I as you all know am struggling for a long time. I have been praying and pleading to God but this past 2 months i have seen to losing my faith and i am not believing like i use to, i do not know if satan is blocking my mind now or what but if any of you know anyone who is a deliverance minister or who has dealt with demons or spirits in their life would you be able to help. You know i know christ is the deliverer but i feel my prayers our just doing the total opposite and its scaring me. If anyone knows anyone that is biblical, is humble and who will not lift up their own prayers but christ only, who can help deal with this with me. I am not really looking for someone to comfort me so don't be decieved their is no personal reason i am hiding from telling the truth, i want to be delivered and free. I have been to many deliverance ministers who speak of soul ties, speaking prayers out loud continuously, confession of sins etc. but i have seen and have had no change. I do not want to fall away completely from God.
this is for me, deliverance ministers
My dear brother, may you understand that Christ is magnified in weakness, perplexity and the cloud of unknowing. Faith rests in what He alone can do in you and through you. You don't need a deliverance minister as much as you need to be delivered from these ministers. I may not know the name of the demon, principality or power but I know the name that is above all names, King Jesus!! God I give you my weakness, confusion and lack of faith and today ask for the great exchange. I give you all that I am for all that you are. He is a rewarder of those who will dilegently seek Him. He is a friend of the wounded heart and identifies with you better than any deliverance huckster, er um minister ever will.
God save me from Myself
God save me from the love of myself
God save me from love of Praise
God save me from serving you to be rewarded by men
God save me from preaching what others should do and not doing it myself
God save me from Hypocrisy and gossip I call prayer
God save me from ministering in your name but not calling on you by name each day
God save me from work for you and not worshiping towards you
God save me from talking about love for you but not taking time with you
God save me from titles and entitlements
God save me from pleasures that build the flesh but deny your Spirit
God save me from serving you to be well thought of by others
God save me from loving danger more than loving your peace
God save me from griping and complaining about simple things and then talking about sacrifice
God save me from using the Bible to make my point and thereby prove others wrong
God save me from being right all the time
God save me from a sharp tongue and a back biting spirit and calling it quick wittiness
God save me from pride in what I do and not glorying in my weakness
God save from leading by command and not by example
God save me from giving to others while always keeping the best for me
God save me from serving you and taking the glory and the rewards
God save me from using you to further my ministry and my agenda
God save me from praying only for my sins, myself, my work, my ministry, my stuff
God save me from preaching from my heart and not yours
God save me from seeking the lost as a notch on my belt or a bragging point
God save me from trying to be the most spiritual so other around me can be put down
God save me from the pecking order and using leadership as a place of advantage rather than service to others
God save me from looking to men for my provision rather than you
God save me from favoring people based upon what they give or bring to my life
God save me from loving those who love me while flippantly passing by those who have offended me
God save me from hating my enemies and using my friends
God save me from my egotistical knowledge that I use to impress or subdue others
God save me from not loving my wife or my children while running around the world to love others
God save me from having pity on the poor but not compassion
God save me from westernanity and justifying it as Christianity
God save me from using you rather than being used by you
God save me from a critical spirit that I disguise as discernment
God save me from confronting sin in others and not in my own life
God save me from confronting others while being contentious
God save me from giving advice when I simply need to pray
God save me from preaching to others while I neglect you and my own soul
God save me from fear of men while not fearing you
God save me from giving with out loving and saying I love without giving
Save me from tithing but boasting or wanting to see you move so others see how great I am
God save me from prostituting you gifts and using you power for my glory
God save me from laziness as I learn more about a television program than your word
God save me from wasting time when time is such a precious gift
God save me from seeking crowds to talk about you and not being alone with you
God save me from pushing my agenda and calling it your will
God save me from boasting about outer freedoms while hiding my secret inner sins
God save me from smooth talking to the powerful and harsh talking to the weak
God save me from thinking more highly of myself and looking out for my needs over others around me
God save me from asking for you power and anointing to impress the listener and trying to hold sway over them
God save me from wanting to be a good preacher and neglecting you hard truths to gain approval from man
God save me from getting my stories that other people suffered for
God save me from the hypocrisy, pride, contention, evil thoughts, lust full thinking, loving of the world and pleasure, boasting in my exploits, bragging about my spirituality all while leaving you in the dust and living from yesterdays Manna
Oh God have Mercy and save me from myself
Kevin J Turner
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Dear brothers,
The good news is that Jesus Christ came not only to save us from the power of sin, but to save us from our wretched sin nature, and He accomplished this work on the cross. Not only did He bear our sins, but we were crucified in Him. We have aleady been dealt with. We don't have to struggle with the old sin nature any longer, but reckon ourselves to be dead to sin but alive unto God.
