Yesterday as I prayed between 3-4 A.M. I offered up to the Lord a couple of things. First, I said that when my current renter moved out...I would offer up my extra bedroom to a Seminary student locally here who has a reputation of getting up at 4 A.M. and praying and needed a place to stay rent FREE to finish his studies. Second, I offered up my house to turn it into a meeting place to hold 4-7 A.M. morning prayer for any who wanted to come in during this time frame and pray with all who are here every morning. The main theme will be Revival throughout the world and praying for lost souls' salvations. This way Jesus will be here...for when 2 or 3 are gathered together....!!!!! I came home last night from work and my current renter told me that he was approved for a house loan and will be out shopping for a place! So it looks like he could be leaving in the 1-3 months and we of course will stay friends and I will continue to pray for his salvation (besides...he is the best renter/roommate I can remember ever having). I was glad to hear his good news and sat and pondered....what is going on Lord?Hopefully God's plan is for both to happen....until we have too many people to fit in this place and we have to move to a bigger place to meet!!! I just wish there was a Church here that had a reputation for being open 24/7 for prayer....now that's an idea to take to Prayer!!First, God motivates me to start praying at 4 A.M. and then starts burdening my heart for the lost souls that no one is praying for. Then He gives me the ideas above and I pray for them. Suddenly, my renter/roommate gives me notice....what's going on Lord?!!? I am starting to think that he is going to grant a Revival!!!Time will tell...love serving God...it is full of the unknown!PJ
What is going on?
Beloved, you can fill a dining hall with "saints" when you conduct a covered dish dinner. But hold a prayer meeting and you may just be alone. This is the age of apostacy, and most are just too busy to pray. Their life is not a prayer. They do now walk in fellowship with God. So if they were to come to a prayer meeting, it would not provide them with the entertainment thier carnal soul so craves. I'm not at all trying to discourage you. Quite the opposite. Keep on, even if it is only you. Just remember, there were only 8 people on the ark. Only 8. How few will be in that number when the Lord comes again? God knows. But it wont' be a crowd. This is the day of apostacy, not revival. Anyone can have a personal revival any time they choose. All they need do is repent. Take their life to the cross and leave it there. Put to death the desires of the flesh, and live 24/7 for God. That is God's desire. When our desire lines up with His desire, then we are in revival. Please pray for me, that I can take such a stand and live such a life. Thank you and God bless you.
Sure not many will show up initially, but at least those who do show up are genuine. Would you rather start up a prayer meeting with 200 impostors or 2 genuine saints? Which group will hear from heaven? Time will tell. May God bless your mornings PJ. :)
...of course you are right. A while back I ran an early morning prayer meeting online, from 5-6 am. in a chat room. I usually had 5 or 6 from different parts of the world. 5 or 6. We had some real spirit filled meetings and prayers answered. But one by one they just quit coming. Sigh. I would love to see a prayer room live here. I'd even be willing to host it. It's worth the sacrafice to get up that early in the morning and pray.
I followed Prayer4AM's leading and went to prayer twice last week at 4am, and I have never suffered such intense spiritual warfare! :--) whenever the enemy comes at ya like that, you know the Spirit has you doing SOMETHING right. So, I endeavour to keep right at it this week.I like the whole idea, prayer room, paryer at 4am, crazy radical prayer with just a few hard core Spirit filled saints. I pray for you all right now.In Christ, Neil
Beloved, you can fill a dining hall with "saints" when you conduct a covered dish dinner. But hold a prayer meeting and you may just be alone. This is the age of apostacy, and most are just too busy to pray. Their life is not a prayer. They do now walk in fellowship with God. So if they were to come to a prayer meeting, it would not provide them with the entertainment thier carnal soul so craves.I'm not at all trying to discourage you. Quite the opposite. Keep on, even if it is only you. Just remember, there were only 8 people on the ark. Only 8. How few will be in that number when the Lord comes again? God knows. But it wont' be a crowd. This is the day of apostacy, not revival. Anyone can have a personal revival any time they choose. All they need do is repent. Take their life to the cross and leave it there. Put to death the desires of the flesh, and live 24/7 for God. That is God's desire. When our desire lines up with His desire, then we are in revival. Please pray for me, that I can take such a stand and live such a life. Thank you and God bless you. Wow that was very negitive. I do understand : 1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; But I also understand: Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: You almost act like its impossible for a revival. That the only revival that can happen is within you. Yes i understand thats where is needs to start but i still belive what is said in Acts is not dead and gone.. its still happening (or going to happen). I understand the world will wax worse and worse but that has nothing to do with where the church CAN be. I know its not where is needs to be but you seem so doubtful that revival can even happen.
I just wish there was a Church here that had a reputation for being open 24/7 for prayerWe have the temple open 24/7 already through Jesus Christ. Our body is a temple.Not to nitpick, but we need to remember that even if we aren't in a fancy church building, God always wants to hear from us, and for us to be thinking and loving Him always, in spirit and in action. Another sad fact of church thinking is so often, the building is seen as their private property, not God's. I know of one person escorted by police off "their private property" which says on the outside is a christian church of God. I am so glad we don't need church buildings to talk to God, he hears prayers even in prison.
...but PreachParsly, we have been in the last days since Jesus was here last. His spirit has been poured out. We are now in the era of apostacy. If one does not recognize that, he/she may be a part of it. Jesus said that at His second coming, it would be as in the days of Noah. Beloved, there were only 8 on the Ark. Yes, yes, God can an will do as He chooses. I'm certain that He has things all planned out in ways we never dreamed of, even though we rightly understand in part some of what He has already said about it. Do I desire to see revival? Oh yes, I sure do. I want to see the real thing. Having experienced the manifest presence of God, I so strongly desire more of Him. I will not get what I desire until He is all I seek. Matthew 6:33. To pray for revival indicates to me that someone recognizes that some are in need of reviving. Reviving from what? Finally, revial is God's choosing, not mans. I like what Tommy Tenney once said, "you can no more hold a revival, than you can a hurricane". Selah. I marvel at assemblies who hang out a sign announcing "Revival" on such and such a date. What kind of testimony is that? How do they know that God is going to revive this dead bunch. Are they willing to repent and turn away from the rudiments of this world? I'm sorry if I seemed negative. I hope that what you understood to be negativity is actually grief. Grief over my own personal carnality, and that of those who in mass make up the church today in the USA. I so appreciate your comments. Thanks for sharing. :-o
Thanks LahryFinally, revival is God's choosing, not mans. I like what Tommy Tenney once said, "you can no more hold a revival, than you can a hurricane". Selah. I marvel at assemblies who hang out a sign announcing "Revival" on such and such a date. What kind of testimony is that? How do they know that God is going to revive this dead bunch. Are they willing to repent and turn away from the rudiments of this world?You can be most certainly sure that anything but that will be happening there, seems to me that God would do the 'date setting' without any advanced notice. If I recall correctly most of the advance notice was either in judgment to come or to wait...(Acts) Not out of the realm of possibility, but that smacks of presumption and arrogance or maybe just an over exuberant faith...This is coming out all wrong, what am I trying to say?I guess it still seems that largely the greater numbers are still trying to get God to go along with their program(s) instead of us trying to go along with His. Even the prayers I have found personally often times are so self-centered or misconstrued as to just what prayer is. I am talking about myself here. More and more am finding that I don't even know how to pray..rightly. This came to mind this morning; "If I cannot pray Gods thoughts I would rather not bother."Who's will is it that we are pursuing?What is revival but that we come into agreement with what the Lord is doing, personally as well as corporately?I too understand your grief, but I also believe there is a 'revival' going on right now. It's not advertised, it's small and spread out all over the place, in quiet rooms and even churches with walls and those without, like I experienced this past weekend with a brother preaching to the blessed saints who are homeless. Not dramatic, not with giant 'signs and wonders', but with seemingly 'small' little miracles like heart conversion, sad that gets such little attention isn't it?We have even out of our own number here street preachers, who are doing under the radar type work that is bold, courageous, who to the eye's I am sure of many in the world of Christendom would think is producing little, but I will gander an opinion that it is doing much. We have become such an instant-cup-of-soup generation, that unless it is loud and over the top and happens within our little half hour attention span it's assumed worthless.No sir, I may be a fool, but from what I have observed just from the likes of our 'own' here and with that their hearts and the sharing that comes forth out that, the rumblings you hear in other parts of the world, the reports of persecution... the desire for Truth in the inward parts...It may not be advertised, it may just be 'The silent revival', simmering and who knows if it will turn to a boil. But maybe it doesn't need to. Knowing the way things tend to go anymore, it might be the worst thing that could happen, a big 'production' in the eyes of the world and then 'poof' it's over, business as usual, just a bunch of emotionalism... what's next?Said this before, I don't know what is going on, but something is definitely happening.
