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The role of the remnant church in these last days.

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The Remnant’s role has changed down through the centuries, but always at her core she has been called to be a witness, an eye-witness to Gods glory. This is the essential heartbeat of Gods Remnant bride and always will be. In this role she has been used as a sanctuary, the sanctuary, the Holy of Holy’s. She is a tabernacle in the wilderness, she is Gods temple here on earth. She is a place for the weary and the lost and forsaken. At the same time she has always been despised by the religious spirit. These are people who confess God with their mouths but who have not received God’s glory, who have never encountered the glory of the living God. In these last days God has a special role for His Remnant people and of course this will only increase the hatred by those of the religious spirit. God says in His word through His prophet Zechariah that ” In that last day a fountain shall be opened up for the house of David,” and God Himself says again through the prophet that ( speaking of Christendom) “Two thirds in it shall be cut off and die. But one-third shall be left in it. I will bring the one-third through the fire, I will refine them as silver is refined and test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name and I will answer them. I will say ” This is my people.” (Zec 13:8-9)

And so we see that a fountain shall be opened in that day for the house of David. Can you imagine how welcome a fountain would be in the midst of a dry and thirsty land, a land racked with drought and famine? I want us, as we consider the role of the Remnant in the last days, to look at two men of God and see what parallels we can draw. Let’s look at Noah and as we look let’s think about the context of the time in which he lived. It’s a time and a place of great wickedness and as we know, there would only be a tiny fraction saved. Noah is commissioned to build an ark over a long period of time. Now, we know that Noah faced ridicule and scorn. First of all what he was building have never been built before. Secondly, rain had never fallen from the sky and the notion that the whole earth would be covered by a flood was preposterous to all who lived then.

Every day Noah’s hammer could be heard, every day the ark took shape and was rising up. The continuous hammering would have been a great source of irritation to all around him. Noah would have to keep building despite the ridicule and the scorn and the anger because the rain was surely coming and he was being obedient to his calling. We too as Gods Remnant people have to keep true to what the Lord has called us to. We are also in the ark business. There was one place of salvation when the rains of judgment began to fall, it was the ark. Can I put it to you brothers and sisters that the Remnant church of God is God’s ark built by the hands of Jesus. With the judgments beginning to fall, with the beginning of the birth pangs, it will become apparent that God has a people who have not bowed the knee to Baal. God is getting ready to reveal His ark by bringing judgment and allowing the rise of the anti-christ. This ark will be a witness to the glory of God and His way of escape. This ark will be used as a last chance for the un-redeemed of the world to be saved before final judgment. This ark will be revealed to the world by isolation and persecution, all of the world will see this ark and they will be without excuse when that day comes, for this ark is the glory of Christ here on the earth and He reveals Himself through what He has built.

Now lets consider Joseph and consider the context and the back-drop of his day. Here we have Joseph who has been called to save a Remnant. ” And God sent me before you to save a Remnant in the earth and to save your life by a great deliverance.” ( Gen 45:7) Before Joseph could do this he had to be scorned and ridiculed by his own. Because of dreams and visions then that scorn turned to anger and hatred. He was then rejected and sold into slavery. He becomes a slave and then is wrongfully accused and ends up in prison, seeming forgotten and forsaken. Yet, God of course had never left him. This is part of the Remnant path. Many will relate even as they read this. Yet God had not forsaken Joseph and even in prison Joseph moved in the supernatural. He was able to interpret dreams and visions and this would lead him to see that a great famine was coming upon the land. He was able to make provisions that would save ” A Remnant in the earth.”

Can you see the pattern behind this brothers and sisters? Can you relate to the suffering and the rejection and the seeming forsakeness that Joseph surely felt as he languished in the prison, far from home and separated from everything he knew? The pattern is that when there is great judgment coming upon the land, God has a people or a person whom He will send ahead to enable whoever will, to escape that judgment. God has created such a vehicle in His Remnant. And they too, just like Joseph, must be despised and rejected by the very one’s they have been sent to save. Of course, this is the divine pattern. We see our Lord Jesus walk down this path. He came from the glories of heaven and the right hand of the Father, emptying Himself and humbling Himself in order to walk amongst those who He had come to save, yet He became despised and reject, tortured and killed.

