Japan is reeling today and many countries on high tsunami alert! The quake peaked on the rictor scale of 8.9 now that is huge! Buildings shook and waves rose to 7 Metres high. The death toll is expected to be high. 1000 plus is the estimated prediction! Other countries on high tsunami alert advised by authorities to evacuate to higher ground. Hawaii is on very High alert regarding potential tsunami...more to come no doubt brethren. Stay tuned.
fifth largest quake of all time rocks Japan
Some areas could expect a 10 meter Tsunami.....Over 30 feet possible. Hawaii is in the path...and very flat and low to the ocean.....
Wow....and the thing about Earthquakes....is that only God can allow them, or stop them from happening.
Mmm...interesting reply! Yes the latest reports indicate 10 metre Waves. Indeed Prophecy watch is alive and well and ongoing in the world. Several years ago I was inspired of the lord to write an article entitled "the beginning of sorrows" and in spite of criticism I stood my ground. Furthermore prophecy watch is something that serves to confirm the prophesies of Christ. Indeed the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy! Watching footage on our screens or reading newspapers ...or listening to our wireless radios as these major events unfold only confirms what the bible and Jesus already spoke some 2000 years ago. Indeed bible prophesy is history in advance. The scenes unfolding in Japan are scenes of devastation and catastrophe. This is one to watch and follow. Breaking news keeps coming to hand by the minute...as we speak. The quake was allegedly 24 Metres deep - below the surface of the ground.
There was an 6.6 earthquake off Papua New Guinea on 9th March (Wednesday), which has not been much reported, possibly due to little damage? and because it didn't cause a tsunami.
When one thinks of the shipping which will be lost, and low islands overflowed as this tsunami crosses the Pacific, it gives new meaning to 'the sea gave up the dead which were in it'.
Not to mention the prophet Jesus' words "the sea and the waves roaring" underground sea quakes are a new phenomena of the day! And so are inland tsunamis which are the direct result of rapidly rising sea waters and floods. Having said that: the end is not by an by - yet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
Look at #1359 also.
JiG, I went to that website and it's terrible (not the website). I saw this a little bit ago:
1443: Back to Japan now: The official Kyodo news agency is reporting that about 88,000 people are missing.
God have mercy.
I with you Sis. I had to post and run to go run errons with Dad but no matter what or where we went, I couldn't help but carry this same heaviness inside over this tragedy and pray as you've said - for mercy for these poor people. Amen, GOD have mercy.
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I think not. There is much historical evidence they have been happening for centuries. I read a feature a while ago, in New Scientist. I think it's more that we can communicate, and our generation is becoming aware.underground sea quakes are a new phenomena of the day!
Here we go again, Off Axis - as those tons of articles we talked about, was it about two weeks ago?, of events that cause the earth's axis to tilt a bit ...
bbc twitter - 1836: "The power of the earthquake off north-east Japan shifted the earth's axis by nearly 10in (25cm), Earth-issues.com reports, citing the National Institute of Geophysics and Vulcanology. The phenomenon is not unusual for a major quake."
We have another rare event coming up on March 19th called a Super Moon. When the moon's closest to the earth, etc. with talk of waves and such - but we'll see - we've had those before without a whole lot happening.
Here is a useful site for viewing recent earthquakes worldwide:
Jesus-is-GOD noted
I wonder if this is measured at one of the poles? If so, it must represent a tiny fraction of one degree.bbc twitter - 1836: "The power of the earthquake off north-east Japan shifted the earth's axis by nearly 10in (25cm), Earth-issues.com reports, citing the National Institute of Geophysics and Vulcanology. The phenomenon is not unusual for a major quake."
'AT THE POLES
One degree of latitude = 111.69 km or 69.40 mi
One minute of latitude = 1.86 km or 1.16 mi
One second of latitude = 31.03 m or 101.79 ft
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It may have been the 5th largest in the world but according to the media it was THEE greatest earthquake to ever hit JAPAN. The greatest earthquake that ever hit the world, at least according to CNN, was the 9.5 one that hit Chile in 1960.
Im not saying sea quakes have never existed before! Just to clarify the previous point. However that raises an interesting discussion - how much documentation or evidence exists in relation to sea quakes and tsunamis caused by them. We have history books to support most happenings including the biggest flood of all time genesis six! Jesus said that Great earthquakes in divers places would characterize and precede his coming! Expect therefore seismic activity to increase as the coming of the lord draws nigh and as a sign of the end of the age...