This house shall be empty soon of everyone but me!!! My roommate said for sure .... one way or another he plans on being on his own by February 9th give or take a few days. My Sister called 1/2 hour after my roommate's good news about the house he put a bid on being accepted...she has found a home to move in (her current one was condemned), employment finally (been unemployed and looking hard for several months...she's mentally challenged) and will be able to stay in the neighbor where her grown children live (I had offered her my home if she needed a place to live and paying the bills she asked helped on paying). My roommate was surprised (I would even say shocked) when I offered to help with the down payment on his new home if he needed it....I told him....it's only my burial fund....but now one way or another God will make sure I am taken care of even in proper burial (hopefully a Pine Wood box and dropped in the ground with no services). Then at the same time frame Comcast Cable sent me my new Cable bill....I was shocked....so I discussed it with my roommate and told him I would be removing everything off the TV when he moves (since he watches it and does pay rent). Shopping for Rabbit Ears for the TV so in case I need the weather one day. There is no way I am going to spend $52.00 plus dollars on TV a month. I barely watch the thing...and it's not worth that kind of money and it's not worth $15.00 for their lowest quote. Soon the Christmas gift TV will be moved into storage and out of my living room. The dog gone thing is huge and yes it was a nice gift and watching the Passion of Christ on it was unbelievable....and it will be a great thing to use to watch other Spiritual Videos like Brother Sun, Sister Moon or The Hiding Place....Now....I will definitely wait on the Lord to see if this place is too stay empty. Most of the furniture goes (I like life simple and without stuff) so now I need to find folding chairs!!! I remember Dawson Trotman of the Navigators in the book Daws ... it talked of the discouragement he went through with people coming and fading away while he would continue to pray outdoors in all kinds of weather. Any ideas on how to get the news out of the 4-7 A.M. Prayer Meetings that will be held here 7 days a week? Praying for Revival throughout the world and the prayer request for our lost loved ones' salvations.PJ
Well, Prayer4am, may I suggest that you not pray at 4 am. What? That's right. Jesus said, "If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me". Why not worhsip from 4am till whenever and see what happens. Go to the highways and biways and bid them to come in and worship. God's love goes beyond our needs, beloved. If He did not spare His only Son, what would He withhold from those who will worship Him? Mike, Praise the Lord. I would that you were close to Louisiana so I could visit you now and then, and we could grieve over our weaknesses together, and worship over His mercy and grace. Glory be to God, now and forevermore, amen.
You may suggest all you want that I not pray at 4 A.M. The Devil himself has suggested it...even tried his best to put me back to sleep. My best friend suggests all the time. I hear the suggestions and know it is like Peter was to Jesus at times...get behind me Satan.I would no soon disobey God and what he has told me to do. I used to fight God....it's not a fight I choose to do anymore. I gladly obey and for the first time in my life I am happy!May I suggest to you .... stop being so in the world and in yourself and spend more time with God in prayer for others. We have enough Churches and Ministers who do not pray and do not have life that God wants to give out. Dr. Cho prays and look what has happened to his Church that he ministers to....and the Mountain that is known as "The Prayer Mountain" in Korea! Jesus was known to Pray and pray a lot before his work....and then he followed God and did his bidding....he then went out.....As a diamond is used to sharpen another diamond....I just loved reading your suggestion....it makes me realize how much God loves me! Don't you love being used by God even when you don't know it!!! God is Good!!!PJ
I'm sorry, you seem to have took what I said the wrong way beloved. I'm so thrilled to know you and know that you pray so earnestly. Please include me in your prayers.What I was trying to aritculate, but failed miserably is that often times, time spent in private worship, praise, and thanksgiving get's more accomplished that just hitting on God with a list. Of course I've never heard you pray and have no basis or ability to qualify your prayers. I thank God that you are praying and also encouraging others, especially me, to pray even more. But if people refuse to pray, then they have no ministry. Praying has to be two way to be effective. God has to have time to speak to us as well. It is in hearing His voice that we get our marching orders and He defines our walk after the Spirit. Again, I'm so sorry I offended you. That was not my heart. You are such a blessing. Please forgive me.
Ah...What could ever drag me away from being amongst the saints! We are such a mixed up collection of misfits, peculiar people indeed!And you just got to love it...The struggles of word-smiths or wannabes. Comforting to know that we are not alone in semi-failed attempts at giving expression by stringing together individual letters into some kind of cohesive whole.But the hearts shine through, the humility, the forgiveness, the want of taking and giving of correction, so that we might thereby grow into that glorious image that was promised. It's showing, in various ways, telling in what isn't often said.May I suggest to you .... stop being so in the world and in yourself and spend more time with God in prayer for others. We have enough Churches and Ministers who do not pray and do not have life that God wants to give out. Dr. Cho prays and look what has happened to his Church that he ministers to....and the Mountain that is known as "The Prayer Mountain" in Korea! Jesus was known to Pray and pray a lot before his work....and then he followed God and did his bidding....he then went out.....No reason to get snippy brother and sense that the intention may not have came out the way Lahry wanted it to as he stated. But also need to point out that I would urge you to look into Dr. Cho, am not totally up on everything that he espouses but have heard him speak in my old church and there are some very extra-biblical teachings, the whole "Fourth Dimension" and what not. Look into and draw your own conclusions, but this is not someone I would suggest you sit under. Be a good Berean and "see if these things are so"Having the worlds largest church does not necessitate the blessing of the Lord. Just a reading of The Revelation of Jesus Christ and to His displeasure with 6 of the 7 churches serving as a reminder.A couple of related links:http://www.cephasministry.com/paul_yonggi_cho.htmlhttp://www.apologeticsindex.org/c17.htmlThis is dangerous stuff brother, perhaps I am not being forceful enough after reviewing this again.Lahry,Thanks for being here brother. You are bringing much to us all. Appreciate your heart and love for the saints and knowing that you have been around this internet block more than a few times shows. Would love to come visit where you are, in fact would love to just go and visit all the 'churches' all over the world, not necessarily the 'buildings' but the temples, where the Holy Spirit dwells! (Hey, am I in the 'house/church thread?...no, I guess not, but that does seem to apply)A tour of the 'SI-ites'!, uh,oh..sense that cult word sneaking about ;-)
By the way..I remember Dawson Trotman of the Navigators in the book Daws ... it talked of the discouragement he went through with people coming and fading away while he would continue to pray outdoors in all kinds of weather. Think that would be to be expected PJ. Recall that a revival once sparked from only two ladies given over to intercession. Any ideas on how to get the news out of the 4-7 A.M. Prayer Meetings that will be held here 7 days a week? Praying for Revival throughout the world and the prayer request for our lost loved ones' salvations.You may have part of the answer from your own words there; "Wait on the Lord". Seems simplistic, but the Lord sees your desire brother and think it is a mighty noble thing you are after here. Just want to encourage you PJ, there may be only one or there may be many so either way don't be discouraged. If I was in your neighborhood I would be right there with you, Lord willing and on that note if this is the Lords will for you got a feeling He will make a way for them to come and join you.
I did not take it wrong....we were just chatting on here. And I was not offended in the least bit. I see my typing after only 1 cup of coffee so early could of used some re-thinking before typing. It was suppose to be light hearted reading for you.Did it wake you up?PJ
"sounded" snippy to me brother and no, very well relaxed thank you...now I am sounding 'snippy' ;-) "Barbed" comes to mind, should know well enough, have gone fishing quite early in the morning before the coffee has kicked in as well here...Hope this doesn't turn into a coffee thread now :-)
Recall that a revival once sparked from only two ladies given over to intercession. Mikey, you're talking about the two elderly half blind saints in the Hebrides Islands?yes?if so, I LOVE that story, in fact I love reading or hearing EVERYTHING about the Hebrides Revival.know why?.....coz it's this far off corner of the world, rural, windswept, LONELY place.Some of my favorite passages in the Bible, are detailing where Jesus went off to a LONELY place to pray.lonely....wilderness places, the other side of the Jordan, it always seems like the places where the spirit is nurtured and filled with the Spirit, are quiet lonely wilderness places....You know what might be a nice place to hike into to seek the Face and the Will of the Lord?the Ventana wilderness...right opposite of Big Sur.the Hebrew word for wilderness or desert is midbar, its also the title for Numbers be midbar .."In the Desert"....do you know what the Title for Deuteronomy is? in Hebrew?"elleh Ha de'barrim"..."These are the Words".I didnt write that to swing my knowledge about, but to say that, when you voice those words, there's Power there...you can feel it, its supernatural and God-breathed;"elleh ha De-barrim"Isnt Jesus wonderful?Back to the two elderly saints, its shows us that a guy (or girl)shut up in his prayer closet for one hour can change the world. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!!!GLORY!