And now with the final judgment fast approaching, the ark which Jesus has been building for 2000 years is almost ready. God’s remnant church down through the last 2000 years has been scorned, ridiculed hated and despised and hunted down and killed and almost all of this was done by ” their own.” People who would profess God with their lips. And now these very people will have one last chance to join with the remnant and escape the final judgment that is coming upon the whole world. Most will not, some will. Glory to God He is willing to go to great lengths to save the some who will, this is the mark of His great love for the world. And so God is raising up small gatherings where His presence can be found in the midst of a great drought and famine which we are in and which is merely a pre-cursor to the final judgement. Will you forsake all and take your place with the few?

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And now with the final judgment fast approaching, the ark which Jesus has been building for 2000 years is almost ready. God’s remnant church down through the last 2000 years has been scorned, ridiculed hated and despised and hunted down and killed and almost all of this was done by ” their own.” People who would profess God with their lips. And now these very people will have one last chance to join with the remnant and escape the final judgment that is coming upon the whole world. Most will not, some will. Glory to God He is willing to go to great lengths to save the some who will, this is the mark of His great love for the world. And so God is raising up small gatherings where His presence can be found in the midst of a great drought and famine which we are in and which is merely a pre-cursor to the final judgement. Will you forsake all and take your place with the few?

Amen brother, well said. May we follow the Lord no matter what the cost for His Name Sake (Matthew 10:17-22)

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Such is the hope for countries such as N. Korea, Eritrea, or Iran. That there us a remnant church bringing forth the light of Christ into those dark nations. We calk it the persecuted church.

Such will ve the hope for America. A remnant church which soon will be called the persecuted church.

Bearmaster.

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These are good thoughts concerning the remnant church in the last days. It's not too hard to discern that the life and principles of the true church are cutting more and more against the grain of modern thought and modern "wisdom." The church is destined to become more and more of a burr pricking aginst the hide of modern thought and practice. One thing I believe is that the remnant church also has a divine calling to be a friend and succorer to Israel in the days coming. It's my opinion that the issue of the Jews in the land in the Middle East and the ownership of Jerusalem are going to become epi-center of world conflict and instability in the times ahead. I wonder why the modern prophets seem always to neglect this aspect when they forecast things revealed to them for the coming year etc. Why don't the prophets speak of the hostility that is gong to come against the church because of the church's love for Israel when it is going to become leas and less popular to do so? Anyway, I believe the Jews and Israel are destined for suffering also in the days ahead and only the church will possess the key (the writings of the Hebrew prophets) to helping Israel understand what is going to befall them. That doesn't leave out a universal witness to all, Gentile or Jew, who will listen but anti-semitism is rising again and the long enstrangement between the church and Judaism may be broken down by a remant church willing to lay its life on the line for a beseiged Israel and Jewry in the days ahead.

That's all.

Blessings to you.

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Here is a post from David Wilkerson that someone left on my website today in response to this post. It is apt and powerful and brother David is saying what the Lord spoke to my heart. I miss that dear brother.......... bro Frank

The prophet Samuel is a type of the last-days holy remnant—a prepared body of believers that rises out of the ruins of the old, decadent church.

Hannah, Samuel’s mother, birthed her son through bitter tears and much prayer. “And she was in bitterness of soul, and prayed to the Lord and wept in anguish” (1 Samuel 1:10).

Try to imagine the scene: Hannah was at the temple every day, on her knees before the altar, crushed and broken because she was childless. As she wept, her adversary—her husband’s other wife—made fun of her. “And her rival also provoked her severely, to make her miserable, because the Lord had closed her womb” (1 Samuel 1:6).

There are three important things I want to point out from this passage:

First, the remnant that Samuel represents is born in grief and intercession.

Second, those who pray and grieve after God’s heart will be provoked by adversaries.

And third, God’s remnant is always going to be misunderstood!

Note what happened to Hannah as she prayed: “And it happened, as she continued praying before the Lord, that Eli watched her mouth. Now Hannah spoke in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard. Therefore Eli thought she was drunk. So Eli said to her, ‘How long will you be drunk? Put your wine away from you!’” (1 Samuel 1:12-14). Eli and his sons represent the dying, corrupt church that has forsaken the Lord’s way. Eli was so out of touch—so dead in his spirit—he thought Hannah was drunk!

