http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btq5LdfqJbg
Some of you may have seen this. A stenographer grabs the mic and begins to preach. Some say she went nuts. Was this a modern day John the Baptist type of thing or is she off the deep end? I have heard some people say she freaked out because of the government shutdown and her mind went crazy and this happened.
Is God speaking?
John
A follow up news story to the original story.
We can spot a false prophet when they say things that are clearly against the things of God. But, when things aren't so clear can we spot whether someone is speaking for God? This lady is a case in point. She comes across as 'crazy' to the normal person. Even a religious fanatic and some might say she is just crazy with this 'God stuff' but is it God speaking through her or is she just crazy?
This is spiritual discernment and this takes some spiritual maturity. Right?
John
John I could not download the video but did read the follow up article. At present I do not kbiw what to say. Is she speaking from God? Like you said. This is going to require some discernment.
Blaine
Of course they describe her as someone that "lost it."
I listened to the video and am very interested to know what others thought when they heard this woman speak.
God bless
maryjane
Please find a link below to a VERY clear recording of Dianne Reidy, an official reporter with the Office of the Clerk:
I was VERY edified by the message. There have been prayer groups forming all over this nation. And the bible is clear that correct praying produces fruit. Thank the Lord for His intercessors:
"Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much. Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months. Then he prayed again, and the sky poured rain and the earth produced its fruit" (James: 5:16-18).
Lord do it again. Do it again! KM
BTW, it is interested that Dianne said "He will not be mocked," three times. Maybe this does not mean anything, but the use of three in the Bible is significant. Here is an intriguing link below:
The whole root of the problem is a large amount of Americans believe America is a christian nation and in a sense a large church of sorts. This is not true and it is obvious to most that America does not represent the values of the Lord in large extent anymore at all even though "In God we trust" is on the back of their monies.
We battle not against flesh and blood, the government does not need to promote biblical values for the Church to thrive in a country. American Christians need to get to that place and be more concerned to personally evangelize the Gospel, pray and gather together as saints living holy lives.
Then they will be the salt of America.
The whole root of the problem is a large amount of Americans believe America is a christian nation and in a sense a large church of sorts. This is not true
Very true. I have not read or seen the preaching in question. But regarding of the attitude of many american Christians, they believe America as a Christian nation. This is wrong. No nation is Christian and can be Christian nation either. All we expect from a nation or its government as a Christian is to let us peacefully worship and Serve our God (1 Tim 2:2). But instead many Christians expect government to do our job of serving God.
May God bless America with good godly leadership.
Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to the people.
We are to pray for those in authority, those leading the nation. We should want people to turn to God in Christ. We should want our Leaders to do what is right in the sight of God.
We should not be negative toward the light of Christ that has been shown to the leaders of this nation since it's beginning.
Sadly I must agree that the United States of America is not a "Christian Nation."
But it was much better when it was, when nobody quibbled over the definition of what constituted a Christian Nation. When the verse came up in Sunday School, "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord," I remember being really glad that I lived in such a nation.
I was probably 10...?
Sad to see the United States being euthanized by its public officials at the cheering of ignorant throngs.
Quote: This is spiritual discernment and this takes some spiritual maturity. Right?
I guess, to be honest I'm not quite sure and therefore have my doubts.
brother Greg wrote:
The whole root of the problem is a large amount of Americans believe America is a christian nation and in a sense a large church of sorts. This is not true and it is obvious to most that America does not represent the values of the Lord in large extent anymore at all even though "In God we trust" is on the back of their monies.We battle not against flesh and blood, the government does not need to promote biblical values for the Church to thrive in a country. American Christians need to get to that place and be more concerned to personally evangelize the Gospel, pray and gather together as saints living holy lives.
Then they will be the salt of America.
to which I say "amen".
may I say a bit more?. Doubtless, this dear woman was much vexed in soul and spirit. I can understand that, as for MONTHS now, I find myself LAID OUT in sorrow and grief, LITERALLY weeping....some of it "personal work", much of it discerning the times....and....human words cant describe my sorrow, nor do I think of profit to engage in socio-political-psychological discussion, as bro. Greg aimed correct.
one thing we must remember about John the Baptizer...his forerunning ministry took him FAR ENOUGH from the "political/financial/religious" confusion that Jerusalem had become, so that his Calling would not be hindered....just far enough, so that the humble hungry "sheep of God" could be 'washed' and repent.....
and that is NOT to denigrate the leading this dear woman felt...onecan only imagine the depth of grief she felt.....and the grief I feel that this "cry" will be used to buttress "lies" about those "crazy Christians"....you better believe the devil is working overtime to noise that lie about.
think of this; sometimes it best, in His Leading, to leave Jerusalem....and make for Antioch.
do you understand what i'm saying?