There may be areas in our lives where we have given place to the devil, and sometimes it might be neccessary to get some help from more mature brothers that understand deliverance, but ultimately we are the ones that must submit ourselves to God, and we are the ones that must resist the devil.
Jesus Christ has defeated the enemy. He has defeated principalities and powers, and every true child of God has been delivered from the power of darkness and has been translated into the kingdom of God's dear Son. We must stand in the victory that has already been purchased for us by the shed blood of Jesus Christ. We have been given authority to tread on serpents and scorpions. The weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but are mighty unto God to pull down the strongholds of the enemy.
Praise be to God! There is victory in Jesus!!
In His Love,
Mike
As strange as this may seem, but stop struggling. Stop trying to stop sinning, stop trying to do whatever your trying to stop. I know that sounds so against the bible, but it's something that I had to do myself. I've been where your at. When we struggle with something, we are still trying to hold on to the reins so to speak. But if you recognize that your dead and the sin that is in your members acts out, it's not you doing it. Thats what you have to learn to separate yourself from, the born again you and the flesh. With the flesh is condemnation, with the Spirit is life and peace. Stop what your doing. If your flesh sins, repent of immediately and give God the thanks that He is working to mortify the deeds of the flesh by your cooperation of stop trying and by the Spirit that can only put to death the deeds of the flesh.
DeepThinker good word!
That reminds me, from what you said, of what our past Director Joyce Green (Milton's wife) has said before about trying to keep the commandments of God she said that when you tell God you can't He says in sense "I never said you could, I always said I would - through you."
The promise of the scriptures which I hold unto because in me (that is my flesh) dwelleth no good thing, is the fact that God would do it through us.when you tell God you can't He says in sense "I never said you could, I always said I would - through you."
God would cause us to walk in His statutes. I've meditated on those words over and over again, and it's Christ in the hope of glory. This reminds me of when Samuel told King Saul all that would happen to him after he was anointed King over Israel. The scriptures says that he would be changed into another man. It blows my mind of the things that God hath prepared for us to them that love Him in this life and the life that we now know of as eternal life.Ezekiel 36:25-29 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you:[b][size=medium]and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them[/size][/b] and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, . 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses:
i love that verse but i know thats not me, i have only fallen and fallen and have swayed away from serving him.
Interesting list, Kevin.
God save me from being right all the time
I have a problem with this. Seems to me it deserves a better explanation. Or, just may be should not be on this list.
This can be correct if you mean that I insist that everyone agrees with me. This is arrogance.
On the other hand, when you expound on the WORD you should always strive to be 100% right. Do you not know that false prophets in the OT were marked by not being correct 100% of the time? To settle for less then 100% accuracy is to open yourself to deception. That is why it is a grave responsibility to be so careful when we handle the WORD. The WORD belongs to God and we must regard it as sacred and never misquote it, misuse it.
My understanding,
Blessings,
ginnyrose
bible1985 wrote:
I as you all know am struggling for a long time. I have been praying and pleading to God but this past 2 months i have seen to losing my faith and i am not believing like i use to
[b]God hears your prayers
i do not know if satan is blocking my mind
Satan attacks you mind with thoughts. You need to resist the thoughts and confess the truth. When the lie comes you resist it. Say Satan your a lair and always been a liar, then confess what God says about the situation.
now or what but if any of you know anyone who is a deliverance minister or who has dealt with demons or spirits in their life would you be able to help. You know i know christ is the deliverer but i feel my prayers our just doing the total opposite and its scaring me. If anyone knows anyone that is biblical, is humble and who will not lift up their own prayers but christ only, who can help deal with this with me. I am not really looking for someone to comfort me so don't be decieved their is no personal reason i am hiding from telling the truth, i want to be delivered and free. I have been to many deliverance ministers who speak of soul ties, speaking prayers out loud continuously, confession of sins etc. but i have seen and have had no change. I do not want to fall away completely from God.
