk 10:27 NKJ)

and we see if we continue reading that men want to justify themself before God by questioning what he says, its the pharisee in us, and in the following parable we see humble love in action, a example we should follow if we want to live.

Grace and Gods love in abundance.

edit:

ill clarify some more,

When Jesus ask what the law teaches, and we have in other gospels Jesus himself saying the same, the sum of the entire law of God is to love God and our next as ourself. this does not meen we should not keep his commandments, on the contrary, but many of the pharisees did keep the sabbath and did many more of the commandments, yet Jesus said they would go deeper into the pits of hell then other sinners would.

It is a heart issue, how is your heart? do you want to keep the sabbath? do as you feel lead and do it unto the Lord, but as soon as you set up a standard for others you cross a line. I think every day is a sabbath unto the Lord, in the OT we gave a tenth of our income, in the NT we give everything to him.

In the old you gave one of your sons to him, in the new we give all our children to him.

its my suspicion we so easily forget our own sin and our own need for Jesus. Its my experience that when we see others sins, or others "not keeping the sabbath or not doing this or that that I do" we have lost the light on ourselves.

and this makes us proud, hard and unreprovable and unteachable.

Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

(by faith, not by keeping the law)

2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 [b]For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has [u]forgotten[/u] that he was cleansed from his old sins.[/b] 10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2Pe 1:1 NKJ)

We need to keep in mind these things, so we dont stumble, and seeing the specks in other eyes, and having logs in our own eyes, you dont do this or you do this, let see to it we do what Jesus said we should do, discussing to keep a sabbath or not, what day ect is not edifying, it will not make you any holier if you keep a sabbath saturday or sunday or not at all. For me all days are Holy and everyday of my life is unto the Lord. Why give God only one day when i can give Him seven?

knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers (1Pe 1:18 NKJ)

let us see to it that God will work in us making us Holy, like Jesus Christ, he did good on the sabbath, he allowed the deciples pick grain (work) on the sabbath, he healed on the sabbath and so on, let us remember the major things and quit squabbling over the minor issues.

"making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do." (Mar 7:13 NKJ)

if keeping one day in the week as sabbath OT style make you more loving and humble do keep on keeping it, if it makes you more loving and gentle towards your wife and makes you more like Christ day by day and makes you hate sin more and more. Do keep a sabbath.

Let us remember the important things

As I have stated, in Psalm 119, the word, "Word," is used interchangably with, "law," "commandments," "judgments," "precepts," "statutes," testimonies."

HIS WORD IS HIS LAW.

"A NEW HEART also will I give you, and A NEW SPIRIT will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU to walk in My statutes, and ye shall keep My judgments and do them." Ezek 36:26,27.

When His Spirit is within us, we are empowered by His Spirit to keep His Word/His law.

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

And ye know that He was manifested TO TAKE AWAY OUR SINS; and in Him is no sin.

Whosoever abideth in Him (walks in His Spirit) sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, NEITHER KNOWN HIM.

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.

He that committeth sin is of the Devil; for the Devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose was the Son of God manifested, that He might destroy the works of the Devil.

Whosover is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the Devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 1 John 3.

(So, why does John say, that, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4?)

When Jesus gave us the "Two Greatest Commandments" He was quoting the law. Deut 6:5;Lev 19:18."

"By THIS we know that we love the children of God,when we love God and KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. For this is the love of God that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:2,3.

Jesus said, "If ye love Me, keep My commandments." John 14:15.

Jesus said, "He that hath My commandments and keepeth them, HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME: and he that loveth ME SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER, AND I WILL LOVE HIM, and will manifest Myself to him." John 14:21.

"And this is love that we walk after His commandments. 2 John 6.

His church keeps His commandments: "And the Dragon was wroth with the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17

HIs saints keep His commandments: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev 14:12.

Rom 16:29 refers to "the obedience of faith."

"By faith Abraham...obeyed." Heb 11:8.

"I am crucified with Christ..." Ga 2:20

"What shall we say then? Shall we CONTINUE IN SIN that grace may abound? God forbid. HOW SHALL WE THAT ARE DEAD TO SIN, LIVE ANY LONGER THEREIN?" Rom 6:1.