YES! the LORD put it into Hezekiah heart to order the priests to clean the Temple of ALL filth, and praise God they did.....but as centuries went on, the Son of God Jesus, didn't take a broom to the Temple, he took a scourge, a whip, because it was done, it was too late, God's steadfast love and patience was nigh ending, and this building had degenerated into a "den of robbers"....and 37 odd years later, not one stone was left standing....yet up in Antioch?.....Apostolic Glory in Messiah Jesus.
for me personally, even through the grief and pain..and the torment of the realization of the UNPROFITABILITY of my own soul, I find this truth....the more I focus on the "world", the more I become filled with fear and loathing, which is sin, because fear is the opposite of Faith....but the more I focus on Jesus, and become eternity conscious, hungering for God...the more I become filled with the Spirit of God and the Shalom of God, which is what we need to BE the Profitable servant of Jesus....dying to the world, dying to self, and alive to God.
and I pray that's not just "religious palaver"....but eyes that can see, and ears that can hear. Jesus did not say this would be easy...oh no, he said the gate is narrow....Isaiah saw Messiah centuries before His earthly ministry, and we call this Four Songs....the SUFFERING Servant Songs...or as I just read in Psalm 137:
Those who sow in tears
shall reap with shouts of joy!
He who goes out weeping,
bearing the seed for sowing,
shall come home with shouts of joy,
bringing his sheaves with him.
Psalm 126:5-6
what she said sounded biblical in my opinion ,and she was more them likely a Christian ,,,but it was not preached with the anointing of a prophet ,or sanctioned by god as a message he wanted to deliver through a vessel he chose ,
I don't think she was a raving lunatic at all not at all
just a zealous indignated immature Christian , with passion
blessings
With all due respect, brother an immature Christian would not have said anything. Go read Jeremiah and Ezekiel and see if they had the "anointing of a prophet" of which you are speaking.
God commands us all to live and proclaim truth. As a Christian, I do not need some special calling or some other spirit apart from the Holy Spirit in order to do that--we are commanded to speak the truth in love, which I feel she did. The truth is hard to hear sometimes, but the most loving thing we can do for the people in our nation is tell them the soul-crushing, heart-humbling, life-giving truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
God did not appoint any of us to be her judge. By the Lord she stands or falls, not by us.
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A word on psychology--this is exactly the leverage that is going to be used against Christian here in the USA when persecution takes place in full-force. They are going to try to "fix" us.
"The whole root of the problem is a large amount of Americans believe America is a christian nation and in a sense a large church of sorts. This is not true"
Indeed brother. Here is what I heard the sister say, regardless of who she is or where she comes from.
1. You cannot serve two masters.
2. God is not mocked.
3. The constitution was written by and for Mason's.
The number one is clear, many worship the country of their birth, this is idolatry and you cannot worship both God and country, you will end up hating ( better translation of that word hating is " not preferring") one and loving the other.
Number two, obviously God is not mocked and what a man or a nation sows, it reaps. But one day is as a thousand years to the Lord so if judgement takes a few hundred years, men forget what they sowed but God does not.
Number three, well that can be an amalgam of one and two. Documents written by men, whether Mason or not, whether Deist or Christian or agnostic, are not to be worshiped and if they are, God will not be mocked by this idolatry.
This woman obviously counted the cost and spoke and I personally think it would be a mistake to focus on her rather than on what she said. If what she said is true, then men should rather consider the seriousness of God not being mocked. Or, they can laugh in the smugness of their unbelief which only adds to their judgement in that case..........bro Frank
If our brains can't quite figure out if this is truly God then how to can we rightly discern when God is speaking to us? It almost sounds controversial to say such a thing yet isn't it true. We are often quick to point out false prophesy because it will disagree with scripture but with outburst such as this why do we hesitate? Is it because some of us think she sounds a bit loony and we don't want to be counted with that? Maybe our prayer life stinks and this outbursts just exposed it within ourselves. I know I am conflicted yet I take the outburst and use it to ask people questions.
John
hi havoc with all respect brother ,,the bible does tell us to test the spirits ,,,if you want call it judgment .then Jesus did say judge with righteous judgment
when some one speaks a word in the name of god we are to judge and discern weather it is a word strait from him or
not many things come into play when it comes to this but to just except ever word that comes out a persons mouth as very dangerous on many accounts
brother it wold be only an opinion that an immature Christian would not say anything ,,,,,I spoke much in my zeal about god to different people ,,,,but it would be wrong to say god spirit led me to speak every one of those times ,we need to even judge our selves ,,,
not every one is even gifted with prophecy either, nor a word of wisdom not a word of prophecy ,and not all of us use our gifts properly
it worth noting that biblically ., god also normally works through one whom he has anointed for an office as an apostle ,evangelist ,or prophet ,, which are his gifts to men according to the letter to the ephes when we are speaking about proclaiming a message strait from the heart of god to unbelievers ,,,,,,so what im saying is I don't feel at all that this is what we are hearing in this utube clip for different reasons in which the clip reveals
Jeremiah and Ezekiel were prophets and held the god ordained office
the scripture actually believe it or not tells the Christian to allays be ready to give and answer to any for the reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear which is different from proclaiming the truth as a prophet or evangelist wile exercising the gifts and calling of god through the office which god all one into
god even actually said to wives to live a blameless and a god fearing life and in doing so even with a single word god will and can uses that consecrated life to convert her unbelieving husband ,,that even seems like a we could say a striking contrast to the ordained way god uses to save sinners ,,never the lest that is also a command from the heart of god to his precious daughters who are married
much blessings to you brother
From Apollus
This woman obviously counted the cost and spoke and I personally think it would be a mistake to focus on her rather than on what she said. If what she said is true, then men should rather consider the seriousness of God not being mocked. Or, they can laugh in the smugness of their unbelief which only adds to their judgement in that case..........bro Frank
Amen, Apollus.