Just getting back on again and checked a site that I found to be more exhaustive than the other one I used to look at from the US.
Poor Japan - they've been hit so many times, I haven't counted them yet.
http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/index.php
Well, you know me and my haarp theory. I'll have to go check what the others who share that ct with me have found.
Either way, these poor human beings that He died for.
Praying hard here too.
Everything that can be shaken, will be shaken. It is with the eyes of faith that we look at this sad event in light of faith and eternity. For your consideration, I gave a sermon on this topic, but it was in light of the economic downturn of the last few years. Still, very relevant to what you see going on today:
http://www.iamadisciple.com/sermons/Everything%20That%20Can%20Be%20Shaken.mp3
Chapter 2 Drastic Weather Change and Earthquakes ( The Vision by David Wilkerson, quotes from pages 32 & 33 - Tweleth edition, 1977)
Earthquakes coming to United States
"The United States is going to experience in the not-too-distant future the most tragic earthquakes in its history. One day soon this nation will be reeling under the impact of the biggest news story of modern times. It will be coverage of the biggest most disastrous earthquake in history.
It will cause widespread panic and fear, Without a doubt, it will become one of the most completely reported earthquake ever. Television networks will suspend all programming and carry all day coverage.
ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE, POSSIBLY IN JAPAN, MAY PRECEDE THE ONE THAT I SEE COMING HERE. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind about this forthcoming massive earthquake in our continent.
I am not at all convinced that this earthquake will take place in California. In fact, I believe it is going to take place where it is least expected. This terrible earthquake may happen in an area that not known as an earthquake belt. It will be so high on the Richter scale that it will trigger two other major earthquakes.
News about government scandals, news about war and even economic problems will be completely overshadowed by earthquakes.
The earth is actually going to shake, and there will be numerous other earthquakes in various places throughout the world."
End quote. Emphasis mine.
I can't see youtube's with my server - but I found this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnbpGCrc1zg
David Wilkerson's prophesy, delivered himself.
I have never experienced an earthquake and do not aspire to, either. But I have been told by those that have that it leaves one feeling so helpless. Now, I wonder, what spiritual impact will this event have on the Japanese people?
It's a sad day for Japan, and many web sites already have some prophets rearing their heads,business as usual for some, but we must all be real careful not to let this discourage us, God is still in control.
"When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him." (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)
I am sure there are some modern day prophets, I have never met one, I do know that every prophesy we will ever need to know, is already mentioned in God's word, read it! it's 100% correct.
Get David Wilkerson's book the Vision, it speaks of these days, and they were given in 1973. Then you will have met a modern day prophet.I am sure there are some modern day prophets, I have never met one, I do know that every prophesy we will ever need to know, is already mentioned in God's word, read it! it's 100% correct.
Right JiG! I remember another Apostle of God some years ago said that the reason why the judgment of God would fall on America is because of the acceptance of homosexuality and making it right, because of that, it would come swiftly. That was an excerpt from a nonstop 40 minute prophetic utterance back in 1989. This earthquake the brother Wilkerson mentions could be for that reason.
Pretty scary stuff.
Approve.....Get David Wilkerson's book the Vision, it speaks of these days.
I don't really need his book, my Bible speaks of all of them.
Thanks!
Chapter 2 Drastic Weather Change and Earthquakes ( The Vision by David Wilkerson, quotes from pages 32 & 33 - Tweleth edition, 1977)
In the 2003 release of the book "The Vision and Beyond" (containing the complete text from "The Vision" with chapters 7 & 8 added) those excerpts are on pages 28 & 29.
Job 12:15 Behold, He holds back the waters, and they dry up; and He sends them out, and they overflow the earth.
Job 12:15. God has the command of the waters, binds them as in a garment (Prov.30:4), holds them in the hollow of his hand (Isa.40:12); and he can punish the children of men either by the defect or by the excess of them. MH
Psa 29:3,10 The voice of the LORD is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the LORD is upon many waters. The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.
Over this terrible raging of the elements God is enthroned, directing and restraining by sovereign power; and hence the comfort of His people. “This awful God is ours, our Father and our Love.” JFB
Amo 3:6 If a ram's horn is blowing in a city, will the people not also tremble? If there is a calamity in a city, has the LORD not even done it?
