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POWERFUL VIDEO: Coming Persecution To America - Paul Washer

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sermonindex

Saints,

This is a powerful reminder and warning to us of coming persecution to North America. May God prepare us and strengthen us to love our enemies and do good to those that persecute us. May we reach out with the love and mercy of Christ and His precious Gospel while there is time to do so lawfully even!

Coming Persecution To America - Paul Washer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakL0Je5XCw

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proudpapa

Hi Greg, I think we where on the same mind track.

I wish I could get a written transcript of this message

Thanks for this video

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Thats a great idea if someone felt led to simply transcribe this video and post it here for us!

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proudpapa

//Thats a great idea if someone felt led to simply transcribe this video and post it here for us!//

I know I personally would be very greatful for anyone who would.

I personaly would but my spelling, and puncuation are terrible, I doubt if I am on a fifth grade level, and I probably type about 10 words or less a minute.

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ADisciple

I've heard this message before and it's good. This particular video is hard to listen to because of the piano music someone decided to add for "dramatic effect." It certainly wasn't there when Paul Washer originally spoke this... I think at one of the SermonIndex conferences.

If someone can recall where the original is and redo it without the melodramatic piano background it would be welcome (at least to my ears).

Allan

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sermonindex

Paul Washer originally spoke this... I think at one of the SermonIndex conferences.

Yes brother Paul Washer spoke it at the first event we had in Lilburn Baptist in Atlanta, GA. That is where he preached the 10 Indictments message. The video is taken from a Q and A session. We made a new version of it and added the effects and music so that younger people and older alike will listen to the message, most people will not watch videos unless they really feel compelled, I felt led to try and get this video out again in another way to reach more with this important prophetic word for the body of Christ in North America.

This is the original video that has received over 80,000 views on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7UyZYpeReY

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Acts17

Best I can do. Peace of Lord Jesus be with you all!


"The church in America is going to suffer so terribly and you laugh now but they will come after us, they will come after our children, they will close the net around us while we are playing soccer mom and soccer dad, when we’re arguing over so many little things and mesmerized by so many trinkets. The net even now is closing around you and your children and your grandchildren and it does not cause you to fear. You will be isolated from society as has already happened, anyone who tries to run for office who actually believes the Bible will be considered a lunatic until finally we are silenced. We will be called things that we’re not and persecuted not for being followers of Christ, but for being radical fundamentalists who do not know the true way of Christ, which of course is love and tolerance. We’ll go down as the greatest bigots and haters of mankind in history. They’ve already come after your children and for most of you they got them. They got them through the public schools and indoctrination in the University and indoctrination and then you wonder why your children come out not serving the Lord. It’s because you fed them right into the devil’s mouth.

So, little by little the net is closing around and then it’s not little by little. Look how fast things are going downhill just in a matter of weeks, matter of weeks; but at the same time know this: persecution is always meant for evil, but God always means it for good. And is it not better to suffer in this life to have an extra weight of glory in Heaven? You must settle this in your mind, this is the one thing I want to say over and over: Do not believe, down through history you have a wrong idea of martyrdom and persecution, you think that these men were persecuted and martyred for their sincere faith in Jesus Christ, that was the real reason, but no one heard that publicly. They were martyred and they were persecuted as enemies of the state, as child molesters, as bigots, as narrow-minded stupid people who had fallen for a ruse and can contribute nothing to society. Your suffering will not be noble, so your mind must be filled with the Word of God when all people persecute you and turn on you and if the Spirit of God and common grace pulls back and you see even your children and your grandchildren tossing in the lot that you should die. This is no game.

You want revival and awakening, but know this, for the most part great awakenings have come only preceding great national catastrophes [of?] the persecution of the church. I believe God is bringing a great awakening but I believe that He is raising up young men who are strong in trust in the providence of God to be able to wade through the hell that’s going to break loose on us and it will be on us before we even recognize it; unless, unless in God’s providence He is not done, He is not done. And no[te?], this is, this is not silly talk. Apart from great awakening, these things are going to come upon you. Be ready to lose your homes, your cars, and everything."