When Hannah was praying, she was filled with grief, burdened for the birth of a son. All she could do was move her lips because of her groaning in the Spirit. She prayed, “If You will indeed look on the affliction of Your maidservant and remember me, and . . . will give Your maidservant a male child, then I will give him to the Lord all the days of his life” (1 Samuel 1:11).

Here are two distinguishing marks of God’s holy remnant:

They pray like Hannah. Their burden is deep and their heart is stirred because of the wickedness in God’s house.

Like Hannah, they give themselves to prayer every day of their lives.

God wants to make you like that. He wants you to be able to touch Him and hear from Him. He wants to give you a ministry to others who will come to you with their burdens and trials. And as you pray for them, His Word will come forth! (David Wilkerson)

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HI docs, I believe in the end days that there will be a great whore church that will engulf all the major religions of the world. The anti-christ will be a friend to Israel and will bring about a comprehensive peace deal in the middle east which will be signed by all nations. Peace will be declared in our day, we will seemingly be brought back from the brink of the abyss of world war and the world will rejoice, but the Remnant church will speak the truth and not fall for this great delusion. He will then make war on the saints of the earth and every nation will be against those who stand against the anti-christ and his false prophet.

The aim of the anti-christ will be to destroy every genuine believer on the earth. This coming persecution is what many saints, including myself, have been speaking of now for a number of years. Our greatest persecutors will be a religious body empowered by the state to identify every " enemy," of peace and harmony in the world. The world, so sickened and tired of hatred between Jews and Muslims and "Christians," will have no time for anyone who says that the tenents of this great whore church is anti-christ. We will be seen as trouble-makers and destroyers of peace, we will be branded as bigots ( not to be confused with todays genuine bigots) and ultimately enemies of the state.

The world will have such a genuine revulsion for us that they will want us gone. Of course that peace deal that he makes with the world will be broken at some point and the true nature of who he is will be revealed, but not until he has almost completed his task. Yet to those who would read these words and be afraid, can I tell you that God always has provisions for His saints. He will pour out His Spirit upon believers in a way that has never been seen before, it will not save them, but we will be a tremendous witness in the earth thus fulfilling our primary task here, to share the Gospel which means to proclaim the glories of God the Father and His glorious risen Son and to be a genuine eye-witness to the glory that He has given us.

Just as the world could not stomoch Paul and Peter and Stephen and the Apostles and the early saints and those who were full of God's glory, and it had to kill them all, then so to we who are that generation that are alive in the days just prior to the Lord's return and who go through the birth pangs and the great tribulation. And this in itself will be seperating the sheep from the goats metaphorically speaking. Let us press in now close to the heart of God that we may withstand in the evil day putting on the full armor of God..............bro Frank

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You said,

HI docs, I believe in the end days that there will be a great whore church that will engulf all the major religions of the world. The anti-christ will be a friend to Israel and will bring about a comprehensive peace deal in the middle east which will be signed by all nations. Peace will be declared in our day, we will seemingly be brought back from the brink of the abyss of world war and the world will rejoice, but the Remnant church will speak the truth and not fall for this great delusion. He will then make war on the saints of the earth and every nation will be against those who stand against the anti-christ and his false prophet.

The aim of the anti-christ will be to destroy every genuine believer on the earth. This coming persecution is what many saints, including myself, have been speaking of now for a number of years. Our greatest persecutors will be a religious body empowered by the state to identify every " enemy," of peace and harmony in the world. The world, so sickened and tired of hatred between Jews and Muslims and "Christians," will have no time for anyone who says that the tenents of this great whore church is anti-christ. We will be seen as trouble-makers and destroyers of peace, we will be branded as bigots ( not to be confused with todays genuine bigots) and ultimately enemies of the state.

The world will have such a genuine revulsion for us that they will want us gone. Of course that peace deal that he makes with the world will be broken at some point and the true nature of who he is will be revealed, but not until he has almost completed his task. Yet to those who would read these words and be afraid, can I tell you that God always has provisions for His saints. He will pour out His Spirit upon believers in a way that has never been seen before, it will not save them, but we will be a tremendous witness in the earth thus fulfilling our primary task here, to share the Gospel which means to proclaim the glories of God the Father and His glorious risen Son and to be a genuine eye-witness to the glory that He has given us.