Amos 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:
The idea that by the waters of the sea, which pour themselves out at the call of God over the surface of the earth, we are to understand the moisture which rises from the sea and then falls upon the earth as rain, no more answers to the words themselves, than the idea expressed by Hitzig, that they refer to the water of the rivers and brooks, which flow out of the sea as well as into it (Ecc.1:7). The words suggest the thought of terrible inundations of the earth by the swelling of the sea, and the allusion to the judgment of the flood can hardly be overlooked. K&D
Re: "The Vision" by David Wilkerson,published in Feb. 1974
Quote, "I am not preaching now; I am prophesying." pg.68
Quote, "I see great riots coming to many major cities in South American. In the next decade, South America will become a powder keg, exploding in all directions." pg.26,27
Quote, "Nature will unleash its fury with increasing intensity over the next decade. There will be short periods of relief, but almost every day mankind will witness the wrath of nature somewhere in the world. Those record-breaking changes will be above and beyond anything experienced in the past." pg.36
Quote, "The drastic weather changes that are coming in the next decade will bring with them violent hailstorms of unbelievable proportions. Large chunks of ice will fall from the sky and cause much damage. The storms will not only destroy crops and smash automobiles, but they will also cause the death of many people." pg. 39
Quote, "Floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and hailstorms will occur more frequently. More than one-third of the United States will be designated a disaster area within the next few years." pg. 35
Quote, "In spite of all the danger signs around us of impending economic disaster, the next few years will be among the most prosperous in the history of mankind."
pg. 16
I for one will not put any confidence in, nor be afraid of, any false prophet nor prophecies of such.
Deut. 18:22 "How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken? That which the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord and the word does not happen nor come about, that is the word which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it in presumption; you shall not be afraid of him."
1 Cor. 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."
1 Cor. 14:37 "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."
Matt. 4:10 "Then Jesus said to him, "Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him alone you shall serve.' "
Bless God
Awesome post savannah, Thanks!
Read your Bible these happenings like in Japan are Biblical. The Bible gives us the truth about what is really happening, it says that Angels are even now restraining the winds of strife, that they may not blow until the world shall be warned of its coming doom. But there is a storm is gathering, ready to burst upon the earth; and when God shall tell His angels loose the winds, there will be a scene of strife that no pen can picture. I just wrote this, God said it! I am sure David Wilkerson is sincere in his visions/prophesy's, but all the visions and prophesy's you will ever need are in the word of God, the wording is just different.
This posting has continued to gain momentum. And has taken many twists already! Personally I like the comments about gathering storm and restrained winds. Not that these brethren need any approval or endorsement from me. God willing I hope to release an article (post) I've been sitting on for quite some time. Lets see what the lord says. The scenes of devastation In Japan have not (and i repeat have not) been seen since the 2004 tsunami.
Compared to the Christchurch, New Zealand quake recently, this Japanese one was 8000 times more powerful. This is stunning, beyond imagination.
As I write, the Nuclear reactors are nearing a possible meltdown. IF...the meltdown meets the worst possible fears...and melts into the water supply....deadly radioactive steam and gasses could spew into the atmosphere....and people cannot live without fresh water.
Revelation 8:10-12 (New King James Version)
Third Trumpet: The Waters Struck
10 Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
11 The name of the star is WORMWOOD.
A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.
WORMWOOD IS TRANSLATED......CHERNOBYL.
Hi Brothertom,
Please could you explain this a fraction more? Do you mean that 'Chernobyl' literally means 'wormwood' when brought into English?WORMWOOD IS TRANSLATED......CHERNOBYL.
Thank you.
A Prayer for Japan
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Mar 12, 2011 01:30 am | by John Piper
The scenes of the tsunami in Japan are apocalyptic:
The power of moving water is greater than most of us can imagine. Nothing stands before it. We are driven to our knees:
Father in heaven, you are the absolute Sovereign over the shaking of the earth, the rising of the sea, and the raging of the waves. We tremble at your power and bow before your unsearchable judgments and inscrutable ways. We cover our faces and kiss your omnipotent hand. We fall helpless to the floor in prayer and feel how fragile the very ground is beneath our knees.
