Hello,
for years i life in sin. But i want back to Jesus. I know him but iam far away from him. I think i dont love him. But i want back.
Do you know a sermon about Backsliders?
Hello,
for years i life in sin. But i want back to Jesus. I know him but iam far away from him. I think i dont love him. But i want back.
Do you know a sermon about Backsliders?
Sometimes i think i cant get back because of some Scriptures. I dont see the light there is only darkness around me...
RE: danieljesus9 wrote/ Sometimes i think i cant get back because of some Scriptures. I dont see the light there is only darkness around me.../
You are seeing some light to be able to come to that conclusion.
What do you believe is holding you back??
The Sin in my life. I know a time when i feel pain over my sins. But now i know that iam wrong but there is no pain. This pain over my sins was a work from the holy spirit and i think hes gone. What can i do when hes gone?
Re: danieljesus9 wrote
/The Sin in my life. I know a time when i feel pain over my sins. But now i know that iam wrong but there is no pain. This pain over my sins was a work from the holy spirit and i think hes gone. What can i do when hes gone?/
Sounds like you need a break through.
What is it worth to you, to be restored??
You can be restored, I am sure of it, But you have to earnestly desire to be
Yes I think so sometimes. But I think it would be very hard. I must give everything. Really everything. And this will be a combat in which I fall and get up again. But it's so hard when I do not feel that Jesus is with me. In the morning wake up.
Thank you brother. I will try again to give Jesus everything and will fight with all my strength for that. He is my only hope. Please pray for me .. My name is Daniel and I'm from Germany.
Some fabulous sermons for you - by Earnest O'Neil:
A Clean Heart
A Heart Cleansed by Faith
A New Start
found here:
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=437
RE: danieljesus9
/Yes I think so sometimes. But I think it would be very hard. I must give everything. Really everything. And this will be a combat in which I fall and get up again. But it's so hard when I do not feel that Jesus is with me. In the morning wake up/
Daniel, I have been exactly where you are. Look to the Cross invision The Cross lay your heart at rest in the Finished work of God if need be Fast untill you get a complete break through.
RE: Daniel wrote /He is my only hope. Please pray for me .. My name is Daniel and I'm from Germany./
I will pray for you He is your only hope. Remember he saves sinners not righteous do not worry about cleaning yourself up first, He will do that, Throw your sins to the Cross. And Believe in His Love
When you find rest, walk in a direction that maintains that rest that peace, if you fall repent and return to that peace, Move where that peace moves you.
Everybody please pray for Daniel
Luke 15
4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
8 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it?
9 And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost.
10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.
26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.
27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.
28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.
29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.
I will try again to give Jesus everything and will fight with all my strength for that. He is my only hope. Please pray for me .. My name is Daniel and I'm from Germany.
I believe the problem is here, "fight with ALL MY STRENGTH". This was the problem with me 2 years back and with many faithful believers who come to Jesus Christ. We get into the life of Romans 7 very easily were we embrace law and start fighting temptations by our own strength. But to get into life as described in Romans 8 we need to be broken, and believe that my strength is over. I need God's grace to live for him. By my strength I cannot do it anymore.
The very fist miracle that Jesus did was to convert water to wine, he did not do this miracle until the man made wine ran out. Jesus in our life is waiting for this man made wine (Human strength) to run out. Accept your weakness and ask for grace. His grace can make you Christlike, if we can live like Christ by our own strength then why did God give us Holy Spirit? Seek you will get and seek with right motive, to Glorify him.
Amen.
Daniel
What was it that caused you to fall away?
Brenda
"Are You Backsliding?" (parts 1 and 2)- Michael L. Brown.
Sounds like you know you are-- but the sermon talks about remedies as well.
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=453
Thank you for your prayers and posts. Everybody tells me that I should not fight in my power. But what does that mean exactly? For example, I smoke, and I think the Holy Spirit tells me, "If you smoke and do not want to stop then you are living in sin" Am I to wait until God does a miracle and I no longer smoke?
I think there is a difference between living in sin and sinning. And I have to decide whether I want to live in sin or not. I believe God will not help me if I'm living in sin. When I was born again I knew that I'm saved and the Holy Spirit showed me what sin is and what is not. And he also showed me that I should not live in sin.
