Steve Jobs just checked out

Apples first primitive computer, priced at $666.66, had no keyboard or display, and customers had to assemble it themselves. $666.66......Hmmm...

"You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future," Jobs told Stanford University graduates during a commencement speech in 2005. "You have to trust in something: your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life."......wonder how he feels about that now?

I was actually talking to a nonchristian coworker and what she said was pretty profound and scriptural. "Well now how is he suppose to enjoy all that money he made." Huh I wonder if Jobs ever thought of that?

I have used Apple products since 1985. They make well designed tools created by the hard labor of thousands of individuals around the world. Some of those very hard working people are our brethren, placed in this giant corporation to be a witness to the Light. God placed His vessels of honor in the Babylonian court too. The Lord Himself raised up Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. He also set the number of Job's days. Pray for boldness and a powerful anointing of the Spirit that they might share the Good News to those grieving the loss of Steve Paul Jobs.

so very well put greg......vanity. All there is here to grasp and hold is vanity

We have a saying in the funeral industry: you'll never see a hearse pulling a u-haul. Dead men have empty pockets. It's those left behind that squabble over the estate, probate the will, divide the spoil, et cetera. Like vultures over a carcass. The world is insane.

Even though Jobs wasn't a Christian, I don't think we should characterize him as just another rich man who didn't take his riches with him.

What I've learned from him is that when you are committed to your ideals, over the course of your life, you can achieve remarkable things. We as Christians have our professional lives too, but sadly many of us I know treat the workplace as just a regretful curse from Adams sin or as a place that owes us a paycheck. I personally think this man demonstrated how to bring your heart to work. He knew how to inspire possibilities in people...and I think even Christians can learn something from that.

Mike

I think we should be thankful for the technologies that we all benefit from as a result of the businesses Steve Jobs started and ran. The interface one your computer, GUI, is either the direct result of or a copy of development work of Apple engineers over the past thirty years and you can find the effects thereof on your Windows and Mac computers. The world wide web had some of it's early development on the NEXT platform. The first web browser, Mosaic, was developed on a Mac. It is also worthwhile to remind everyone that desktop publishing was launched because of the WYSIWYG (What You See IS What You Get) interface developed and promoted on the Macintosh platform.

I don't want you to praise the man for these things but to be thankful to the Lord for the ways that Steve Jobs influence and skill bless the saints today.

Aside from his faith,The World lost a GREAT innovator today. Thanks Steve for all your contributions. Rest in Peace.

I will be honest the title of this thread bothered me. I know that I am probably being overly sensitive but we are speaking about someones eternity. Just seems that we some times make lite of things that really are serious.

As for this mans passing, I was surprised there was not more news leading up to it. I know that there have been a couple of stories but as far as I know there were no real recent stories talking about how ill he was. Seems he wanted to keep this private or at least his last days private. I can appreciate the talents and gifts this man was given by the LORD in what he did while alive. Don't know what was on his heart in his last moments here on earth but his passing is a reminder to me at least that time is short. Our life here is over in a moment so we should be using our time here to walk every day with the LORD and look for opportunities to be about HIS Kingdom.
God Bless
maryjane

I've owned an iPod for a couple of years now and it's better than any mp3 player I had before that! An awesome invention to carry our sermons where ever we go!!

Yes, he was a Buddhist, but steward wise, he was an excellent steward. I wonder how many Christians can say the same thing. He was forced out of Apple in 1985. When the business was failing, they brought him back as CEO in 1997 and brought it to where it is today. And in between those years, he created what is now known as Pixar Animation Studios. I think he was an excellent steward of the talents his was given.

Now about his soul, I know nothing and neither do any of you; I don’t know what happened in the last hours or days of his life. I would rather believe for mercy (since I do not know and neither does anyone else).

God bless,
Lisa

by MrBillPro on 2011/10/6 3:17:05

Aside from his faith,The World lost a GREAT innovator today. Thanks Steve for all your contributions. Rest in Peace.

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MrBillPro you closed your post with "rest in peace" ? Can I ask you in all sincerity does it trouble you to say those words about someone whom you are not sure is with the LORD? I will admit, while I do not know what was on Steve Jobs heart when he died while he was alive he did not profess any belief in the LORD so I really struggle with that saying. Its hard for me because if he died in rebellion then he is not resting in peace and I guess I would not want to give false comfort or hope to any others who are still living and have not yielded there life to the LORD?

Its really a difficult thing for me that I am not sure about.