Peggy & Christine Smith: They Prayed A Promise In a small cottage by the roadside in the village of Barvas lived two elderly women, Peggy and Christine Smith. They were eighty-four and eighty-two years old. Peggy was blind and her sister almost bent double with arthritis. Unable to attend public worship, their humble cottage became a sanctuary where they met with God. To them came the promise: "I will pour water upon him that is thirsty and floods upon the dry ground," they pleaded this day and night in prayer. One night Peggy had a revelation, revival was coming and the church of her fathers would be crowded again with young people! She sent for the minister, the Rev. James Murray MacKay, and told him what God had shown her, asking him to call his elders and deacons together for special times of waiting upon God. In the same district a group of men praying in a barn experienced a foretaste of coming blessing. One night as they waited upon God a young deacon rose and read part of the twenty-fourth Psalm: "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? Or who shall stand in His holy place? He that hath clean hands and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord." Turning to the others he said: "Brethren, it seems to me just so much humbug to be waiting and praying as we are, if we ourselves are not rightly related to God." Then lifting his hands toward heaven he cried: "Oh God, are my hands clean? Is my heart pure?" He got no further, but fell prostrate to the floor. An awareness of God filled the barn and a stream of supernatural power was let lose in their lives. They had moved into a new sphere of God realization, believing implicitly in the promise of revival. But before leaving Peggy and her sister, another story must be told which further illustrates the holy intimacy of this woman with her Lord. When the movement was at its height Peggy sent for Duncan, asking him to go to a small, isolated village to hold a meeting. The people of this village did not favor the revival and had already made clear their policy of noninvolvement. Duncan explained the situation to Peggy and told her that he questioned the wisdom of her request. "Besides," he added, "I have no leadings to go to that place." She turned in the direction of his voice, her sightless eyes seemed to penetrate his soul. "Mr. Campbell, if you were living as near to God as you ought to be, He would reveal His secrets to you also." Duncan felt like a subordinate being reprimanded for defying his general. He humbly accepted the rebuke as from the Lord, and asked if he and Mr. MacKay could spend the morning in prayer with them. She agreed, and later as they knelt together in the cottage, Peggy prayed: "Lord, You remember what You told me this morning, that in this village You are going to save seven men who will become pillars in the church of my fathers. Lord, I have given Your message to Mr. Campbell and it seems he is not prepared to receive it. Oh Lord, give him wisdom, because he badly needs it!" "All right, Peggy, I'll go to the village," said Duncan when they had finished praying. She replied, "You'd better!" "And God will give you a congregation." Arriving in the village at seven o'clock they found a large bungalow crowded to capacity with many assembled outside. Duncan gave out his text: "The times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent." When he had finished preaching, a minister beckoned him to the end of the house to speak again to a number of people who were mourning over their sins - among them, Peggy's seven men!
Good Morning.This was a blessing to read! I have seen God's faithfulness and power when in Boot Camp as the religious petty officer the company commanders had me pray each night for the weather they needed for the next day. I would pray out loud as soon as the lights went out. They the next morning we all listened to the weather and uniform of the day announcement. Every day they annouced the exact weather and uniform of the day for many weeks that the commanders asked me to pray for. The very last night the request was put in so that we would wear our rain coats the next day because the barracks were being inspected. Rain coats usually cost the commanders a lot of grief since they were rarely folded correctly and they did not want to spend their time to ensure that all of our's were perfect. I prayed as usual that night. The next morning though it looked stormy like, the announcement did not include wearing rain coats. The commander looked up to me as he was helping the guy who slept below me ensure his rain coat was folded correctly. He said, "Well I guess there isn't a God after all." Five minutes later roughly, they called over the P.A., "Uniform of the day is amended. Wear Rain Coats. Wear Rain Coats." I looked at the commander and he was white as a ghost and said to him, "Hmmm, I guess there is a God after all." He did not talk to me the last couple of days that we were there.One of the guys from Boot Camp met up with me several weeks after our time together in Chicago in school. He said to me, that he was impressed how God listened to me. I said that God listens to everyone who prays and is walking with him. Though my life was not through it's rebellious stage yet....I never forgot what the Lord did. It's one of the factors that brought me back to serve him permantly. The power of prayer...the faithfulness of God.PJ
Thank you for the information on Dr. Cho. I have taken the time to read it this morning. I have also taken quite a bit of time to read about him years ago. The links you have provided do not back up their arguments with him. They point fingers and I am not an expert to discuss what has gone with Dr. Cho in the last several years. I have not read the book, "The Fourth Dimension" either. Nor, do I have the time. I barely have enough time to finish the final editing on the book I am writing.All I Do Know is.........when a Man and/or a Woman of God's takes the time to really Pray daily, walk with God down his path for them, follow his commands and spend time with God in unselfish prayer....that person's calling will be blessed. I was raised under a Preacher who did not finish high school....never went to seminary....and we never knew what he was going to preach on....he stayed in his study and prayed until time to give the sermon....and we never knew when Church was going to end either. Once he told us that he had no sermon and felt God lead him to dismiss the service and for all of us to spend more time with our families. The church was packed when this minister was in the church. We then got a "Real" preacher....and he did not pray much and we knew days ahead what the sermon was on...and church got out at noon....and the people left....and the church almost died. You can always tell if a person really prays a lot with God....he does not call his name out every other sentence....he talks to him like in a conversation between the two of them. Those that do not pray a lot show it during "Ego" prayer...they say "Father","God","Lord" so many times that if you really listen to them you would wonder if God knew what his real name was. None of us would listen to an idiot that called out our name every other sentence during a conversation. It would Not be necessary. But God does not give up on them and our prayers should hold them up and pray what we see needed too.Prayer is God's gift to us. He created us to spend time with him! And it's the only place on this earth I feel like I belong...in God's presence. In all my years I have always wondered what is wrong with me....never felt at home in all the countries, states, cities that I traveled and/or lived in. Not until God called me to 4 A.M. Prayer time did I feel like I belonged somewhere in this earth. Where this life is going to lead...I do not know...those that I will receive blessings from and those that will sharpen me by grinding me....will be nice to see. Got to get out the door...time for church!!!PJ
Mikey, you're talking about the two elderly half blind saints in the Hebrides Islands?Yes sir-re!Here's the message: Revival On The Isle Of Lewis Duncan CampbellYou know what might be a nice place to hike into to seek the Face and the Will of the Lord?the Ventana wilderness...right opposite of Big Sur.I'm game! Oh man I would just love to go backpacking again. Once packed into the Desolation Wilderness, which is an interesting name for it is anything but 'desolate'. It's up behind Lake Tahoe, Emerald Bay to be exact. At 10,000 feet there is still odd, large patches of snow in July! It is something that I have never ever forgotten, even as a semi-pagan in conduct then, was giving glory to God, just breathtaking beauty... Think it's a couple of miles in and straight up from about 5,000-6,000 feet to the top.And certainly Big Sur would be more of the same I am sure. Being that there are generally no people when you get out there we could fulfill the latter part of Mar 16:15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."(Fodder for another thread, always wondered about that 'creature'...)Isn't it strange how, well at least I do, often think of 'wilderness' as 'barren'? But if anything the quiet, the silence...It is the sweetest sound! Indeed a place to get nurtured in spirit and pray, but also a place to worship!Isnt Jesus wonderful?Oh...Been in His 'Book' this morning, namely the one with His title on it...Worthy is the Lamb who was slainTo receive power and riches and wisdom,And strength and honor and glory and blessing!