Just as the world could not stomoch Paul and Peter and Stephen and the Apostles and the early saints and those who were full of God's glory, and it had to kill them all, then so to we who are that generation that are alive in the days just prior to the Lord's return and who go through the birth pangs and the great tribulation. And this in itself will be seperating the sheep from the goats metaphorically speaking. Let us press in now close to the heart of God that we may withstand in the evil day putting on the full armor of God..............bro Frank (END)

Doc: Notwithstanding a few details I basically agree with you. It's seldom that the modern prophets seem to touch on many of these things when they gave their forecasts and share what God has revealed to them for the next season etc. What they say is true but Israel being the center of coming world conflict and the church's involvement seems to be missing many times. Anyway, hard times are pretty likely for us all and even as the church is straightened and humbled by these circumstances out of this humility and its own brokenness it will be able to speak a word of life to beseiged Israel. The church and Israel's destiny are beginning to merge again and the church is incomplete until the last natural branch is restored and the natural branches to be restored are incomplete without the church. It's God's wisdom to have set up this dynamic of circumstances and one of the things we urgently need to grasp I believe is that the remnant church will be here for the duration of the last events and won't escape right before they start.

Thank you.

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hi, woe is me... i certainly don't want to be a part of this morose thing called the church. who is the head of this gloom and doom organization with little hope?satan must have won all the victories in all the battles... Jesus is the head of His church and He has already defeated the enemy.He has declared an udying love for His bride. He was the fourth man in the furnace. He shut the mouths of the lions. He defeated sin and death.death hath no sting for He has won the victory. we must declare the GOOD NEWS, the gospel till He comes.. we must love our enemies and our brothers and sisters enough to prefer them with giving and time of ministry.although i walk through the valley of death i will fear no evil.suffering is not having your a/c go out in your nice car.we are going to go through some refinning so that our gold (He who lives within) shall shine.the most powerful force on earth is love, fear hath torment.beloved, let us love one another for love is of God and everyone that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God:he who loveth not knoweth not God for God is love.we walk in the victory already won on the cross.to live is Christ and to die is gain.jimp

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HI Jimp, once again brother your attitude is completly lacking in love and you do not even attempt to hide your contempt and disdain. Time and time and again you come in with comments like this. Its strange that so many times you seek to defend the Todd Bentlely's and torronto blessings of the world, giving lectures on how one should not judge, but you yourself have no problem attacking with contemptuous comments, people who happen to differ from you on the subject of end times or discernment. Very, very sad. If you do not like this thread, why do you feel the need to come on and try to dirupt a converation brother with contemptuous remarks............. bro Frank

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Thank you docs, I to agree with most of what you are saying. Maybe you can catch this weekend's conference, the subject matter is " The coming persecution of the Church in the west." I know that Jimp and some others may not want to hear that or tune in, but there will be many good brothers sharing there and I believe will be sharing prophetically. And it will of course be a message of triumph because the Lord is coming back and no matter what persecution comes to the genuine saints on earth, they will glorify their Lord and be an aye-witness to His glory. Not because they are healthy or wealthy or succesful in this world but because they love their Lord more than this wolrd itself or anything that it has to offer..............bro Frank

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my dear frank, i am sorry you took umbrage with my post. my style of humor and writing is not very well developed and i surely do not lack love for the brethren although i might disagree about celebrating the coming persecution, my point is that Jesus is the head and that He said nothing shall prevail against it. if and when persecution comes, what are we to do but to serve and die.i would like to ask how my post did not show love so that i can repent of this and move on. i had friends who were 7th day adv, and went to waco and to tenn. because they thought persecution was coming ... it sure was, from the usa. i had other friends who feared y2000 . who moved and stored food and drink.(were they going to share it with others in need at the time?)i certainly sorry if i offend anyone on this sight.jimp

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Well brother, you search your own heart and if it is good before the Lord then who am I to say otherwise? I personaly think that it is more helpful in a thread to commment on the original post itself rather than make comments like .......... "woe is me." or ........

