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Kings of king visiting earth this weekend!!!

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paula4jc


If you're sick at home or in hospital just listen to - http://www.jesusislordradio.info/, Sept. 16 - 18th. Every disease under the sun is going be heal when the Lord the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob opens heaven and rain down the Holy Spirit this weekend.

It'll be the largest and most glorious visitation the earth has ever seen!

The mighty outstretched arm of the Lord will heal in all four corners of the earth. Every nations and tribes will be listening via radio, computer, and cell phone.

This is the endtime revival. Let those with an ear hear and repent! Without holiness no one will see God!!!

Jesus Christ the Messiah is Coming!!! Alleluia!

Prepare the way
Isaiah 40:3

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Matthew 24:23-25 - "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There He is!' do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand."

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We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,


Friend don't be quick to attribue the work of the Spirit to the devil. First, examining in devine wisdom.

Perhaps, the West needs to humble themsleve else they will not enter becasue they are looking for blond and blue eyes prophet.

Israel was chosen becasue they were nobody. Africa is the scum of the earth by the West.

I bring this news to you in love. May the Lord excuse your ignorace.

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after this weekend i welcome you Paula4jc back here to discuss your faith. I hope you will not be disappointed and greatly discouraged by what some man or woman has told. The bible certainly hasn't revealed this proclamation to you. Come back and lets talk after the weekend. God bless you and keep you.

Lloyd

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Another false prophet setting dates, just like whatshisname? What shameful silliness.

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mguldner

No one knows the day or hour, not even the Son...

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Renouncer and Lloyd have strong points, Paula. We all need to pray for discernment these days, more than ever, and most of our discernment comes from His Word.
"Jesus Christ the same, yesterday, today and forever."
He doesn't just show up in power for just three days. His power is ever present and He will heal whomever He chooses, whether through the gifts or by Himself alone, anytime. No where in His Word does He say that He will only show up in power for just a few days.
We will need to be found in Him and need His power everyday to get through the days ahead and faithful unto the end.
There is much going on this month and many are being swayed in several different directions because of these events. Please go to His Word and pray for Him to speak through it, about Himself. He said "Behold, I have told you all things", regarding these days and a three day special visitation isn't how He operates, nor does He need radio or whatever else type of technology to move. The last verses in Joel 2 are not by technology and not just for a limited amount of days or dependent on certain humans only to perform it.
His Love and all of His Best for you.


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I have diabetes... I am so looking forward to have a hot fudge sundae this weekend after God visits the earth and heals everyone!

C'mon... why are people so easily deceived?

Krispy

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Paulajc

For your work in posting your message to us, please come back on Monday and give us a report of what you see God doing in healing. Don't do a drive by hit and run on the results because that is a natural human thing to do, if a person is wrong. Stick up for what you believe in and comeback and give us a report.

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Will this begin on my weekend or yours? I'll let you guys know from the future how it pans out.

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Mat 24:23-26
"Then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, There! Do not believe it.
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders; so much so that, if it were possible, they would deceive even the elect.
Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Therefore if they shall say to you, Behold, He is in the desert! Do not go out. Behold, He is in the secret rooms! Do not believe it."

Jesus did not visit Peter, John, on their rooms or on their churches, after He gone to Heaven if it does not lead you to holiness, beware.

see this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsaINMpnvww

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Before the meeting the prophet announced on the radio that the Lord told him it would rain at the meeting - heaven open and the Holy Spirit came in the form of rain. go look at the live broadcast over 20 millions in their Sunday best all worshipping in the Holy Spirit rain. All nation need to humble themsleves and take heed.

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Weatherman told me it would rain the other day and you know what? He was correct perhaps the Lord told him that? All meterologist are prophets? I don't mean to mock but anyone can look on the nation weathers website and see what the weather is going to do and predict what's going to happen.

I suppose we will see this weekend eh? Brother Everestsama, has it happened in Japan? I mean its already Saturday night there.

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Paula, in order for everyone to be healed of diseases on a mass scale like that the Church of Jesus Christ would have to be equipped with the gifts of the Spirit and that is not going to be done in a weekend, that is out of God's character to perform such an act. The Holy Spirit works through His body to perform the miraculous.

Jesus was one man on the earth, but He told His disciples that they would do greater works because He was going to the Father, which means that He would shed His flesh that was hindering Him from doing a greater work in and through His people. More people to whom the Holy Ghost can work through meant more opportunity to minister and heal.

God works through His body Jesus Christ to whom we are all apart. We all have giftings and callings some of those gifts are instantedly given others are desired and sought for. Callings can be instant while others are given later on the journey.

One of the most important truths that you need to learn in your walk and I hope you can allow this to be absorbed into your thinking and that is, God is not in a hurry to get things done.

We are and we think that because of the way the world is going we think that God is moving faster and hurrying to make sure everyone gets saved as if He was on some time clock. God is not!

There have been many earthquakes in the ages past and killed many and devasted cities and lives.

I mentioned this in another post that in 1896 that was over 100 years ago and in the same spot an earthquake and Tsunami hit the japenese coast and killed 26,000 people.

A few years later in 1906 the illustrious city of San Francisco was totally leveled by a deadly earthquake.

I do not doubt that such an earthquake will come to the eastern part of the United States or any part of it. David Wilkerson prophecied that an earthquake would occur in the United States that is not known as having any earthquakes. But he didn't mention where. It was wise of him to not mention dates, times and where.

Be careful and be not deceived, for some of us have travelled that road your on now, it's our advice that you repent and shake yourself from this man that sets times and dates which is unscriptural.