I will sin my life. But I have to decide not to live in sin.
I'm very confused. I do not understand everything. What should I do? I think Got me saying: "stop living in sin, and trust me, turn around"
Is that correct?
@Kraftfrau (are you german?)
The fear of man! I was afraid of people and have again started to take drugs and ran away from jesus.
I guess most of the sincere believers have gone through this. I do not know of everyone, but know of one, that is myself. I was struggling with a lack of consistency which is generally termed as backsliding but in a specific expression, SIN. Many years since I came to faith, I didnt experience a victorious christian life. Some years back, defeated and dejected and totally lost in my spiritual war, I told Jesus, that I do not have what it takes to be a spiritual man.
brother, that was the turning point in my spiritual life. God lifted me off the pit I had stooped down to. Now many of those areas are history. I am experiencing the power of god, which came from my inadequacy when I admitted like a child to its father that I couldnt make it.
He is a holy god but at the same time, He is a loving father. Trust in Him. Accept your inadequacy. Admit, you cannot make it on your own. I stopped smoking when I came to faith. But that was not the biggest sin in my life. there were many areas which were even more serious. But when my lord pulled me up with His power, I do not even consider them anymore.
Later, when I was meditating Luke, I saw how many foolish things Peter did before he 'realized' he was not good and went fishing again. It was then our Lord ordained him!! how amazing are His ways. We need to empty our inferior self will to let god pour His love and His Spirit.
I am sure, you will come out victorious in your struggle as you admitted you have back-sliden. Now just submit yourself in the mighty hands of the Lord and wait for His move.
Only make sure, you submit - COMPLETELY.
God bless you dear brother.
Daniel, no but I lived in Berlin.
Looking deeply into our hearts, we can find the thoughts that caused division in our relationship with our Lord. Why did you not trust Him to protect you and only allow what is to your good? Mostly the reason why bad things happen is because we are not walking right. If we compromise with sin then we step outside of that protection, and if we are walking right then whatever happens to us does not scar us in our minds because we are trusting Him and know that whatever befalls us is for a purpose so we praise Him in everything, even in the most terrible circumstances we are happy to suffer for Christ. So the first step is to acknowledge our own responsibility in what happens to us while we are playing games with sin.
go back to the foot of the cross my friend back out side the gate
drink the gosple into your soul once more
identafie your self with the death of christ see him in your mind suffer for you sins
and no that you are dieng with him or that cross or that you have died in present tents reality ,and if you have died ,then you have also in realty died to sin
brother for the sake of your soul and and for the primary sake of jesus death ,may i remind you of what he did ,by posting a message of his death,,,just medatate and think deeply about the death and ponder the power of the resarection
blesings brother gary
come reckon your selfs dead unto sin
come to a quite place ,and look ,,see the lord
he is hanging on the cross for us
see the blood
the pain
watch the scracrfice of the holy lamb
see how he offers him self to god for us
listen, hear the earth quake
and cry of the lamb
listen to the cords of sin break ,wile he screams
behold ,behold ,what he speaks
my god my god my whydid you have to for sake me
it is finished
he has broken the head of the snake
the propishiation ,the offering is compleat
the son has set you free
and you are free indeed
he has broken the power of sin over his people
truly this was the son of god
who was brusied for our iniquity
the chastisment of or peace was upon him
he bore our sins,listen to his pain
and by thsese strips we are heald
the cords of sin are gone
the leash of iniquity ,has been releasd
he has set you free from the leash of slavery
sin has not dominion over us
he condemed sin in the fleash
you are free ,he set you free
recken your selfs dead unto sin
sins dominion,was nailed to the cross
he who new no sin became sin
cursed is he who hung on the tree
the curse is left you ,,now you leave the curse on that tree
leave your old master ,on that cross
resiste the devil ,and he will flee from you
take the grain of mustard seed on thy lips
let it sprout and grow and fruit
confess the truth to one another
he set you free
indeed you are free
the cross has set you free
what was naid to the alter
beacme your freedom
rejoyce now in your liberty
wher sin abounded
grace abounded more
he set you free
step out from the old traps
dont let the traps in tangle you,you are allready free
you are a new creatour now
walk by faith