You realy don't need a deliverance minister you need to stand and fight yourself, take everything you have been taught and use it they way you have been taught. Trust in God for your victory don't look not to men. If you put your trust in God he will move heaven and earth on your behalf.
Here is the key [b]trust him[b]believe[b]regardless of what the situation looks like or the lies that come against you mind
If can't believe God to do something Grand chose something small and pray it through until the victory comes.
Hudson Taylor testimony of praying to move the hearts of men comes to mind.
Praying! And answers to prayer! That became the passion of his life. He learned to move men through God by prayer.
[url=http://www.wholesomewords.org/missions/biotaylor.html]Hudson Taylor
Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free
It is really just the determination to do His Word. If you fall, and you will, get back up, The steps of a good man are ordered bythe Lord THOUGH he fall...not if he fall, he will not be cast down for the Lord will uphold him by His hand. If you will just purpose today to follow Jesus, forget yesterday and don't worry about tomarrow, just today, and if you fail, 70x's 7, today, you'll need to keep getting back up and looking unto Jesus the Author and finisher of your Faith (eternal salvation). Today.
Also stop looking at yourself, look at Jesus, the rest will take care of itself.
looking to jesus will not do it, if the devil has certain rights an a person. first the person needs to repent and confess the sin, then look to jesus.
paul says that the gospel is "repent and believe".
just repenting without believing in christ will not do it.
just believing without repentance will not do it.
Both is needed, repentance for sins and believing in jesus christ. all other stuff is NOT the gospel.
John Bunyan, in his autobiographical work, spoke of an early season in his life where he struggled, after backsliding, with committing the "Impardonable Sin".
He was tormented, over and over, with very real demonic visits of condemnation, and experienced severe barreness of soul. This went on and on, for over a year anyway.
It happened in a moment, one day. Bunyan determined to find God again, or die. As I remember it, a scripture was illuminated to him, and a baptism of Love overwhelmed him. He was free forever, and then championed Christ Jesus for the rest of his life, leaving us a legacy of brilliant faith, in works like PILGRIMS PROGRESS, and enduring to break out of the religious chains that forbad any free preaching or meeting. [outside the control of the church of England ]
This may have been his greatest legacy, paving the way for modern evangelism.
He spent 17 years in prisons, and his wife and children suffered. He lost the light of his life in this time, his young daughter he cherished so much, who was blind, and adored Bunyan. The point I'm making is that all of his success didn't come cheap. Bunyan needed that singular breakthrough where God revealed Himself as the Sovereign, Loving Provider. Bunyan overcame.
Faith must be singular and alone; it is the Nature of all true faith. You will not stand before the Lord upon the day of your death with any other. You will be alone, to receive the reward of your works; be it by faith or unbelief. You must break through yourself. Man is no help here. Beg God to reveal Himself to you, until He does, and settle for nothing else, even as Bunyan did, no matter the cost.
Read the word, and believe.
"From the ends of the Earth, I will cry out to the Lord, when my heart is overwhelmed!"
I have compassion for you, and pray you will hold up until the Hem of his Garment may pass by you. Reach out until you touch him.
The reason why i am so scared is because God did reveal to me at one time that tChrist was the way and truth and i felt christ in my daily life. I had so much faith in him, but now for the past 2 years i have tried to have faith in christ like i did before but i continue to didbelieve, i will start to believe then a lying spirit comes to decieve like saying stuff like christ never existed, because their our possible mistakes or differences in the gospels how can you trust any of it, maybe the jesus seminar is right, etc. I mean all these crazy thoughts fill my mind and i just want to rest in faith. I sat their in my bed the other night trying to have faith and block out the thoughts and i just couldn't i have been doing that for a long time. I have been praying for over 2 years, see i never doubted like this. This is why i warn anyone do not fall into deep sin because God might not come back and you will let evil presences torture your life like mine.Like i said the only hope i have is that i never was really saved and did not place my faith in christ as saviour of my life but i placed my faith in him as my healer instead, maybe that is why my faith has fell away. I really don't know, i just pray the holy spirit comes.