Testing the spirits has nothing to do with the vessel or the delivery. Balaam's ass was not a choice vessel but God used the unsuspecting donkey. He can even make the "rocks cry out". God is not impressed with elocution or appearance, especially if the truth is sacrificed in the delivery.
This woman is much more than Balaam's ass presumably possessing the spirit of God and burdened and zealous for the truth.
I think it was remarkable that she stood up and let out a battle cry raising the banner of Jesus Christ. The principalities and powers were dumbfounded.
Her flesh may have been uncomfortable, but she over-rode it and delivered the message on her heart.
Who knows, God may have first called a brother to deliver that message.
I concur with Apollus in that we must evaluate the message rather than the messenger. Was the message given by this woman credible? Could we say it was Biblical? Was she speaking Biblical truth when she delivered her message in the floor if the US House of Representatives.
I belueve Apollus broke out it down into 3 points. And the conclusion is she was speaking a Biblical message. Probably the first time a message like that was ever spoken in those chambers.
But as is typical we will debate was she a prophet? Was she annointed? Let me ask. Was the donkey that spoke to Balaam annointed or a prophet. It is the message that must be tested.
The timing of the message is very significant. Right on the heels of raising the debt limit. One must wonder if Gid us saying He will not be mocked by America shaking its fist and saying look what we can do.
One other thing I will add. Tbis message was given by a lowly stenograoher. A woman. Where were the supposed godly nen? One must wonder?
Bearmaster.
Interesting that Just-in and I were posting on the sane theme. I say amen to his post.
Bearmaster.
Confirmation of the Spirit, Bear and Frank!
Diane Reidy said: "For the past 2 1/2 weeks the Holy Spirit has been waking me up in the middle of the night and preparing me (through my reluctance and doubt) to deliver a message in the House Chamber,” she told Fox News’ Chad Pergram in a statement. "That is what I did last night.”
"Reidy was sent for a mental evaluation after being questioned by U.S. Capitol Police. It was not immediately clear if criminal charges would be filed."
We are to intercede for her and the message that she spoke.
It reminds me of "mene, mene, tekel, upharsin".
The writing has been on the wall for a long time and God delivered a message of judgment to the whole world (Babylon and the Church) through this sister.
Amen Just-in we need to intercede for her and pray her message will be heard. The fact she gave this message to the US House of Representatives is very significant and should not be ignored. Though I fear many, including Christians, will dismiss her messages as that if a raving lunatic.
Bearmaster
Yes, Bear. Marginalized and ignored, even in this thread.
"Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead” (Acts: 17: 30-31).
You Must Suffer - John Piper
definity pray for fruit and ask for fruit from what she said if you think god is leading you
I don't think it was the will of god for her to stand up and say those few words that we herd about the free masons and serving two master yelling don't touch me saying praise God ,,God cant be mocked ,,,this sort of thing is too unclear of a message to penetrate the ungodly heart ,,tho I agree with her and understood what she means ,,,,every single acts of the apostle type preaching that is recorded for us by luke , give us a better example of what a spirit filled message might sound like ,, what we herd doesn't match up with the clear propagation of the command to repent toward god repent from sin and faith in Jesus
don't get me wrong brother and sisters ,im only saying this because deadn ask the question and I though it might be fitting to answer it and give an explanation on why I said what I said
but in saying that ,,god can still uses those words to reach people like some ones said God used a dumb donkey to restrains the madness of a prophet ,, I remember someone here say that ,,,proud papa ,,it was I think ,,that god used jehovawitness to reach him and led him ,,,even benni hinn can be used by god to deliver some truth ,,if he can do that he can surely uses a a young zealous Christian sister ,,,,,but that was not what I was denying it was weather it was a God sanctioned call to repentance towards the government ,,,,,,in other words was god fulfilling a plan of his through this woman or did she stand up in a zealous passionate out burst thinking this is what god wants me to say
i remember watch I sermon at the pray breakfast at a naruguation last year ,by a Jewish Christian ,,I cant remeber what it was called ,,does any one know ,,,the harbiginger I think it was ,,I very power full call to repentance to the Christian and the government worth watching ill try to find the link some here have already seen it as the link was posted
I know paul washer is not highly respected here so I probable should not uses him as an example ,, I remember him saying that many times he preached from a zeal with out knowledge ,,,that is only what im saying ,,not that this sister is a loopy street preacher or jehovawitness type ,,,but even in saying that iv seen some shocking street preachers speak biblical truth about god hell heaven ect,,,,,,so when it comes to discernment ,,it not just about have they spoke biblical truth ,,because the devil knows enough bible to put most of nus to sham ,,,and we all know you cross sll t and dot every eye and have head full of correct doctrine and know how to speak bible and be as lost polar bear in the Sahara desert
I think discernment encompasses a variety of things if we sift through our minds and heart to understand why it is we believe something or not ,though often we will discern things with out being conscience of how we do so
body language also plays a big role many times ,and does tone, mannerism and countenance ,,,,,so I think deadn has asked a simple question that can be clearly explained with just a yes or a know ,, or a ,I herd someone say biblical things ,,,,our spirit dissects the things in question ,,,,no one knows man except the spirit of a man ,even so know one knows the things of god except the spirit of god these 2 biblical principals are at work in harmony when we discern exactly what is going on
actually you don't hear much about discernment and how does it work ,, it will take much faith full prayer to go beyond what we speaking about here
blessings to all
The other part of the equation is that we don't know how God may have been dealing with just one man or woman in that room and even though the stenographer just spoke a few words, it may have been just enough for someone in that room who has been resisting the Lord's voice.
