Where are all the Godly threads?

Brother Paul West writes ..........

"Where are all the godly threads, the threads that transmit life"

I confess brother Paul, as a long time member of this forum, that I have zero desire to post what I would consider to be " Godly threads." I do believe there is a reason for that, but the very mention of it would be fruitless I believe. Anyway Paul, thanks for the question, I think perhaps you may have some inklings of why the " Godly threads," may have dried up, perhaps I am wrong in this. God bless you all on this thread, my time here is coming to an end I believe, but there has been great fellowship along the way............brother Frank

Re: Where are all the Godly threads?

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Actually, I would like to know where are all the good bible studies are?

Something that causes us to dig into the word, not one person who has all the answers but the whole group of us wanting to learn about what the scriptures are saying and if it doesn't point to Christ lock it up. If you know the answers before you start the bible study, what good is the study? It's just an agenda and this site prohibits those type of things.

A bible study is not studying about where Cain got his wife or what colour Samsons hair was before Delilah cut it.

Godly threads? I really don't know what that is per say.

I'll tell you the reason why we bicker and fight, we don't love one another. I don't know you and you don't know me. We have never come to the understanding that just because we don't see one another or know one another and we are hiding behind a monitor in cyberspace, we haven't grasped the fact that we are all in Christ Jesus.

Do I have to see you or know you to be loved by you? Where is faith?

Ask yourself, would you go up to a christian that you don't know on the street and just pounce on him and verbally assault him with the word because he doesn't know what you know? I can assure you you will never win him over. He will look at you as a genuine nut and you'll look at that as persecution.

I have spoken to many peoples, even Atheists and I never tore at them. I have sat with them and they would go into their doctrine and after they had settled down I'd insert a couple of words that would always stump them. They'd get angry, but I would sit there quietly and let them ramble.

We listen to Christians rattle on about their beliefs and we just listen to them rave, but even though we differ somewhat, I have always found to be true with most of them is that they have a faith in Christ and it's based upon faith through grace. And that is fine with me, they are my brothers, all the idiosyncrasies and hangups will be dealt with by God through His body and ministry. And if He chooses for me to correct them, great, but you know of all the years of being a believer, most of the time He always encouraged me to love them and pray for them and speak kindly to them.

When we get angry and get offended when someone steps on our toes concerning what we believe. That is a sure sign that there is something wrong with our doctrine. If we get nasty and our words turn to profanity or you wish you could say all that you'd like to say in a post but your restricted because of the rules, that too is a sure sign that something is wrong with what we believe.

Jesus would speak the word and the Pharisees got angry.

You see the Tradition of the Elders was wrought through the working of Satan. It was to attach itself to the Torah as an alternative to what the Law demanded, thus making the word of God of non affect. The Pharisees upheld these traditions more than the law of God. So when Jesus spoke against their "precious", they'd got angry and rightly so, they were of their father the devil.

Ergo if we hear truth and it makes us angry, we can take it to the bank that what we consider to be the truth may well be a tradition that is not birthed by God but Satan himself. Satan doesn't come to us with a bold face lie, he uses the word and just gives it a little twist to make it believable if he can get us to believe that little lie the next time it won't be that hard for him. He picks the moment, he chooses to pounce at a time when we are weak, or fear is there, any place that there is a weakness in the flesh.

Lisa, you testified:

Imho, that is what happens to Godly threads, no one godly responds to them! :/ (just saying)

tragically thats true, Lisa, btw, its me neil. HezWelling is short for a pen name of mine Hezekiah Wellington III, much love, neil

my Highland brother and mate Frank,

God bless you all on this thread, my time here is coming to an end I believe, but there has been great fellowship along the way............brother Frank

if you go, i go as well, love, neil

The godly threads may are leaving with the godly people who are leaving the forum.