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Solomon101

Greg,

Thank you for the vision and commitment to make these resources available to the body now.

A question that is a matter of our personal opinion on your part--

Do you feel that the Canadian Church is largely on the same timeline facing persecution as the American Church?

The Canadian Church has been seen as a bit ahead of the American Church as far as facing these things but do you believe that this is so? Do you seem to think that it is virtually the same? In essence it is "The North American Church" with the Canadian, American, and Mexican Church all standing in the same status?

I feel that the upcoming sessions and focus on the persecuted church you are hosting are so valuable and timely. Thanks again for your part in preparing the saints!

Blessings!

edited for clarity.

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sermonindex

Do you fee that the Canadian Church is largely on the same timeline facing persecution as the American Church?

Dear Brother, I absolutely believe that Canada is very much influenced by America. Therefore I mostly categorize North America together not including Mexico. As you have pointed out that on the major issue of gay rights (homosexuality) the Canadian society has welcomed such much faster then America.

Personally I believe most local churches are not prepared and not meeting in small groups and equipping individual believers to lead. We need dozens of pastors for each flock of saints so when some are taken away the body can still function properly. Also to have people depending on the Lord and the Word on their own and not watching TV preachers to help guide them is a major problem that is keeping many hearing messages of "peace, peace" when there will be no peace coming rather judgment.

The Church flourishes in all seasons of life whether peace or persecution, but when she is unhealthy she can fall prey to lukewarmness in either time. May God prepare His body for what is coming and may we be a praying Church much believe judgment truly comes.

It would do much better for all of us to use our time to prepare and be with the Lord more instead of as brother Paul said being entertained by "trinkets".

Jesus Christ is still the head of His Church and He loves His body so greatly. May we take great confidence in this and that He will wake up His body one way or the other.

Thank you for your thoughts brother and encouragement.

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sermonindex

Brother Paul is indeed correct. The storm is coming. We do indeed have to settle it now, we have to be ready. I might add one thought, when it fully takes shape, when the great whore church is in place, full of religionists and those who never did have a genuine relationship with God, they will come after those who are " known," and they will do it believing they do God and the world and the cause of peace and harmony and tolerance a favor.

It is very important that Christians do not get swept up into politcal causes as we begin to see traversties of justice unfold against us. Every part of your flesh will scream out for justice but remember, when yout time comes, that Jesus stood dumb before His accusers and Pilate marvelled. Have you ever made anyone marvel brothers and sisters? Or do you and will you re-act like the world when the world accuses you and reviles you and bears false witness against you and threatens you with what they can do to you? Jesus stood silent, in all of His power and glory He stood silent. One thought and the world would cease to exist but He remained silent and Pilate marvelled. Do you have the power in you to make the world marvel? The world understands all too well how the flesh acts. When we act and react just as the world doed they sneer and the enemy of our souls chuckles.

In the coming storm, do the right thing always and let them do what they may for may I suggest to you that it is God Himself who has and will bring judgement upon this land. Will you react like Jerimiah or Habakkuk, will you be amazed and dismayed at the hand that has been allowed to come against us? Judgement begins at the house of the Lord. Let us stand dumb before our accusers and be led as lambs to the slaughter, let the only words that come out of our mouths be words of life and light to men, not words of defence against an enemy who has already made up its mind and knows what it is going to do to us. They only have power because it has been allowed. God has a plan................brother Frank

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Solomon101

Greg,

Thank you for your insight.

I am in full agreement with your statements.

I have been blessed by the ministry of SI tremendously. In fact I have downloaded what I believe are the most important 100, or so, messages on SI for me personally. The purpose is not actually for me. It is for me to share with others after persecution arises.

As a pastor of a local church I am guiding our leadership to find places of community that will continue if we were to have to "dissolve" above ground and go to an "underground" model of operation. As you are well aware, that may certainly come to pass within the next decade or so. David Wilkerson's prophecy's of such come immediately to my mind.