God is able, even in the House of Representatives to speak through one of His servants.
Look at all the testimonies in this thread regarding what she said and how it spoke to them.
Sometimes it just takes a specific action and a few words to wake people out of their slumber, because the biggest work has already been taking place behind the scenes in their heart.
When God is at work preparing someone's heart, the words "God is not mocked" may be what God has been telling that particular person who was in the room.
And the other phrase, "You cannot serve two Masters", may be something God has been telling one or many persons in that room.
Those two phrases are the word of God and powerful when mixed with the work of the Spirit and the voice of the Spirit.
If you think about it, she spoke two very important pieces of truth. Let the Spirit of God take those spoken words and do the rest and let the Church pray that God expands their meanings in the ears of the hearers.
Despise not prophesyings. I Thess 5:20
Who would you ask about the true nature of freemasonry? I would ask an ex-Mason:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=2459
does sell a DVD product, however for me it's enough to read the content synopsis,
that's all I really need to know to understand what and who the woman was addressing:
"During the past 16 years, one of the most often asked questions by concerned mothers and wives is this: 'My son / husband wants to join Freemasonry just for the business contacts. There really is no spiritual danger in the first three degrees, right?'
Former Mason, Bill Schnoebelen, answers this wrenching, heartfelt question very powerfully. Once viewing this video, you will never again believe that your loved one can safely pass through the first degree of Freemasonry!
Bill demonstrates that Freemasonry is Satanic from the First Blue Lodge Degree right up through the 33rd Degree. The first degree of Masonry is taken directly from the first degree of Satanism, where the initiate bows his knee to Baal and Lucifer and MARRIES Baal! The first initiation degree is a spiritual marriage to the god Baal.
When your loved one completes the first degree there is a very high chance he will be demonically possessed or at least demonically afflicted. But, to make matters much worse, your loved one will bring these newly found demonic 'friends' right in the front door of your home, where he will begin to afflict all relationships within the home -- Spousal, siblings, father-children, spiritual. Every meaningful, cherished relationship will abruptly come under severe and continuous attack. Suddenly, there will be no peace in relationships and in your home.
But, there is more spiritual horror! When the new Mason begins a memorization program called 'Posting', his mind begins to change, as his mental programming is quietly and subtly reprogrammed through a mental virus very similar to a computer virus. Suddenly, he is not the same person. His relationships begin to change and he will grow spiritually colder.
Bill then Biblically guides you through the spiritual steps necessary for a person who is already caught by Masonry's trap to be free of the spirit of Masonry and full of the Holy Spirit.
Finally, Bill shows how you can be set free from any spiritual bondage if Freemasonry is in your family background, father, grandfather, mother or grandmother. Spiritual deliverance is thoroughly discussed."
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I don't know this man, however have read a lot about the subject years ago when it sparked my curiosity. It's interesting in that regard that spiritual deception is such a powerful weapon that most people cannot identify any of these things mentioned - even if visible in plain sight in their own lifes. It's not an easy step to wake up to the reality that most of the world is not actually atheistic, they are taken over by satanism - even under the disguise of [false] Christianity.
The Germans under Hitler also lived in denial, many had doubts but calmed their consciences with "it just cannot be true". And they didn't have the internet where you can research and find things like this: "President George W. Bush declared in his Second Inaugural Address of January 20, 2005, 'When our Founders declared a new order of the ages ... they were acting on an ancient hope that is meant to be fulfilled.'
He also wasn't talking about the "mystery of the ages" he clearly meant the "new order of the ages" which is "one world under lucifer" - and that's what drives politics before and ever since. Internationally, however the driving motor is the US playing the global dominance show (for as long as the Chinese still accept US currency as money).
yea Justin ,I wrote in my last post about that, about god reaching some through what she said ,,I wasn't denying that ,,lets hope for that at the least ,, I definitely don't despise any of the gifts of the spirit nor the out working of them
I was only answering deadn question ,,was she a modern day john the baptise ,,,no she is not ,and the message spoke to that end ,,is she a zealous Christian ,,,I think so ,,god bless her
god didn't just call any old covenant believer to be anointed as john the baptise and to speak to the nation he had a calling and an office and an anointing and the words to go with that my friend was the context of deadns question ,,and I tried to answer in that context with a called out prophet as the frame work for the answer ,,that all
blessings
yea Justin ,I wrote in my last post about that, about god reaching some through what she said ,,I wasn't denying that ,,lets hope for that at the least ,, I definitely don't despise any of the gifts of the spirit nor the out working of them
I was only answering deadn question ,,was she a modern day john the baptise ,,,no she is not ,and the message spoke to that end ,,is she a zealous Christian ,,,I think so ,,god bless her
god didn't just call any old covenant believer to be anointed as john the baptise and to speak to the nation he had a calling and an office and an anointing and the words to go with that my friend was the context of deadns question ,,and I tried to answer in that context with a called out prophet as the frame work for the answer ,,that all
blessings
Brother brothagary,
I believe that I am being led by the Spirit of God to leave for a season. But before doing so, wanted to partake of this discussion.