Blaine

Re: Where are all the Godly threads? [by Godly people]

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Hey bro Neil, love you man :) Lysa always has insight I find, and my passionate brother Blane who wears his passion on his sleeve, and Neil, about as guiless a man as I have ran into, I love that about you Neil. Just spent the better part of the week down in Barnsdall with the conference call brothers and sisters , working amongst a group of very real people. A people who tend to keep their strengths quiet but are quick to tell you of their weaknesses and the latest tale of how the Lord delivered them. I love this honesty, a breath of fresh air. Not sure why I talk about that on this thread, but I know that the thread question remains, at least for me, unanswered. ..........bro Frank

as to the 'why' Godly threads sometimes dont go into multiple pages, there's no 'wrestling'....you get me?

for instance, if i was to start a thread on 1st John, and the section in chapters 3 and 4, where John unpacks the word, "love" multiple times, 33 if i'm correct from memory, and compare that to Paul's love chapter in 1st Corinthians, there's no implicit "wrestling" in that, there's nothing to make the HUMAN heart race, meaning man does not get to 'wrestle' with man, to argue about this 'doctrine' or that 'doctrine' nothing to get into the "i'm right/you're wrong" dichotonomy, and that dichtonomy means DRAMA follows. thats what the flesh enjoys, that heart racing trip to prove ones self RIGHT...ie self justification.

SELF----DRAMA-----> "i'm right, you're wrong"...its man wrestling with man, and since its on a cyber platform, people get to do it, without consequence. Because one is NOT face to face with another saved sinner, therefore the restraints of Godly civility CAN take a "time out".

its an evil age, and has been since Jesus breathed His last on that Tree. When i ponder "man wrestling with man", i zip right back to the Jabbok River, where Jacob wrestled with God, who in the final analysis was Jesus, a Christophany. Jacob wasnt wrestling with another "man", He was wrestling with God, because he was desperate, terrified about the eventual meeting with his brother Esau. That night, Jacob was given a New Name,Israel. He was changed...and obviously, given the platform, we cant witness a man wrestling with God, so in our futility we get a rush over wrestling with one another, which flies in the face of the Second Royal Commandment, "love your neighbor as yourself".

that face to face fellowship can never ever happen on a cyber platform. and the tragedy is many here MIGHT tell you, such threads, the contentious ones, are really "iron sharpening iron", but that doesnt ring right, because you cant SEE that other 'bar of iron', there's no FACE to it, just a bunch of words, and Godly love and restraint fall by the wayside. in the past, much to my shame, i've been guilty of this as well. to my shame. in fact there is a poster right now afoot, that would tell you, i'm guilty of such a sin, ie , restraint flying by the wayside. Now it appears to me, the dear man is of the "hebrew Roots" movement and is trying to foist up fences around the saved sinners. i wish no contention with him, i only asked two simple questions, are you a Jew?..and not of any anti-semitism, coz i'm a Jew who follows Jesus and i asked, very clear, 'are you of the 'hebrew roots' movement...asked him in two seperate threads...no answer.

which begs the point, how willing is someone, on a platform like this, willing to be transparent?...how willing is someone to authentic and real in God's Light, that Piercing Light, and clearly many people are afraid of being unmasked, to have that Light pierce right thru the brittle facade of religiousity, and reveal us how we really ARE.

i believe one of the greatest private ministries one can undertake is a fearless self examination in conjunction with God the Holy Ghost, and again i say, when this "inventory" is taken, to get real with God, and say the prayer of Evan Roberts, "bend us O LORD, bend us", and when you pray THAT, get your seatbelts, coz the Ride is about to get very bumpy, but in the end, you get closer to a Deeper Work IN Christ, and a Deeper Revelation of christ, a dying to self, and that isnt easy, because death is a hard thing, proud men die hard, as Frank Bartleman said, this death to self, death to flesh is hardest for the preacher man, becoz Heaven forbid they get their "clothes" ripped off and are shown to be as weak in the flesh as we all are!

thats what stands in the way of revival, whether it be personal, or in His Sovereign Nature, God saturated the very atmosphere of a perticular area, or assembly, the fact we are just scared to abase ourselves, to committ to a Baptism of Tears, to committ to a baptism of Fire...

simply put, Godly threads get little traction, becoz there's little to no flesh in them, and you can get the rush of bashing someone with little or no consequence, but get face to face with a group of followers of Jesus, in prayer, salted with tears...or get face to face with a basin and wash your brothers feet, and there will be consequence, said consequence being God unveiling His Mighty Arm, coming down and salting all with His Love, and all the muck and mire will melt away in this Intense Fire, and i guess thats a scary prospect for some folk.