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I still have a cold, so it hasn't happened yet.

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"C'mon... why are people so easily deceived?" -KrispyKrittr

Because they loved not the truth.

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mguldner

Perhaps tomorrow or perhaps our Lord will be late? OH or my personal favorite a hidden return. Though all of these are contrary to scriptures I suppose we can only hope, I am tired of these old bag of bones I call a body.

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paula4jc

Praise the Lord the Kissi meeting in Kenya has ended. It was mighty and glorious. Kenya is blessed. I pray they will live up to the standard of holiness, so all nations can immitate them.

Truly, time is over, the entime rivival has come and those who are counted for Jesus must put on righteousness. Everyone the hour has come for the wedding of the Lamb remove all spots and winkles from your gowns. Without holiness no one will see God.

America your hour of judgement has come. Let us put on sock cloth and humble before the Lord that He may send His prophet here and the revival may reach this land.

Those who miss the Kissi visitation my see it at the below youtube channel. There are many meetinga at the channel, but Kissi was this weekend.


repentancechannel

Let those with an ear hear and repent.

blessings

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JesusIsMyLrd

I can't believe this.....

Why would He be so cruel as to not allow me to be a part of it, since i'm down in Haiti, and our internet wasn't working????

By the way, Greetings to all from Haiti! :)

Haven't been on SI for a while, and it's a blessing to be able to be back :)

God bless!!

-nathan

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ginnyrose

"Every disease under the sun is going be heal when the Lord the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob opens heaven and rain down the Holy Spirit this weekend."

I did not hear a word of this happening this PAST weekend. My body is still ageing - Krispy, you still have diabetes?


"Jesus Christ the Messiah is Coming!"

I did not see him come - did anyone else? Scripture tells me that when He comes every eye shall see him...and I didn't.

Methinks God does not need electronic technology to assure that every eye will see him. :-)

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Ginny... funny thing happened this weekend! I was completely healed of diabetes!! I ate some food and my blood sugar never rose above normal levels!

Oh... wait... did I mention I took my normal injection of insulin just beforehand?

So nevermind. I wasnt healed.

I have a question for Paula... what in the world is "sock cloth" anyway? I aint putting on anyone's dirty socks!

Krispy

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1 of 13 videos, judge for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My5318tpYP0

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So nevermind. I wasnt healed.

I'm sorry, Krispy. Major bummer! ;)

I have a question for Paula... what in the world is "sock cloth" anyway? I aint putting on anyone's dirty socks!

It cracked me up, too, when I saw how she spelled it. Paula, would you elaborate on "sock-cloth"? XD
Just teasin' ya Paula!

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I dont need to waste my time watching YouTube videos of this hoax...

I can tell you straight up it's false.

What we need is true spiritual revival, no more of this "everyone is going to be healed and rich" garbage.

Jesus did not heal everyone when He walked to earth.

I know we're mocking, but frankly these types of prophets are no different than the prophets of Baal... and deserve to be mocked.

Krispy

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This is appalling. I'm not speaking of the orginal post, but to the people that are not being of God here. I don't agree with her at all, but this making fun of her, how is that going to show her the truth? Where is the love?

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Bro I have a question for you. Do you even believe in healing? Do you believe that God still heals today? Do you believe that he still manifest himself in signs and wonders, dreams and visions? You a cessionist bro?

Blaine

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I am afraid love is not something that prevails in this forum.

Blaine

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Love is not blind.

Love is full of truth, but it is full of grace too!Jn 1:14

So meny people are cought up in this stuff let us pray for them.

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1 Corithians 8:1
Knowledge puffs up but love builds up.

Blaine

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Yeah, we should have some grace here and throw the ravenous wolves a little meat...

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Paula,

Clearly your prophet lied to you. Not every disease was healed in the four corners of the earth. Not everyone in the earth was listening on radio etc. A lying prophet is not from God. Read your bible, repent and seek Him in His word, through the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit was given at Pentacost 2000 years ago and does not need to be given in that way again. If you want to experience the Holy Spirit then read teh word and believe it and obey God and He will speak into your life with a still small voice. Don't look for more, it won't be from God but from men who are looking to take advantage of you.

HOW MUCH DID IT COST YOU TO ATTEND THE MEETING OR HOW MUCH DOES THE LEADER SAY HE NEEDS FOR HIS MINISTRY TO SURVIVE.

Lloyd

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There is a place for mocking and a place for grace. Of course we want her to come to Christ and leave this foolishness behind. There is no doubt about it. And thats the love part. Sometimes love has to be tough, and not all squishy.

Several of the OT prophets mocked the false religions of their day. So did Jesus!

We can not be soft of false doctrines. We have tried that for about 5 decades... and everyday those of you who are right now crying foul on me come here and complain about the sad shape of the modern church. Well, ever wonder why the church is in the shape it's in??

It's because we've been too soft on false doctrines and false prophets.

No, I say it's time to play hard ball with those who would bring this garbage into the house of God and take a stand for truth, holiness and righteousness.

Krispy

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I agree Krispy. Quite frankly I'm surprised that this sort of rubbish is even the slightest bit tolerated on these boards.

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John 8:7
If any of you is without sin, let him be the FIRST to throw a stone at her.

2 Corithians 13:5
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves.


By her own testimony on another thread the sister has been to China twice to share the gospel. She has gone on her own. Those of you sitting in judgement what have you done lately for Christ? I mean what have you done to advance his kingdom purposes.