Alrighty then, display the gospels mistakes here in this forum. There are qualified brethren on this site like KrispyKritter for one who will refute any claims that the gospels have any mistakes.i will start to believe then a lying spirit comes to decieve like saying stuff like christ never existed, because their our possible mistakes or differences in the gospels how can you trust any of it
So bring forth your verses that have the mistakes.
i am not accusing the scriptures of having mistakes from my mouth but from some of the disputes from unbelievers who have pointed them out i use to defend the bible against them and answer them but now the spirits our bringing them up to me and making me go crazy. i don't want to get into the ones i know of but their our some but like i said its not something i really believed before but the spirits our attacking my mind bringing them up saying that is true and it is just chaos in the normal life of john. For me even if their were contradictions in the Bible it stil doesn't take away that Christ came to redeem sinners.
i have a book i am about to read by haley about bible discrepencies or alleged ones.
i actually not decided to read that book anymore because it is only making my doubts come more, so i am now deciding to read a book by john owen about sin and the mortification of it. Brother Tom i am sorry i didn't comment earlier but thank you and god bless you for your prayers and how you were going to continue to pray for me. I ask a request for prayer that God somehow someway reveal to me how much a sinner i am and how much he hates that, i want and need to know how much it offends God that i have sinned against him and I want to be convicted so i can realize the terrible and evil sinner that i really am, maybe that is why i never said that oh Christ saved me of my sins thats why i believe, but i would tell people he heal me of my physical condition and that is why i believe in him. I want to believe for the right reasons so i can see the true worth of the cross.I really don't think it meant much to me before. I want him to mean everything.
Hi John,
Leanne Payne experienced this when God had called her into full time ministry. The poeple who were most against her obedience to God were her close friends, and family. You are not the only one to experience the randomness or extremeness of these kind of attacks, but, you must stop thinking that they might be true. The victory for Christ is that you recognise they are from His enemies, who are intent on distracting, and if possible, destroying you.I mean all these crazy thoughts fill my mind and i just want to rest in faith.
If you are a Christian, then you need to leave behind 'how much a sinner i am'. Jesus said in John 16:9, what offends Him most (apart from blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which would be to call Christ unclean Mark 3:30), and you are teetering on the edge of that with your eyes on something else. You need to 'Stop it' (Paul Washer). Simply, stop your disobedience.
I realise you have to go through this, and find your own victory, but believe me, your victory is in keeping your eyes on Jesus, not on your sin. If you haven't listened to [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=18721]True Salvation: the Righteousness of God in Man[url=http://www.olivetree.com/bible/]olivetree.com
I wonder if it's not that you need to repent in general, but you (if you have not done so), need to get on your face, (and perhaps.... perhaps... fast), and ask God to bring to your mind specific events for which you should repent, receive forgiveness, and FORGET, by leaving them behind forever. This would be one way of removing any lingering footholds of sin. However, there [u]is
The point has to come where you stop being unsavable, and simply accept that Christ died for ALL your sins, and [u]you[u]Nothing
Dear Bible1985
A drowning man cannot be rescued until he at last gives up the struggle to stay afloat. It is at that moment of giving up that the rescuer can then carry him to safety. But not while he is struggling.
God will let you go to as many deliverance ministers that you want to until you finally give up and hand the situation over to Him.
Are you willing to turn it all over to God?
A good cry is in order. You just need to cry your heart out to the LORD and let Him lift you up. Go to your bedroom, flop face down and just start crying, let it out, tell God just how you feel about this whole thing. Stay there until you sense the peace of God. The bible says to "cast our cares on Him for He careth for you".
Can you stretch out your hand by faith and just believe that? I had to.
And Yes there is an end. Let me tell you a story, and for the love of God listen to what I am telling you. We go through these things so we can be a light to others.