MOSES didnt even want to appraoch the Mountain! that's how terified he was!...the very Moses who talked with God as a Friend, Face to face, yet he was terrified, think how Awe inspiring such a meeting with the Master would be!...look at Isaiah, prince of the Prophets, he started to cry out, "woe is me! i'm an unclean man with unclean lips', when he was allowed to see the Throne of God,,how much so, then a REAL meeting with God? and that real meeting is revival...and i dont speak of a meeting where you get the Holy Ghost thrill bumps, i'm speaking about standing before God naked blind and broken...and that is a heavy price to pay, but a price that MUST be paid, if we ever want to be witness to God coming down, and clearly we cannot recieve such just anonomously writing of it on a cyber platform. Every ministry, must at its foundations, have an active prayer ministry bathing it in Holy Ghost prayer. If it doesnt, it is a fact, such a ministry will go on the rocks and shoals. Thats not my vain imagination, thats Reality.

in conclusion, some may say the Azusa Street revival of 1906 was counterfeit, which is fine, people can say what they want, BUT, God put a man, flesh and blood, like you or me, in the midst, his name was Frank Bartleman. God gave Frank a gift of a facile pen, and Frank had been writing for various "Holiness" publications before the Revival, so that when God dame down on that humble barn Church in LA, nominally led by a one-eyed black preacher William Seymour, it was Frank's writing and testimonies in Holiness publications that drew hungry souls to drop everything, go to LA, for this Work..and if people want to think it waas 'about money' the only money collected was a freewill offering box in the rear of this HUMBLE building....my point is this; in His Way, God raises up men for a season, in revival, to be his laborers, and like John the Baptizer, they grow less, and Jesus grows more. for a season, these men burn like living Witnesses and testify to the Light, and then they are gone. David Brainerd burned in the wilderness,led many Indians in revival to Christ, then he was gone to be with the Lord at 29, Evan Roberts, at 26, used by God for revival in Wales, for a season, then Evan receded into the background, pressed out, and went into a private prayer ministry...out of the public, God hid him. Duncan Campbell used of God in the Hebrides from 1949-1953 in revival, and then he receded, and Jesus and Jesus ALONE was given the Glory.

thats why a forum on revival is good for ONE THING, not these sad spectacles of man wrestling with man over silly religious points of contention, but so that the Worms of Christ can indicate and testify when God comes down in His Sovereign Way in a searing Holy Ghost Revival. To DATE, this has not happpened BIG, but it will, and God willing, there will be no cameras, no 'superstar' preachers, no streaming links, no tatooed actors using their dirty hands to steady the ark, no talk of money and collections, no 'interview' in "Christianity Today", nothing of this ilk, only thousands of burdened souls being SWEPT into the Kingdom of God, and the men who God entrusts with such, will be burnt out and recede into the background....i hear the name "Barnsdall" and my heart leaps, and asks the question, could this be the Ember?

such is worthy of deep searching travailing prayer, thats maybe why God has you on here, thats maybe why God is keeping you here, so you can be a WITNESS!...but as the LORD leads,SMASH THE CAMERAS!!! NO FLESH! Only Jesus.
neil

A lot of good points on this one page, but at the same time, I feel the question has hurt those Godly folks that have posted Godly threads consistently ... to ask, where those threads are.
I gave the Devotional Thoughts section because it's where I go to be still and get strengthened, but I'm so very aware that those strengthening threads are scattered through-out.
To ask this thread-question is to say that "MY threads & posts are always Godly, but the rest of you people's threads aren't."

Some of us cannot post 'all' the details of our lives and don't want the 'attention' all of the time for our hurts, past or present anyways, as some would like, but we need the fellowship and to know that if we "agree to disagree" on any topic, that that doesn't set us up to be targets of more-than-obvious hatred.
I love the folks here but internet fellowship can never replace a local fellowship, I now realize, though my having to move from my home church has literally torn me to shreads. Being torn from my home and hometown has caused me to look for fellowship on the Net for comfort - but now I feel The LORD telling me that I won't find it here nor on phone calls with people that I haven't met, face to face.
I feel a spirit of hatred and competition in this arena that I've never felt in a local fellowship before.
My church, the Pastor & his wife and the gang there, know everything about me that I can't share with folks I meet online and only did 'in a very small part' on a thread recently. As I said, I don't need to be a focal point with my life story, past or present - though I'm in need of healing, very much so from the past and present.
"Unity" and hearts touching heart-to-heart 'without' any threats of future vengence for possibly not agreeing is what goes on at my Church & others - but not online.
Some folks have been down for so long that we/I may try 'shock therapy' from love mixed with lots of prayer and I've seen it work, but that's as far as it goes.
Vengence and hatred based merely on disagreeing with someone is foreign territory in any of the local fellowships I've been a part of, but I see it here, now.
I don't believe any of us will find that this method of 'fellowship' will benefit their "spiritual well-being" long-term - in fact, as of this thread - I feel it's more dangerous than anything else in "Christiandom" - so gird up your heart SI.