O God, we humble ourselves under your holy majesty and repent. In a moment—in the twinkling of an eye—we too could be swept away. We are not more deserving of firm ground than our fellowmen in Japan. We too are flesh. We have bodies and homes and cars and family and precious places. We know that if we were treated according to our sins, who could stand? All of it would be gone in a moment. So in this dark hour we turn against our sins, not against you.
And we cry for mercy for Japan. Mercy, Father. Not for what they or we deserve. But mercy.
Have you not encouraged us in this? Have we not heard a hundred times in your Word the riches of your kindness, forbearance, and patience? Do you not a thousand times withhold your judgments, leading your rebellious world toward repentance? Yes, Lord. For your ways are not our ways, and your thoughts are not our thoughts.
Grant, O God, that the wicked will forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts. Grant us, your sinful creatures, to return to you, that you may have compassion. For surely you will abundantly pardon. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus, your beloved Son, will be saved.
May every heart-breaking loss—millions upon millions of losses—be healed by the wounded hands of the risen Christ. You are not unacquainted with your creatures' pain. You did not spare your own Son, but gave him up for us all.
In Jesus you tasted loss. In Jesus you shared the overwhelming flood of our sorrows and suffering. In Jesus you are a sympathetic Priest in the midst of our pain.
Deal tenderly now, Father, with this fragile people. Woo them. Win them. Save them.
And may the floods they so much dread make blessings break upon their head.
O let them not judge you with feeble sense, but trust you for your grace. And so behind this providence, soon find a smiling face.
In Jesus’ merciful name, Amen.
Hmmm....
Quote, "I see great riots coming to many major cities in South American. In the next decade, South America will become a powder keg, exploding in all directions." pg.26,27Quote, "Nature will unleash its fury with increasing intensity over the next decade. There will be short periods of relief, but almost every day mankind will witness the wrath of nature somewhere in the world. Those record-breaking changes will be above and beyond anything experienced in the past." pg.36
Quote, "The drastic weather changes that are coming in the next decade will bring with them violent hailstorms of unbelievable proportions. Large chunks of ice will fall from the sky and cause much damage. The storms will not only destroy crops and smash automobiles, but they will also cause the death of many people." pg. 39
Quote, "Floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and hailstorms will occur more frequently. More than one-third of the United States will be designated a disaster area within the next few years." pg. 35
I have never heard of violent hailstorms or huge chunks of ice falling from the sky since 1973...
Nor have I heard of SA becoming a power keg exploding...
Neither have I heard that 1/3 of the USA being designated a disaster area with a few years from 1973...
Approved informed us this book, "The Vision", was written in 1973, 38 years ago. Over three decades have passed since then....
by ginnyrose...I have never heard of violent hailstorms or huge chunks of ice falling from the sky since 1973... Nor have I heard of SA becoming a power keg exploding... Neither have I heard that 1/3 of the USA being designated a disaster area with a few years from 1973... Approved informed us this book, "The Vision", was written in 1973, 38 years ago. Over three decades have passed since then....
Amen! ginny...With all due respect, to all the Prophets, Authors, Pastors, Visionaries of today, there is really nothing you have told us that the word of God hasn't, for that to happen you would have to know more than God.
David Wilkerson preached this in the Solomon Church in December of 1994, "Right now I sense in my spirit that in less than 5 years there will be no more so-called gospel television networks. They will all fall into bankruptcy and absolute ruin."(Solomon Church Dec. 12, 1994)
My guess is as these tragedies like Japan/9-11 etc. become more of a day to day occurrence, which it's beginning to look that way now, we all will really need to pray that our cups will runneth over with discernment, or we might be literally scared to death, then none of the Prophesies will matter.
The writers of the NT often used the words "soon" regarding the events that they saw were going to come upon the earth in the last days.
As savannah believes that all the events of the "last days" have already taken place, due to those words in our NT, such as "soon" and that 'he' believes that Nero was the antiChrist --- I find it a bit uncanny that he would tell David Wilkerson to "get behind me Satan".
I would just say - give it some time.
If Paul, Peter and John could think that those things that are coming would happen "soon" in their time - I give David some breaks as well with his timing --- and don't you think that we should as well? Who is David, compared to the Apostles with their "timing"?
Sigh.