///brother it wold be only an opinion that an immature Christian would not say anything ,,,,,I spoke much in my zeal about god to different people ,,,,but it would be wrong to say god spirit led me to speak every one of those times ,we need to even judge our selves ,,,///
Now, do you understand it is not for lack of discernment but fear this wretched fear of the hope that lies within, that to no aveil has now, ceased to remain. However, God is still on the throne and rightfully so as it should be --
There is no partialitity but that of a witness in Spirit, but don't let the enemy know this or he will run with all kinds of delusions.
The body of Christ consist of many denominations each in there own way seeking a fuller understanding of what they believe, to be true or false. Jacob knew this, David knew this, Jesus knew this and yes even Nebuchadnezzar.
I was able to download the video, and to my understanding and interpretation there was nothing wrong. But, a mere passion and zealousness in her part. Where sin abounds, grace does much more abound, if this be the case.
Then again, I could be wrong not everyone is able to be on the Dean's list.... I should have remained in Honors.
When I first listened to this audio file I had a rather strange reaction to it, at least I thought it was strange for me. As I listened I felt the presence of the Lord and then I began crying. Even though it was a very short audio I began crying. I kept thinking of what she said, "God will not be mocked and we can not serve to masters," and I was moved to tears for what lays ahead for those who continue on in their rebellion and refuse to repent. I don't know why but that was my reaction to it. I am not an emotional person, I actually hardly ever cry and yet this made me cry.
God bless
maryjane
Indeed sister MJ, I found the jist of what she said very pro-found and extremely apt for the audience and for the times in which we live..........bro Frank
It is the "message" and not the "messenger".
Here is a very short message by someone:
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Some thought he was crazy and definitely did not like his message. We don't stone today, but the Congressional stenographer was forcefully removed from that body.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
I wonder who was affected by Stephen's short message?
Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Undoubtedly, Saul was.
And I wonder who in that room will be affected by the Stenographer's short message (besides some here in SI who have already testified).
hi just in like I said I hope god uses what she said ,I think I said that three times now
brother that message from Stephen was one of the longest preaching messages in the new testament , you took the last verse from that message and just call it a short messaqge ,,that not literally true brother
and brother lol im not arguing with you either , I just noticed you said saul was was undoubtedly effected by Stephens preaching ,,,that friend actually is not what the bible says or it is not taught any where in the scripture ,,so it is actually very doubtful that he was effected ,,,,but on the contrary it says he consented to Stephens stoning,,, friend you made another statement that is not realy true ,,but only speculation at best about a few verses
you cant really with an honest mind compare stephens sermon with the one in question here ,,Stephen messages was extremely clear and extremely long,,, I hope some one does get effected by it though
have you watched the link I posted in the sermon and articals sections ,,,,tell me what think
I actual just watched another sermon from jonathan cahn that as additional prophetic information related to that address ,very moving
blessings to you
Lk.21:15
"For I will give you a mouth of wisdom,which all your adversaries shall not be able to [gainsay or resist] ..[contradict nor withstand]. V16,..And. Ye shall be betrayed both by parents,and brethren,and kinsfolk,and friends;
and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
V17,And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
* this lady proclaimed the Name of The Lord !
...when she said," God is not mocked"...(The inspired Word of God)
(Gal.6:7,"Be not deceived,God is not mocked,for whatever a man Soweto,that shall he also reap."
And also,"You cannot serve two masters,"(that it is God who sets up
governments,and He wants it be done by Godly principals.but man as a whole, has decided to do it their way
We know that the WHOLE Word of God ,everything that He stands for,is His Name.
We know that these people have been throwing His Name into the street.
I see her as proclaiming His Name,and thank God for the shocker.
I pray The Lord will strengthen her as she goes through what she must go through,and also give her much joy.
And that The Lord will have His will and Way in all of this.