In your opinion what are the two or three key areas for local churches to focus on, and spend their limited resources upon, in the next few years preparing their people for the potential coming persecutions?

Again, thanks to you for the blessing in my life of SI. It will bear fruit that only eternity will reveal!

Blessings!

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ADisciple

Thanks to Acts17 for transcribing this message further back on this thread for those of us who can't hear the video clearly.

Allan

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sermonindex

The church in America is going to suffer so terribly and we laugh now but they will come after us.
They will come after our children.They will close the net around us while we are while we are playing soccer mom and soccer dad, while we are arguing over so many little things and mesmerized by so many trinkets. The net even now is closing around you and your children and your grandchildren and it does not cause you to fear. You will be isolated from society as is already happened.
Anyone who tries to run for office who actually believes the Bible will be considered a lunatic until finally we are silenced.We will be called things that we are not and persecuted not for being followers of Christ but for being radical fundamentalists who do not know the true way of Christ which of course is “love and tolerance”.
You’ll go down as the greatest bigots and haters of mankind in history
They’ve already come after your children and for most of you, they got them.
They got them through the public schools and indoctrination in the university and you wonder why your children come out not serving the Lord. It’s because you fed them right into the devil’s mouth. So little by little the net is closing around and then it’s not little by little.
Look how fast things are going downhill in just a matter of weeks, but at the same time, know this, persecution has always been for evil but God always means it for good and is it not better to suffer in this life to have an extra weight of glory in heaven.
You must settle this in your mind, this is the one thing I want to say over and over:
Do not believe...down through history, you have a wrong idea of martyrdom and persecution
You think that these men were persecuted and martyred for their sincere faith in Jesus Christ.
That was the real reason but no one heard that publiclyThey were martyred and they were persecuted as enemies of the state as child molesters, as bigots, as narrow-minded, stupid people who had fallen for a ruse and can contribute nothing to society.
Your suffering will not be noble,so your mind must be filled with the Word of God when all people persecute you and turn on you and if the spirit of God and common grace pulls back
and you see even your children and your grandchildren tossing in the lot that you should die.
This is no game.You want revival and awakening. but know this,for the most part great awakenings have come only preceding great national catastrophes of the persecution of the church.I believe God is bringing a great awakening, but I believe he is raising up young men who are strong in trust in the providence of God to be able to wade through the hell that’s going to break loose on us. And it will be on us before we even recognize it unless, unless in God’s providence, He is not done, He is not done. And note, this is not silly talk, apart from great awakening, these things are going to come upon you. Be ready to lose your homes, your cars, everything. Paul Washer

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ADisciple

Greg said, "We need dozens of pastors for each flock of saints so when some are taken away the body can still function properly."

I recall a testimony by a Chinese pastor years ago. He had been imprisoned, and while in prison spent a lot of time worrying about his flock being without a shepherd.

When he got out and returned to them more or less wringing his hands and expecting to find they had been scattered... he was amazed (and humbled, he added)to see they had actually grown both in numbers and in stature!

...They had a Shepherd all along who'd never left them for a minute.

Allan

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sermonindex

Sorry I sent this before I saw Acts 17. Well, it was a good one to ponder. Thanks for posting it.

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sermonindex


In your opinion what are the two or three key areas for local churches to focus on, and spend their limited resources upon, in the next few years preparing their people for the potential coming persecutions?

Brother, this is a very weighty and important question you have asked. If a local church is serious about being on God's timetable for coming persecution and believe they need to warn and help the flock of God then I would recommend a few things.

1. The most important is to assemble the entire local church in small groups and in some cases setting servant leadership over some of the groups. But allowing leadership to grow in these churches so the people of God can meet as church without a "paid pastor" present. This does not replace the sunday service where the main pastor would still be a shepard teacher over the flock. This is an important step and in some cases it could be recommended to "require" everyone to meet as such in small groups if they want to be a part of the local assembly.