O God, we humble ourselves under your holy majesty and repent. In a moment—in the twinkling of an eye—we too could be swept away. We are not more deserving of firm ground than our fellowmen in Japan. We too are flesh. We have bodies and homes and cars and family and precious places. We know that if we were treated according to our sins, who could stand? All of it would be gone in a moment. So in this dark hour we turn against our sins, not against you.And we cry for mercy for Japan. Mercy, Father. Not for what they or we deserve. But mercy....
In Jesus’ merciful name,...
Amen. Thank you, mama27, for sharing this.
If Paul, Peter and John could think that those things that are coming would happen "soon" in their time - I give David some breaks as well with his timing --- and don't you think that we should as well? Who is David, compared to the Apostles with their "timing"?
I agree...
Jesus-is-GOD......The writers of the NT often used the words "soon" regarding the events that they saw were going to come upon the earth in the last days.
It appears that we are discussing prophets in only a theological sense. In the secular sense, I agree that there are modern day visionaries who by acutely watching trends of culture, nature and economics can "prophesize" what events are most likely to occur in the future. But for theological prophets, I cannot believe there to be any until the very end of days, which I believe to be further into the future then we can even imagine.
AtG and JiG I think you'll like this link regarding earthquakes. The fellow demonstrating this computer graphic imaging of the last 7 days of earthquakes activity and intensity is not a Christian, but he is telling people to store up food and water for 30 days just in case. In another thread David Wilkerson had said that that was something that he was telling his fellow Americans to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hG87v9-ROfw&gl=CA
Hebrews 1:1-3
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, (I take this to mean that since we have the Words of God Himself through His mortal Son, there is simply no need for further prophecy. What has been needed to be taught has been taught by Jesus, the Son of Man as well as the Son of God. There is simply no other need for future prophets.)
Hi Brothertom,
"WORMWOOD IS TRANSLATED......CHERNOBYL"
"Please could you explain this a fraction more? Do you mean that 'Chernobyl' literally means 'wormwood' when brought into English?"
Alive to God.
Here is an article that does this justice, I think. Chernobyl is a Russian word that also means wormwood.
JAMES C. MORRIS WRITES:
"Only one of the many apocalyptic events described in Revelation was assigned a proper noun as a name (an obscure name at that).
The facts indicate that Chernobyl is an accurate translation for the term Wormwood, as used in the third trumpet prophecy of Revelation, regardless of whether one translates from original manuscripts or English language texts. Counter-arguments claiming Chernobyl isn't a good translation fail when subjected to scrutiny.
One question needing to be answered though is: What are the odds that an obscure name used in the Bible just happens to match the name of the city where one of the worst man-made disasters in history occurred? The odds of a mere coincidence would seem to be, mathematically speaking, extremely remote.
A more substantive counter-argument is that the Chernobyl disaster doesn't fit the description given of the third trumpet prophecy. That argument loses merit though when one examines the passage critically. Although often interpreted as a literal star, asteroid or comet falling to earth, it's worth considering that the later fifth trumpet "star" is an obvious figurative star, thereby lending further credence to Chernobyl as the third trumpet prophecy.
15) As with English, both the Greek and Aramaic words for star have multiple meanings.
16) The Greek word ἀστήρ means not only star and famous, but also strewn over the sky - fitting terminology for the Chernobyl explosion and radioactive fallout which heavily contaminated thousands of square miles of land in the Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, much of which will be uninhabitable for thousands of years.
17) An ever-increasing body of evidence suggests that the New Testament may have been originally written in Aramaic (i.e., the language Mel Gibson used in "Passion of the Christ") rather than Greek. The Aramaic word for star, kwkb, can be both noun and verb - for example, to be made a star, an interesting association since that definition applies literally to what happened at Chernobyl.
Wormwood is one of the important clues in Revelation. It stands uniquely alone among the events of Revelation in that it was given a name. Though perhaps not a unique name, the unarguable fact is that the name Wormwood is one which is rarely used. Adding further unique identification is the fact that it is a proper noun rather than a common noun.
Ultimately, one needs to form one's own conclusion as to whether Chernobyl fits the prophecy of Revelation. For me, the book of Revelation took on new meaning when viewed from a 20th/21st century perspective. "
Christianforums.com
I happed across this page, where if you're on Facebook, you can leave a prayer for Japan.
Hi Brothertom,
Thanks for the further information, which has become even more topical this very day.