"As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions from us...To such as keep His Covenant and to those that remember His commandments to do them." Ps 103.

At the very end of the Book of all Books, the Apostle John wrote, "Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14.

Covenants have conditions.

If you want eternal life, keep His commandments.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

can you show me somewhere where Jesus emphesises keeping the sabbath ? where he gives it as a commandment?

he did give many commandments such like "sell everything you own"

pick up your cross

and ect, if we keep these laws we will live, the people of israel kept the law, the pharisees kept the law but still went to hell.

So it is possible to outwardly keep the commanments and still go to hell, still keep the sabbath but in your heart its not for the lord, its possible give a tenth of your income but do it grudgingly or unwillingly.

the new and living way is another way brother, but everyone who follows Christ does what he commanded, you should read matt 5 - 7

and emphesise where Christ says You have heard that it was said to those of old

....

but i say unto you.........

who is I?

Jesus or God in flesh....

so you see the old changed, if the old was perfect there would have been no need for Christ to come.

But I say unto you.... do what Christ said unto you and you will live, but if you live by the law you will die.

Jesus prophesied,that, the Sabbath would bekept during The Great Tribulation, and we are not there, yet. Mt 24:20.

"For as the NEW HEAVENS and the NEW EARTH which I will make, shall remain before Me, SAITH THE LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me SAITH THE LORD." Isa 66:22,23.

God's people will keep the Sabbath in His Kingdom.

The fourth commandment is a commandment and not a request.

When Moses disobeyed the Lord, God charged him with unbelief. Num 20:12. When the children of Israel disobeyed the Lord, they were not able to enter "The Promised Land," because of unbelief. Heb 3:19. Unbelief comes out of an evil heart. Heb 3:12.

Disobedience = Unbelief
Obedience = Faith

God spoke to Abraham: "And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.

BECAUSE that Abraham obeyed MY VOICE (HIS WORD), and kept MY CHARGE, MY COMMANDMENTS and MY LAWS." Gen 26:4,5.

Rom 16:29 refers to "the obedience of faith."

"By faith Abraham...obeyed." Heb 11:8. When he was ready to sacrifice his son, in response to the command of God.

"Even so faith, if it hath not works is dead, being alone.

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe and tremble.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

SEEST THOU HOW FAITH WROUGHT WITH HIS WORKS, AND BY WORKS WAS FAITH MADE PERFECT?

And the Scripture was fulfilled which saith ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD (faith & works) and it was imputed to him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

YE SEE THEN HOW THAT BY WORKS A MAN IS JUSTIFIED, AND NOT BY FAITH ONLY...For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2.

"Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Ga 3:7.

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Ga 3:29.

"But without faith, it is impossible to please Him..." Heb 11:6.

"For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world; and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith." 1 John 5:4,5.

"By faith Abel...By faith Enoch...By faith Noah...By faith Abraham...By faith Isaac...By faith Jacob...By faith Joseph...By faith Moses...Through faith Sara...By faith Rahab...By faith they passed through the Red Sea...By faith the walls of Jericho fell down...Who through faith subdued Kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions...quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of aliens. Women received their dead raised to life again: AND OTHERS WERE TORTURED, NOT ACCEPTING DELIVERANCE; THAT THEY MIGHT OBTAIN A BETTER RESURRECTION: and others had trials of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: they were stoned, sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (of whom the world was not worthy) they wandered in deserts, in mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. AND THESE ALL HAVING OBTAINED A GOOD REPORT THROUGH FAITH..." Heb 11.

My grandfather was in that number. He was a Dutch Reformed missionary to China. He was arrested by Mao Tse Tung, put on trial, with a gun held to his head. He was ordered to renounce his faith. Instead, he preached the Gospel to thousands of Chinese communists. They threw him in a dungeon. At last, he cried out to God, "Either take me home, or set me free." That day, "someone" came, opened the door. He thought he would be executed. Instead, he led him to the Hong Kong Harbor. He found his family, that, had fled from the Communists.

The Communists killed every foreigner, but skipped over my Grandfather's house. My father, a very cerebral Pathologist said, when they had fled into the wilderness, bandits rode up. They would slit your clothes and then kill you. Instead, they heard a bugle noise, out of the wilderness and fled. My father believed it was a miracle from God.

