A merica is a Christian Nation!

Don't deny us our Christrian Heritage. Although we have religious freedom in the US we are still a Christian Nation. Because we were founded on the principals and moral belifs and foundations of the BIBLE! Thats why every president (including Obama) placred thier hand on the Christian Bible when taking the oath of office....there are more churches in America then any other establishment....because we are still a Christian Nation!

For what is worth, CANADA is based on much the same beliefs...

Brother; let us cherish our heritage and the godly
principles that from the foundation of this nation;
and let us be true to the convictions and ideals
our forefathers knew and believed!! ;-)

Although the pretender to the Presidency says it is so, neither are we the "largest Muslim Country in the World."

Rev. 3:14-22 . . . .15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

People must choose which master they will serve. You can not serve two masters.

People must choose which master they will serve. You can not serve two masters.

Good point.

If we are to look at this by percentages...there being only two choices...God or satan...

I would say it is very clear whether America is a Christian nation or not.

can someone define what you meen by christian nation? because there is no such thing according to my new testament understanding

Hi hmmhmm…

can someone define what you meen by christian nation? because there is no such thing according to my new testament understanding

America, however, is a nation where the majority of citizens actually claim to be Christians. Of course, this claim is exerted by “Christians” from all creeds and sects. According to [url=https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/US.html]the CIA from information taken by the US Census Bureau and the Department of the Interior[/url] as of 2007, 51.3% of Americans claim to be Protestants (defined as anyone belonging to Protestant denominations, fellowships, organizations or individual churches), 23.9% claim to be Roman Catholic, 1.7% claim to be Mormon, 1.7% claim to be other types of Christians. This equates to nearly 77% of the entire population.

Many world leaders consider the United States to be a Christian nation. Of course, they are likely pointing to the 77%+ figure from the CIA or other intelligence agencies. This is quite understandable. We all consider the United States to be an [i]English-speaking[/i] nation, but only about 82% of the population actually speaks English (and some might argue that some of that 82% don’t speak English very well – lol). So from an entirely analytical perspective, America is a predominantly Christian nation. Major polling data this year has indicated that roughly 90% of Americans claim to believe in God, 81% believe in Heaven, 78% believe in angels and demons, and 70% believe in the existence of the Devil and Hell. About 80% of Americans claimed to believe in God and an additional 13% claimed to believe in a “Universal Spirit” or “Higher Power.” According to a recent Gallup poll, approximately 80% of Americans believe that “the Bible is the actual or inspired Word of God,” while approximately 18% believe that it is a fairy tale or uncertain of its validity.

Now, as far as Obama’s claim that this is a large Muslim nation, the CIA lists that only 0.6% of the population claims to be Muslim. However, 1.7% report to be Jewish and 0.7% claim to be Buddhist. Other minor religions make up 2.5% of the nation. Those who claim to be unaffiliated with any particular religious sect comprise about 12.5% of the nation (however, this number also includes certain Christian groups, including private home churches). Only 4% of Americans report that they do not belong to any sort of religious persuasion.

The nation was surely founded upon Christian principles. An overwhelming majority of the founders of this nation incorporated their faith into much of their decision making process. The speeches and writings of early America consisted of the Christian faith. The founders also engrafted Christian principle into the very laws of the nation. In fact, the Bible was required reading for law students in the United States (like a young Charles Finney) for over 100 years after the founding of the nation! Aspects of Christianity are found throughout our nation. In fact, Communist leaders during the Cold War (and more recently, Islamic clerics) dismissed our founding documents (like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) to be “Christian texts.”

As believers who actually know the Lord, we certainly realize that many people who claim to be a “Christian” don’t meet the Biblical definition of the word. Our entrance into Heaven is not conditional upon what we called ourselves here on Earth. Only those who are truly born again – who know the Lord Jesus Christ – will meet the Biblical definition of a “Christian.”