It is easy to find online that the plant whose colloquial name translates to Wormwood, does actually grow at Chernobyl.
I was interested in the connection to the word 'star', and found out there is a blue glow from radioactive material which was researched by a scientist called Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, (or Cerenkov), for which he won the Nobel Prize.
Since Tokyo tap-water is now contaminated with radiation, the link between wormwood and water seems more obvious.
Revelation 8:11\t And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
Other 'wormwood' verses (KJV)
Deuteronomy 29:18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go [and] serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;
{gall: or, a poisonous herb}
Proverbs 5:4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
Jeremiah 9:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will feed them, [even] this people, with wormwood, and give them water of gall to drink.
Jeremiah 23:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.
{profaneness: or, hypocrisy}
Lamentations 3:15 He hath filled me with bitterness, he hath made me drunken with wormwood.
{bitterness: Heb. bitternesses}
Lamentations 3:19 Remembering mine affliction and my misery, the wormwood and the gall. {Remembering: or, Remember}
Amos 5:7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth,
Please note the first line of the third last verse of the hymn, 'All hail the power of Jesu's Name'. (The reference to 'Gentile' fits with the previous, proper acclamation of the Messiah born of David's line, in vv 4, 5 and 6.)
'Ye Gentile sinners ne’er forget the wormwood and the gall,
Go spread your trophies at His feet, and crown Him Lord of all.'
Matthew 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted [thereof], he would not drink.
Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Exodus 15: 23 And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they [were] bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah.
{Marah: that is Bitterness}
24 And the people murmured against Moses, saying, What shall we drink?
25 And he cried unto the LORD; and the LORD shewed him a tree, [which] when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet:
Amen.
Let's read this book in context and not spiritualize it nor stretch it out of proportion ...
First we see the 6 Seals opened and what occurs with each seal.
We have Yet to see All that occurs with the 6 Seals.
After the first 6 of the Seals occur, we see the 7th Seal brings us the angels that are given the 7 Trumpets -
8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal,
there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God;
and to them were given seven trumpets.
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
The First Trumpet -
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth:
and the third part of trees was burnt up,
and all green grass was burnt up.
The Second Trumpet -
Rev 8:8-11 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea:
and the third part of the sea became blood;
And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died;
and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
Third Trumpet -
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
Can we see how much happens with this Second Trumpet? "A Third Part" World Wide.
So if we read the events that follow the 7 Seals First and then the 7 Trumpets, we've yet to see all that occurs with even just the Seals to take place, nonetheless the Trumpets begin.
I only say this because we need to go back to the Seals and see which if any of those have occured.
I only see the possibility of only the first Seal having been opened. The white global conquest horse. As in NWO.
*The Red and then Black and then Pale/Green horses have not been experienced in most of the free world.
That's an indicator that they have not yet been loosed.
When the red horse is loosed - we will see war in this country as well.
When the black horse is loosed - we will see Inflation like we've never thought possible.
When the pale/green horse is loosed - we will see death in this country like we never ever have seen before.
And the 4 horsemen only cover the First 4 Seals.
It's Very Important to notice how John starts almost Every Sentence in the Revelation with the conjunction "AND" and from Chapter to Chapter - most continue on with "AND", which makes his sentences chronological. Few chronological skips in that book. Written for a ten year old to read as literally as a child would - except for any Obvious Symbology.
The other most important thing to note from the Revelation is that All of these events will be World Wide.
I'm not trying to be critical - but if we think we're already to the 3rd Trumpet, when we haven't even seen the 2nd Seal --- we'll surely be SHOCKED (to say the least) when we have to live through the actual descriptions of each event (7 Seals first and then the Trumps) after we had thought we lived through That Much already through Japan or whatever else that has happened anywhere else on earth, on only a local scale.
In other words All Heck is going to break-out World Wide with each Seal and Trumpet and I just pray to GOD that we're not shocked because we thought we'd already lived through all of the Seals & now 2 Trumps, when the Beginning of Sorrows has Only Just Begun.
We'll likely see persecution just around the corner if you follow Jesus' chronological statements in Mattew 24:7-9.
With much Love in Christ Jesus our LORD!
This is a conversation between those of us who are Not Preterists.