All for Him,
elizabeth
My opinion in regard to this matter is that this woman was moved by the Holy Spirit and acted as His anointed vessel. Is what she said absolutely true? Yes. God will not be mocked and the United States of America and its government will not be exempt from being held accountable. If we are children of the King Jesus Christ our spirits will bear witness to that fact alone. The woman pronounced judgement. Was our government founded by Masons? Yes. George Washington, as heroic as we may believe him to be was a mason and laid the cornerstone of the capitol building in a masonic ritual. I have personally interviewed former police officers who have told me that 40% of the personnel they worked with while police officers were active masons. And, my interviewee added to that shocking statement, "If you were not a mason you would be relegated to the bottom of the list as far as preferential treatment and entitlement." In regard to national control who would be better positioned than a secretive group of people who are on the verge of controlling all local police forces and who have taken vows to never prosecute one another. Notwithstanding their substitute for the bible: "Morals and Dogma" written by Albert Pike which proclaims Lucifer as their god. Their sacrilegious display of the bible on the altar in their temples is just that: Sacrilegious. Let us ask this simple question: If this was a nation which actually placed itself under the authority of God what would it look like? What will the nations look like and behave like when we are in the 1,000 year reign of our Lord Jesus Christ? So, had this nation been set up and founded directly as a result of pure direction from the Holy Spirit what might that have been? Do we see the product of that foundation manifest now? That begs the question: Have we accepted what happens now in America without questioning the decisions of authority because we have been deceived into believing that God is in control and has been from the very birth of this nation? The answer in my honest opinion is yes. Could the evils things that have happened in this country have occurred had we truly placed Jesus on the throne of our country and not some few wicked men. What I found most interesting in this woman's prophecy was this: When the people near her began talking "sweetly" to her she said, "Don't touch me." I expect this woman to be assaulted in the future with more sweetness in the form of lucrative offers of retirement packages and other perks in an attempt to entice her to denounce her proclamation and to deny that her words were inspired by God. They will perhaps tie it all to her being treated by their hand picked shrinks -- Who will be from the same spirit and nothing more than the false prophets that sought to harm Jeremiah. I pray God will give her the strength to say in the future again and again, "Don't touch me." I do not believe we have heard the last of this matter nor will it be the last warning this nation and this nation's government receives. Our King may even now be warning them and us privately and individually having already done so in our capitol's midst. "You can not serve two masters." Plain and simple. God has announced to this nation that we can not take up his name in vain. None can proclaim themselves to be a believer for the vanity of self interest without risk of being exposed. The members of the house who may desire to court the christian vote by feigning faith in our Lord may also soon be exposed. I believe we can expect more prophetic utterances nationally and globally. But, it will not come from those who proclaim themselves to be prophets; rather it will come from prophets whose ministry proves them to be prophets; however fleeting that moment may be.
Quote: "I have personally interviewed former police officers who have told me that 40% of the personnel they worked with while police officers were active masons. And, my interviewee added to that shocking statement, "If you were not a mason you would be relegated to the bottom of the list as far as preferential treatment and entitlement."
And in top business and politics I think this percentage doubles, while at the very top of it there is almost nobody that isn't one. I once read the complete bios list of American presidents in history, if I remember correctly a very small group of 2-3 or maybe 4 haven't been masons. And then only had to read a few selected pages of "Morals and Dogma" to realize what this means. Stomach upsetting.
It takes a while to absorb and wrap your mind around. Yesterday I was reminded of this verse:
Isaiah 47:12 Â Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
from thy youth = since the initial early years of the republic. Suddenly this fits like a glove. Now this one gets clearer as well:
Revelation 18:4 Â And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
It takes faith, not only to acknowledge the truth, also to follow the truth, no matter the cost.
http://www.examiner.com/article/profile-of-admitted-freemasons-presently-serving-u-s-congress
In several European countries, the position of Grand Master has often been held by members of royal families or the high nobility. In some Protestant northern European countries, the position was held by the King for a long time. In England and Wales, the current Grand Master is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent.
Many Masons have walked the halls of Congress or resided in governor's mansions. Congressmen Henry Clay, Nelson Aldrich, and William Jennings Bryan were members. More recently, Sens. Birch Bayh, Lloyd Bentsen, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, and Sam Ervin were Masons. So were the father and grandfather of Sen. John McCain. Former senators Bob Dole, Trent Lott, Conrad Burns, and Sam Nunn are Masons, as are Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Charles Rangel. Famous Masonic governors include DeWitt Clinton, Thomas Dewey, George Wallace, George Ryan, Ed Rendell, and David Paterson (pictured). Longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover also was a member.
I was surprised that Chuch Schumer was a mason. Makes sense, though. This is not exhaustive. Congress is riddled with Free Masons.
So what do we do? Until our Lord returns we desperately need godly men and women to lead us in this spiritual battle. And we do not need the televangelists who have themselves announced that they hold the offices of prophets. Let God himself do the announcing. Can we elect Diane Reidy as "Speaker of the House?"
Beige I doubt that this sister will have a job as a stenograoher waiting for her in the House. Though her being Speaker of the House is appealing:)
Our best course of action is to look to Jesus and cleave to Him until He returns.
Bearmaster.
I haven't read all the post in this thread..just maybe the first 18 or so...but if the only thing she said was that God is not mocked...and that's it... congress better listen, because if The Holy Spirit told her just that much and to deliver that to Congress, a line has been placed in the sand, a plumb line set and America has crossed that line and now it is time that the Lord will take action. What was probably happening to her as she was speaking the main message the Lord gave her, she was hearing some specific words for others there, but under the circumstances I am sure she was so amped up that she did not know or understand what to do with everything she was receiving and or discerning at the moment. The information was coming to her mind/heart at a very very rapid rate and in a manner I am sure she couldn't totally get a hold of in that moment. That's why some of it sounds dis-jointed and the subject seems to change. Regardless I believe it to be real and from the Lord.
reflecting on just-in, two good points here. Yes when you trace the roots of it back, you end up in Europe, especially in England and Wales. There is a higher position than Grand Master, actually there is a whole 'head organisation' above masonry. And the leading royals are positioned at the head of that head. They are the first row "under the power of the eye" in the dollar bill. That relationship was reflected on by the builders that rejected the corner stone, instead built some brick buildings with rich symbolics on geographical 'power line parallels' that created an invisible triangle between London, Rome and Washington. In that order, London is the head, Rome is spiritual support, Washington the world's action playground which spreads it to the rest of the globe.
