There is so much I have to respond to as for doctrine it is important as much as the difference between a Jehovah's witness and a Christian,
What breaks my heart about these two movements specifically it is deceptive and people are specifically prohibited from speaking about there faith, some do.
What I find is people do not do is question the absolute obvious the courses and general meetings that happen against scripture,
One thing that I want to make obviously clear I believe in miracles and good works but simply if Christ does not get the glory or if you, but I do not believe in socialism or a social gospel as we become no better than mormans or most of the world who do good works to get into heaven or think they are. Why do churches spend time and money helping people on the street if they die in a car crash next day and end up in torment for the rest of eternity. It is like putting a band aid or plaster on cancer.
1 cor 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned , and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long , and is kind ; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself , is not puffed up , 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly , seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked , thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth : but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail ; whether there be tongues, they shall cease ; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away . 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come , then that which is in part shall be done away . 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly ; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known . 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Most people I speak to on when I am preaching the gospel have not done a biblical study on love nor have seen the quotes Jesus states about hell
As love rejoices in the truth and does not rejoice in iniquity, thinketh no evil.
These movements only offer temporary hope not everlasting hope.
Revelation 20:15 KJV
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Mark 9:43 KJV
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off : it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:44 KJV
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched .
Mark 9:45 KJV
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off : it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:46 KJV
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched .
Mark 9:48 KJV
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched .
I am not doing a comprehensive study of how many times Jesus spoke about hell, these movements lack real love because real love would tell them the truth.
I know I am a sinner and a greater mess than most of you.
To me it breaks my heart with this movement. As it lacks the power of the gospel and the offence
Romans 1:16 KJV
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth ; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Romans 15:19 KJV
Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.
Romans 16:25 KJV
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began ,
1 Corinthians 9:12 KJV
If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 Corinthians 9:18 KJV
What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel , I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
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1 Thessalonians 1:5 KJV
For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
2 Timothy 1:8 KJV
Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2 Corinthians 2:16 KJV
To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?
As Christians we need Jesus and we have a powerless message without the gospel and one that is not grounded in biblical love
My heartache is that our churches are brimming full of program's that our not wrong in themselves but not scriptural.
It is wood, hay and stubble which will be burnt by gods consuming fire, works that our of no heavenly value.
One of my personal prayers as c s Lewis stated help me know the real Jesus and the real me as we are going to meet him and he is real. We better not have an imaginary thing we have made up from our imaginations but a biblical Jesus based in time and space and who lives now. The Jesus of biblical texts is who we worship and the thing he said about knowing are selves as the scriptures are a mirror on our soul that shows us what we are truly like as it is us and Jesus standing on judgement day.
This is what I hate about these movements a false facade and many others that are masked in Christian love but lack the love of scripture and more likely from hell.
As Denny Kensington put it the greatest deception is self deception, deliver us from that. As I know we all can be deceived in areas that our obvious and it is only the grace and truth of the lord Jesus that opens our eyes.
From a wretched sinner who needs a greater saviour