I wanted to explain to my Friends, that when I mentioned the "10 yr old" that I meant it as a "Glory to GOD" for His excellent Kindness to us, in that He'd never write the most important Book of 'our' generation for us to not understand clearly ... Because it's That Important.
I've given my life to this and He has only shown His Fatherly Love in all that He's written through the one Apostle who was most known for his excellent heart of GOD's Love.
John was chosen based upon the great understanding of the revelation of GOD's Love. "The disciple who Jesus Loved."
Getting back to the order of the Seals and Trumpets --- Above we saw that the 7th Seal also brings 7 Trumpets to seven Angels.
So we should see that by all of the conjunctions in the Revelation ("And") that John is telling it in order & chronologically - with very few exceptions. Just casually let the pages flip and see how many sentences begin with "And" - it's Amazing! and shows us that there weren't even any punctuation marks in the Greek original - making this book, one that has the longest Running Sentences of any Book in our Bible.
So, if the 7th Seal brings on the 7 Angels with the 7 Trumpets - then we need to go back and see what these Seals release before we can even look at the 7 Trumpets. (As we noted that, the "wormwood" passages are following after these Seals and is the 3rd Trumpet.)
According to the Chpts given already - the Seals precede the Trumpets.
Let's just look at the 6th Seal and see if these things have taken place yet ---
Rev 6:12-17 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: for the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Oh very sad that earthquake come in japan.
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Clintonsmith - you don't CARE about anyone!
You are feelingless, cold and dead inside.
My friend I do care about Japan. I lead a con call for the persecuted church. Our intercessors wept and prayed over the lost in Japan. We do care. Blaine
Brother Martyr, I know that's true.
Only GOD truly knows how we feel and what we do about it all.
GOD Bless you!
Martyr, you confuse me!
Clintonsmith replied to Jesus-is-God, she responded and then you responded as though it was addressed to you! Are you and Clinton the one and same person?
Martyr, you confuse me!
Clintonsmith replied to Jesus-is-God, she responded and then you responded as though it was addressed to you! Are you and Clinton the one and same person?
hahaha way to be straightforward... I was thinking the same thing!
Sorry sister. Got lost in the thread. Just letting you know that some of us do ache and prayover the tragedy in Japan. Also still learning how to navigate these threads. Forgive me for jumping in the middle of the discussion without going to the front of the thread. I think I just learned how to do that. I apologize for the confusion.
get that malware, phishing link off this forum, you son of the devil!
marytr, i sure hope you aint playing cyber games with this forum.
Have I offended you in sone way? I am a believer who prays for the lost and the persecuted. That includes Japan. Why the ugly remark. It is not in keeping with the spirit of Eph.4:29-30
my apologies as it seemed you responded to a rebuke the poster "CLINTONSMITH" was given. this poster only had 1 post and attached a dubious link, please forgive me, as i thought you might be using two "handles".
i'm verry sorry and hope the moderators remove this poster's link.
neil
Brother Natan4Jesus I love your heart. I apologize to you for over reacting. Seens like the enemy is creating disunity among the true saints. My deepest apologies and God's richest blessings to you. Blaine aka Martyr
There's an item in yahoo news today, about a light which was seen pulsing (video links included) when the 7.1 (?) aftershock hit last Thursday (two days ago).
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/38/20110408/tsc-mysterious-light-spotted-during-japa-98fda55.html
Hi Alive-to-God,
There have been occurrences of a blue light coming from the power plant. They said it was radiation. I forget exactly the term used but it's not a good thing.
It can only be by God's power that this can end well for Japan and the World. Man has really made a big mess.
ws
Hi White_Stone,
Thanks for your comment.
Earlier in the thread, following a lead from Brothertom, I looked up Chernobyl and the possibility of light coming from radio-active sources. I found out this (posted on p4),
'I was interested in the connection to the word 'star', and found out there is a blue glow from radioactive material which was researched by a scientist called Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, (or Cerenkov), for which he won the Nobel Prize.'
That being so, might it be disingenuous of scientists to say they don't 'know' what caused the light on that day?
One thought I had in mitigation, is that God may have done something in answer to prayer, which made what was seen that day, truly unusual.
The collision of matter and anti-matter causes light. Maybe this could explain 'earthquake lights' in non-nuclear situations. We may never know, though.
It can only be by God's power that this can end well for Japan and the World. Man has really made a big mess.
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