Yet there is no mistaking that much of the world considers this to be a “Christian” nation. Islamists, Hindus and communists call us a Christian nation. Atheists and amoralists try to claim that this is NOT a Christian nation – and seemingly go out of their way to try and make it so. Interestingly, my wife is a school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area. She works at a private school with a large Asian-immigrant population. She has been told repeatedly by the Indian, Chinese, Korean, Russian (etc…) parents that they were happy to live in a “Christian nation” now. Once, my wife asked why they called the United States a “Christian” nation. The parents told her that all she had to do was live in their former countries for a while to understand the difference.

America is far from perfect. Many of those founding Christian principles have been dumped by certain politicians in this nation. Our nation now leads the world in the total number of abortions (however, former communist nations like Russia, Bulgaria, and Cuba vastly outnumber in the per capita abortion rate). Sin abounds in America, and many people would like the government to “protect” their “rights” to live in sin (and even want the government to say that their sinful lifestyle is “normal”). For many, their “Christianity” is confined to a label and does not follow them when they are alone, or to work, or to the voting booth. Even many “Christian” churches preach a “religion of convenience” where they pick and choose the topics that they find helpful for their lifestyle. A “relationship with God” is often confined to a few prayers when they are stressed, in trouble, or want something good. To many who claim to be Christians, a relationship with Christ is muddied by the doctrines and traditions of men.

But for all of its faults, America still embraces many of the same principles that were created by its founders. Liberty can be, of course, a Christian principle. We can freely choose to follow Christ or to reject Him. Yet no one would pretend that we could vote or legislate the Lord to the masses. However, much of legislation is not a matter of faith, but of righteousness and unrighteousness. For instance, abortion is a repulsive slaughter that has been literally legislated to fruition by unrighteous men. Homosexuality is literally being legislated by men who want the state to recognize and protect a sexual fetish as “normal.” Commercial pornography that is marketed to lustful men is sometimes funded by the state as “free speech.”

More importantly than how “Christian” our temporary nation might be is the fact that God placed many of us here. We are given the opportunity to live in a relatively free nation. If any of you have had the opportunity to live or travel overseas, you will quickly realize how blessed you are to live in this nation. When my wife (then girlfriend) studied in Europe while in grad school, she told me via telephone and email that she couldn’t wait to return to the States. It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t a beautiful place, but that it lacked many of the things that Americans take for granted – from the simple things (good toilet paper and inexpensive American products, air conditioning, fast food) to the most important things (like readily accessible Christian fellowship and encouragement).

I have traveled to other countries. Like my wife, I always return thankful for the country of my temporary earthly citizenship. Yet I am also struck with the overwhelming responsibility given to me. Like Esther, I believe that I have been placed here in this position for “such a time as this” (Esther 4:14). I also remember the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14-30). For those of us who have been so blessed as to live in countries like this, we must realize that we are like the man who was given more talents. What will we show for it?

:-(

Hi reformer,

What I don't understand how can we claim to be a christian nation, when we keep Christ out of everything we say or do? Were not most of the forefathers deist? You can't say you believe in God with out naming the name of Jesus Christ! Where is that in history of our forefathers? You can't have one with out the other. Christ is God and anything less than that...is a lie.

The Body of B. Franklin, Printer;
like the Cover of an old Book,
Its Contents torn out,
And stript of its Lettering and Gilding,
Lies here, Food for Worms.
But the Work shall not be wholly lost;
For it will, as he believ'd, appear once more,
In a new & more perfect Edition,
Corrected and amended By the Author.

Regardless if America was a Christian nation, it certainly doesn't practice such now. Perhaps our goal should be less effort on arguing about what we were and more effort in restoring those principles (the Constitution) to the present and future.

I think it's vitally important for godly Christians to be involved in politics, and it is certainly possible to do so while maintaining an ecclesiastical/civil distinction. We need William Wilberforces who will labor for righteousness and justice in the civil realm, and we need pastors to encourage those who have a gift and desire in this area to pursue it.

With care in Christ,
Taylor

thank you chris for your reply, if a christian nation is due to the fact the fathers who established the country where christians and because most people say they are christians then i can agree america is a christian nation.

Not in truth christian as one who follows Jesus but as a name i can accept, in swedish school books it says swedens religion is christianity and 99% is christians.

because when you are born you automatic is registered into the swedish state church.