Hey PJ,Blessings to you brother. As to Mr. Cho, I too am with you in not having the time to delve into it all. There is enough to raise some red flags and that is all that was intended to be pointed out. Certainly you have enough discernment in this area. Enough said.But this jumped up and grabbed me with a hearty "Yes I agree!";Those that do not pray a lot show it during "Ego" prayer...they say "Father","God","Lord" so many times that if you really listen to them you would wonder if God knew what his real name was. None of us would listen to an idiot that called out our name every other sentence during a conversation. It would Not be necessary. But God does not give up on them and our prayers should hold them up and pray what we see needed too.It can become rather distracting and times where the sense of a 'professional' sounding prayer, well articulated, punctuated with that repetitiveness over and over...makes one wonder who this is being done for. Probably one of the most sincere times of prayer I ever experienced was with a dear elderly lady at my church. They had opened up the front at the end of the service for those who just wanted to pray or be prayed for and she knelt down and just started to weep and groan, I put my arm around here and wept with her. I don't have the foggiest idea what it was she was in travail about and yet I did..she reached back and put here arm around me and we stayed there for I don't know how long. Afterward she just looked at me and said 'Thank you', I just nodded and said the same, nothing else needed to be said.But I wonder also if on the other hand it is just nervousness, praying before people when you are not used to it. But you can generally tell the difference between the heartfelt and the fanciful.I was raised under a Preacher who did not finish high school....never went to seminary....and we never knew what he was going to preach on....he stayed in his study and prayed until time to give the sermon....and we never knew when Church was going to end either. Once he told us that he had no sermon and felt God lead him to dismiss the service and for all of us to spend more time with our families. The church was packed when this minister was in the church. Reminded of McChenye there.That we had more Preachers that listened to the Lords leading like that...Great stuff PJ, really liked the 'Boot camp' earlier. Scripture for you my comrade in prayer:Rev. 5:8
I printed up that "Resting is the Required obedience", read it, and asked God to bury it in my heart. Thanks for the heads up, and God bless you dear brother.Neil
A few days ago in my 4 A.M. prayer time, I felt led to change my prayers concerning Jerusalem and Israel. So I changed my prayers and continued on. A few hours later I was listening for the weather on the TV with my roommate and heard the news concerning Israel...it happened exactly as I had felt led to pray. What a way to start the day!Then this morning I set my alarm to get up at 2 A.M. to feed the baby parrots and figured I would pray afterwards then return to sleep. The Lord awoke me shortly after 1 A.M. and I prayed until the it was time to feed the babies. Then I went back into prayer until 4:40 A.M. The point; when I am with God...I lose track of time. On days where I am scheduled to be somewhere at a certain time, I actually will have to set an alarm clock to let me know when to wrap up the prayer time! Hours seem like minutes when communing with God.But let's face facts....there is really no time like being before God's face in prayer on your knees (and sometimes in other positions due to getting older!). Jesus told his disciples to Pray least they fall into temptation....and he had just come from taking time out to go to his place to pray before God. Prayer changes things and the lack of prayer changes things too! Those that lack in prayer will find the Devil getting a foot hold and opening the door wider to put more of the world in our lives. The more one gets alone with God in prayer and really prays...the more the Devil flees from you and the less of the world will be in our lives. I like to add in even more prayers while going through my daily life/chores....sometimes just to say "I love you" or "thank you"....other times it's to ask forgiveness for my sharp tongue or not stopping to help someone out. Other times, I stop to say a prayer for someone in need the moment I find out....I shut my eyes if I can and bring the need up immediately in silent prayer...least I am guilty of forgetting later.In July, I have my 2 weeks of vacation scheduled right after the 4th of July!!! That gives me 2 extra days on my vacation....16 days total!!! And do you know where I am going to spend my vacation?!!!??? God willing and I life....I am going to spend that entire time shut up alone with God in prayer....praying for everyone on my list, praying/fasting for lost souls, and for a Revival world wide. How can I take a vacation and go spend up a storm of money when my loved ones are running to spend eternity with my Uncle Al in Hell? How can I spend money on myself like I used to do all the time when Wycliffe Bible Translators need money to print the scriptures for the first time for a group of people? How can I not be before God pleading and praying for the souls of lost loved ones...especially those that No One prays for? NO. I felt led to cancel my plans to go to Israel for my vacation and spend it with God in prayer. You have to do what you feel led to do. You cannot do any less. But my calling is not your calling....each one of us needs to listen to Holy Spirit and his teaching for us. Do you know who the Holy Spirit is? I'll tell you what he told me many years ago when he called me in my dream and we talked....he is the sensitive side of God!!! Want proof? Get out your Bible and read .... it's in the Old Testament time and time again....not to mention the New Testament. The Sensitive Side of God! And if you need an earthly example....in a marriage....the wife is the sensitive one usually. And if you think I'm kidding...see what happens when you forget her birthday or anniversary.....you know the common phrase...dog house?.....Well folks ..... for a deeper time in prayer for you busy folks.....get a portable alarm clock and set it to get up and pray....and set it for when you must quit praying in case hours seem like minutes and you need to get to work! Lastly.....can you add one more person to your prayers? How about the least desirable person you know....maybe the homeless bum on the street, or the drug addict...or maybe your neighbor. I'm a neighbor to some and I was homeless twice, years ago living on the street....your prayers might raise up another John Wesley or Mother Teresa! YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS WORLD.PJ
A couple of days ago, I received a phone call at work. My roommate moves out into his own place up the street on Tuesday of this week. And my sister called and needs to move in. She will be coming to stay tonight and moving her stuff in Wednesday. Now if anyone knew my sister, she is a challenge, she loves drama and causing as much trouble as she can. She loves to lie and see how much fighting she can cause. Though I promised my mother on her death bed that I would always look out for my sister and her kids and would take them in if they ever needed me. My sister was mentally challenged growing up and the results of the drugs they used on her to bring her to normal left her extremely angry.This shall be a challenge. Though knowing her...she will only stay maybe 2-3 months at the most until she gets her own place down here. So it seems to me that God wants her to personally see the change he has caused in me. Plus, she will see the 4 A.M. prayers. And I shall see what Mother Teresa said once on a TV interview that I saw when I was not saved....with Jesus inside there is peace...let nothing rob you of His peace within you. I have warned everyone that knows me that if at anytime they see me with my eyes closed and/or my hands raised up to let me alone....for I am ensuring not to lose my peace and keep the Devil from getting a strong hold through anger. It might take 5 seconds...it might take a trip to the bathroom for a 10 minute break alone with God. Praying and seeking....taking to God alone any problems...discussing with him Alone problems with others and claiming his promise to love the unlovable through the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5) like Corrie ten Boom used to claim preaching!!!You cannot truly pray for a soul's salvation if you do not love that person no matter how much they grind you to the wheel. Are you willing to die to see your loved ones saved? Are you willing to pray through it all to see the lost saved? This is my God who is dealing out the hand that I am to be prepared with...shall I complain? or shall I take the hand and thank the Lord? If we do not learn the lesson the first time...it will keep coming back to us in other ways until we do. No one can grind me as bad as my sister can...but no one can love my sister like I can through the Holy Spirit! And we all know who wins! Look out Devil cause you are about to lose another one from walking into Hell!!! And a personal note please....for those of you who love to bend God's ear....please pray for me for strength and love....and for my sister that God will pour his Holy Spirit on my sister's heart and salvation will be acccomplished. What a witness to many when my sister claims the glory of God's love in her heart!In Advance...I thank you for praying for me on this.PJ
What an interesting time the last couple of days has been! The moving is all done. My old roommate is moved into his new place and settling in. Though he has freely admitted that he thinks he moved in haste and did not do so wisely. I reassured him that all will work out. My sister has moved in and I am learning to naturally keep my mouth on guard so as not to give her ammunition to cause any problems with her mouth for me with others. You know what whispers can do for sport.The first four books of J. Edwin Orr's has arrived and I have finished the first book. What a blessing it is to see someone provided for like Corrie ten Boom's travels through life were!!! God is constant!It's amazing how many people think that I should not get up at 4 A.M. to meet with God first before starting the day. And it's even more amazing the time with God during this time! Not only have I seen great and small answers to prayer, but I have also learned to pray even better due to the Holy Spirit speaking with me concerning those that I need to raise up! God has even done wonders during this time together that would make some people's hair turn white. I find my time with God at 4 A.M. to be like nestling up under God's arm and getting a moment to bend his ear while he comforts me. He brings to mind the way I pray and how it should be. Who needs prayer and how to pray. Then to make sure that I'm taught well about prayer, he brings about answers that shock me for the speed sometimes. Nothing like being in the school of God's during this time. I have Never during the day ever experienced such a closeness with God as I do during my daily appointment with Him at 4 A.M.There is so much more that could be shared on this subject, yet to share it, I feel would bring envy instead of fire in other's hearts. And that would not be right nor desired. Try to stop wishing and adjust you life now with no excuses and meet God up for your daily scheduled appointment and watch what happens!! Susanne Wesley met up with God at 1 P.M. till 2 P.M. and she had 11 kids to take care of at home in the 1700's. Others have met up with God at midnight!God delights in the prayers of the upright in heart.PJ
Just wondering but what time do you go to bed? I remember Ravenhill telling about that man that didnt even sleep for like 20 yrs. He shut him self up with God about 10pm and didnt come out untill morning. Could you imagine?