Personally I don'r think I would have the courage to go to a restricted nation and do what this sister did and we judge her because of what she posted. Alright it may have been out of line with our theology. But as I recall the good sanaritan had flakey theology and yet he practiced the second great commandment.

Revival is occurring in parts of the world whose theology is not Calvinistic. God is using people who are the most unlikely candidates to spread his gospel. He is looking.for hearts who are committed to him. Not heads full of theology.

Franky I woukd like to meet Sister Paula and hear more of her experiences in China. For all I know God's hand is on her and she is used of him in incredible says to advance his kingdom purposes.

Anyone heard of The Heavenly Man. Anyone knoe who Brother Yun is. Probably not. He is not a Calvinist. If you can put your stones down get the book and read it. You might be surprised at the nobodies that God is using to advance his kingdom. If I remember Peter and John were unschooked ordinary men who had been with Jesus.

Blaine

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It's not a works campaign. I can give you a list of plenty of people who have done even "greater" things supposedly for the gospel, or for whatever other reason they did them. Doesn't mean a thing.

This is not a difference concerning doctrine. This is outright heresy, prophesying Jesus Christ's return (which didn't happen in case for some reason there's any doubt whatsoever). Jesus referred to such as ravenous wolves. If that's a bit too "ungraceful" you'll have to take it up with Him about His choice of wording.

And is this was the sort of message being spread in China, China was better left well alone. East Asia already has it's fair share of heresy. Trust me. I know.

For the record, I'm also not a Calvinist.

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As I recall Richard Wormbrandt had some rather off the wall experiences while in prison for Christ. I mean things like angelic visitations and so forth. Things that don't fit into our theological mindsets. Anyone want to stone this brother?

Blaine

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You're telling me not to judge while you question whether I've done anything lately to advance the kingdom? Isnt that just a tad hypocritical since you know nothing about me? You judge me while telling me not to judge? Seriously?

As far as your hatred of Calvinism... why did you even bring that up? I didn't. It has nothing to do with this conversation.

God did not have a visitation on this earth this past weekend. Mass numbers were not healed... if they were... proove it. Show me. (hint: no one can because it did not happen)

Satan is the father of all lies.

Now, I will confess that I can not sit in judgement as to whether this woman is saved. I was wrong to suggest that. At the same time, if someone espouses doctrine that is completely false it is a fair assessment to say that they do not know the God of the Bible.

As for her "good works" in China, I commend her. At the same time, Mother Teresa performed "good works" in India... and just as the Bible says... all her "good works" did not save her soul. Trusting in Cathocism she died in her sins. How sad.

Krispy

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As I recall Richard Wormbrandt had some rather off the wall experiences while in prison for Christ. I mean things like angelic visitations and so forth. Things that don't fit into our theological mindsets. Anyone want to stone this brother?

Apples to oranges... angelic visitations in prison are Biblical. We can read about them in the Bible.

Krispy

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Angelic visitations are New Testament, I don't have a problem with that. Prophesying the exact date of Christ's return is also New Testament. Except the New Testament doesn't agree with it, thus neither do I.

What Krispy said is true, all the missions campaigns and good works that you can think of mean nothing if you're presenting a bogus Christ. That's what the Momon's and JW's are doing here as well. Presenting Jesus with their whole heart. However the Jesus they're presenting never existed, and has no power to save or change lives.

Spirit AND truth. Inseparable.

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Sigh! I am ever so relieved to know that the truth watchers are on guard. I bow out. Have at it gentlemen. By the way I believe Mother Theresa was saved.

Blaine

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Sigh! I am ever so relieved to know that the truth watchers are on guard. I bow out. Have at it gentlemen. By the way I believe Mother Theresa was saved.

I expect to be mocked by unregenerate people when I stand for the truth of the Word of God... but I admit I am always amazed when I am mocked by believers for it.

But then again, ask any street preacher who gets mocked... and they will tell you: a lot of mocking comes from Christians.

If you think Mother Teresa was saved you should read her own words at the end of her life. It was very sad indeed. Perhaps she was saved in the last seconds or minutes of her life, we cant know. But up to the very end her faith was in the Catholic Church and Mary... not in Christ. And thats a fact. She was the epitome of trying to earn your way into heaven... and falling short.

Krispy

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I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic.
-Mother Teresa

She certainly was doing a work in India. Though by her own confession not solely for Jesus Christ (or technically for Him at all). One of the most vile "missions" statements I've ever heard.

It wasn't the fact that Jesus was doing good deeds that people wanted to kill Him. It's because of the truth that He spoke.

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Matthew 7:21-23 contains the saddest words in the whole Bible,IMHO.

Matthew 7:21,22: NASB
21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’

23“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

Too many times we look at ministries and judge their worthiness based upon their 'ministry', how well they have preached, how well they have helped the unfortunate. But do they perpetuate lawlessness? This is a dead give-away of where they are with God.

Anyhow.

How tragic it will be for these who think they are going to heaven based on the 'works' that flowed from them......

I have often wondered why God allowed such ministries to flourish if they are not working with Him. Then I decided that it must be that His name will still be glorified at some level even though the majority of the workers may not be godly - just guessing.

My thoughts...

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Take s look st the sheep and goats of Nat.25. What was it that commended them before Jesus. It was not the doctrine that they coukd articulate but the fact that that their lives emulated the second great commandment of love of neighbor. In Luke 10 the good sanaritan who probably had some whacky theology practiced the second great commandnent by ministering to the assaulted victim. He was commended by Christ. This victim who was assaulted was past by the doctrinally pure of his day, a priest and a Levite.