for i know my sheep
and they follow me
undure the narrow path ,that i made for you
and you are saved
no one is able to pluck you out of my hand
you have crusafied the flesh ,and it passions
listen to the screams of the flesh
there death has come
as a flower of the field passes away ,when i make the sun rise ,,the flower has been cut from you ,walk away now
dont hold onto ,a cut rose and look at its dieing atraction
walk now ,to the tomb ,behold ,and see im not there
iam vindacated ,so are you you ,come to me ,hold me
see that it is me ,but hold thy brothers by the hand ,and bring him to me ,,pull him away
from the roses ,,leave him not on the out skirts of the camp ,,lead him through the gate to my feet where i hung for you ,,forget your different doctrines ,like my two twin sons ,that i raised up for my sake and for your sake ,and remember my firsts furneral
and the spirit that was there that i gave for the bond of peace
and hold each ones hand with a brothererly kiss for a seconed
and look to me ,,remembering your self
and i shal lift you in my sancfication ,which i sangatfied you with,, touch not my libertys with all you heart
but touch my hands and feet ,and my side ,with all your stare ,,seperate your self for a season
and then you will know that i have seperated you for ever
seperated your self ,the season is come
and the season itself wil seperate you
it is the season for rain ,.
come and be washed in this new rain of old
blow the trumpet ,there is a wet season ,and a flood
this flood will only go down a narrow tribuatary ,this season
but the richness in the water ,will feed the trees ,and the trees will indeed bare fruit ,and the fruit will be stored in my barns ,and will feed the thoses thirsty ,in the dry season wich is near ,and thay shal ask and it will be givern ,,this will produce a different harvest ,from the last four ,,it will be my best fruit in the last miniute of my last hour of my last days ,
and behold this will prepare my way and make my paths strait ,,my propherts are coming,for i my self have raised
them before the world was ,and i will led them as i led you and you will surly know who are olive trees in the season to come ,,,,
now i call you ,all,, to repent ,and i do no your works , even my propherts ,and my pastors
all of you at this time shall repent
and hear what your evalasting father is saying to you
listen to me ,as you are my children ,,and i have some things more for all of you
some shall do the first works
and other shal you do the works that you hav never done yet
and even my weak waywould son whom i speak through this miniute,,he must dig verry deep and repent and do works he has never done and bare fruit of deep repentance ,and prove his love to me
my grace is sufishent
and i will suply according to need
this is what the lord is saying to you
my word is in you
and in your mouth
listen to what the spirit is saying to you tonight
Just curious, Daniel,
Have you had a chance to listen to any of the sermon audios I posted on page one - about having a clean heart. If so, how well did Rev. O'neil address your particular situation, and how do his words impact you at this point?
Diane
Thank you for your prayers and posts. Everybody tells me that I should not fight in my power. But what does that mean exactly? For example, I smoke, and I think the Holy Spirit tells me, "If you smoke and do not want to stop then you are living in sin" Am I to wait until God does a miracle and I no longer smoke?
Christian life is not a theoretical life, where you just read and believe that it should be true. It is a practical life and you can experience what you read. Since I was one of those who told you earlier that you need to depend on God to fight, I will take this responsibility to answer the above quoted question.
When we are born again we receive the Holy Spirit, it is practical, I received and you too received him and that is why you proclaimed that Jesus Christ is Lord. The main purpose of Holy Spirit is to bring conviction of Sin (John 16). And you have experienced it saying I got conviction to Leave smoking. Now you have to repent from Smoking when you received this conviction, which means to quit smoking and turn to God. Repentance is 180 degree turn. This is a step that you take. But this repentance does not mean that you will not be tempted, may be within next 5 mins (assuming you are a chain smoker- worst case scenario) you will be tempted again to smoke.
Now you have 2 choices, either you can fight this temptation by your own strength and lose the battle OR seek God for help. Now if you turn to his direction for Strength, he will give it to you for sure, it is his promise based on 1 Corinthians 10-13:-
No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
God has already provided a way out for you in every temptations that you face, it is like the exit signs that you see in a building, but you will see it only when you look above. If you look into your self to find a way to exit you will not see it.