HelloI try to get to bed no later than 9 P.M. For I need my 7 hours of sleep for work. It's a requirement and God says we need to do our best at the work he gives us. But I also pray when I lay down for God to grant me the Sweet Rest he promises in the Bible (and of course I fullfill the requirements!). And no matter what time I get up...whether it is 1:30 A.M., 2:30 A.M., 3:15 A.M. or 4 A.M. ....God always has his ear bent to russel and snuggle me close while I pray and also when we talk together. But I must always remember that when I get through praying...not to be rude and just get up like what he has to say to me is not important....I had my turn to talk to him....so I take time to allow him time to talk to me if he desires....and if it turns into a discussion....he always ends it with enough time for me to get ready for work peacefully.Sometimes I could swear it has been hours....and I might be surprised that it's only been 30 minutes....other times I think it has only been a few minutes and it turns out to be hours. What a glory it is to make God Number ONE and to keep my appointment with him! It takes a lot to rearrange your entire life and to seem like a fool when you tell people you have an appointment at 4 A.M. and must retire early. They say, "Four o'clock in the Morning!?? With whom?" And it opens the door to witness to them...it's with God.Draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you!!!!!PRAISE GOD!!!If only people would meet God in the morning every morning and would make Him #1....then they would see the glories of the Heavens open up to them! Well, Good Night my Brother. I have an appointment at 4 A.M. to keep.PJ
Just to share with those that read this and need encouragement to pray with God regularly.This morning as I finished praying, the Holy Spirit spoke with me and told me, "I love you greatly." And then we communed for just a short time. When our time together was done and he told me to get about the business of finishing the book he has me writing, I got up and had such a peace in my heart. During the day I am instructed to take moments throughout the day and close my eyes and commune with God. What a wonder time it is to spend with God!!! He loves me no matter what and does not push in my face when I screw up (of course I have taken care of the matter as soon as I know of it). You know, I used to watch TV and sit like a Zombie in front of it. You know I was relaxing as people call it. Turning everything off and doing nothing. Rarely did I laugh though the laugh machine could be heard all the time on the TV. Rarely did I cry or get emotional. And the time would slip by and it would be time to go to bed. And then I would repeat it everyday with rare exception.Now, I do not have time for TV. I'm in bed by 9 P.M. and by the sounds of it, I have not missed anything. Oh they talk about it at work in the morning. Sometimes I look at their faces while they talk about it...nothing changed. What an unhappy lot of people. I don't miss TV.My walk with God is like Spring. A lot of growth, some rain, some sunshine and some Lighting to give the growth needed. I feel like I'm laying in the grass by a steady stream this morning. Looking forward to God showing me Hell. Looking forward to going up into Heaven and talking with Enoch. The Mysteries of Christ revealed. How many people will the Lord bring home to heaven by using me to bring in the Harvest? It is not I but the Lord and I cannot take any pride in it.I know of some that are in Heaven that God used me to bring Home. There are some in countries that make it down hard to be a Christian that I was surprised to see the Lord use me to plant a seed, water it and then harvest them to completion. And they were the most devout Muslims. Now they are the most devout Christian. It's amazing to see Love at work. It's even more amazing to see God at work.Why would God choose a sinner like me? There a few sins I have not committed. Most of what my mind could conceive...I did....and great were my sins. And thank God that there were Mothers out there that kept praying for me during and after my Mother went to Heaven. He who is forgiven much, loves much!Today, I get to witness to some who knew me before Christ came into my heart. They have not seen me since the change!! And God has assured me they will see the change during the meeting and there will be time to witness!!! Praise God!He loves you so much!PJ
crsschk wrote:Hey PJ,Blessings to you brother. As to Mr. Cho, I too am with you in not having the time to delve into it all. There is enough to raise some red flags and that is all that was intended to be pointed out. Certainly you have enough discernment in this area. Enough said.Kind of not really on the point, but both Ravenhill and Wilkerson had positive things to say about Dr Cho. Personally, I don't have an issue with him so much as the "legend of Cho", which has spawned all the "Yoido want-to-be"s, that think the answer to all their problems is "church growth" through cells, but then neglect the prayer aspect. Or they think that if they emulate prayre mountain, or introduce tabernacle prayer then evetything will be okay. It's all that "pragmatic stamp of apporval" thing that occurs in most charismatic churches in the world, where the pastors of big churches are "poster boys" and "gurus" with all the answers. Anyway, that's what I think anyway.
if you could all pray for me....had to come home from work....feeling rather sick.ThanksPJ
Thank you for your prayers. My sickness was short lived! The temptations have produced now living nightmares to try and steal my peace...yet my peace is in God where I stay. My sister's visit has turned into one of healing and determination.I asked the Lord to let me leave my world and sell it all to give to the poor or/and the missionaries. All in my time was his answer. It looks as though the Lord is going to answer in a mighty way. My heart is to follow him and spend my entire time in his service. Not servicing myself in "The American Way" of money, things, distractions. The Lord led me through a retired Minister who did not know me into my line of work...and I knew better to follow and obey. It has been a real blessing in many ways. In God's time, I will be studying for the Ministry....but above all....there will be more time daily spent with God! NOTHING comes before God, and NOTHING will hinder me from drawing closer to God throughout the day. I prayed that God will close up the debts my sinful live gave....and provide the money for my schooling and everything...to have the God of George Mueller. He has given me a new drive/direction for my calling at my job....and this drive will produce the money needed to answer this prayer in a short time frame. How the Lord answers prayers and the variety of answerings!!!Prayer for Revival is getting more intense and I look forward to the day of having others join in daily to pray for Revival and salvation of the lost!PJ
Good Morning my Brothers & Sisters in ChristThis has been a wonderful last 24 hours. The book, "Why Revival Tarries" has come in while reading another book from J. Edwin Orr. Reading both books at the same time....during this morning's prayer time at 4 A.M., I enjoyed so much the presence of the Holy Spirit and his guiding during our conversations this morning! For those of you wise enough in spiritual things/history.....you see what I am beginning to see a glimpse of. This morning I gave my Lord everything....myself, my things, my career, my reputation....nothing meant anything to me when I realized all the lost souls that will be entering Hell today and more tomorrow.....how will we gave an account of our Praylessness and our harboured sins that hinder our Prayers we selfish cry out to God for ourselves only?How guilty am I. My heart hurts and agony swells my eyes....finish thy work Lord....take me to Hell....show me it thoroughly....show me the mean and scary person....the people whom frighten me sometimes....break me and bend me....break my heart Lord for the lost....teach me personally to pray always and with more heart for Revival and for the salvation of the lost. Tarry not Lord...let it be to me as your will desires....forgive me for my lack of Prayer.PJ
Yesterday, I went about my business at work in the morning. Just before the doors opened for business, the least liked coworker came in and he addressed me. "Peter-John, aren't you looking for a large bird cage? Cause if you are there is one down the road on the side waiting to be hauled away in the trash...." I flew to the back and grabbed my coat and yelled out to my Manager that I would be right back....getting directions...I flew.Now you would of laughed if you had seen me driving.....I was saying out loud...."Now don't speed....don't sin by sinning...if it's meant to be an answer to your prayer of having the God of George Mueller in your life it will be there as an answer to your prayer....don't speed...don't let the Devil have a foot hold cause you sin by speeding and breaking the law....calm down...don't speed.....this went on for about 10 minutes as I drove to the place where the bird cage was seen. This is one of the busiest street in the city. And there it was! A perfectly large bird cage with all the toys and equipment in it...more than needed....a little bit bigger than I had hoped to find!!! I knocked on the people's door...though it was placed at the road side and it was obvious they were moving....I wanted to ask permission since I have not taken anything from the roadside in many years....no answer...the lady moving out on the side of the house saw me with the bird cage and waved at me with a smile.It would not fit in the front door of my car. It would not fit in the back seat...I thought....then I pushed the front seat up all the way...back and all....and it won't fit in...then I thought...try the other end first...it barely fit!!!!On the way back, I thanked the Lord and praised him for leading me see first hand that my prayers of having the Lord of George Mueller, Hudson Taylor, J. Edwin Orr .... were answered!!! What a loving God!! I needed this cage in 3 days and had asked the Lord to please provide one instead of me always shopping/buying....that I wanted the God I had read about in George Mueller's life and others ..... and he provided! In 3 days, I shall clean and disinfect the cage and toys...and separate the baby parrots as needed. It might seem like a small thing.....but that is what my heart wanted.....a God that is interested in the Great and the Small things and could be trusted to supply everything when needed! I did not want to trust in horses and chariots (credit cards and bank loans).....I wanted to trusted in God for EVERYTHING!!! And God has a proven track record for the smallest things and the greatest things! Besides....I had fullfilled all the requirements of the prayer before asking...and God was faithful enough to answer when needed (actually this time it was a couple of days ahead!!!)!Needless to say....I shared with everyone about it and told them about my prayer and desire...what a way to witness!!! What an answer!!! God is Good!PJ