I am sure that you look at Mother Theresa anf consign her to hell because of her Catholicism. Yet she was quoted as saying her works of compassion for the poor were done out of a heart love for Jesus. So she may not have had the finer points of her theology in line with ours. If she or any other person confessed Christ and believed in him. If their testimony emulated the second great commandment who are we to say they were not saved.

I read of those, Catholic, Orthodox, anf Protestant who willingly spill their blood for Christ and give their lives for his kingdom. I will not judge their hearts as their actions speak for themselves.

Blaine

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Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses also claim Christ. Muslim's take Him as one of their own too. But those, just like Catholics don't confess the true Christ, and all of their works for Him are in vain.

We have to be consistent with this if we're going to speak this way. Not everyone is going to be 100% in their doctrine while alive, but they can be solid on the essentials of the faith. There are little issues, and then there are BIG ones. As a member of the RCC she paid homage to a living anti-Christ (the pope), and devalued the sacrifice of Christs blood as not being enough for sins, believing that others would do penance in purgatory for theirs (along with a slew of other things probably better left for another thread). Did you even read the horrific thing she said about her "ministry" that I posted below?

She wasn't interested in sharing Living Water. She was just interested in getting the dying more accustomed and proficient at drinking the poison already killing them.

I'm working in Japan as a missionary right now. What if I were to say that I wasn't interested in actually making disciples of Christ, but wanted instead to make the Japanese into better Buddhists, Shintoists, and Atheists? My testimony and "mission work" would be an utter and disgraceful joke. The only prayers on this board for me would be to save me, or get me out of Japan.

The Buddhists in my area have better actions to judge by than all of these put together, and they also think Jesus was a pretty rad dude. Shall we let them in the club too, eh?

Paul equates abounding love with knowledge and discernment in Philippians 1:9-10 as follows;

And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve the things that are excellent, in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ; (ESV)

It's a shame that we don't make the same equation.

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I have a friend (unsaved) that is from Japan and attends our church but his english is so bad I don't think the Gospel is getting through, he will be around for about 4 more years, can you suggest a good way for me to learn some of his language? He talks too fast and does not know enough English to teach me - Thanks - Domo.

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Blaine

I am just a little surprised of the some of the things you have shared in this thread concerning those lost in the Catholic Church. Based on what you have shared concerning those lost in the Muslim religion, I am confused, do you not see that both are deceived both are lost and in need of JESUS?

As for mother Teresa I do not know where she is now, heaven or hell. That is for GOD to be concerned with, but I do know we are to know them by their fruit and she professed a faith and lived a life in devotion to the RCC. The Bible has plenty to say on this matter. Sadly even though it is difficult for us to understand the simple truth is that many people who do good deeds, will in fact go to hell because they refuse to die to self and live in submission and obedience to CHRIST. JESUS alone is the way to eternal life and it really does not matter how good a person tries to be, in the end if they live apart from GOD, if they profess another WAY besides CHRIST, then they are lost.


Seems this thread has taken a few twists and turns in its subject matter. As for the original poster of this thread, I will be in prayer for them. I did not watch the videos but we can not ignore the fact that statements were made that are not Biblical. NO man knows the hour or day JESUS will return to claim otherwise is a lie. I do not believe we should mock others but we should stand firm on Biblical truth. There are many whose faith has been crushed under claims such as these, they build up their hopes and faith in what these false ones come in saying only to be disillusioned when events do not occur.

GOD bless
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So she may not have had the finer points of her theology in line with ours. If she or any other person confessed Christ and believed in him.

Finer points? Like salvation?

I'm always amazed at how whenever anyone takes a stand for sound doctrine and the Word of God on this site... we are always accused of never walking out our faith... by people who have never met us in person, or know anything about us.

Thats called "foolish" in the Bible.

Krispy

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lastdayswork,

If you email me at everestosama@yahoo.com I can send you some resources and tips.

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Romans 10:9-10
That is if you confess with your mouth 'Jesus is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved. For it is with your heart you believe and are justified and it is with your mouth you confess and are saved.

Anyone who does this is saved. If a person has done this God eill be the judge of their hearts, not us in this forum.

Blaine

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"If you think Mother Teresa was saved you should read her own words at the end of her life. It was very sad indeed. Perhaps she was saved in the last seconds or minutes of her life, we cant know. But up to the very end her faith was in the Catholic Church and Mary... not in Christ. And thats a fact. She was the epitome of trying to earn your way into heaven... and falling short."

Stephen your so right, what a shame.

The only thing that I can say about her is if her heart was in the earning, then she has fallen from grace. But if her heart was the type of "here I am Lord and I am doing what I am doing because you said to tend the suffering", only God can sort out the finer details and we can only speculate.

But as to "I believe that Mother Teresa is saved". Let me say this, it doesn't matter what we believe. People believe that Elvis is singing love me tender around God's throne. People see the good of what men do and we can't get beyond the idea that God could send them to hell.

It's still, "If any man hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of His". That still is true today, and we shouldn't deviate from that, and it doesn't matter how good a person is, if they don't have His Spirit, they are none of His.

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I feel that I am not holy enough to be in such an august body of saints here. So once again I will take my leave and go fellowship with the heretics and sinners.. Less judgement there.

The Heretic.

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Anyone who does this is saved. If a person has done this God eill be the judge of their hearts, not us in this forum.

JW's and Mormons have done this. So you are saying you believe that JW's and Mormons are saved, correct?