I was very much where you were. I told you this before but your not heeding to what I am telling you. You have to believe God for yourself, no one can do it for you. You don't need to FEEL God to know that He loves you, get that in your mind, settle it. You've been around people who are used by the devil to convince you that the word of God is not to be trusted, RUN FROM THEM. If they are your friends, find new one's that will do you some good, better to be lonely than to be in the company of fools. "For the fool hath said in his heart there is no God".
Repeat these words to yourself. I BELIEVE GOD. When the enemy of doubt comes against you, speak these words to them, I BELIEVE GOD. I have told you before but your unwilling to fight. I too was unwilling to fight. It seemed hopeless and pointless, but you have to start some where and I had to learn the hard way.
I seem harsh and I am because that is what you need. If we were to be soft we'd keep playing this game for ever. Your never going to be free from the torment until you take a stand. And we are praying for you, but you have to do your part. Apart of coming into agreement is believing, and believing carries with it the act of doing.
So what if you fail, big deal, we all fail, but we cry out to God again and again and again until we get stronger, because His strength is made perfect in weakness. Isn't that wonderful? Your in a neat place because you think your weak, but He is strong on your behalf.
When you were a baby learning how to walk, you fell many many times, and Mom or Dad was there to pick you up each time. IF EARTHLY PARENTS CAN DO THAT HOW MUCH MORE OUR HEAVENLY FATHER????
Ask the LORD to give you friends that will do you good. He will most likely send you older men and women, don't reject them, they are for your good. In time as you get stronger, He will add friends of our own age group that are like minded.
But you do need to get with a church environment that believes in healing, laying on of hands, deliverance and good solid bible teachings.
Don't think about it, DO IT!
i am willing to turn it over to him.
I understand, words can never fully express the anguish and dread that someone feels over the uncertainty of his eternal destiny. It is like a nightmare that suspends his soul in a paralyzing agony.
Deep in his being is a profound feeling of emptiness, like a dry and barren land haunted by ominous and dark spirits.
There will be times that there are thoughts of just dying, giving-up, or simply forget all these things but where are we to go, we know we can go nowhere except to God_ or else to the vain pursuit of life.
...Psa 102:2 Do not hide your face from me in the day of my distress! Incline your ear to me; answer me speedily in the day when I call!
Psa 102:3 For my days pass away like smoke, and my bones burn like a furnace.
Psa 102:4 My heart is struck down like grass and has withered; I forget to eat my bread.
Psa 102:5 Because of my loud groaning my bones cling to my flesh.
Psa 102:6 I am like a desert owl of the wilderness, like an owl of the waste places;
Psa 102:7 I lie awake; I am like a lonely sparrow on the housetop.
Psa 102:8 All the day my enemies taunt me; those who deride me use my name for a curse.
Psa 102:9 For I eat ashes like bread and mingle tears with my drink,
Psa 102:11 My days are like an evening shadow; I wither away like grass...
Well, what you are passing right now is like_ groping in the dark, in a very bad dream, hold on, pray hard, it will clear-up, it may take time but the Lord will give you strength until this is over.
Like Abraham in his way to an unknown land, just believe in God and with a humble and trusting spirit lay your troubles before Him.
I would like to tell everyone something slightly encouraging. today i went to the forest preserve knowing i was still hardened in faith and i was by myself. I laid out on the ground and began to read my gideons bible at mark ch. 11 verse 13-36, i do not know if it was God telling me to read it or not but that verse popped in my head, i read it and i felt the lord spoke to me through it, and since then i have seen that i once was healed for believing on christ physically but now i feel the lord urging me to believe for the salvation of soul and to be forgiven of my sins. I have asked for his help in that but since then i feel as if i have been given back a measure of faith, not saving faith but i feel he has helped me believe a little more, it is very encouraging for me because i lately have felt so hardened, i have even had anger towards the word of God but today now i want to read it. I just want to be saved but i am praying for him to help me believe. I just wanted to tell you all about this.
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Dear Bible1985,
Today I found this little note I had made to myself, in an old bible I picked up to read. This is what is says:
"Faith does not feed on doubts but on the promises of God."
That's very good. I don't think I'd have understood it, years ago, but now that I know the written word better, and"Faith does not feed on doubts but on the promises of God."