Thanks be to God for this site. I have recently found the video/audio on Richard Owen Roberts whom has been praying with a group for over 25 years for Revival. I called this morning and spoke with Richard about driving the 5 hour drive to join with them in prayer at their 6:30 A.M. meeting. Now I just need to make the arrangements and follow God's timing. This could turn out to be an all night prayer time with God while I'm driving!!! Then Prayer with Richard and his group...then praying all the way home! That would be over 11 hours with God with some serious intense praying with Brother Roberts and the people who have been praying for over 25 years.If God let's me go on a Sunday...then I could go to bed Saturday after work for 5-6 hours of sleep...then get up at Midnight and drive to Wheaton...continue in prayer when I get there and go in to their prayer time at 6:30 A.M. Then I could attend Church with Brother Roberts and drive back home after church or so. What a way to serve the Lord!!!Now I am close to Detroit, Michigan....does anyone know of any other person and/or group of people that get together for prayer early mornings for Revival that I can go visit? Say about no more than a 5-6 hour drive. I would greatly appreciate any insight.Finding Mr. Roberts' group is such a joy!PJ
Yes, you heard right...I have stopped being polite to my sister. She has settled in and trying to run my house, my transportation for her and my life. As soon as that head raised, it was time to stop being polite and letting her adjust. I started living like I had before she came here and not stopping one thing.On the way to her work, I pushed in my Sermon tapes copied from here on Revival and my scriptures to listen too. The car was silent as we drove and I enjoyed myself again! When we got home...I went in my office to listen to my sermons and also to work on the book God has me finishing this month on drawing closer to God. She is starting to see how my normal day goes. And she does not like it one bit. Even mentioned that she might be leaving earlier.She had wanted to watch some TV show about the Devil's workers...some new show....I told her that witchcraft is not allowed in my home on that thing and if I ever hear or see that she has disobeyed my desires in my home I would disconnect Cable TV completely....that I only left it on for her stay anyways and it was coming out after she left. She could not believe it....I said do not push me....no one defiles my house when I have a say in it. The program did not air in this house. I am polite and kind....but it's time she see who her brother is....since my siblings have only once in all the years ever made an attempt to come to my house and visit with me. I have always been the one to go see them on rare occasions. It's amazing when it hit me a couple of days ago. This is the only sibling to ever come over and it was only once...Thanksgiving dinner when her grown kids were coming over to eat a feast I had personally cooked....we had everything....even chestnuts roasting!This is the sister that will tell everyone in the family about me and what I do. She is the whisper. And she will never come back after she leaves because that is the way my siblings are. So this is my only chance of witnessing to her here and her taking all the juices in and telling it to all. They will All be amazed about the change that it is real!God is wise!PJ
PJ.Brother, you kill me...And I mean that in the most profoundest wonderful way. It's your heart brother...From the bird cage to ROR to your sister...A couple of thoughts, in order;1) Praise God! For the small and the large and for your faith believing, it's contagious!2) Will be praying that this trip, Lord willing (and that is not lack of... the Lord has His reasons, James 4:13,14) will come to pass. And I for one will be awaiting a detailed report of all that transpires! Had the pleasure of hearing an interview with Richard Owen Roberts that a saint here sent and was touched by the "even-ness' of the man who could speak of the seriousness of the issues of the church in our day with the heart of a servant, it cut right through everything he said. Much wisdom gained by years of walking with the Lord, no doubt about it. This may be quite a profound moment in your life brother, keep us posted as to the progress and I will keep you up in the intercessory end of things.3) Your sister. Might we have her name? Would be helpful. Appreciate and understand your strong stand brother and this may go without saying, but just to bring to remembrance that it is your life that she will be reading the scriptures from. Mercy and compassion along with conviction. I know you know, but....1Th 5:17
My sister's name is Beth. Now when God saves her....everyone will be more shocked than they were will me getting saved!!! I'll probably fall on the ground....tripping over my own feet in amazement and joy! But hey....God saved me and I have only heard about sinner any worst than me....I rank up there with Paul and worse.That's why I love God and sinners so much....for anyone to forgive me so completely and make me a new person.....that could only be a God. And this God I want to meet and get to know. And that is what I am doing ...... I have met God and now I am getting to know him more each day! Rejoice Evermore!Pray without Ceasing!!!I was real young and we thought it cute when I learned these after "Jesus Wept". I thank God that he allowed me to go down the path I took. I thank God that he let me commit all the sins my mind could think of...everything and more.... For I can honestly say....I do not hold Spiritual Pride in my heart....for I am unworthy and definitely below my brothers and sisters in Christ. It's very humbling to see what I was and what I am.....and only a great big God can have accomplish this....by all stats...I should of been dead by now....yet God has protected me even when I was in jail and when I was homeless twice. The pit of sin is so shameful that it bothers me to think I had No self respect to have gone so low...criminally low. If you are reading this and you have skeletons in your closet....repent of these and ask forgiveness....cause a real righteous man/woman of God's might see your skeletons and/or the devil might bring them to light to make you run from God in shame.....take control of the skeletons and give them to God. If he wants you to share them....he will give you the strength to share them and the stomach to be joyful that somehow someone will benefit. You will have peace instead of fear. And take comfort in knowing....they definitely are not worse than any of mine....God is in control of mine and I fear Not the devil exposing them anymore!Like the Word of God that he chose and prepared for us to have in our Bible...Every word was chosen and given to us..... We too are care for by God with such tenderness....he loves us more than you can even image and so desires us to draw closer to him. We are wonderful designed and cared for!!!There is such Freedom in Worshipping God!PJ
Hello P.J. I've been greatly encouraged by reading your postings on this thread. What important business prayer is! I know God is going to use you tremendously if you keep on in prayer as you are.I also love the idea of prayer online. How would it work? Please, if you wouldn't mind, remember me in your prayers. For a while I've been getting up early too and it has been awesome, but this week I didn't - the attacks from the enemy have been heavy lately! And i have not withstood them well...falling in ways i normally wouldn't.boy do we ever need prayer...we are so full of sin - just a few days in the flesh and i fall. God bless you P.J.Your brother in Christ, Stephen
I have stopped all that I was doing and went before God to bend his ear to pray for you. Prayer online.....it looks like my place will be empty here by the beginning of April....so I plan on getting online and setting up a chat room that has audio....this way all who log on and push their microphone option will be able to speak and hear everyone else.....then we will have a Prayer meeting online across the World!!!!Each person will need a microphone at least hooked up to their computer and if we want to be able to see each other....a video thing hooked up. I will post everything probably tomorrow.PJ
PJ: I am suggesting this book to you. "The Complete Works of E.M.Bounds On Prayer",Ravenhill talked about reading Bounds through at 17 on his knees, I did the same. Its only a suggestion, follow the Lord's leading."Keep at the 4Am hour, Christ will be for it, Satan against it, hell will be full if we don't do better."Bounds. Christian Merlino
HelloI have read the book! Thanks for letting me know...I love any great book on prayer and also on revival.PJ