2. The access of funds can be a blessing or a curse in any country or group. the Lord leading to use the monies for His kingdom work is of vital importance. To put some funds into the development of home groups in the church also known as cell groups that are solid functioning well can take resources such as books, materials etc. It can be good to have developed a song book for the fellowships so they can operate with worship during the week.

3. Establishing prayer as the vital element of the church is very important also because only by spending much time with the Lord can an assembly correctly use its resources well. Putting more money into missions, tracts and evangelism as directed by the Lord can be fruitful and very God glorifying.


Essentially the underlying factor is to see the body of Christ, each individual equipped as much as possible as a disciple of Jesus Christ ensuring each one is fruitful in their walk with the Lord. So the idea of daily discipleship should be emphasized and not just sunday Christianity. I wrote an article which touches on this need:12 Principles Learned From the Underground North Korean Church - https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/articles/index.php?view=article&aid=29825

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sermonindex

I recall a testimony by a Chinese pastor years ago. He had been imprisoned, and while in prison spent a lot of time worrying about his flock being without a shepherd.

When he got out and returned to them more or less wringing his hands and expecting to find they had been scattered... he was amazed (and humbled, he added)to see they had actually grown both in numbers and in stature!

...They had a Shepherd all along who'd never left them for a minute.

Amen brother this is true but in American Christianity I believe sadly this would not be the case for many. We have not been taught to have body life and to operate as the body of Christ in North America. We have depended much too much on leaders, tv preachers, and anointed teachers, we have not been taught to feed on Christ ourselves. This is the difference with the Chinese christians who were all taught to minister, all taught to evangelize, all taught to prophesy.

but I do agree with your statement that in the end we all have our Chief Shepard the Lord Jesus who will Shepard each of us as His own people.

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Solomon101

Greg,

Again, I appreciate your insight and the SI site overall.

Good thoughts in your response. I agree that these are VERY important issues at the hour in which we live.

I will make some connections within the week as far as the upcoming conference is concerned. It is so critical for the hour we live in!

Again, my thanks for your efforts on SI. As a pastor I an indebted to your work that makes so much available to those I serve.

Blessings to you and your new family Greg!

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sermonindex

Again, my thanks for your efforts on SI. As a pastor I an indebted to your work that makes so much available to those I serve.

Thank you brother I am humbled to be able to just simply share some of my opinions, I only see things dimly as in a mirror I so appreciate all the other views of so many of the saints on this site especially on this subject. Just so you know any local church or home fellowship can signup a simulcast location for this conference: https://img.sermonindex.net/pdf/broadcastlocation1.pdf

Let me know any way I can serve you further.

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Trekker

Thank you Brother Frank. I found that helpful. All the same, i am so tired.

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proudpapa

Thanks, Acts17 and lesmanto

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ADisciple

From the Paul Washer segement: "Your suffering will not be noble..."

It's one thing to anticipate a glorious martyrdom at the hands of those who are persecuting you because you are a Christian. How noble! We suffer for Christ... with stirring music in the background. (Sorry, Greg, I couldn't resist. :)

What about finding yourself in a situation where there is no stirring background music? What about being falsely accused of being, say, a pedophile, or a fornicator? The early Christians were persecuted because, among other things, the Romans accused these "brothers and sisters" of incestuous acts in their secret "love feasts." And cannibalism-- eating the flesh and drinking the blood of this strange personage "Jesus." They were hard working upstanding citizens, yet considered "enemies of the state," as Washer pointed out.

The cross in Roman days was the ignominious death of a despised criminal. In Christ's case it was absolute injustice-- false accusation, and this at the hands of those who thought they were doing God service.

It's this that is "the death of the cross." Unjust suffering. It's this that Christ endured. He was led as a Lamb to the slaughter, opening not His mouth. He committed His cause to Him that judgeth righteously. We will need to do the same.