Krispy

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Martyr, I am currently reading the history of the reformation. What a history indeed, rich and enlightening. Did you know that the Catholic Church killed people just because they had a bible in their home or worse, desired to read it.

She is no different today. She is in stealth mode. She goes about appearing to be friendly, appearing to be like everyone else, so that when our senses are dull we can't tell who is of the truth and who is not because we have allowed these cults to sneak into our lives through good works, through cunning words that sound evangelical.

Any person that I know who has come to Jesus Christ by faith has left those cults. They don't stay in it, they don't stay deceived, they get out. A former JW doesn't return to the slop pen after Christ has revealed Himself to them, they get out. A Mormon seeing that Jesus is the only way doesn't sit under that.

Come on, lets stop drinking the kool-aid and get with the program. When Paul was set free from killing Christians, He didn't go back to the high priest looking for orders to kill more Christians.

If Mother Teresa saw the truth, she'd have gotten out of that rotten religion. Her conscience would have troubled her endlessly.

Some people have said, well we stay in the catholic church to be a light, foolish talk.

You can't be a light. Anyone that is a light has to speak the truth and no priest, no pope, no bishop would put up with you being under the same roof. Jesus said, "If they hate you, they hated me first".

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you guys may think that mockery is just fine and is actually loving some how, but if i were Paula I wouldn't want to step foot back in this thread to be ministered to by most of you, whether unto salvation or correct doctrine otherwise. Love can certainly be firm, but it does not mock.

Paula, if you are there, there are many who would distract you from a sound faith in Jesus Christ, who He is and what He did on Calvary and continues to do through the Spirit. The book of Acts states that many signs and wonders were done at the hands of the apostles. I believe that many miracles still take place in that realm of healing etc, but we arren't to look to THEM, but to HIM. Fix your eyes on Jesus and you won't be disappointed and have to twist events and scripture to fit what some prophet tells you. The more you listen to him and not Him, the more you are under his manipulation and the more you can be used. Be in the Word of God and study to show thyself approved. If you aren't sure you are saved, read through 1 John and the Gospel of John and you will get your answers there.

Lloyd

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Friends, why are you arguing and fighting? Just as I stated the Spirit of Jesus was present at the Kissi revival and every type of disease under the sun were healed in Kissi. Even over the radio people got healed. God is the same and still confirms His message with and signs and wonders.

The poor and rejected of socity have only Jesus. Truly, the Lord has chosen the poor to be rich in faith - it's by faith isn't it.

I too was skeptical when I first saw the video of the prophet Dr. David Owuor in Haiti, but instead of called him false I went to Kenya to verify. Please examine the man message and post the errors here for all to see.

My heart rejoices for I serve only one master, God the father and Jesus the redeemer of my soul who gives me the seal of he Holy Spirit.

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Sister could you please email me at this address the.persecution.watch@gmail.com. I woukd like to hear about your experiences in China. I tried to email you at your profile but the email would not go through.

I lead s conference call where we pray for the persecuted church. China is always on the top of our list. It's aleays good to hear from some one who has been there. Please email me.

Blaine
the.persecution.watch@gmail.com

PS
You will not be mocked on our call.

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In your first post you claimed "every disease under the sun" and "in all four corners of the earth". Now you're backtracking to "every disease under the sun...just in Kissi". I honestly can't believe some are defending this, and in turn promoting false prophecy by association.

Discernment this poor however truly does show signs of His second coming. Jesus warned 4 times as much about spiritual deception being a sign of the end times than anything else.

Mathew 24:11 reads;

Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. (NASB)

THIS is truly the only real prophecy that's been fulfilled on this thread.

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Friends, why are you arguing and fighting? Just as I stated the Spirit of Jesus was present at the Kissi revival and every type of disease under the sun were healed in Kissi. Even over the radio people got healed. God is the same and still confirms His message with and signs and wonders.

If you can send us links where we can see medically documented proof of this... I will embrace this thing.

Krispy

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If you can send us links where we can see medically documented proof of this... I will embrace this thing.

Make sure the claims come from all four corners of the earth as well.

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Its interesting to me that these things always seem to happen in remote parts of Africa where nothing can ever be substantiated...

But lets give her the benefit of the doubt. Lets keep our silence and await the proof.

I have not seen anything on the news media yet about mass healings...

Krispy

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Hi Paul4jc,

I have looked into what Dr Owuor was saying a few months ago as another poster had mentioned his name.I checked out his videos etc and I found to the best of my memory that one of his videos was changed from the original posted(doctored)to make it look like a prophesy had come true.
Why would he be changing his videos?Not for truth sake anyway.I am still waiting for the earthquake predicted between tasmania and Australia!Just look at the eiffel tower prediction he made on You tube.Then he backtracked when it didnt happen if memory serves correct.Never saw Moses or Elisha or Jesus do that.oops got that one wrong.sorry!
Also the giftings of God in one sense are independent from the believer.The believer could be wrong and still the gift works.
Also many will say in that day lord lord didnt we ..........
Yours Staff

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Dr Owuor ... where is your god? Perhaps he is sleeping, or on vacation!

Just sayin'...

Krispy

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mguldner

Hey now Krispy you wouldn't happen to be quoting the biblical prophet Elijah to the prophets of Baal? Nah he would never mock falsehood...