"i certainly don't want to be a part of this morose thing called the church. who is the head of this gloom and doom organization with little hope?satan must have won all the victories in all the battles"

Now brother, what is the context for that statement? What in the original post would encourage you to make that above statement, there seems to be no humor in it at all unless it was mocking humor? The original post used Noah and Joseph as examples of people who had to go through trials and tribulations before victory came. If you have not been called to speak of coming persecution, why mock God's people who have? If you had a specific objection to content, why not comment on a specific objection? There is a whole Sermonindex conference coming up devoted entirely to this subject and yet you handily write it off with what you call humor? There are brothers coming to speak on this subject who have been subject to mocking and apathy and have went through much spiritual warfare just to attend this conference and speak as God has led them to speak. Now I wonder if you got that part brother Jimp, " as God has called them to speak." I would advise, before making such statements again, to check your heart bro and see if it is right before the Lord. If you say that you are comfortable with those statements then you will have the last word. ...........bro Frank

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dear frank, thank you for responding. i do disagree with the upcoming conference ,but that does not make me right. i have been wrong often in my life.joseph survived his trials because he had faith in God as did noah.they were blessed way above all men on the earth in their lifetime and became a blessing to others. i believe Jesus is the only answer and i am ready to go through anything trusting in His finished work that saves,delivers, sanctifies, heals.sozo...thank you for your kindness.jimp

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Hey Jimp, you write..........

" i believe Jesus is the only answer and i am ready to go through anything trusting in His finished work that saves,delivers, sanctifies, heals.sozo...thank you for your kindness.jimp"

Now brother here is where we can agree and I say a hearty amen to that. If you do not watch any of the upcoming conference, I urge you to at least tune in and listen to the very last speaker, Brian Long. He is a good friend of mine and I know something of what he is going to be sharing. Watch it with an open heart brother and please let me know what you think. If you still disagree then we can simply agree to disagree while still respecting one another's position. I am sure you would agree that this is how the Lord would have us to act...........bro Frank

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You wrote,

"Thank you docs, I to agree with most of what you are saying. Maybe you can catch this weekend's conference, the subject matter is " The coming persecution of the Church in the west." I know that Jimp and some others may not want to hear that or tune in, but there will be many good brothers sharing there and I believe will be sharing prophetically. And it will of course be a message of triumph because the Lord is coming back and no matter what persecution comes to the genuine saints on earth, they will glorify their Lord and be an aye-witness to His glory. Not because they are healthy or wealthy or succesful in this world but because they love their Lord more than this wolrd itself or anything that it has to offer..............bro Frank" (END)

I'm glad you reminded me of the upcoming conference on persecution etc. I was going to tune in but it just so happens that on Sat morn I will be relocating from Tallahassee, Fla. to Savannah, Ga. Please pray for me as I thought long and hard and have prayed much over the move. I got some pretty clear indications it was of the Lord and so I am going to try it whether I fail or not. I'm no spring chicken anymore and have gotten sort of settled in and it seems a easy and convenient path was where I was at. Family and friends and my hometown are close and all but yet I wasn't at peace with my settled and content peace if that makes any sense. I don't want to go gently into the good night and just do what everybody else is doing and along the way our zeal and witness for the Lord gets mediocre and settled and hemmed in by convenient and comfortable living circumstances etc. So I'm going to make this move and see how it goes. I have some work years left and part of the move is to get to a better working environment than is here right now. So there is a practicial side to the move also.

Meanwhile, I am going to notify several friends by email today and let them know of the conferecne so they might tune in if they wish. I'[m very glad this conference will address the issue it has chosen. Thanks again for the reminder.

Blessings to all on sermonindex

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Hi All,
I think it was Ruth Graham who said "if God doesnt judge America then he owes Sodom and Gommorah an apology.
So I think that America will be judged and the west as well.
However this persecution issue is different than judgement.
Persecution may well come but it has very little to do with the end times.The bible clearly indicates that their will be an end times church that will challenge openly the world far away from the underground church talked about on Sermonindex.
The Church of the end times is a church of world wide revival including the USA and the West its world wide.
So maybe the prophets of the USA are correct (although I'm not convinced )and persecution is coming but it is not an end times persecution of the tribulation.If they are not correct however they are leading people down a cul de sac which is a big worry.
Also this remnant church idea of an underground movement is influenced by your end times views.I do not have an escape mentality when it comes to the end times,we are not gauranteed escape from persecution.
When it comes to Judgement where is the God of Mercy on this forum?The idea that we dont get from God what we deserve this is mercy.Why cant USA be Nineveh?
Yours Staff