There is no true faith without obedience to God and His Word.

i believe in obedience brother, probably to a degree that would make many say i am en extremist.

But do you obey the commandments about eating in OT as well? do you obey those commandments about not mixing different fabrics in your cloths?

if not, i wonder what verses or commandments are higher? how do i know which ones are HIS WORD as you put it? and abraham did hear his voice, because moses dident live at the time so he couldent have written the five books of moses yet, so abraham did not read HIS WORD. He heard his voice. But i think i understand what you are saying.

But how do you separate the ten commandments from the other 603 commandments as less or more important? all where given by God.

so in a sense if you have mixed fabric in your clothes you are breaking the law, and james says if you break one law you are guilty of breaking them all.

And if you do does that mean you live in unbelif?

your reasoning have a big hole in it....

I keep all the commandments that are written in Scripture.

The Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy, ""I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE..." 2 Tim 1:3.

I serve Him with a pure conscience, and trust the Holy Spirit to reveal anything to me, that I need to repent of...that is what sanctification is all about.

I have done a post on the Ceremonial law, which was nailed to the cross. Col 2:14. It pointed to the sacrifice of Jesus and was fulfilled. Circumcision is now of the heart, washings are baptism, the Sabbath Feast Days were fulfilled:

Passover: Our Passover Lamb
Unleavened Bread: He was without sin.
Tabernacles: "He "tabernacled among us"

If the Ceremonial law had not been fulfilled, we would, still, sacrifice animals.

CEREMONIAL LAW:

1. Is called, "the law contained in ordinances." Eph 2:15
2. Was spoken by Moses. Lev 1:1-3
3. Was written by Moses in a book. 11 Chron 35:12
4. Was placed in the side of The Ark. Deut 31:24-26
5. Was nailed to the cross. Col 2:14
6. Was abolished by Christ. Eph 2:15.

THE TEN COMMANDMENT COVENANT:

1. Is called, the "royal law." Ja 2:8
2. Was spoken by God. Deut 4:12,13
3. Was written with the finger of God. Ex 31:18
4. Was placed inside The Ark. Ex 40:20;Heb 9:4
5. Is to "stand forever and ever." Ps 111:7,8
6. Was not destroyed by Christ. Mt 5:17,18

Even in heaven, the Lord makes quite a statement about His Covenant:

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple THE ARK OF HIS TESTAMENT: and there were LIGHTNINGS, and VOICES, and THUNDERINGS, and AN EARTHQUAKE, and GREAT HAIL." Rev 11:19.

There was, only, One Covenant in The Ark - The Ten Commandment Covenant.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

sscr01 wrote:
I keep all the commandments that are written in Scripture.

The Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy, ""I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE..." 2 Tim 1:3.

I serve Him with a pure conscience, and trust the Holy Spirit to reveal anything to me, that I need to repent of...that is what sanctification is all about.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

I am glad for you and hope that works out well for you.

May God bless you

When His Spirit is within us, we are empowered by His Spirit to obey His Word/His law.

"Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin ("transgress the law" 1 John 3:4) against Thee." Ps 119:11

Jesus quoted the Word in spiritual warfare with Satan: "It is written..." Mt 4:4,7,10.

"And take the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God." Eph 6:17

"For the Word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, PIERCING EVEN TO THE DIVIDING ASUNDER OF SOUL AND SPIRIT, AND OF THE JOINTS AND MARROW, AND IS A DISCERNER OF THE THOUGHTS AND INTENTS OF THE HEART." Heb 4:12.

Those who obey His Word are more blessed than Mary: "...a certain woman...said unto Him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee and the paps which thou hast sucked.

But He (Jesus) said, Yea, rather, blessed are they that hear the Word of God and keep it." Lu 11:27,28.

The disciples spoke the Word of God: "...ye received the Word of God, which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the Word of God..." 1 Thess 2:13.

"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God..."Rev 6:9

And most significant of all, Jesus is The Word of God. John 1;1 John 1:1;5:7.

"And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD." Rev 19:13.