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gators52

you know I have been on this website hundreds of times over the last several years and I'm always amazed at some of you and the way you treat other people... on this thread alone there has been such a comotion about this woman's sincere glorifying of Christ... shame on anyone who mocked this woman... you defend Christ, or so you say, but He needs no defense.. there is no move of God in america because we espouse no God... instead of quoting scripture and making moronic fleshly responses to EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING anyone says here you should see Christ in everyone... did He not die for everyone? of course you all know that He did. A man who has not been touched by the Spirit cannot speak about the things of the Spirit... this woman has more class than a lot of you who have bashed her over the head... shame on you

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Because we test all things against the Word of God to see if they are true or not makes us sinful?

By the way, truthfully I am not mocking this lady. I feel sorry for her. I am mocking the man who has deceived her.

Where is the evidence of these miracles? In the Bible the miracles of Christ, and the miracles He performed thru His apostles, were not done secretly. There was no doubt in anyones minds that the miracles happened and that people were healed. It caused all kinds of controversy! EVERYONE knew of them. And that was before mass media.

It seems today that God has perhaps chosen to sneak around and do miracles incognito...

I challenge anyone to proove the things being said on this thread. Proove it and I will follow.

Krispy

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Not only were the miracles of Christ public and out in the open by they were also verified by the experts of the time, remember the man that was born blind? or the Ten men with leprosy? They all went to the Pharisee, who were the technical medical authority of the time through the Laws of Moses.

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You guys have it all wrong. If you truly have love, you lie to someone, to make sure their feelings aren't hurt, and that their bad doctrine has a place beside good doctrine. You give seats of honor to false prophets like in the days of the Old Testament, and never speak up about anything that contradicts the Word of God. You let false prophets take another shot at their fanciful imaginations.... I mean...prophecy because the Bible says that's fine, correct? That's love yeah? Making sure everyone feels good right? That's our example in Jesus yeah? Not causing any waves? Anything goes......


.....right?

And I agree the truth needs no defense against heresy, which is why Paul and the apostles shouldn't have bothered naming names and fighting for the truth back in the New Testament. I wish they had access to this thread back then so they wouldn't have wasted so much time, blood, effort, tears, and ink.

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Wait a minute Paula, you came in started a controversial thread stating our Lord WILL return LAST weekend and then you state in a later post, "Why are you arguing and fighting?".

Excuse me?

Your the instigator of it. Nothing happened last weekend, Christ didn't return to earth as your "prophet" had suggested and this has nothing to do with how the west looks at Africa as the scum of the earth, we have our own scum over here to deal with.

And you expect everyone to just except the prophets message when what he prophesied didn't come to pass?

Now, if you had of said, "Jesus is coming to Kissi and He is going to heal everyone". I would have understood that to mean that the Holy Ghost was going to perform great and mighty things.

If that is what you meant, you need to be careful how you word your words.

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Unfortunately "all for corners of the earth" is what was said, and originally that's what was meant. The most recent post has been the false prophet's number one time tested weapon commonly known as: "The backtrack".

Works like a charm every time on those who don't love the truth. The Jehovah's Witness's have been perfecting it for over a hundred years, and Harold Camping recently added a personal flourish to it. Tried and true!

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I agree with Brother Gators. This sister has shown more class than those of you mocking her. She has more of Christ in her than those of you who profess to speak for him. The honest truth is some of you do not know what God is doing in the world outside of the U S.

You want proof that God is healing and doing miracles. You want to see CNN coverage, you want to see a BBC report, or Fox news exclusive. It ain't gonna happen. The natural press is not going to cover it. Even CNN. But it is happening.

Has anyone heard of Gospel for Asia? Anyone know who K. P Yohannan is? Does anyone remember Sermon Index had a conference at GRA headquarters? While there we heard stories of healings that take place on a regular basis through GFA missionarirs. These miracles lead to conversions in Christ. I recieve literature regularly through Gospel for Asia. Aleays there is a story about someone who has been healed or delivered and come to Christ. And guess what? These healings are not reported in the press. You eould not know they took place unless they were reported by GFA.

I read reports about what God is doing in other parts of the world in connection with the persecuted church. This stuff is never reported in the press and you would mock it if it were. Thus I want mention it. You would not believe it. And that is the issue. You who mock do not believe. If you be honest you believe that miracles disappeared when the Bibke was codified.

Even in the days of Christ his miracles were repudiated. As the sister said it is the poor who are rich in faith. Those of you in your arrogant mocking will never see revival occur in this land. Jesus could not do any miracles in his hometown because of the lack of faith
Your lack of faith will prevent God from moving here.

Like writes in Acts 13:41
Look, you scoffers, wonder and perish, for I an going to do something in your days that you woukd never believe, EVEN IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU.

Blaine

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Hey Martyr... when did anyone say God is not healing?

We said that what this lady's prophet prophecied did not happen. No one said anything about GFA or any of that. You are way off track, brother, bringing that into this conversation.

This conversation is about a man who prophesied something that did not happen (which the Bible declares is the PROOF of someone being a FALSE prophet... common sense tells us this, and the unregenerate known this naturally! but Christians cant seem to grasp it), and now he is backtracking and downgrading his prophecy to make it look like he wasnt wrong... which is called LYING.

This has nothing to do with GFE, and it would be great if you did not put words in our mouths and accuse the brethren of things we did not say or thought.

Thanx,
Krispy

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Yeah, no one has mentioned the gifts not being active today. I think we're all just offended at counterfeits.

And I've never considered prophesying falsely in the name of the Lord and then backtracking to cover an obvious lie as "classy". Funny definitions we have around here these days.

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It's called "post-modernism".