God Bless
mj

Krispy wrote:The vast great majority of people who will die today will be in hell today. What are we doing about it?
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Yes that is what is on my heart as well. Time is short and we should be about the LORDS Kingdom.

God bless
mj

Mary, your putting the cart before the horse. No one knows how Steve went out, I have witnessed many "hard core" non believers death bed salvation's. The most high-profile death bed / last-minute conversion to Christ in the Bible is the case of the criminal crucified alongside Jesus Only moments before his own death, this criminal had been an unbelieving mocker of Christ. However, at the last moment the criminal repented and acknowledged Jesus as the heavenly King. The Lord gave him the blessed promise, “Today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”
Mary, this should not trouble you at all until the facts are in,"and they may never be" I just believe as smart a man as he was,he knew there was a Jesus Christ, of course this is just my opinion.

For all we know, he may be in heaven today. Or not. No sense getting hot under the collar over a matter that's not fully known.
Apparently, the folks he worked with believed he brought his absolute best to what he did.
Do the folks you work with believe the same about you?

Someone mentioned about being excellent stewards of our secular vocations. I totally agree with them.

Daniel was a holy man in Babylon AND he was excellent at what he did. May that be my testimony as well.

Thank you MrBillPro for taking a moment to answer my question. I do understand that no one knows for sure but I guess what troubles me is how often we(meaning the population at large)say these kinds of things because it brings comfort to those who have lost someone but I wonder if by doing so we do them a disservice. I wonder if being honest and telling them the truth is not more an act of love... that we don't know where the person is but for their own eternity they should seek to repent and know JESUS. I guess that is what troubles me the most. I wonder if we don't offer comfort at the cost of their eternity??

Thank you for sharing your opinion with me and allowing me do to so also.

Have a blessed day
maryjane

edit: Forgive me these are just some thoughts on my heart I guess I have been thinking about my own dad and how things unfolded when he passed away. I pray I did not offend you in any way.

by Endzone on 2011/10/6 4:18:05

I will be honest the title of this thread bothered me. I know that I am probably being overly sensitive but we are speaking about someones eternity. Just seems that we some times make lite of things that really are serious.

It is better to dwell in the wilderness than with a nagging and contentious woman.

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wow was that really called for? I said clearly that I was probably being overly sensitive and just sharing my thoughts that were on my heart. Don't know why you would post such a hurtful response to my post...

Pray you will have a good day in the LORD and just to be clear I was not trying to be nagging or contentious.

God bless you
maryjane

by Endzone on 2011/10/6 4:31:43

wow was that really called for? I said clearly that I was probably being overly sensitive and just sharing my thoughts that were on my heart. Don't know why you would post such a hurtful response to my post...

Pray you will have a good day in the LORD and just to be clear I was not trying to be nagging or contentious.

God bless you
maryjane

wow, yeah I guess it was because apparently you can't comprehend an entire paragraph at a time. Please go back and read my first post. I didn't change it one bit. I didn't edit it. I believe I said the most important issue was his eternal security--the very thing you accuse me of being insensitive about. I mean, I know you're not stupid.

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Edited after more prayer:

Endzone

I was not accusing you of anything and if my post came across that way please forgive me. I was sharing my heart that's why I said I am probably being overly sensitive. I humbly ask you to forgive me for not choosing my words better. In my attempt to make a comment on how the titled affected me and what is on my heart I seem to have offended you and I did not mean to. I really was not trying imply anything more about your post. I did read it in its entirety and yes you did speak to his eternity, I was not attempting to say that you did not.

With much love in my heart for you I have revised my reply after praying on this...

God Bless you and keep you
maryjane

MaryJane,

Can you email me? I must have lost your email addy. Mine is in my profile.

Have a blessed day.

ginnyrose

Just for the record. All you who want to worship at the altar of Jobs.... He was a devout Buddhist. I'm all glad you hold this man in high regard maybe you should have gone to witness to him when he was alive if you admired him so....oh you didnt admire him that much....yea he probably would have laughed at you and had Apple security escort you out....wouldn't want that. You hear the same "death bed conversion" (hopes) from Elvis fans too...Give me a break. Stop sugar coating everything and call it. He was a self professed Buddhist who relied on Karma. Man I gotta be politically Correct on SI now

sermonindex said:

"What is sad is you can run and have the most success with a business (one of the largest in the world) and have 100 of millions' in the bank and without Jesus Christ you are lost and have no hope. Oh the vanity of riches and money and anything you can grasp in this earth. What only counts is faith (things unseen) in christ the son of God."