When we obey His Word, we obey Him.

"But be ye doers of the Word, and not hearers, only, deceiving yourselves." Ja 1:22.

since the old covenant was faulty

i think this quote is faulty hmmhmm :-)

The fourth commandment is a commandment and not a request.

again, are you upholding this commandment by working 6 days a week?

fuehrerbe21 wrote:

since the old covenant was faulty

i think this quote is faulty hmmhmm :-)

yeah maybe i should have made it better :) but remember i only use english second in my brain, so sometimes i mess up a bit, bit i think its not to far from the truth

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

faultless
Thayer Definition:
1) blameless, deserving no censure, free from fault or defect

and looking at faulty :-) we see it is ok to use without loosing what God says

Faulty
FAULT'Y, a.

1. Containing faults, blemishes or defects; defective; imperfect; as a faulty composition or book; a faulty plan or design; a faulty picture.

2. Guilty of a fault or of faults; hence, blamable; worthy of censure.

The king doth speak this thing as one who is faulty.

1 Sam 14.

3. Wrong; erroneous; as a faulty polity.

4. Defective; imperfect; bad; as a faulty helmet.

I do not work on the Sabbath...I worship the Lord and meet human need, just as Jesus did.

If you do not obey the fourth commandment, you are a transgressor of the law.

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4.

Jesus said,Not every one that saith, Lord,Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (LAWLESSNESS) Mt 7:21-23.

"And hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith, I KNOW HIM and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR and the Truth is not in him: But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we do know that we are in Him." 1 John 2:3-5.

You, don't seem to have much regard for the Word of God.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14.

Thank you Jim and others here who have shared with us Biblical truth and brought into the light the false teachings that are being pushed here.
It does talk about how wolves will come in and try to deceive we need to hold firm to the truth in Christ Jesus.

God Bless
MJ

You, still, haven't been specific...why do you call me a heretic?

Are you saying, that, you do not need to keep the Ten Commandments? Those are law. If you do not keep them, you are in violation of His Word/His law.

The Apostle Paul wrote, "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas (Peter); and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor. 1:12,13.

The Lord call the apostate Catholic/Protestant religious system, "The Mother of harlots." Rev 17.

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE that ye be not partakers of her sins ("the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4) and that ye receive not of HER PLAGUES.

For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." (LAWLESSNESS). Rev 18:4,5.

Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice, and I KNOW THEM, and they follow Me." John 10:27.

You can fight me all you want, but you are, really, fighting the Word of God.

I do not work on the Sabbath...I worship the Lord and meet human need, just as Jesus did.

Ok, I'm done with this thread... You still did not answer my question. I wasn't asking if you worked on the Sabbath, I was asking if you worked 6 days a week.

You see, there are two parts to the 4th commandment. Note verse 9.

8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God.

I agree with what Jim has been saying.

I work five days a week.

God instituted the Sabbath at the Creation of the world:

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.

AND GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, AND SANCTIFIED IT: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made." Gen 2:1-3.

Long before there was a Jewish nation.

"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach into them that dwell upon the earth, AND TO EVERY NATION, AND KINDRED, AND TONGUE AND PEOPLE.

Saying with a loud voice, Fear God and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: AND WORSHIP HIM THAT MADE HEAVEN, AND EARTH, AND THE SEA, AND THE FOUNTAINS OF WATER." Rev 14:6,7.

When we honor Him on the Sabbath, we celebrate Him as Creator.

"If thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on MY HOLY DAY: and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour Him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it." Isa 58:13,14.

A sign of The Antichrist is "...he thinks to change times and laws." Dan 7:25. There is, only, one time in His Covenant - the Sabbath.

She, only, "thinks to change," because no man/institution can over-rule our Creator and change His law.

The Roman Catholic Church claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and she calls it her mark of authority to over-rule God's law.

Now, do you see why it is so important to honor Him on the Sabbath?

How important was keeping the Sabbath to the Apostles? They mention it once in their 21 epistles.

"16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Col. 2:15-16

You are referring to the Ceremonial law - the Sabbath Feast Days:

Passover: Our Passover Lamb
Unleavened Bread: He was without sin
Tabernacles: He "tabernacled among us."

