Wanted to know what you all thought of the movie and if the Sherwood films have blessed you at all. I liked the movie, was highly dissapointed though in the previews before the movie, very offensive.
Have not seen the movie yet. I've seen the trailers... what could you have possibly been offended by, if you dont mind me asking?
I was not a fan of "Fireproof". Not because of the storyline... I just dont like movies that play too heavily to your emotions. It seems like Christian movies ALWAYS have to be tear jerkers. (It was a chick flick... My wife loved it)
"Facing The Giants" was great, except the message of the movie seemed to be "once you surrender to God all YOUR dreams will come true!" Apparently if I just give it all to God I will win the state championship, get a brand new truck, revival will break out among everyone I know with no resistance whatsoever... and my wife will get pregnant... twice.
My favorite was "Fly Wheel". Very simple message, very simple story line, very funny at times. I wish they would remake it now that they have more money and resources because some of the film editting and such does look amateurish... but if you can get past that... it's a really good movie.
Krispy
Very good points, Krispy. Especially about Facing the Giants...I knew something wasn't quite right about it but couldn't put it in words very well. I mean if you want people to BELIEVE that that's what God really does, why put it in a movie instead of showing it in real life?? It almost caters to the mindset of, "Ok, that was a movie, now let's get back to real life" and in so doing making people miss the REAL power of God. For that reason and others, I'm not really for Christian movies. Reality and what I need to be focusing on (Christ) are too important to be sidetracked from by some story that never happened. I'd rather hear a true story than watch a made-up one any day!
However, I'm not insinuating anything here...I'd like to hear everyone's comments, too.
savedtoserve
I was blessed to meet with the pastor of Sherwood baptist and he is a wonderful brother in the Lord. I believe God has allowed these movies to be successful to give this pastor and church a platform to speak Gods word in their denomination esepecially.
He runs a wonderful conference on the need for revival every year: http://www.refreshconference.org/
very similar to the idea of the Revival Conferences that sermonindex has run.
I have not personally seen or viewed this new movie.
I think they have a great thing going there! No doubt about it. I think Christian movies are an effective way to spread the gospel. I just think when the writers try to make a movie a little too "feel good"... they can miss the mark. The Christian life is not about "feel good" (altho there is joy in the Christian life) and "inspiration" (altho God enables and inspire us). Of course I am speaking about fleshly "feel good" and "inspiration" which the modern church is mainly focussed on.
Krispy
My wife and I have personally been so blessed and edified by these movies by Sherwood Baptist and the Kendrick brothers. Praise the Lord for godly films that can be used to reach out to the lost and hurting, broken and divided homes. I believe the Lord has raised these precious people up to be a voice to not only their Church, denomination and community, but also the Christian culture.
God has given them great vision and insight into the true needs of the Church today, and two of those needs have been addressed powerfully: Marriage and Fatherhood.
It really discourages me when I hear fellow believers say anything neggative about these movies...haven't heard too much here so far, praise the Lord. Not every movie will perfectly fit everyone's individual experience or life, and to some if might feel like a feel good movie, but to others it could be what God uses to change their heart towards marriage and parenting.
I wouldn't set these movies in the same category of other Christian films. These folks pray fervently over these movies every day of filming, and they aren't in it to make a profit, but to truly spread the gospel and Word of God to heal homes and brokenness.
Courageous specifically was a phenominal movie. If the men of the Church could really get a hold of the truths it is attempting to speak, it could change the norm in the Christian home, which is what could change the foundational tilt of the Church. The Lord wants to "Turn the hearts of fathers back to their children and children to their fathers." I wouldn't say that Courageous was a feel good movie. It was very difficult to watch at times, and addressed very real issues such as gangs, drugs, broken homes, death, grieving, dating, violence, fatherhood, loss of jobs and the list goes on and on.
I could not recommend this movie more highly, as well as the others.
By the grace of God, may the men of the Church rise up and declare, "I Will".
Some of the previews for movies at the theatre before the movie started seemed to be very rebellious against what we find in scripture. One preview showed the preachers daughter who seemed to be rebellious behind closed doors and then the movie promoted a change from the traditional christian values, they seem to promote that it is good to go against our christian principles taught in scripture and that to stick to them is evil, the previews were just realy offensive and was marked by rebellion and showing off of the body, and that was offensive to me. I don't know know if that was for every theatre, but hopefully they change that. The movie itself was good, i could not tell that some of them were christians until half way through the movie.
It really discourages me when I hear fellow believers say anything neggative about these movies...haven't heard too much here so far, praise the Lord.
Different strokes for different folks... It should not discourage you if someone doesnt like a movie that you like. And I like their movies... except for what I said about Giants.
Krispy
Some of the previews for movies at the theatre before the movie started seemed to be very rebellious against what we find in scripture. One preview showed the preachers daughter who seemed to be rebellious behind closed doors and then the movie promoted a change from the traditional christian values, they seem to promote that it is good to go against our christian principles taught in scripture and that to stick to them is evil, the previews were just realy offensive and was marked by rebellion and showing off of the body, and that was offensive to me. I don't know know if that was for every theatre, but hopefully they change that. The movie itself was good, i could not tell that some of them were christians until half way through the movie.
OK, fair enough.
By the way, what movie were you there at the theater to see when these previews were shown??