Now none of this make you a real christian, thank god america and sweden has much good, such as the free healthcare here at least, police and social services and freedom in much. That is very good. But what my main problem is that christ said my kingdom is not of this world, so anyone, no matter denomination or doctrine who belong to His kingdom is not of this world either, then it to me at least according to my opinion would be foolish to say my kingdom(country) is a christian, when it can never be, only individuals can be christians. in theory i can agree if the majority of government people where true born again believers following the new testament as their guide for establishing the laws and rule of a nation and the majority of people where christian you might call that a christian nation.

But my nation say its christian but same time the make it abominations "rights" and actually in most things do just opposite towards what God has said, even tho somethings are according to what he said most things are direct abominations and attempts to dethrone the living God, to me its wishful thinking to say my nation is a christian nation, its for me the swedish people with pride for their country thats needs to be rooted out, all pride is bad, for country , for your soccer team, for the right to be so free you can abort children , free to have homosexual marriages done in the house of god ect ect.

a christian nation would be a nation that sets Gods will first no matter what a human say, when humans freedom and will reign that is selfishness and humanism and diabolical.

But I think it means little really, we are called to pray and not to reform our country's, to be light in darkness, and the darker it is the brighter we should shine, light does that :-)

I think we are to earthbound and focus so much on this world, i think Daniel was a great example, he stood for God uncompromising and god used him to free his people out of Babylon to the homeland

now my homeland is not Sweden but heaven, i am a stranger here as Daniel was in Babylon, God may use me to free his people out of this world and bring them to heaven.

God used one man or four with his three friends to change a nation, four men uncompromising with Gods word can change a nation, yet my nation claims to have almost 9 million christians and sin abounds every day worse and worse, how can it be? something is wrong.

I think we should dump the whole idea of christian nation, it may be as you say a country based upon christian values and morals and that is a blessing, but its not so today, would the founding fathers have legalized abortion or homosexuality?

but these are just my opinions and what bothers me with that expression, i think by excepting christian nations we are diminishing gods kingdom and what really counts.

anyway, let us pray for our leaders and our nations, that gods will be done in judgment and mercy that the heavenly kingdom may be populated.

Krispy,

I think what he meant to say was "America is the largest country square mileage-wise that has Muslims residing in it".

You 'know' his mind? I have seen no retraction or clarification made. I believe he is seeing into the future after he brings all them over here.

white stone

You called Obama a 'pretender'.

He has not proven his Constitutional eligibility by showing his Long Form Birth Certificate. His citizenship was not vetted. If someone climbs into the palace by a rope that does not make them Prince.

Hi reformer...

I am not trying to argue whether or not Benjamin Franklin was a deist or not (especially at the end of his life). I will say that his beliefs in government were founded upon Christian principle.

As for the "Article 11" writing that you introduced, the Avalon Project at Yale University doubts that it ever existed. Even if Franklin did write these words, they are not official texts of the United States...and only cement the author's opinion. There are many, many writings by Franklin that indicate a need for divine intervention at the creation of the nation. His autobiography is filled with allusions to Christianity and even his friendship with evangelist George Whitefield. We can consider several of Benjamin Franklin’s quotes that indicate a greater appreciation of Christianity. For instance:

“Young man, my advice to you is that you cultivate an acquaintance with and firm belief in the Holy Scriptures, for this is your certain interest. I think Christ's system of morals and religion, as He left them with us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see.”

“I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid?

We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that "except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall be become a reproach and a bye word down to future age. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human Wisdom, and leave it to chance, war, and conquest.

I therefore beg leave to move -- that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that service.

Like I said earlier, I agree that this nation is far from a “Christian” nation in terms of where the majority stand with God. Our nation is filled with sinners. I doubt that many believers would argue with that. Yet it is a stretch to argue that this nation was not once “a Christian nation” at least in terms of the guiding principles during its founding. Sadly, the slow rejection of Christianity in America has led to an increase in unrighteousness. While I would still never want to live anywhere else (unless the Lord sent me), I am still praying for a revival in this land of my temporary citizenship. I cannot help but consider that God has placed us in this land “for such a time as this.”