If the building that you are visiting gets caught in fire, will you relay on your own ability to find the exit? No right, you will look up to see the exit signs. Sin is much greater than fire because it can lead your soul to permanent destruction in Hell.
Daniel, I have been there before. Brother let me tell you a few things that will probably go against the grain here, that personally helped me. Daniel there is no such thing as you "backsliding", that even sounds terrible, terrible enough for some it can hold some under condemnation. What you have done is fell out of fellowship with Christ. Daniel hundreds of sermons, and 5 books later, I was still at the same place,what I did was, keep my distance from "man" and gave it all to God. Night and Day 24/7 I keep in Prayer, I literally walked and talked to God, I went to sleep and woke up Praying, 100% of my focus was on him, man means well, but man can't fix you, only God can do that. I know we all are sincere in sharing what we think might help you, but books and sermons can be confusing when we are out of fellowship with God, but trust me God is spot on, never any confusion. Daniel, God wants you to put him first and foremost, books can't heal and sermons can't heal, but God can, Brother go to the "healer" first, he wants you to do this, after all who knows more about Daniel than God? no one. Brother, again I am only telling you what I had to personally do, that has brought me closer than I have ever been to the Lord in my life, I do intake some of mans thoughts, but I let God do the filtering.
God Bless you Brother in Jesus name, he wants you back in fellowship with him, he loves you more than any human mind could ever imagine, he is right in front of you with his arms wide open. Daniel no one has gone anywhere, he said he would never leave you or forsake you, Daniel you can't leave God, because everywhere you go he is still there, and he will always be. Daniel, he is there, he is waiting now, go to him, make him your life.
God Bless
Brother Bill
Daniel, the Holy Spirit is nearer to you than you think. He produced in you the will to create this thread. It is His influence which drives your heart - though encompassed with strongholds - to seek God for liberation.
God allows His children to stray brother to teach them the value of the Holy Spirit's voice. He'll let you drift further and further away in the tides of sin. You'll eventually come to your senses and discover you're in over your head and can't swim back to shore. What to do when you reach this point?
The answer is absolutely nothing. You can't do anything; if you try to come back to God, the stronghold arises and blocks your passage. The stronghold is like a huge octopus beneath the surface of the ocean. It grabs the legs of your spirit-man when it tries to swim back to God. Having correct theology won't stop the octopus; neither will listening to sermons or reading books. Reciting scripture only temporarily stirs water and makes a big commotion, but also is not able to break the stronghold.
You need to understand that you are trapped in your mind. Your mind was the entry point through which the powers of darkness were able to lead you off shore. Once you trifle with sin, you're trapped. At once you start drifting, and the powers and principalities have a legal right to torment you. You cannot liberate yourself from them. It is a spiritual problem that cannot be fought through the flesh or psychology. God alone must deliver.
The fact that you are troubled over your backsliding and have begun to resist the tides is a sign that the Holy Spirit is brooding over the waters. What do you do now that the brooding has begun?
Sink like Jonah. Continue to cry out to God. Stop trying to do things that you think will help God help you. Nothing through your own willpower can conjure any merit to aid in your deliverance. If it could, you would have found grounds for boasting and an "escape hatch" for the next excursion. The truth is that you are totally helpless, and a helpless man can do nothing but remain still and know that God is God.
Do not doubt His love your you, Daniel. Even in the midst of all your failure. The greatest of saints have known the greatest of depths, the darkest of nights.
Hang in there, dear brother. The Lord is near. Breathe worship unto Him, remain still, have patience, and experience His wondrous salvation, though for now it seems to tarry.
Have faith in God.
Brother Paul
Hello all
My English is not so good. Thanks for all your responses. I need some time to read and respond. Thank you very much
Dear Brother Daniel,
We use a lot of fancy words on here to describe something only God can do through you. Words like, "Just let it go and let God".
Think back to the time when you first got saved. What happened in those days?
Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
"Do the first works". It means do what you did the first time you came to the Lord.