It reminds me of when Ravenhill spoke about what Mr Wesley left behind; a few spoons, a shawl, some other things and the Methodist Church. He received money, and look where it went!

Mr Jobs is being tributed for his service to technology. I hope that in eternity our own works bring glory to God.

by ginnyrose on 2011/10/6 15:11:58

MaryJane,

Can you email me? I must have lost your email addy. Mine is in my profile.

Have a blessed day.

ginnyrose

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Ginnyrose

I did not see your email in your profile when I checked this morning. Sorry. I will add mine to my profile for you to get.

God bless you
maryjane

QUOTE:
"Just for the record. All you who want to worship at the altar of Jobs.... He was a devout Buddhist. I'm all glad you hold this man in high regard maybe you should have gone to witness to him when he was alive if you admired him so....oh you didnt admire him that much....yea he probably would have laughed at you and had Apple security escort you out....wouldn't want that. You hear the same "death bed conversion" (hopes) from Elvis fans too...Give me a break. Stop sugar coating everything and call it. He was a self professed Buddhist who relied on Karma. Man I gotta be politically Correct on SI now"

Enochh, I agree with you 100%. I was thinking along the same lines....I was wondering why all these accolades for someone who was a Buddhist! Mother Teresa would get no praise on here but Steve Jobs did because of his work in electronics! Mother Teresa gets no praise and she worked with saving people in the gutter!

Now go figure!

I am not politically correct either, so move over Enochh...

QUOTE:

I did not see your email in your profile when I checked this morning.

I do not understand this because it is there, at least I see it.

I any case, MJ, I did email you. If you do not see it, check your junk box... For some reason some of my good emails go there - even Enid's will go there - don't know why unless it is from the UK!

ginnyrose

I was wondering why all these accolades for someone who was a Buddhist!

Hi Ginny,

For my part, I felt the title of this thread reveals a disrespect for human beings, whether they are Buddhist or Christian or anything at all. Among news of Steve's Job's passing on the internet, this thread in Sermon Index pops up as singularly contemptuous and insensitive.

Accolades aside, I am just wondering why we felt the need to write his obituary in these forums in the first place? When we try to write other's people's narratives, (or obituaries) we are in effect trying to take ownership of their story and reputation. And while writing Job's story, we may acknowledge he wasn't a Christian, but there is no need to render him as "the rich man who had to learn the hard way that all his money won't save him."

Such a class-focused narrative reflects poorly on not only our intellects as Christians, but also our hearts. That we see Steve Job only in terms of his wealth indicates that we are the ones focused on money---not Steve Jobs.

And spiritual concern for people is an excellent thing, but when we use language such as "Steve Job's just checked out" within 24 hours of his death, we are communicating to the world we seem to care very little about people in general. My critique over this lack of respect shown to non-Christians is not "worshipping on the altar of Steve Jobs". Nor is it endorsing Buddhism. Indeed, the respect I am talking about isn't even endorsing Apple products. This is about showing common respect----demonstrating sensitivity to a life that just ended a day or so ago.

I hope this helps,

Mike

Thanks, Mike for your clear thinking, evaluation on this subject.

When I first read the title I thought of someone checking out of motel, not dying! OH....! It is disrespectful, even if the fellow was not a Christian. There is no excuse to be disrespectful to anyone...

When I first read the title I thought of someone checking out of motel

I appreciate your sense of humor, Ginny. It keeps us young. (That's what I tell myself at least!)

Endzone,

This is completely uncalled for. You don't have to agree on peculiarities...but your comments are extremely ungodly.

"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."
- Matthew 15:11 KJV

Endzone;

"Yea Compton you pathetic wiennie. It helps me understand what a wimp you are. It helps me understand you probably couldn't get a date to save your life and your only girlfirends are on Sermon Index. Insensitivity my @ss. Why don't you go play with your boyfriend? Man I'm sick of wimpy pathetic Christians like you."

Endzone, shame on you!!! Do you not know that Compton is a male and one of the mods! Your language is all uncalled for...methinks you do not know the LORD because if you did it would clean up your speech! If you were my child I would take you to the woodshed and give you a whoopin'

And another thing - are you and Trekker the one and same person?

You need to get down on your knees and have a heart to talk with the LORD Jesus!

Yea Compton you...

Please, calm yourself!
Anywhoo...

Matthew 5:44--"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

So, may God bless you, Endzone.