Ah, dear brother Neil, what a rich , rich answer. Thankyou brother. You wrote............

"thats why a forum on revival is good for ONE THING, not these sad spectacles of man wrestling with man over silly religious points of contention, but so that the Worms of Christ can indicate and testify when God comes down in His Sovereign Way in a searing Holy Ghost Revival. To DATE, this has not happened BIG, but it will, and God willing, there will be no cameras, no 'superstar' preachers, no streaming links, no tatooed actors using their dirty hands to steady the ark, no talk of money and collections, no 'interview' in "Christianity Today", nothing of this ilk, only thousands of burdened souls being SWEPT into the Kingdom of God, and the men who God entrusts with such, will be burnt out and recede into the background....i hear the name "Barnsdall" and my heart leaps, and asks the question, could this be the Ember?"

This , to me, is the closest to the answer I have been looking for. I am always looking for the " thrust." Men can make mistakes, but what is the " thrust," of their lives? What is the thrust of a ministry. Yes their are peripherals, but what is the thrust? What is the seat of affection? What burns at the heart of a man, or a ministry or a movement? Is it the burning heart of Jesus? Is, despite the obvious distractions of this world, the thrust true to the original calling? I have found in my own life that if I step outside of God's specific calling for me, I step into a desert. Now it may take several miles of steps before I look up and realize I am in a desert, but when I look up, I am in the wrong place for me personally. I believe, and this is just my opinion, that this forum may have wandered away from its original calling and is walking deeper and deeper into the desert.

I feel led to tell a story. A while back I was ministering to a couple whose marriage was in trouble. Intense anger on one side, and apathy on the other. The storm was raging. After four hours of talking and going though the problems and the grievances, we were no further on, in fact, it seemed like it may be worse. Then the other woman who was with me in ministering to this couple said this " I am out of my depth." And it immediately occurred to me that I was too. So I asked that all four of us would kneel on the floor together and come before the throne of God with exactly that thought, that we were out of our depths, that we desperately needed His help. As I prayed before the throne of grace, I could actually feel the storm subside, as we knelt there in our weaknesses and what we did not know, I could feel the peace come. The couple had a remarkable turn-around. The intense anger was gone, the apathy was gone and in had come love and peace, it was truly a beautiful thing to behold. It is okay not to know things and to acknowledge that.

Maryjane writes..........."I have thought over this thread but I do not really have answer for you. I am not really sure I know how to discern fully what might be a Godly thread." Excellent answer sister.

Diane writes................... "For sure nothing of quality automatically stays fresh. Typically organizations start with vision, and then the vision slowly gets bogged down in the status quo and replaced by administration. It declines and eventually dies – unless a new vision is birthed before the point of no return."

I think that plays into what I am feeling more than anything. When Paul Washer stood up at the Baptist youth convention several years ago and lit up a problem that burned at the heart of the organized church, he struck at the heart of something. Now what? He has Paul Washer followers. If we could just get Paul to our meetings we would be okay. Carter Conlon, another man used mightily of God, has his many followers, if we could just get him to our meetings. You can go on down the line and fill in the name. The vision for revival does not center on a man, in centers on the person of Jesus. This forum, I believe, used to burn with the heart of those who believed in revival and earnestly cried out to God for it and I believe that this was the original vision for the site. I believe that it does not burn in that way anymore. I think that it is very easy to get off track. I have a GPS in my car, and if get off the highway and am driving on the outer road that runs parallel to the highway, my GPS does not pick up on it, it still has me on the highway. I can be on that road for quite a long tome and begin to veer away from the direction of the highway and still it has me on the right road until finally it figures it out and suddenly blurts out " re-calculate." And it re-routes me back to the road that I was originally on.