If you want to read more about the Ceremonial law...refer to this post a few pages ago.

The Ceremonial law pointed to the sacrifice of Jesus, and was fulfilled, and nailed to the cross.

If you do a search under "Sabbath," you will find that the children of Israel, Jesus, His disciples, and the New Testament Christians kept the Sabbath holy.

The women wouldn't even anoint Jesus on the Sabbath, that, is why they came on Sunday.

Rome says, "Of course the Catholic Church claims the change was her act...and the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." Thomas, H.F. Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath.

Rome says, "It's (Sunday's change for Saturday) the mark of our authority to over-rule God's law." Father Enright, C.S.S.R., President of Redemptorist College, History of the Sabbath, p. 802.

"Sunday is our mark of authority...The church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, Sept 1, 1923.

"The Bible says, 'Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.' The Catholic Church says, No! by my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And,lo! The entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church." Father Enright.

"It shall Greatly Helpe Ye to Understand Scripture, If Thou Mark Not only What is Spoken or Written, But of Whom, And to Whom, With what Words, At what Time, Where, To what Intent, With what Circumstances, Considering what Goeth Before and what Followeth." John Wycliffe (1324-1383)

Rom. 11:1-6 I say then, Did not God thrust away His people? Let it not be! For I also am an Israelite, out of Abraham's seed, of the tribe of Benjamin. "God did not thrust away His people" whom He foreknew. (Psa. 94:14) Or do you not know what the Scripture said in Elijah, how he pleaded with God against Israel, saying, Lord, "they killed Your prophets," "and they dug down Your altars," "and only I am left, and they seek my life." (1 Kings 19:10) But what does the Divine answer say to him, "I reserved to Myself seven thousand men who did not bow a knee to Baal." (1 Kings 19:18) So then, also in the present time a remnant according to election of grace has come into being. But if by grace, no longer is it of works; else grace no longer becomes grace. But if of works, it is no longer grace; else work is no longer work.

The New Testament is clear that the believers sabbath rest is in the Person of Jesus and not in a day.

Heb. 4:3-10 For we, the ones believing, ENTER INTO THE REST, even as He said, "As I swore in My wrath, they shall not enter into My rest," though the works had come into being from the foundation of the world.For He has spoken somewhere about the seventh day this way, "And God rested from all His works in the seventh day." (Gen. 2:2) And in this again, "They shall not enter into My rest." Therefore, since it remains for some to enter into it, and those who formerly had the gospel preached did not enter in on account of disobedience, He again marks out a certain day, saying in David, Today (after so long a time, according as He has said), "Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts." For if Joshua gave them rest, then He would not have afterwards spoken about another day. So, then, there remains a sabbath rest to the people of God.For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS.

The fourth commandment, "Remember the Sabbath Day", is the sign, the seal of the Ten Commandments. In it, the Law Giver and His authority are identified as the Lord who made heaven and earth.

Even as circumcision was a sign, a "seal of the righteousness of the faith", given to Abraham (Rom. 4:11).

The Holy Spirit is the seal for the believer (Ephesians 1:13; 4:30, John 3:33 and 6:27; 2 Timothy 2:19)identifying us as His own as new creatures in the new creation.

Also,we have entered the kingdom of God through the new birth.

John 3:5-6 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Those of the 'remanant of the election of grace' are represented in the 144,000 in Revelation 7 & 14.

Rev. 7:2-4 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev. 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 Tim. 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

If any would like to read an article on "The Believers Sabbath" you may do so here:

http://www.soundofgrace.com/jgr/index076.htm

If any would like to read "The Eternity of Hell Torments" you may do so here:

http://www.sounddoctrine.net/Classic_Sermons/Jonathan%20Edwards/Eternity_hell_torments.htm

An excellent documentary which exposes Seventh Day Adventism was produced by Jeremiah Films and may be purchased here:

http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/products/SDAD

Then why does Jesus prophesy, that, the Sabbath will be kept during The Great Tribulation, and we are not there, yet? Mt 24:20?

Was the Lord Jesus Christ in error? To say so, would be blasphemous!

Then why does God prophesy through Isaiah and say, that, we will keep the Sabbath in His Kingdom?