The chat room for prayer was a good idea...but I never know when I will be done with Prayer in the morning. And the yahoo chat room was very difficult to work.PJ
During my final editing of my book .... sweet words still ring a bell in the soul. Here is what hit a note of truth again and again.... What a monster is love of self, which wants to see itself in everything, and which can suffer only with great pain the practice and conduct of pure love, which tends always to God and steals us from ourselves, to bring us, to lose us and spoil us in this divine Everything! May God always chop us at our knees.PJ
While we were in the Prayer Chat room this morning, prayer turned towards God's glory. There are many Wolves in Sheep's clothing gathering up all the money they can and living it up. But think on this......At work, we have a man and a woman, both worked at another place together, the one was hired and recommended the other be invited to come work with us. They hired them both. Come to find out, it's a contest to see which one of the two can be the laziest person on the planet. Now that used to really grind me...I cannot stand lazy people. But as the Holy Spirit pointed out...they make you look good no matter what you are doing or not doing.So you see....will all the darkness of the Wolves...it makes our light of Glory shine even that much brighter! We believe in the power of prayer....let's pray for these Wolves that their feet get chopped to the knees and that they get skinned. Maybe if all goes well ..... at least maybe they might meet their Maker...whether here on earth or in heaven on judgment day.I'll pray for you if you want. Will you please pray for me?PJ
Please place me on your daily prayer list. Please pray that God will be my God like the God of George Mueller and supply the needs daily needed. I know this is our God for he has proved himself time and again. Every hindrance that I can find in my life I address as soon as I know it or as fast as possible. Nothing is in the way that I know of. My prayers are heard and answered. My request for prayer is that God will supply the amount of money to bring me out of debt to the penny and do so that I may know it is Him supplying for this purpose and not myself earning it being self-sufficient like I have been. And then to help sell my house so that I need to move the day I need to leave for the Seminary of his choosing. And that God will supply the funds for completion of schooling. I will go anywhere the Lord leads me....but taking no salary....leaning on his arm to provide for me everyday....a burning light to his Glory. Everything will I give up to serve Him. The desire for a son which has been inside of me for many years....I will give up....always thought that if God delivered me from being gay, I would find a Godly wife and have a son (and God did deliver me entirely from being Gay and knowing that I am giving up my heart's desire for a son brings tears to my eyes everytime I think of it...but God gave up his son for you and me...now I know somewhat of what God must of felt to do this)....but willingly will I give all this up to serve my Lord. All my pets I am finding homes for....this way I can go as the Spirit leads. Like Corrie ten Boom said, be responsible for the things God has given you but hold on to them with loose fingers...cause it hurts to have God pry them from you one finger at a time. There is a feeling inside that God is definitely working in me to move me out in the field to harvest....that is why I am asking God's people to pray for me. Cause when God's people pray.....!!!!! Will you add me to your prayer list to pray for me everyday possible until either of us goes home first? Do you know other Godly men/women that pray? Can you ask them to add me to their prayer list? Revival and Salvation of lost souls have weighed heavy on my heart just a couple of months after getting saved and it's stronger now than it has ever been.Can you please let me know somehow that you are adding me to your list....if you do not get around to letting me know...just please pray?Thank you brothers and sistersPeter-John Parisis
During my prayer time this morning at 4 A.M. I prayed that God would give me Wisdom and Knowledge of the scriptures during my devotional time IAW James 1. While reading Psalms 68 and Proverbs 9, I seen the chapter in a whole new light. As though I have never read it and as though it was about to take place. Simply amazing time. Fresh and simpleMy thoughts this morning is how glorious God is!!! We Gentiles will be just like the Jews...we too will get it wrong....we will be strong in our believes....but we will be blinded also....when Jesus returns.....we too will go out to battle against him with every tribe and nation. This must be....us being wrong too....for NO pride or ego will be allowed into Heaven....those with it will be reserved the chambers of hell with the author of it...the Devil. So for the prideful Christian who likes to tear down others and look for human patting on the back (and I see a lot of it hear on posts as well as hear it among "Christians").....continue in your way and you will be surprised to see you won't make it into heaven. Repentance is where you will need to be and ask God for forgiveness of Dead Works...and then go and ask forgiveness of those you have talked badly about like you are told to do. It's very humbling....I remember when I had to do it....it helps cure your tongue sins.Taking my car into a new garage tomorrow....by the looks of it....I am hoping this man is a Christian Brother....desiring to make sure the car will get me to Richard Owen Roberts' place of prayer soon. My sister told me that she is needed back home...her daughter lost one of her twins that she is pregnant with and wants her Mom to come stay with her through the rest of the time. So she is moving back on the 18th.If you want a good description of Revival and it's breakdown from an expert....Richard Owen Roberts' download called, "Rival Nature".PJ
Ok...been a lot of stuff happening that is not adding up and it all seems to fit somehow.Three weeks ago, a gay man I used to date, who dumped me after 2 months of dating....called me (and asked me how I was doing...etc...and if I would consider dating him again) and I told him about Jesus and me being delivered from being Gay. He went off the deep end after that phone call and left me seriously disturbed messages and many of them....then nothing....then out of the blue he leaves his house at 7:30 A.M. on Saturday and drives 2 hours to my place of work to try and talk me into dating him again. When I would not meet up with him privately (cause I was working...get a clue)...he stormed out of our parking lot by putting on a public anger display and peeling his truck tires all the way out in front of all my coworkers...and when he had showed up...we were having an old conversation and I was telling everyone at work that was discussing it that I am still not gay anymore and walking with God....and I was telling them that I'm still not gay anymore. So I thought...something is about to happen cause the Devil has placed the best looking man I ever dated to try and tempt me....hmmmmThen...I find out last night that my sister is moving out tomorrow. Long story but basically her daughter is having a baby and having trouble with the whole thing...boyfriend walked on....drama, drama, drama....and so she going home to help take care of her daughter and grandson. So I had a chance to witness to her about my life, her life, our parents life and the differences of being saved and not being saved. She was all teary eyed but stayed with the Devil for now.A lot of stuff is happening and all I know is I am sitting pondering it all. Looks like Monday if all goes well, God wills it and I live long enough....I should have one of my cars to the shop to get worked on. Both need some work and I'm going to get the Garage to tell me which one I should take to Wheaton, IL., to join in with Richard Owen Roberts and his prayer group...praying for Revival for 25 plus years now.Waiting on the Lord to let me know when and how to get in the position to start Seminary. Figured I should do it through a Seminary instead of the training way I did before. This morning I thought to myself...here you are walking somewhat like John Wesley did .... even worked on some tranlation of Madame Guyon's writings from French into English, just John Wesley did.....seeing a lot of similar things....will be an interesting life I am sure!So .... this is one of those times that I just sit here and think...."What's Going On..."What do you think? Anyone wise have an idea or word from the Lord?PJ
I just received an email from Mrs. Roberts and I expressed my desires for some books from Richard Roberts plus pamplets and about coming there way soon.http://www.intl-awaken.com/introduction.htmThe link above is to the ministry for Revival that Brother Richard Owen Roberts is still involved in. I love his downloads on this site here!!PJ
This morning .... the Lord awoke me and we spent time in prayer till shortly after 4!!! I love these real early mornings...what a great time we had!!! You will never know the joy of meeting up with the Lord in the early morning or whenever until you make God number 1 and make the time daily!!!!What a joy....words could not find enough room to explain!!!PJ
I wonder. If we prayed, gave, and fasted like Jesus said to ..... would anybody beside the one doing the praying, fasting, giving, seeking..etc. even know it?Just pondering the Words of Jesus.
You have some good questions. Let me ask you a question....does anyone know you to be a Man of Prayer? If they do...wonder how they know it. If they don't ....I wonder why you don't have the reputation of being one.For the great men and women of the bible are known by all to be great in the area of prayer. I wonder how they became known for it. Do you think they taught it and the wonderful times they have in it?