I personally believe that is why there is such a blessing going on in Barnsdall right now, in fact brother Brian just called me up to let me know another " hard case," came to Christ this morning , and it was not in the meeting it was in the prayer meeting that we were holding every morning, praise God for a soul saved. The people that Brian is associated with have been praying together with a singular purpose now for years and God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. Anyway brothers and sisters, I was never looking for a five point fix for every post, I was thinking more globally as to the spirit of the forum and the ministry. Does it have the original vision? Does it still have the raw-ness of the calling? Has it gotton on an outer road that runs parallel to the original vision road and it is turning away? These are just my thoughts. I am not speaking with malice, I am just trying to express my thoughts without guile....................brother Frank

ps I feel that the first love scriptures of Revelation applies here. It is a telling thing to leave ones first love, whether its your Lord, your wife or your ministry and it can happen to all of us. Brother Edgar Reich shared that sermon with us in Barnsdall on Tuesday night I believe, check it out if you get a chance.

as the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the Ruach HaKodesh testifies to my spirit, your words made my heart leap.

reasoned, measured, gentle, loving words rooted in humility, and not the faux humility of the world, only God can burnish a soul like He has yours.

no ear tickly, no sickly sweet syrup come from my keyboard, but it takes courage and reality for a man to say, in these Matters,, "i don't know".

it takes a man with the Love of God in his heart to offer words of encouragement in the midst of the din of battle.

i COULD quote at least seven passages you wrote, where my soul murmured "amen", but i'm loathe to do so, as i dont want to appropriate your words, only to encourage you in return, that your words have been recieved by MY heart and soul. and softened my 'dismay'...no, they have demolished my dismay, and this kind of balm can only have been engendered from and by God, working through you, strengthening my feeble knees....and for that i am eternally grateful and offer my hand and heart to you in fellowship, neil

My favorite part of Questors post was this...........

"But I do not know all, and I have questions that I cannot answer when they come up, and need to ask others with differing experience."

I am also looking forward to going back over the threads that HmmHmm re-posted, because I know what brother Paul West was speaking off when he asked the question, meaning I know the heart behind the question, it was certainly never to say that only certain posts were Godly in the sense of frutiful. Many times hard questions have to be asked, first of ourselves and then others and as long as it is done by the leading of the Spirit and with a heart full of love I believe that we stay on solid ground. When our hearts are not right and we ask questions for reasons other than truth and love, then comes the sinking sand. So, in essence, two posters can ask the exact same question, one can lead to strife because of the spirit behind the question, and the other can lead to life because the one being questioned knows that the one asking the question wants and seeks the best for them........brother Frank

I believe apologies are in order nonetheless - and Thanks to some on here that do have true love in their hearts for this Site.
Because I'm on an unsecured wireless connection, I'm on 'borrowed time' and can't always get to all of the pages on a thread. I was able just now to read All of the posts on this thread and there are many good ones that are appreciated.
To ask where the Godly threads are and to insinuate that the Godly are not here to post them, is a form of Christian Persecution toward those Godly folks that are posting Godly threads, even while these negative posts were being posted - as I feel it all in my heart and not statements that I was ready to hear from those that I consider as older Brothers that I trusted. When women look to men for protection and the attacks come from them - it truly throws some of us females off kilter badly ... Whether it be outright name calling by complete strangers on here or by countless innuendoes.
To insinuate that SI is not seeking "Revival" in a proper way, after the Conference, with Carter Conlon, Edgar and company giving it their all, was a hurtful thing to say and endless suggestions on how to make SI 'better suited to revival', well, I don't believe Brother Edgar would give this thread a thumbs-up - how could anyone?
As some of us were praying both here and on the prayer-calls for "Unity" to come this year, in the face of so much world turmoil - here comes a thread like this - but I am Grateful that 'hmmhmm' picked up on it yesterday and posted what he did about 'Unity' on The Devotional Thoughts section and thank you also to you others on this thread that also carry the heart of that message with non-self-seeking hearts ~ until we see Him and each other face to face.

My internet days are over but not because I feel that I'm any better than anyone here - but I just don't feel I have "the gift" for this non-face-to-face form of communicating and never did.

LORD find us faithful until our end.