Krispy
dear bible4life, please cut yourself some slack and others also.your expectations are higher then Gods.
maybe you are right brother
Bibleforlife, I saw the same thing you did and felt the same way. It was a preview for some "soul" movie with Queen Latifa. God hates what was shown there, so don't feel bad for sharing how the Holy Spirit was grieved at that "mixture".
My guess is that you, jimp, are speaking about her being "too sensitive on high standards" & didn't even see it for yourself, am I right? Happens too often, in my opinion, especially on forums, that we speak too soon without prayerfully considering what we are doing/saying and making sure we are right and online with God's heart before speaking on a subject. If Bibleforlife was grieved, why would we want to tell her "not to worry about it so much" (in essence).
Me, I want to stay sensitive to God's Spirit, see things how He sees them, & break for the things that grieve His Spirit, whether that seems "too much" for others or not. When I do, God is faithful to show me His Heart & speak to me by His Spirit. Have a prophetic gifting by chance, Bibleforlife?
Just curious. jimp, I mean no offense to you brother, but God has VERY high standards. He is Holy and can't stand to even look on sin, and the relishment of rebellion. Did you see the actual preview being referred to?
The movie, Courageous, was outstanding. Me and my wife went and saw it tonight. I'm not an "IC" believer anymore, so that stuff was different than my current state of belief of the NT church (Body of Christ), but they weren't preaching "go to church (building)" as a main premise/purpose, but be the Father/Husband/Brother God called men to be, so it wasn't a big issue. I have friends in the IC & know there are many in IC's who are genuine dear brethren. I used to be in ministry in one for years. I just don't personally believe today's IC i God's pattern/plan/purpose laid out in NT scripture-fyi
dear jeffmar, see how many post bible4life has posted...most were crying out,out of failure to maintain the standards of holiness that others and himself have set for him to succeed as a christian.Jesus is our success and His finished work is FINISHED.we are complete in Him. His yoke is easy and His burden is light.His anger wass only poured out on religeous men who made it too hard on His people to walk in.jimp sanctification comes from resting in Jesus.
I misunderstood what Bible4Life was saying... I thoght he meant previews OF Courageous. I now understand he meant previews he had to endure before Courageous started.
Yes... that is a problem, and I agree.
Krispy
jimp, I love you my dear brother, but I take it by your non-answering of my question, the answer is "no, I never even saw the preview Bibleforlife is referring to"?
Go see any movie... and if it's a clean Christian family movie you will still be subjected to previews of other movies that are sometimes quite bad.
Plus I question paying THAT much to a movie theater that shows wicked movies 99% of the time.
I dont know what the solution is either, I'm just saying that we need to be careful where our money goes. Obviously we cant always avoid the money God provides us going to people or organizations that we would prefer not to... but we dont need to financially support movie theaters.
Krispy
I know I will get slammed for watching this movie but "Gridiron Gang" Blessed me more than any so called Christian relate movie ever has. Yes the language was pretty bad, but I somehow was able to get by that, the ending was so awesome my grandson was brought to tears he was so Blessed by the movie.
hi, who cares about some movie previews,i am caring for bible4life.
Give them a break Krispy. It was only a season of special blessing, not a lifetime of no trial christianity.
Ruf
You're right... silly me for taking holiness so seriously. From now on I will wink at sin and encourage others to do likewise.
Krispy
This is why I rarely ever post on forums. People don't answer direct questions, everyone misunderstands everyone, everyone has their pitchfork out to "prove their point", etc. It was a great movie, the real support in buying tickets is for the makers of the movie, and the preview referred to grieved the Holy Spirit. That pretty much sums this whole thread up succintly.
God Bless you all brethren/sistren,
Jeff Marshall
No one questioned whether the movie was great. Even tho I questioned giving our money the theaters I also mentioned that I dont know what the answer is because we also want to support those who make good Christian movies. However, it IS a shame that in doing so we are subjected to wikced movie previews.
Thank you for not judging us. :-\\
Krispy
hi, kk how does holiness come into play at a movie.. is holiness something you do? is it how you dress?the only holiness is when God is on the scene and that is when you can have holy ground,holy smoke that fills the temple ,a holy bible. the only thing that you can do to make yourself holy is to die to self and have Gods eternal life within you.jimp
Yah my whole point was that the previews prior to the actual movie was really grieving to watch and promote rebellion of the traditional biblical values as good, but Courageous is one of a few that actually is not afraid to speak of Jesus and give the gospel and speak authoritative on the Bible for us to live by. Almost no Christian movies do that today at all. I have just started noticing it over the last couple of years with myself buying and watching christian movies that they are more moral movies without the true God presented. Good morals without the Biblical God equals bad morals because it is led in the flesh and not in God's Spirit. I am not saying that I have anyone to bragg of my perfection, but i see this a lot with the family christian store too which is toned down christian messages. If anyone hasn't seen pilgrims progress the new one or Time Changer I highly recommend them, they are very good.
loved Fireproof and Facing the Giants, I think Time Changer is THE BEST so far, the new Pilgrim's progress is great as well. Now, we just need to stop watching, we have to act our Christianity (THE ONE described in the bible)out :)
Blessings
My favourite movie is 'Fly wheel'. This movies conveys a very simple message. The story of this is funny and simple. I thinks they would really to remake of this. This remake of this movie really a good source of income.
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