Leonard Ravenhill said, The darkness of this world is the gift of the Church..."
As far as America being a Christian Nation i agree with what this dear friend wrote...it's worth repeating ihope you don't mind.

Hi hmmhmm…

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I know that the term “Christian nation” sounds a little disingenuous to those of us who are aware of the moral and spiritual famine in this land. No one (I think) would believe that America is a nation comprised of a majority of Christians (Christians as defined by the Scriptures).

America, however, is a nation where the majority of citizens actually claim to be Christians. Of course, this claim is exerted by “Christians” from all creeds and sects. According to the CIA from information taken by the US Census Bureau and the Department of the Interior as of 2007, 51.3% of Americans claim to be Protestants (defined as anyone belonging to Protestant denominations, fellowships, organizations or individual churches), 23.9% claim to be Roman Catholic, 1.7% claim to be Mormon, 1.7% claim to be other types of Christians. This equates to nearly 77% of the entire population.

Many world leaders consider the United States to be a Christian nation. Of course, they are likely pointing to the 77%+ figure from the CIA or other intelligence agencies. This is quite understandable. We all consider the United States to be an English-speaking nation, but only about 82% of the population actually speaks English (and some might argue that some of that 82% don’t speak English very well – lol). So from an entirely analytical perspective, America is a predominantly Christian nation. Major polling data this year has indicated that roughly 90% of Americans claim to believe in God, 81% believe in Heaven, 78% believe in angels and demons, and 70% believe in the existence of the Devil and Hell. About 80% of Americans claimed to believe in God and an additional 13% claimed to believe in a “Universal Spirit” or “Higher Power.” According to a recent Gallup poll, approximately 80% of Americans believe that “the Bible is the actual or inspired Word of God,” while approximately 18% believe that it is a fairy tale or uncertain of its validity.

Now, as far as Obama’s claim that this is a large Muslim nation, the CIA lists that only 0.6% of the population claims to be Muslim. However, 1.7% report to be Jewish and 0.7% claim to be Buddhist. Other minor religions make up 2.5% of the nation. Those who claim to be unaffiliated with any particular religious sect comprise about 12.5% of the nation (however, this number also includes certain Christian groups, including private home churches). Only 4% of Americans report that they do not belong to any sort of religious persuasion.

The nation was surely founded upon Christian principles. An overwhelming majority of the founders of this nation incorporated their faith into much of their decision making process. The speeches and writings of early America consisted of the Christian faith. The founders also engrafted Christian principle into the very laws of the nation. In fact, the Bible was required reading for law students in the United States (like a young Charles Finney) for over 100 years after the founding of the nation! Aspects of Christianity are found throughout our nation. In fact, Communist leaders during the Cold War (and more recently, Islamic clerics) dismissed our founding documents (like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) to be “Christian texts.”

As believers who actually know the Lord, we certainly realize that many people who claim to be a “Christian” don’t meet the Biblical definition of the word. Our entrance into Heaven is not conditional upon what we called ourselves here on Earth. Only those who are truly born again – who know the Lord Jesus Christ – will meet the Biblical definition of a “Christian.”

Yet there is no mistaking that much of the world considers this to be a “Christian” nation. Islamists, Hindus and communists call us a Christian nation. Atheists and amoralists try to claim that this is NOT a Christian nation – and seemingly go out of their way to try and make it so. Interestingly, my wife is a school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area. She works at a private school with a large Asian-immigrant population. She has been told repeatedly by the Indian, Chinese, Korean, Russian (etc…) parents that they were happy to live in a “Christian nation” now. Once, my wife asked why they called the United States a “Christian” nation. The parents told her that all she had to do was live in their former countries for a while to understand the difference.