"For as the NEW HEAVENS and the NEW EARTH, which I will make, shall remain before Me, SAITH THE LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, SAITH THE LORD? Isa 66:22,23.

Even in His Kingdom, we will honor Him as Creator of all.

The fourth Commandment is just that - a Commandment, and not a request. If you break this Commandment, you are a transgressor of the law.

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW." 1 John 3:4.

"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Rom 3:31

The children of Israel, Jesus, His disciples, and the New Testament Christians kept the Sabbath holy. Refer to your Concordance.

My, only, authority is the Word of God, and not tradition.

"If we say ..."

sscr01 wrote:
I keep all the commandments that are written in Scripture.

The Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy, ""I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE..." 2 Tim 1:3.

I serve Him with a pure conscience, and trust the Holy Spirit to reveal anything to me, that I need to repent of...that is what sanctification is all about.

1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Jas 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

[b][u]Strife[/u][/b]

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 1Ti 6:3-5

For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace. Jas 3:16-18

[b][u]Be ... ware[/u][/b]

Mat 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Mat 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

[b][u]Of leaven[/u][/b]

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Gal 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

[b][u]Conscience[/u][/b]

Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, that I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart ... Rom 9:1-2

1Co 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

1Co 10:29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?

2Co 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

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These similar posts, either on the Ten Commandments or the Sabbath are trotted out once every couple of months - cut and pasted over and over ad naussem.

One remedy, in it's entirety;

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=10733&forum=34&post_id=&refresh=Go]Jonathan Edwards - Undiscerned Spiritual Pride[/url]

When we are born of His Spirit, it is His Spirit that empowers us to obey His Word/His law.

When Jesus gave us "The Two Greatest Commandments," He was quoting the law. Deut 6:5; Lev 19:18.

"By this we know that we love the children of God, WHEN WE LOVE GOD, AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS.For this is the love of God that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: and His commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:2,3.

Jesus said, "If ye love Me, keep My Commandments." John 14:15.

Jesus said, "He that hath My commandments and keepeth them: HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME: and he that loveth Me SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER, AND I WILL LOVE HIM, and will manifest Myself to him." John 14:21.

"And this is love that we walk after His commandments." 2 John 6

"And hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith, I KNOW HIM and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR and the Truth is not in him: but whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we do know that we are in Him. He that saith, he abideth in Him, ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked." 1 John 2:3-6.

The children of Israel, Jesus, His disciples and the New Testament Christians kept the Sabbath holy, and so should we.

His church keeps His commandments: "And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, WHICH KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD,and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17.

His saints keep His commandments: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev 14:12.

And, finally, the Apostle John wrote, "Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." REv 22:14.

If you love Him, you will keep the Ten Commandment Covenant.

If we call Him, Lord, we should obey the Word of God - His every Word.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

Dear ones,

Take care. Where is the gentleness and respect?

I'll plunge in: Here is the warning: Heb3:12-15

Good news with a caution: Heb4:1-10

Through faith in Christ, we enter into the rest from works (self-effort).

We are all law breakers. None of us can keep the Law. Only Jesus kept it perfectly, and because of our position in Him as believers, He is the very fulfillment of the Law in us. He is the Lord of the Sabbath, and as His followers, we must find our rest in Him daily. Man has a need for rest, but only through Christ can we find eternal rest. He is our Sabbath. By faith in Christ alone, we enter into His rest.

I am no legalist, but I still hold that God is honored when we set aside the seventh day or Sunday (the Lord's day) for rest and worship. It was in my lifetime that the Bible belt went from everything closed on Sunday to everything opened. As a child, I saw the world around me honoring God, our laws reflected the reverence for God, people thought about God because that one day was treated differently--and as the world crept in, and people forgot God, all of that changed. Personally, I find it Christ-honoring that Chick-fil-a is still closed on Sunday. What a beautiful testimony to the Lord and His day!

The Law could not save us, because it is impossible to keep it--the Law condemns us. Jesus is our rest from dead works which cannot save us from our sin. The Law reveals that we all fall short, all miss the mark, all fail. That is why we need a Savior.