What did you do first? You were convicted, you felt that you were a sinner, these first ones your feeling now. Now capitalize on it and repent. Just start crying out to the Lord for salvation. Get on your hands and knees and start wailing.
Your going to feel like nothings happening, your going to feel like it's no point. Stay on your knees and keep going don't listen to those feelings besides the flesh is against you anyway of course it doesn't want you to pray.
Now about your sin. Sin has a purpose, it will either harden you or drive you to God. In your case it's driving you to God, which is good. We've all been there at some point so your not alone. But it's how you look at sin that has destroyed your image of what God is.
God loves you, lets get that straight out of the way. If God can love you while in the world without Him, He will love you much more now being in the commonwealth of Jesus Christ. Your perception of Him has been marred that if your sinning then God must be angry with you so you have a hard time going home to Him. The whole idea of grace is so that you can come to God freely because we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. It doesn't say we have peace with God through you or I, the scriptures proved that it was not possible to go that way, so Christ comes to do what man could not do through his fallen nature.
So we understand that we have peace with God through our Lord. So God is not mad at you my friend, He is however a lovely Father so He will put you through some hard knocks to knock out the garbage that keeps us doing what we have a hard time giving up.
Is it hard? You betcha! At first though, but it gets easier as you go along. It's only hard because we've been used to walking after the flesh, but when you begin to walk after your true nature, the Spirit than it gets easier.
We are creatures of pleasure, we want our fix whenever we want it and we get antsy when we can't have it. But you have to want God more than that to over come it.
To over come a sin, it's going to take more than reading the bible and hearing sermons. Read the bible yes, listen to sermons yes, but don't put your faith there, is what I am trying to say. Many people have gone this route only to live a life in the closet and be something else in public because they were told that by doing this they would be able to be free from their habitual sin. What your going to need is;
1) A love for God
2) A desire to overcome
3) Perseverance temptation when it comes on you.
Number One, if you love God your going to pray to Him even if you've sinned. Every time you do sin, give praise to God for the sin. Yes, you heard me. "Give thanks in all things for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning us". The Devil wants to condemn you in your sin, but turn it around and offer the praise to God for it because Christ our sin bearer took all sins upon Himself. Give your sin back to Christ, it does not belong to you. Jesus alone knows how to deal with it,, we do not, so don't hold unto something that is not yours.
Number Two, if you love God and your praying your going to want to please Him, so you will overcome. YOU WILL overcome. Get that into your spirit. If you love God, and your praying, YOU WILL OVERCOME.
Number Three, Persevering when being tempted. At your beginning, you like myself probably didn't have anyone to tell you about how to deal with temptation. We got a lot of theology, but no experience.
God loves you, lets keep believing that. He is there for your good, so just settle it in your heart that that is fact that will never go away. Temptation comes to prove you and I. If the Son of God Christ our Lord was tempted be sure that you and I will be too. He endured because He loved God and only wanted to please Him which meant obeying what He says.
At first when you begin to do the first works and you start to do something that seems awkward and foreign to our way of thinking, you may fall a few times but keep moving toward God. Don't allow a setback or a sin, or condemnation to keep you away from God. Only God knows how to deal with sin, you do not, give it back to the one who took your sins upon Himself, you have no right to keep it so give it to Him.
I find that when I am in the throes of temptation that saying the name of Jesus has quelled the urge of whatever it is I am being tempted in.
When Christ was driven into the wilderness to meet head on with Satan, Satan used the word of God to tempt the word of God (if you can imagine), but as the twisted word was coming out of Satan, the pure word of God was going back which irritated Satan to no end. He tried three times and couldn't stand it anymore and took off. Satan can't stand it when we resist Him. The more we resist in one thing, he will leave and come and tempt us in another area of our life but on a different level. That will go on till the day we die. Even Christ was tempted on the cross. "If thou be the Son of God, come down off the tree and we'll believe". Satan didn't give up even till His death, but when He died, Satan lost.
So you see, we are on the winning side. As Christ has overcome, so are you because you are in Him.
Don't let your sin keep you from coming to God. Always come to God even if you've sinned. Keep coming to Him.
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