It's not by 'chance' to find direct genetic relations between US presidents and European Royalty, it's all by design and nothing there happens by coincidence. You don't enter there by invitation, neither by public vote, only by bloodline. Unless you work in showbiz, then there are job openeings for the ones with declared and open dedication, recent example is 'Rihanna', she does'nt hide anymore whom she dearly worships.
Another inclusion to their system you would discover when you investigate televangelists. That would ask for a totally new thread because you actually need to see proof otherwise you would think I'm making it up. Some of the very popular US televangelists are deeply involved, you have to look it up, nothing but own research will convince you.
Masses blindly follow them in good faith what is nothing but "blue eyed blondness" or American ignorance. Years of public media exposure has created the inability to discern and understand the truth. I was "blond and blue eyed" too when I dicovered the TBN logo symbol to look so stunningly similar to the coat of arms flag of the prince of Wales and didn't make much of it. Until I found what connects them. Ask for discernment! And understand that 'evil' comes in very sophisticated and well cultured and friendly ways. They have no problem with going to church on Sundays and give well structured religious lectures. They do all the "right things" and it takes time to decipher that they just switch the person - the Jesus we know - with their own version.
One thing that Pike teaches the masons is the art of deception. They deceive the lower ranks internally on purpose, because they "don't deserve to understand it, just yet". And they deceive the public at large on purpose in playing the role of the "good Christian" to perfection. They actually believe they are right in doing so, the standard of ethics is very high, and most of them are not knowingly aware of any false doings, they just have their consicience seared to the point to believe we got it all wrong, we are the ones not enlighted enough to understand the order of things, and who God is. That took me a while to comprehend that my earlier concept of evil was totally cliche, in reality it appears as an "angel of light".
And to come back to Diane Reidy, one of her main points was that we cannot serve two masters. The problem is most do, and are not even aware of it. At what point the majority will qualify and include themselves in God's judgment. Ignorance does not provide a way of exemption,
neither does the believe the truth is hidden any longer, what the elite of the nation still believes in miss- judgment caused by a proud mind:
Isaiah 47:10 Â For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
as usual, Babylon lies......a "john the Baptist" given the nod and wink before hand by a white haired man, AND the supposed ON FLOOR "recording" was really taped at an elevator bank.
you are all being lied to, by the father of lies
watch:
Staged to smear Christians, perhaps?
So, they may be using this to set something up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XElk5MsakXc
Lesson learned: We should be suspicious about anything that comes over TV, Internet, because it can all be staged.
Thanks, Hezwelling.
An interesting interview of Mrs. Reidy's husband Dan Reidy was done by Rick Wiles of TruNews and was broadcast on Friday, October 18, 2013.
http://www.trunews.com
Try this link:
http://www.trunews.com/listen/
Friday October 18, 2013
Today’s Guest : Dan Reidy
"Topic : The guest on today’s edition of TRUNEWS is Dan Reidy. He is the husband of Diane Reidy, the House Stenographer that spoke a prophetic utterance on the floor of the U.S. House following the vote on the debt ceiling" (trunews).
Thank you soldout2him. It is very kind of you to clarify that.
Great truth shootout, 2 cut videos foxnews/c-span both with imcomplete or no sound against trunews.
Actually the 2 videos prove nothing, as we don't know what she actually said on stage based on these videos. All we know is that some of the recorded outburst happened when she got dragged away into an elevator.
That's just bad and incomplete reporting so far, they took the sound bite they had and used it for the first video, of which they don't got any actual sound recording yet. Or don't want to air. She still said what she said. Just the timing is totally unclear.
Of course she could also be a hypnotized victim and it was all staged, however listening to her husband I don't think so, yet. If it was, it falls under the category 'high ethic' of the masons, that are compelled to always tell us the facts of whatever they do. I don't know if you know, but there has to be someone responsible for the created chaos when the "truth" finally all comes out, and it ain't going to be the antichrist when he takes over, what these willing mason footh soldiers prepare for him right now. Remember the ten horns will hate the whore, the woman I talked about previously that completely sold out for the cause and that did all the ground work. (Rev says "for God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will").
So there has to the a record of all these events to prove final responsibility in court.
Wow, and Rick Wiles raises his voice and repents on air from his romantic notion he had about his country, he actually gets the message.
You have to look at the greater context of whats happening right now. In 90 days or so there will be another gov. shutdown, or a default. Everyone in biz knows its coming and already overdue. Is it about a currency reset? Maybe - Ist it about the start of a cashless society? Maybe - I was quite stunned to listen to this man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UBRDOdIVCI
he says it's all about the healthcare bill, which is not a heathcare bill at all. It's the last corner stone they want to implement before the currencies will be intentionally crashed. He doesn't say why. But it should be clear when you think about it.