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Hi staff, I appreciate your opinion and after all that's all any of us can say about the end times. I do not have an escape mentality about the end times, quite the opposite actually. The end times will be marked with a great falling away which I would argue that we are in the middle off. If you know of Ninevah, you will know that 100 years after the Great revival Ninevah was destroyed. America has had a great revival in the 20th century which flowed from the welsh revival and out of that came Azusa st.
So, by any standards we are ripe for judgment. The remnant church will be bold as lions and will not bow the knee to Baal or any other idol or whore church. This remnant church is a mighty army that marches on its knees and the world will hate it and come after it. If you know the history or the church you will know that it has always been that way and so it shall be again in these birth pang stages that are come upon us. ........ Bro Frank

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Thanks Frank,
Still singing away to broken pieces!
I think God can still even at this late hour put a stay on that Judgement.The hundred years earlier Judgement was preached to Nineveh,specific and credible.
Now an important aspect is that persecution and Judgement are different.We have always had persecution in all its forms.
The problem we have is that we look at whats going on around us right now through the binoculars of our end time view.If I believe that we are going through the tribulation I will have a different view of whats going on right now and what it means than if I believe we wont go through the tribulation.Our end time view affects what we think is going on right now and let no man think it doesnt.
You look at things now as the "great falling away" because you are sequencing the events of the end time through your view that we will go through the great tribulation.
The great falling away will be world wide not just localized to the west.The majority of people on the site are North American and as regards persecution it appears to me that they cant see the wood from the trees.They are genuine Christians no doubt on that but are living in a bubble which is the natural outcome of their end time view.
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Remnant:A small remaining quantity of something.

The bible shows that their will be a world wide revival sweeping millions and millions into the kingdom before he comes back and if the definition of a remnant church is a small church then I disagree wholeheartedly with the view that Jesus is coming back for a small amount of Christians.
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will not bow a knee to baal.

my beloved brother Frank, in my spirit i have much to write as led by the Holy Spirit,,but no Release, therefore i still my keyboard..this moment, sending up prayers of encouragment and love to the saints in Atlanta, please give Greg a holy kiss from me, May Brian be given a message from the Throne, and a ministry of weeping, is my prayer, in Jesus Name, amen, in the Love of God the Father and Jesus, our Mediator, i send my love unending, neil

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HI Staff, God bless you brother. All I would say that in the last 100 years it is reckoned that at least 200 million people have come to Jesus, starting with the Welsh revival and moving on. Now brother, that's an end time revival would you not agree. Consider the 3000 that were saved in Jerusalem at Pentecost, considered awesome of course. Yet the context is that there was over 1 million people in the city at that time. So I would argue, and you may disagree :) that we have had our last great worldwide revival and that the great apsotacy and the great falling away is what we now live in and the time has come to flee Babylon. Please, if you have not, listen and consider carefully what the speakers of the conference had to say this weekend. It was powerful and I would argue prophetic in nature. Thank you dear brother Neil, we so appreciated your prayers, they were wonderfully answered and the Lord's presence was mighty, mighty brother and of course Brian's word was straight from the throne......... bro Frank

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Hi Frank,
You know 200 million is great but it is the tip of the iceberg compares to the end.The end time revival is different than the welsh revival.Its shorter a brief period of time,it is world wide(no where is untouched) at the same time and it is hugeeeeeeeeeeee.Again I say that your answer is based on your bias that we go through the tribulation.
Yours Staff

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HI Staff, it is certainly based on my " understanding," that we go through the tribulation as your is undoubtedly based on that we do not :) God will undoubtedly pour out His Spirit and the latter glory will be greater than the former glory of that I have no doubt, but He will pour out this latter rain upon His remnant saints around the world and whosoever responds to their witness/martyrdom will, praise the Lord.

All the world will see this worldwide persecution of the saints and all the world will see the glory of the Living Christ magnified in these saints and all the world will have that for a witness and they then can choose life or death, all or nothing, a glorious choice and one the early saints knew and chose, and one that in every century saints knew and chose. The difference with this one is that the great whore church that encompasses the world will persecute the remnant saints at the behest of the anti-christ and that is why the glory of God will cover the whole world as the waters cover the sea. Again, please watch the speakers from this week-ends conference and consider what they had to say and see if God will not speak to you through them. I love you brother......... bro Frank

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The church is dead, it is spiritually dead, it's not what it is supposed to be. Why because God's people love themselves, they don't love God with all there heart and with all there soul and with all there strength.