5“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. I guess the only way I or anyone else could have a "reputation as a Man of Prayer" is if someone was hiding in the closet to see what I was doing with my Father in secret. That is...if I were following Jesus' Words and the closet-hider was not.Wanting to be known as a great Man of Prayer or a great Preacher or Minister is no less prideful than wanting to be known as a great Rock Star or Movie Star. Wanting to BE one is wonderful. Wanting to be KNOWN as one is not. :-)
You know Steven.....I could say a lot....but why? What good would it do? So I will say....Love you too! May God richly bless you for all the good your posts do for others. May you find peace in your heart through God. May you continue to encourage others with the fruits of the Holy Spirit coming forth. And may I also do the same.Glory be to God....I must be doing something right!!! More will come against you as you do the will of your Father...just like they did to Jesus and we ain't no better!! May God shine his love and help you to continue to walk blameless in his eyes. And may you continue to bless others with your posts!PJ
This morning my sister is leaving. She told me that she is needed to take care of her daughter and grandson. So I told her that she can leave everything for as long as she desires if need be. We have had some very good times clearing the air of things in the past. Also, it's been kind of nice witnessing to her.It's funny....prayer time started early today! I awoke and could not get back to sleep....so you know the old saying....the Devil would rather put you to sleep than let you pray! So I started to pray and fell asleep. Then I got up at 4 A.M. to pray some more!I am finding it better to take the time to say a real quick prayer for things as they come up through the day. That way all things get addressed to God. I have even taken to keeping my mouth shut when people bother me and taking it to God....since he is the one that shaping me. But I'm not perfect and that is obvious!!! Even on here I have to edit posts when it was better to have been quiet at first.Love your enemies and pray for them the use you in the worse way. It's funny how God will remind me to do this when someone is really getting under my skin....he kindly reminds me that I am praying for the salvation of that person....then I have to stop and think....oh yea...better claims Romans 5:5 and love them more through the Holy Spirit.One thing I know from work....it takes a rough diamond to girdle another diamond into taking shape. It's really nice when it's another real Christian brother and/or sister who is lovingly chiding me and with the fruits of the Holy Spirit coming through ..... reproves me in gentleness and meekness. And I for one need to remember to do the same. It's not how you start out...it's how you finish....as Richard Owen Roberts says.Thanks for all the encouraging emails! You-all have been very supportive during this delay in getting the house empty to start up Morning daily prayer time meeting to pray for Revival and the salvation of lost souls. And you are right...all in God's timing....and it is the Holy Spirit who is supposive to be the teacher of us if we let him! Sister....you are to be cheerished for such kindness!!!!PJAnd here is the scriptures that I am looking forward to being Known to be part of my life..... Galatians 5:22-27 (Amplified Bible)But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness, Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [[a]that can bring a charge]. And those who belong to Christ Jesus (the Messiah) have crucified the flesh (the godless human nature) with its passions and appetites and desires. If we live by the [Holy] Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. [If by the Holy Spirit [b]we have our life in God, let us go forward [c]walking in line, our conduct controlled by the Spirit.] Let us not become vainglorious and self-conceited, competitive and challenging and provoking and irritating to one another, envying and being jealous of one another.
prayer4am wrote:I am finding it better to take the time to say a real quick prayer for things as they come up through the day. That way all things get addressed to God. I think that there is a book written by someone with the name of Frank Laubach where he touches on a very simaler line of prayer. It really helps keep your mind and heart be attentive to prayer and being a priest. I found that it was quite an effort. We are talking to the God of the universe about the eternal and sometimes temporal destinys of folk and the weight of the burden that confronted me really took allot out of me. Thanks for reminding of it again, it truely is the greatest force in the world.Keep going,
It seems that I did a post in another forum that cause quite a bit of stir that was never meant to be. So as to make sure everyone understands that I am NOT perfect nor claiming to be.....I wanted to make sure everyone knows what happened....so I copied and pasted the last post on the other forum. My fullest intent also was to encourage others to Pray and Pray for Revival and the salvation of lost souls. I never thought I would be in an AOL chat room and get stomped on, bit, and lashed at for my personal beliefs nor encouraging others to pray and the benefits that come from it. But I sure did get an ear full. And I am not fully blameless....but when I realized that sin was at the door of mine and/or my family members here...I tried to put an end to it and make a positive thought to stop all the hatred that was coming through. To which I found out that was wrong too....So....I think it's time to going back to the downloads only and let the others do some wound licking and hopefully .... like myself...learn to display the fruits of the Holy Spirit more towards each other and ourselves. So without further words....here is the other posts:Wow....I NEVER intented this post to get as heavy as it did.....nor have anyone biting others....so I decided to end the whole thing and try and lighten everyone up by making US realize that we are family. It was supposive to show us areas that we are sometimes missing the boat on in our beliefs...not your beliefs nor my beliefs....just in our heart's.....and help in a nice way to help us take an account of walking better with God and allowing him to bless us because of it.I Never thought it would go to a "Tithing" heated debate. If tithing is not your cup of tea...try some delicious cake.....but leave the mud pie for the kids to play with and enjoy. And originally....also the topic was also about the lack of Prayer and missing out on the blessings there....yet that got overlooked completely somehow. So to end the chances of sinning and biting one another over personal beliefs and thoughts....I decided to pull it all off and stop the whole thing. It needed to be done and done immediately....making sure that no more sinning and biting got another chance to lash out. Leaving it all up would of gave the Devil a foot hold that was originally NEVER meant to be.I think that the old scripture...when you go to present your gift at the altar and remember that "Someone has aught against you"....not that you did anything wrong...but there is hard feelings ....going to them to make a clear path of understanding and family-hood is a must before coming back to offer your gift. Family is more important than gifts and definitely more important than differences of beliefs and thoughts.I do not know the "rules" of this sight....I just know common sense....if what you are doing is causing a Brother or Sister to sin...and you can stop it or calm the waters...then you should do so and do it immediately. Your intentions might never have been to start something...but have you ever been baking a cake and your brother comes in and wants some or to lick the frosting bowl? You forget the arguments that you had on the way to school or about how to feed the dog. Stop the train of thoughts and the arguing and focus on something good. That was my intent and I'm finding my whole benefit of this sight is fastly sliding down hill. I do not need to get bit by someone claiming to be my brother or sister...I have enough problems trying not to sin each day....and walking among the definite Devil's people.So....with that....I'll stick to my one post if that and use the downloads. This post and the lashing really makes me wonder how much we really do love our family members. But if you are anywhere near Detroit....I make a mean Cake with great frosting!!!! Let me know and you can come over and stay over if you desire. But no mud pies are coming in the door!!! They stay in the play ground across the street!!! I'm sorry to have cause all this trouble....it was Never meant to be. All I can say is ... WOW.Sorry Disgusted and everyone else....I need to back off and out except the downloads for now if not permantly. Way too much heat and lashing in here.PJP.S. Pray for us all!
Well Prayer, I pray that you will receive the true rewards for your praying and your ministry as the Word deems fitting. I pray that your ministry to the Sheep of God will be much more sincere than the blessing that you've given me here. Brother, I pray that you will always be truthful with yourself and all others in the Body to whom you are providing service. And may the Lord Yeshua guide you into all the Truth in His Spirit. See you on that Day! God bless.
Hello Greg and Mike Just wanted to let you know that after sleeping and praying on what took place on SermonIndex.net yesterday.... I just wanted to let you know that I am sorry for jumping all over you. Please forgive me. You just hit me right after I was through posting after your Moderator had went off on me publicly without the proper manners of questioning me privately first (it hurt and I found it a little childish and rude). A Suggestion if I may......When someone first joins....why not have an automatic email and welcome screen to them explaining the rules of posting and editing to them? This way they do not make a simple mistake and loose face publicly on the forum from you and/or your moderators. You might think that it's posted someone on that website....but don't you think it would cause a lot less trouble to just make is simple for them? And won't it be more loving to first go privately to your brother and/or sister and bring a matter to them first before taking it to the church publicly and shame them? Just a thought.....cause it sure was not good style to jump publicly on me by either of you two without a personal questioning in private about it. It was a classic bad management style which all management books will show you. I had absolutely NO idea that what I was doing (with the best intentions at heart which I explained in 2 of my posts yesterday and thought it might of been wise for you to read the most recently posted ones before jumping on me too) was something so wrong in the eyes of everyone involved on the site. Never knew it until it was publicly plastered all over. But you know what is funny......I was really losing a lot of precious time trying to help others on the sight and taking away time from working on my book. And the Holy Spirit was pointing that out the morning of all the problems. So I guess it really was God's doing to get me off of it. And besides.....hardly can one find the fruits of the Holy Spirit on there in correcting or trying to show differences of beliefs....more like a cat fight ready to jump in. At least that is how the last posts before the blow up felt. And I learned a very valuable lesson.....watch out about the love of money and so called "Christians".....they will stomp you down to justify their keeping of their precious money and will ignore anything on Prayer when you offer the two topics together. And don't ever expect the fruits of the Holy Spirit from this gang on here when discussing money and giving to God to show up. Maybe the wise here have experienced it and just clicked it away knowing that the newbie was about to get his initiation. Now with all that said......I DO LOVE THE SIGHT FOR THE DOWNLOADS AND FIND THEM EXTREMELY WORTHWHILE. So my hat is off to you on that. So I shall look to the good and stay completely away from the bad. So good luck with your schooling......and hope my suggestions will save you and others any more problems in the future. And again .... sorry for causing so much problems out of ignorance.PJP.S. StevenL -- may God bless you too and help us both to be blameless in his eyes each day until we both arrive in Heaven.
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