America is far from perfect. Many of those founding Christian principles have been dumped by certain politicians in this nation. Our nation now leads the world in the total number of abortions (however, former communist nations like Russia, Bulgaria, and Cuba vastly outnumber in the per capita abortion rate). Sin abounds in America, and many people would like the government to “protect” their “rights” to live in sin (and even want the government to say that their sinful lifestyle is “normal”). For many, their “Christianity” is confined to a label and does not follow them when they are alone, or to work, or to the voting booth. Even many “Christian” churches preach a “religion of convenience” where they pick and choose the topics that they find helpful for their lifestyle. A “relationship with God” is often confined to a few prayers when they are stressed, in trouble, or want something good. To many who claim to be Christians, a relationship with Christ is muddied by the doctrines and traditions of men.

But for all of its faults, America still embraces many of the same principles that were created by its founders. Liberty can be, of course, a Christian principle. We can freely choose to follow Christ or to reject Him. Yet no one would pretend that we could vote or legislate the Lord to the masses. However, much of legislation is not a matter of faith, but of righteousness and unrighteousness. For instance, abortion is a repulsive slaughter that has been literally legislated to fruition by unrighteous men. Homosexuality is literally being legislated by men who want the state to recognize and protect a sexual fetish as “normal.” Commercial pornography that is marketed to lustful men is sometimes funded by the state as “free speech.”

More importantly than how “Christian” our temporary nation might be is the fact that God placed many of us here. We are given the opportunity to live in a relatively free nation. If any of you have had the opportunity to live or travel overseas, you will quickly realize how blessed you are to live in this nation. When my wife (then girlfriend) studied in Europe while in grad school, she told me via telephone and email that she couldn’t wait to return to the States. It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t a beautiful place, but that it lacked many of the things that Americans take for granted – from the simple things (good toilet paper and inexpensive American products, air conditioning, fast food) to the most important things (like readily accessible Christian fellowship and encouragement).

I have traveled to other countries. Like my wife, I always return thankful for the country of my temporary earthly citizenship. Yet I am also struck with the overwhelming responsibility given to me. Like Esther, I believe that I have been placed here in this position for “such a time as this” (Esther 4:14). I also remember the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14-30). For those of us who have been so blessed as to live in countries like this, we must realize that we are like the man who was given more talents. What will we show for it?

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-Chris
Jeremiah 29:11-13
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"Are the things you're living for worth Christ dying for?"
- epitaph of Leonard Ravenhill

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
- Jim Elliot

Leonard Ravenhill said, The darkness of this world is the gift of the Church..."

What did he mean by that obscure statement?

How does he mean the Church gave darkness to the world?

I do agree with what you said about traveling outside the USA. It is a gift from God to have had the freedom to worship as we have had here.

Kind regards,
white stone

America is under the judgement of God for her sins of abortion, immorality, and idolatry to name a few, and the judgements are going to get much worse. To whom much is given, much will be required. We have been blessed as a nation like no other, but have backslid in our prosperity.

I thank God for our Christian heritage in this nation and for the freedoms that we have been blessed with. As long as we have recognized God in our government, out schools, and in other areas of life, we have been blessed by God. Our friendshp and aid to Israel, helping the poor and the needy around the world has brought the blessing of God on this country. However now we are pressuring Israel to divide their land and this will result in certain judgement to this nation.

We desperately need another revival in this nation that will reult in a great awakening. The majority of the people in this nation are deceived, and for the most part the church is asleep.

Judgement must begin in the house of God. Will the Church in America get it right, pray, humble itself and repent or will we brought down low by the hand of God?

America is not the kingdom of God, and being on the right side politically is not going to change us. We must seek the face of God. We need His presence in our churches. God is merciful, longsuffering, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance and the knowledge of the truth.

God shall not be mocked, and America is now reaping an harvest of the humanism and pride that has been sown.

May the Lord have mercy on us.

Mike

Congressman Forbes speaking on this subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpQOCvthw-o

Galatians 6:7-8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

The fact that America pronounces that it is a Christian nation would bring gods judgment much harder upon her then otherwise i believe.

corruption=5356 fqora, phthora {fthor-ah'}
Meaning:
1) corruption, destruction, perishing 1a) that which is subject to corruption, what is perishable
1b) in the Christian sense, eternal misery in hell
2) in the NT, in an ethical sense, corruption i.e. moral decay

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