Allan

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MaryJane

by ADisciple on 2012/7/31 18:52:13

Greg said, "We need dozens of pastors for each flock of saints so when some are taken away the body can still function properly."

I recall a testimony by a Chinese pastor years ago. He had been imprisoned, and while in prison spent a lot of time worrying about his flock being without a shepherd.

When he got out and returned to them more or less wringing his hands and expecting to find they had been scattered... he was amazed (and humbled, he added)to see they had actually grown both in numbers and in stature!

...They had a Shepherd all along who'd never left them for a minute.

Allan

_____________________

Thank you for sharing this with us I found it so encouraging to me. We do have a Shepherd and HE never does leave us. Amen!!

God Bless
maryjane

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ADisciple

MaryJane said, "We do have a Shepherd and HE never does leave us."

Yes, that's very encouraging, MaryJane. David a shepherd of Israel taught the people to say (as all true pastors do), "The LORD is my Pastor, I shall not want... Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me..."

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sermonindex

Very sobering words from a servant of God. Last week these same words were uttered by another servant of God. When brothers, of the caliber of Carl Moeller and Paul Washer, weigh in on this matter. When they say that persecution is coming up on the church in N. America,. Tbeir words are nit to be dismissed lightly. Now are response is yes, God it is true. Persecution is comming. Please instruct me as to what to do.

Bearmaster.

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sermonindex

Again reflecting on Paul Washer's message. He said your mind must be filled with the word of God when they persecute you.. How much time am I giving to listening and reading the word. The average person spends 4 to 6 hours in front if the TV. Not counting the internet Ir video games.

In China, young children and adults will spend six hours or more in the word. That is at night. After working hard all day in ministry or a cottage industry

It makes me wonder are we really ready for persecution. How many of the saints will be standing. Even in this forum when Bible threads are started they die a slow death. Only one I an aware of still continues.
I read on the VOM magazine that the word is important to the persecuted. That is all they have. The word. Yet we seem to think it is not that important. Am I missing something here?

I remember listening to a Keith Daniel sermon where he spoke to a group of young people encouraging them to get into the word. How true should that be for any of us?

I remember reading an account by John MacArthur where he was in England. Someone showed him what was known as a martyrs Bible. It was probably one of Tyndale's forbidden New Testaments. The pages of the Bibke were stained with the tears of the previous saint who read it.
One other thing the pages of the Bible were stained with the blood of that precious saint who read ut. This was meant to be an Insult. But the Bibles called martyrs Bibles weren't highly prized by other saints at the time.

When the fifth seal was broken. The souls who had been slain were found under the altar where they had willingly laid down tbeir lives for Jesus. These were the martyrs, the witnesses. These saints were slain for the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.

Will our Bibles show we have been martyred for Jesus. Will our Bibles testify to our blood being shed in our witness of him. I think God is requiring more of us than merely buying a chicken sandwich. Are we prepared to give it.

Posted by Bearmaster.

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DEADn

Striking words from Paul. Science and politics are contributing to this. Even the response from the Chick Fila incident has brought out those who would cast out the nets. Bloggers and a few people on my FB page have had their say and are using logic to show how dumb it supposedly was. It doesn't dignify a response in reality. Only shows ignorance while they call us bigots. what a buzz word.

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sermonindex

I had to go back and listen to this. I bad to be reminded that there is more here than just a chicken sandwich.

Dear Jesus. Awaken us to the urgency of the hour. Guard us from making our bellies our god. May we not be enemies of the cross of Christ. Lord may we be delivered from trinkets and superficiality. Call us to the sufferings of Jesus. In your name. Amen.

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sermonindex

Brothers and sisters you may want to take a look at this video again. As you listen to it. I think some of the things being argued on this forum will pale in comparison against the encroaching darkness coming up on the Bride of Christ in America.

If memory serves our brother, Paul Washer, gave this message which is very prophetic in 2011. Imagine how much darker things have grown.

May God awaken us to the urgency of the hour.

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