So he has to change things; and thats why there is a massive Move of God coming, it’s going to huge it going to be like nothing that has happen in the past. The strength of the Move of God is going to be people, millions upon millions of people. These people will be raised up to face the Anti–Christ. If you want to see these people in scripture you only have to look at Rev 15:2. Yes persecution is coming but God is going to prepare his people to face what is coming they won’t be hiding away because we are the light of the world; a city on a hill can’t hide.

He will supply his people with the courage so they can stand boldly, he will supply his people with love and they will love not there life unto death and they will take the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to a lost and dying world. They will be a mighty people men and women of valor, Gods end time warriors that will live challenge and confront the powers of darkness. A holy people, a pure people with spot or wrinkle the garments will be as white as snow.

My two cents worth

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Thanks for your "two cents" Murrcolr. I think the early church is a good model to see what happens to sold out saints full of the Holy Spirit. Now if that happened to them( and who would hold a charge against them that they were not a mighty army of believers standing boldly in the Lord) then we too will be as lamb to the slaughter. Christ Himself will come back and defeat the anti-christ after the martyrs have taken their place with the other martyrs who cry out. I think this kingdom now, dominion theory has certainly filtered into Christendom ( not saying that you Murrcolr) The whore church will, along with the state, persecute, hunt down and eventually kill the saints. Now just because this is going to happen to the saints does not mean that they are not mighty in Christ standing boldly for their faith, in fact this is exactly what they are doing. It is the timid and afraid that will make up the whore church along with the religious. Its the bold sold out saints who will love not their lives even unto death that will be a witness in the earth to the whole world because the persecution will be worldwide, it has never been worldwide before, this is why the glory of the Lord through His saints will cover the earth, they will shine like jewel's in the darkness..............bro Frank

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Hi Appolus,
Yeah thats my point I look through one prism and you look through another and it affects how we interpret whats happening right now.I think that the rapture is in the middle for loads of reasons but mainly because of this.

If you believe in a Jezebel Church then you will also have to also believe in an Elijah Church.If you study the prophetic story around Jezebel the type of whore church,Ahab the type of Antichrist and Elijah then you will look at things differently.It shows that the Church of the end is huge,why that is so,it challenges and it is protected by God.You will see why it is so successful.Basically a study of the 3 characters mentioned tells you more of whats going to happen in the end than the whole book of revelation.!
This is why most people dont really understand whats going to happen,I challenge you to look again over the next few weeks at the passages in Kings and see what the Lord shows you
Thanks Brother Frank I feel your genuine spirit Yours Staff

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Staff I find it interesting you look to Elijah to characterize your idea of a huge remnant church in the end times. Elijah was the one who cried out to God he was the only one left. He told God that his prophets had been killed. God responded to Elijah that he had reserved 7000 that had not bowed their knee to Baal. Sounds more like a small remnant church one will see in the end times.

My thoughts.

Bearmaster.

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hi,if we are to be part of this remnant church then we are to go preach the good news with joy.we are to trust in Jesus for our protection and our results.we need to show the world that we really believe that Jesus has won the victory for us who believe at the cross. look the tomb is empty and He has conquered death and hell and sin for us. we need to rejoice evermore for this is the will of God.we should have faith that the victory has been won.we can do little or nothing but occupy with prayer, advance with the gospel and rest joyfully in the finished work of our King Jesus,the head of the church.jimp

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If you believe in a Jezebel Church then you will also have to also believe in an Elijah Church. If you study the prophetic story around Jezebel the type of whore church, Ahab the type of Antichrist and Elijah then you will look at things differently. It shows that the Church of the end is huge, why that is so, it challenges and it is protected by God. You will see why it is so successful. Basically a study of the 3 characters mentioned tells you more of what’s going to happen in the end than the whole book of revelation.

This is why most people don’t really understand what’s going to happen, I challenge you to look again over the next few weeks at the passages in Kings and see what the Lord shows you. staff.