Hi brother HmmHmm,

I just re-read one of the " classic,' threads that you posted. It was entitled " Who is responsible for the current state of affairs." What I noticed in that thread was that despite the fact that it was asking hard questions, no one attacked any of the posters. It brought back good memories of debating with brother RobertW and brother Ron Bailey and Dohzman and many others. Hard questions were asked and answered, I am looking forward to reading some more of them.......... brother Frank

Brother Jimp writes.........

"hi, if we were to discuss the infallibility of the pope all would jump up and say how unreasonable this statement and doctrine is but when we come on this forum some of us feel that we have the whole truth in some matters"

Amen brother, for me, this is another step forward in the question that started this thread.

As someone who was raised in the Catholic church and came to Jesus at the age of 27, I always appreciate other brothers and sisters who have came to Jesus and come out of the Catholic church. The Catholic church never really had a hold of me at any time, but I was raised in an Irish Catholic community in Scotland and all of my education was Catholic. The reason I appreciate ex-Catholics who are now Christians is because to me they are modern day Bereans.

Every pre-concieved notion has to be re-considered. Every doctrine that was ever taught a Catholic has to be reconsidered in the light of Scripture. There are no sacred cows, its all on the table for any Catholic who experienced the trauma of leaving traditions that in some cases have been in place for not only centuries but millenia. One can only imagine the bravery of the Jewish believers who came to Jesus 2000 years ago whose tradition and interpretation of Scripture had been pretty much locked in place for thousands of years.

Now, what does any of that have to do with this forum and this thread? Well, us modern Christians also have traditions, interpretations, pre-conceived notions, and they are extremly powerful to the point of dis-unity. How can it be, in matters of non-essentials, that even ones salvation would be questioned? Does the sacred cow have that much power? Is ones interpretation of non-essentials more important that loving one another? Is it possible that our sacred cows are not that sacred? Is it possible that there is one more thing that we do not know? Can we be dogmatic in non-essential matters? An example for me would be pre-trib-rap. Now that is a huge and weighty matter. I do not believe in it. Yet I recognize the Scriptures that my brothers and sisters put forward in support of it, but I still dont believe in it.

That does not mean that they are less Godly or less holy or less righteous, it simply means that infallible me disagrees with infallible you. And if we can leave it at that and foucs on matters of eternity and work together and love each other despite the fact that I believe that we will all go through the tribulation then that is a good thing. Of course the Cal-Arm debate is another good example and Keith Daniels did a good job of exposing that.

So, what makes a thread " un-Godly?'in my opinion? One that is posted for reasons other than to Glorify God and to benifit the reader. Now, only the poster will know his own heart, whether its a post or a comment. There are obviously un-Godly comments and that would be if one attacks another, or tries to tear a person down, ignoring the subject at hand. Or, if one smells " blood in the water,' meaning seeing someone say something careless and then piling on with everyone else with comments designed to tear down and personally attack.

If we are dogmatic in matters that are non-essential to the faith, then pride reigns. The proud heart would say "well they are wrong, but if they get smart enough or holy enough or humble enough, they will arrive at my position sometime soon, or later or maybe never and maybe they are just not saved." The truly humble reply to matters of non-essentials is the Berean reply and when one has checked to make sure there are no sacred cows, no pre-conceived notions, no mere traditon and one still finds oneself with the same belief, recognize that since we are infallible and since it is non-essential then we shall put it to one side as far as the other brother or sister is concerned and follow hard after our concience and our interpration of that particular subject...........brother Frank

Jimp said:
"If we were to discuss the infallibility of the Pope all would jump up and say how unreasonable this statement and doctrine is but when we come on this forum some of us feel that we have the whole truth in some matters"

I agree.

We have all done this on several occasions.

There are some things that I know about and we all should have some degree of knowing about something and be firm about telling it.

However it's how it's told and by what motive.

I personally can't stand a thread that is started by someone who knows all the answers and is teaching everyone in the "classroom". To them I say, get your own forum and teach to your hearts content. SI is for sharing and discussing, it's for learning and discovering that other believers do hear from God and do speak to them and not just to one person.

I don't know about you but I have written up so many posts and spend about an hour on something only to stop short to ask myself, "Who do you think you are?" and the X is such an easy target for deletion.

Being retaught on a subject that you once knew by heart is a terrible prospect and very very humbling.