But neither should we disregard the Law, because it is not abolished, but fulfilled in Christ. Heb9:22, Heb9:27-28, Heb10:1 By it, we will be judged, if we are not found in Christ, trusting in His perfect work on our behalf. The Law reflects a holy and perfect God, and His requirements for holiness and perfection are revealed in the Law. It is the mirror into which we look and see ourselves as God sees us--sinners, law breakers, destitute debtors.

If we love God, we will love His law, and He will write it on the tablets of our new hearts. Psalm 119 is the essence of what the heart of one who loves God should be. I love Christ, because He has kept the law for me; through my surrender daily, He is formed more perfectly in me. A few verses upon which to meditate:

How blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the Lord. Ps119:1

Thy testimonies also are my delight; they are my counselors. Ps119:24

Give me understanding, that I may observe Thy law, and keep it with all my heart. Make me walk in the path of Thy commandments, for I delight in it. Ps119:34-35

A sign of The Antichrist is "...he thinks to change times and laws." There is, only, one time in His Covenant - the Sabbath.

As I have stated, the Catholic Church claims to have over-ruled God and changed the day to Sunday. Even though, Jesus referred to Himself as "The Lord of the Sabbath." Mt 12:8;Mk 2:28;Lu 6:5.

He instituted the Sabbath at Creation, long before there was a Jewish nation.

Jesus prophesied, that, the Sabbath would be kept during The Great Tribulation, and we are not there, yet. Mt 24:20.

God used Isaiah to prophesy,that we will keep the Sabbath in His kingdom. Isa 66:22,23.

You, either, obey the fourth commandment, or, you don't.

If you don't obey the commandment, you are a transgressor of the law.

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW." 1 John 3:4.

Jesus said, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not My Words, hath one that judgeth him:THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY." John 12:48.

The Apostle Paul wrote, "For as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many AS HAVE SINNED IN THE LAW SHALL BE JUDGED BY THE LAW; For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED." Rom 2:12,13.

HIS WORD/HIS LAW will judge each one of us.

Again, "Do we then make VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? God forbid: yea, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW." Rom 3:31.

I have covered this enough. Actually, I am calling Christians back to obedience to the Word of God. Now, you, either, choose to obey His law, or, you don't.

God calls the apostate religious system, "The Mother of harlots." Rev 17. She has traded much of the Word of God for her traditions.

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins ("the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4) and that ye receive not of HER PLAGUES.

For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." (LAWLESSNESS) Rev 18:4,5.

Jesus said, "My sheep hear My Voice, and I KNOW THEM, and they follow Me." John 10:27.

Let us obey His Word and not our denomination's traditions.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word, and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.

sscr01 wrote:

As I have stated, the Catholic Church claims to have over-ruled God and changed the day to Sunday. Even though, Jesus referred to Himself as "The Lord of the Sabbath." Mt 12:8;Mk 2:28;Lu 6:5.

Sometimes truth sits between two opposing errors. Polarizing against the errors of Romanism is not a reliable criterion for determing truth.

Jesus prophesied, that, the Sabbath would be kept during The Great Tribulation, and we are not there, yet. Mt 24:20.

The Sabbath will be kept because there will be Jews in the world during the Tribulation. By the way, it is only by imposing dispensationalism--an extra-biblical redaction--on the Bible that you can place Matt. 24:20 in the Great Tribulation, because the next verse says, "For THEN shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." So you are not quite the biblical purist you suppose yourself to be.

As a young Christian I once attended a Bible study at which I expressed an opinion on a certain doctrinal question. An elder brother quoted a Scripture that flatly contradicted my opinion. I was thunderstruck, mortified to realize that I was contradicting Scripture. It was a humbling experience.

We have bombarded you for days with Scriptures that contradict your opinions, and it hasn't fazed you in the least. You use the Scriptures as a weapon to wound people's consciences, not for sins they've commited, but for disagreeing with your doctrines. Now we have done to you what David did to Goliath--cut your head off with your own sword. And you haven't even noticed! You keep running headlong into error--minus your head!

I certainly hope you are correct in your conviction that you are infallibly right about everything. Because if you are in error, you will remain in error the rest of your life, since you won't listen to anyone.