It means we're afraid to call something false. It comes from a lack of knowledge of the Word of God, and a lack of confidence in the Word of God.

It's in vogue now to claim that noone can know what truth is, therefore dont judge anything. It's rampant in the so-called "church" today and it's nauseating.

It's apostacy is what it is.

We have the truth... it's called the Bible and it is the FINAL AUTHORITY on everything. Period.

Krispy

PS: I am living proof that God heals. I should be in the grave right now, but God healed me completely just a little over a year ago.

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ginnyrose

Paula,

As another female, I would like to encourage you to be very careful who you listen to. I know how easy it is to be swayed by a person who has a lot of charisma: he is very persuasive, convincing. And he may have charm - how else would he get a following without it? He may also do 'miracles'.

Paula, I know you want to do what is right and so do the rest on this forum. I do not for one minute think anyone on here is deliberately pursuing heresy with the intent to deceive. We may get snookered into it because of ignorance or because of blindness, but to pursue it with conscience intent? I doubt it.

Paula, one must allow the Bible to teach us what is TRUTH. It matters not who says what, God is the author of TRUTH: he cannot lie. If the WORD says that no man knows the day nor hour when Jesus will return it means exactly that.

Paula, may I suggest that you make a study of the WORD to determine what it says about false prophets, about true prophets. Both exist and they can be male and/or female. For starters I suggest you go to Deut.13:1-5 and read through the NT, through Revelation as well, to see if God has changed his mind on his opinion of false prophets.

Paula, I know what it is like to be deceived. I used to believe everything I read and I read a LOT. I also promoted it and was shocked when people did not believe me! Good thing, too! Later, I learned the truth. Paula, when this happened I entered into a self-loathing, the like I hate to talk about....it took me years to forgive myself (and others who should have warned me but didn't) for having been so dumb, so stupid. Fortunately, for me, the LORD saw my heart. He knew I wanted to do the right thing and in due time he showed me! Praise his name! So, Paula, I plead with you for you to reconsider your allegiance to this man or any other leader, for that matter. Make the WORD your authority and use it as a measuring stick to see how these men (or women) measure up.

God bless..

ginnyrose

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It's called "post-modernism".

It means we're afraid to call something false. It comes from a lack of knowledge of the Word of God, and a lack of confidence in the Word of God.

It's in vogue now to claim that noone can know what truth is, therefore dont judge anything. It's rampant in the so-called "church" today and it's nauseating.

It's apostacy is what it is.

We have the truth... it's called the Bible and it is the FINAL AUTHORITY on everything. Period.

-Krispykrittr

Spot on.

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ginnyrose

Paula,

Let share an incident....

When I went to Bible School in 1965 we had an instructor who was also studying at a state university, working to get his Ph.D., I think in sociology. He was a very good teacher and well respected. I took two classes under him: 1Corinthians and "Group Dynamics in Evangelism".

In Group Dynamics he shared with us the principles of mental telepathy, hypnotism, how it works and why it may be a helpful tool in getting people to think like you want them to! (Don't gag, y'all!) He did say it works but the experts do not know why!

Needless to say, in a few years the LORD showed me how very sinful this is.

The fellow was a skilled teacher. Experiments with mental telepathy were done to prove his point...what do you say in face of these experiments? Especially, for one so young as me? In retrospect, all I can say is that it seems as though this instructor was not familiar with the work of the Holy Spirit, did not know when and how to trust him that he felt the need to resort to methods to do His work. And the poor fellow likely was ignorant of this flaw, never mind all his education, he was very wrong. (I do not know how familiar the rest of the staff was with his' teachings.)

Paula, there can be no substitute for the Holy Spirit. There are plenty of counterfeits out there. They look and act like the real thing - they have to in order to snooker people. The devil can work miracles, too. Miracles are not a sign a person is from the LORD.

Just felt like I needed to share this....

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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When I went to Bible School in 1965...

...I was not born yet. :-)

Krispy

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ginnyrose

"...I was not born yet. :-)"

Hey! weird things were happening before you were born! :-( There has been no let up, has there? :-/

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paula4jc

Friends, let your words be as apple set in gold and build up those who hears it. Why is the body of Chirst devived here? If you love me you will obey command - love one another says the Lord . I am just a poor village woman who lack the formal education to write and express well, thus, pardon me as I said so not the prophets. Nevertheless, I still stand my post that every disese under the sun has been healed in all four corner of the earth. Do you have faith and did you listen? As for those asking for proof of the healing. The top doctors of that nation broadcast globally the patients record number, hospital phone to include Walter Reed clicnic based here, Atlanta CDC. Also, they challenge any one in any country to investigate the claim. Scoffers why not take the challenge and post your finding here for all to see?

This is the last hour don't be found naked - trim your lamp. The season has changed, look at the fig tree and all the trees you can see summer is near so when you see these things you know He's at the door. May God the father of our Lord Jesus let you be found in fine linen, white and clean without spots and wrinkles at His coming.

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..I was not born yet. :-)

lol, ditto

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"As for those asking for proof of the healing"

Your speaking nonsense.

The title of your thread is, "King of Kings visiting earth this weekend".

Where is your proof that Jesus returned last weekend?

Your still here!

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The burden of proof is not on us. YOU posted on the forum that something would happen, YOU prove that it did.

I'm still waiting for the Eiffel Tower to be "lifted up". Have anyone I can call to see if that's happened?