Elijah typifies the life of the church very well but he also typifies Israel also. He comes out of nowhere, often spends time alone relying wholly on God for his sustenance. He is alone in life having no wife or children. This holy separation gives rise to righteous anger and zeal. Yet he is compassionate and merciful with those whom he is sent and those who seek him out. When he goes up to Mount Carmel for the destruction of the Jezebelic prophetic priesthood of Baal he does so not because God commands him to do it, but because he is able to obey the inner mind of understanding. He does not need to be told what to do. He is able to know what to do because he knows God and God’s ways and God’s righteousness and holiness. When he is most zealous he is most hated. When that hatred is filled up and Queen Jezebel issues a curse swearing to destroy him within a single day, he flees one days journey into the wilderness, taking shelter under a single tree. In the knowledge of his fathers he falls asleep. When he awakes he is ministered to by the Angel of The Lord with food and drink and again sleeps. When he awakes he is again ministered to by the Angel of The Lord with a little food and drink and being thereby strengthened he is able to continue on 40 days to the sanctuary of Mount Horeb and a cave. Having done all in the zeal of the Lord he is justified and given a fuller understanding of those who are left beside himself. He is removed from his place and another is appointed to it even Elisha. In the end he is taken alive into heaven. After he is gone a double portion of his calling and strength is given to the one who witnessed his going. If we are unable to find any encouragement in Elijah who will appear again at the end of this age then it is because we have not understood the end of this age yet.

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“Get ready for our own humblings. God is not going to send a stuffy, ‘we were right,’ ‘told you so,’ Church to Israel. He’s going to send a people who are like blinded Samson, who recover strength by the grace of God, having been deeply humbled.” (Reggie Kelly)

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Another “two cents”.

Quote: I think this kingdom now, dominion theory has certainly filtered into Christendom.

You’re correct and there is a subtle shift from what God will do through his people and what the Devil as a counterfeiter will try and deceive people to believe (kingdom now, dominion theory).
I am glad that people are seeing it for what it is and kicking out.

Elijah was sent to the people of God, God’s message to his people was simple it was in Elijah’s name “The lord is God” That’s what he proved to his people as he stood against the prophets of Baal (meaning the lord). He sent them a prophet to turn them back to God.

Likewise God will send a prophet to his people to turn them back to him and then God’s people will be raised up.
This is why I was so interested in the vision that your welsh relation had it was like what God’s been speaking to me about

1. He describes the people and the move of God in them
2. The prophet (The eagle) that speaks to the pastor to tell this move in the people comes from God.

These same people are the ones who will face the antichrist. And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. Rev 15:2

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Hi Bearmaster,
Elijah is all about confronting Jezebel and Ahab and causing their defeat.The story of Elijah is prophetic.It shows how god deals with the AntiChrist and the false church.The 7000 didnt bow the knee but ALL ISRAEL WENT OUT TO SEE ELIJAH,Elijah caused Israel to return to God and stop fence sitting.The end times church will be the 7000 and ALL ISRAEL sort to speak.
Here is an extract from JACOB PRASCH- Elijah a man that could make it rain-
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The three and a half years in which it did not rain is a type of the three and a half years referred to in Daniel and Revelation, when the Spirit will not be outpoured at the end of the world. It is a type of what happens eschatologicallly, when the spirit of Elijah comes back into operation in some way, as predicted by the prophet Malachi. Similarly, the way that Elijah rescued the Gentile woman and her son teaches something about the way that God is going to use the spirit of Elijah, somehow, to take care of the Gentile church at the end of the world.

Elijah, Elisha and John the Baptist all had the same spirit. The Lord told Moses that He would "take of the Spirit who is upon you, and will put Him upon" the elders of the people (Num. 11:17).

When events happen in the same geographical location it usually means that there is some spiritual and theological connection between them. Elijah's ministry ended on the plain of Jericho where Elisha received his mantle (meaning his authority), and John the Baptist's ministry occurred at the same place. The wicked woman, Jezebel, is a type of the woman Jezebel in the Book of Revelation – the spirit of false religion – who turned the king, the political power, into someone she could manipulate. On behalf of Ahab, she obtained Naboth's vineyard, which Ahab coveted. (1 Ki. 21) In scripture the vineyard speaks of Israel and, by extension or incorporation, the Church. The wicked woman tried to get the vineyard for the king. This brought her into conflict with Elijah and she persuaded the king to try to destroy Elijah. This is exactly the picture in the story of Herodias (Matt 14:3- 12) – the wicked woman turned the king against Elijah (John the Baptist).

Wicked women in the Bible all point in some way to the character of the wicked woman in the Book of Revelation where the conflict with Elijah is going to be replayed in the Last Days.
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Yours Staff

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