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El-Bethel

Bros and sis, This thread is becoming unedifying. Feel like 'merry-go-around' circling and nauseating.
Leave Paula4jc alone. It will do much good to this forum. It's my feeling.
I really sympathize her. Feel sad that no body could open her eyes in the past six days.

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Feel sad that no body could open her eyes in the past six days.

Thats the nature of strong delusion and deception.

While I am not agreeing with El-Bethel's "feelings"... I do believe that the best thing right now is to just let this thread die a quiet death.

There has been no proof of anything. Obviously every disease under the sun has not been healed. Jesus did not visit the earth... thats why we have the Holy Spirit. According to the Bible the next time Jesus comes to earth it wont be to visit, it will be to RULE AND REIGN!

We should pray for Paula that she will come out of this CULT and leave this foolishness behind. We should pray that the sovereign God of heaven will open her eyes to the truth, and save her to the utter most... and He is able to do just that.

El-Bethel is correct when he/she says that no one could open her eyes, but wrong to suggest that any of us could. Biblically it's not up to any of us to open her eyes, only God can do that. God is the revealer of truth.

El-Bethel has also requested that we leave Paula alone. I suggest that is the worst advice on this thread. Leave her alone in her deception?? No. Do not leave her alone, but continue to share the gospel with her. She needs to hear it. We need to share it truthfully, lovingly... and at times... bluntly. Some will get offended, even Christians. But the truth offends. Thats a fact. Some people are just going to have to get over it.

So lets play taps and just let this thread die a quiet death.

Remember... this is what was said in the opening post:

It'll be the largest and most glorious visitation the earth has ever seen!

Where is it? Where are all the healed people? Why has anyone not seen it?

Still stuck with my disease, how about any of you?

Krispy

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There is a saying that you can catch more flies with honey than vinigar. Assuming Paula's heart is to won to Christ I don't think this thread with its sourcasm and mocking will do it. But frankly she has shown more grace to her detracters on this thread than you have toward her. To me this testifies of her heart committment toward Christ.

Leave her alone. You have won your debate by your mocking her. No doubt you have driven her from the forum. You have won. Purity of doctrine had prevailed. I agree with the other poster. Let this thread die. Leave Paula alone. I trust she will find other supportive fellowship else wher. For surely it will not be at SI.

Blaine

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paula4jc

Grace and peace to you Blaine! The Lord blesses you! Surely you're of a different spirit. The Lord knows those who are His. I wish to fellowship with Blaine offline as you will admonish me in love. If you correct a fool he hates you! Nevertheless, I love you all and I pray for you all.

Blaine please check your email and response to please.

Time is absolutely over! The Messiah is Coming! Let everyone prepare in holiness! Without holiness no one will see God!

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My sister. Will check for your email. Blessings to you.

Blaine

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Leave her alone. You have won your debate by your mocking her. No doubt you have driven her from the forum. You have won. Purity of doctrine had prevailed. I agree with the other poster. Let this thread die. Leave Paula alone. I trust she will find other supportive fellowship else wher. For surely it will not be at SI.

There is no doubt that she has been very graceful. No argument there.

I dare say, Blaine, that your attitude toward me on this thread and many others has generally been less than graceful. You're loathing of me is obvious.

Thats unfortunate that you are so judgemental. The more I insist that we follow the Bible in everything, the more wound up you seem to get. Sorry to tell you, but the Bible is THE final authority on everything... and that means...

e v e r y t h i n g.

The prophecies that were espoused at the beginning of this thread did not happen, failing the Biblical and logical test of a prophet. Rather than admit the mistake, the prophecy was then back tracked and down graded to make it look like something happened. Thats called deception, i.e. lying.

We called it what it was, and you claim that it is mocking. No, it's called proclaiming the truth. I do mock the false prophet she follows. "Where is your god? Is he on vacation?"

The Bible tells us to "test the spirits". So we have. You cry foul and claim we should give her fellowship. I say no. A little leaven ruins the whole lump.

That does not mean we reject her as a person and condemn her. NO ONE has done that. We should show her the error of her ways. We have done that. Instead of truly help her by showing her her error you claim we should overlook it and just love her. I say that’s not love!

Instead… you condemn me… for declaring the truth of the Word of God.

That’s backwards, brother. I dare say it’s also sinful. It's certainly not Biblical love, and your beef ultimately is not with me...

You should take the time to get to know me. You may find out (as others have on here) that you might like me.

Krispy

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I agree with every word in Krispy's post.

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Just for kicks I called the CDC in Atlanta as Paula suggested we do for proof of her claims.

They had no idea what I was talking about.

You can call too... 800-232-4636

(Now we will be told they are covering it up!)

Krispy

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mguldner

Well I know I wasn't healed from every sickness last weekend because I have to wear glasses which means I have a sickness of the eyes. I am looking forward to the day the Lord actually returns and I don't have to wear glasses anymore although I have grown fond of them, perhaps that's why I wasn't healed this past weekend.

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Probably were not healed because you dont have enough faith... thats always the backdoor for "faith healers"! lol

They are never wrong. If it doesnt happen they blame it on you!

Krispy

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Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

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Some want to embrace all... regardless of what sin a person refuses to repent of, or what false doctrine a person wants to infiltrate the church with.

Paul says just the opposite.

To the unrepentent in the church Paul says to cut them off and treat them as a heathen.

To the one who brings division thru false doctrines Paul says to "mark and avoid" them.

Two reasons: to protect the church, and to hopefully bring the offender to their senses.

Today we think we know better than the Holy Spirit did when He wrote those things thru Paul.

How prideful we have become.

Krispy

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