When we understand all this, we also understand the outburst of a worker in congress that possibly heard a lot more about the actual content of the bill than we ever will through the public media. I put links to gov documents in the related tread further down, to end the guesswork what's actually inside. Reading that, the man in the youtube video makes more sense, it's not theory any longer, they really are working out their plan here.
Staged to smear Christians, perhaps?
that would seem to be the case, yes.
So, they may be using this to set something up?
beloved, the width and depth of the "something up" is truly wicked, its the spew of Babylon, and I refrain for posting it here, because this is NOT the venue for such.
the only reason , ONLY reason, I put that up is because Babylon is MOCKING the Lord, which implies NO FEAR of the LORD, and the Holy Recompense for that is judgement, our Lord is a "consuming Fire".
if what I write next, SEEMS to be boasting, i'm "boasting in the Lord"....I usually rise way before the sun, and build the foundation of my day upon the Rock of the Word, meaning anywhere from 2 to 5 hours in the Bible, and writing of the sacred and not the secular. God has given me that wonderful Luxury, to which I praise His Name, and am SO thankful for.
then, if I don't have PRESSING chores, I read EVERYTHING, and in the secular, as you know, there's what they call the "main stream media"....but for a time, we have the internet, and on the internet, there is the "alt-media", and my reading of the machinations of this, ...FALLS under the "shrewd as a snake" part of my daily walk.....where I am led, and its bad....things have turned very dark and wicked in America....and the world as well, but this nation as the preeminent "superpower" leads the pack, as the word "superpower" is the modern way of saying, the "spirit of Babylon"....led by the "whore of Babylon", who is one of many servants of satan. this terrible spirit, thru the centuries has migrated from this nation to that nation, and has now quite obviously taken haunt in the US, which in the sweep of history, is a very young, immature and arrogant nation, much like the Babylon of the 650-550 BC period.
sometimes I get HIT by a Godly sorrow so bad, in light of this horror and hissing, all I can DO is mourn and weep and wail....(I don't "wail"...but I sure "weep")....broken hearted....and its not only the whole homosexual thing, and though this 40 year long period of flinging babies "into the fires of the Hinnom Valley" is by itself ENOUGH to invoke the Lord's FURY....there is more, we worship the golden calf, we adore and worship violence and conquest, whether it manifest itself in "sport", but as a part of what is this very slick lie, "American Exceptionalism"......and i'm just grazing the surface.
which is why my heart yearns for one last Revival...some say it cant or wont happen, but then I turn to the Word, and read of the Josiah, last Godly king of Judah......and now when I read of that dear Godly prophet, Jeremiah, the Words God gave him, have even GREATER impact......I think of that dear man, how they hated him...the people, the priests (pastors) of the time...at least in the physical, he had dear Baruch....and God loved him, and God expressed that Love, by giving Jeremiah, the Book of Consolation, chapters 30-33, where within is contained the prophecy of the New Covenant.
what else can I say, as I feel that sorrow and grief come over me?....well, this I KNOW, Jesus loves me, for which i'm eternally thankful for.....as well as His Blood shed on the tree, sufficient to cleanse all sin.
by HezWelling on 2013/10/21 0:18:35
as usual, Babylon lies......a "john the Baptist" given the nod and wink before hand by a white haired man, AND the supposed ON FLOOR "recording" was really taped at an elevator bank.
you are all being lied to, by the father of lies
watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yfOhwF0DV8
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Greetings Neil
I watched the video you posted and it was interesting but I wonder if I may respectfully ask, what does it matter? The words still ring true, God will not be mocked and we can not serve two masters. Those two statements are what spoke to my heart. For me it never was about the person speaking or even the setting in which the words were spoken it was that for a time the national news sent out over the air waves a reminder to those who have ears, GOD will not be mocked and we can not serve two masters. GOD wants our whole heart not ones divided. My reaction was strange one for me as I said, I don't usually give into emotion and just cry like that, but the realization that hit me in that moment is time is short and there are many who are lost in rebellion and in the religious systems that need JESUS. It doesn't matter what happens in the here and now, but eternity matters and that is where I realize more and more my focus needs to be.
I just wanted to close by saying I appreciate your heart, your love for others always shows through and I know you too have a burden for the lost both in Israel as well as the world. Thank you for sharing.
God bless
maryjane
1st Thessalonians 5:19-21
Do not quench the spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast of that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.
Saints as I posted earlier we are to examine the message and not the messenger. We can debate in this forum from now until the Lord returns whather this woman was speaking a prophetic message. The question is were the words true? Does the message itself have an application to us? Is God speaking in this day and hour?
So again let us follow the command of Thessalonians and evaluate the message as was given in the HR. If it is true let us take heed to it for the hour is urgent.
Bearmaster
Dear saints:
I just realized something this morning as I was reading this post, and maybe everyone has already seen this and I am just slow, but when she said "you cannot serve to masters," it was taken out of the following context:
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth" (Mat. 6:24).
Since one of the biggest discussions in our country and the world is about money, debt, currency (i.e., gold standard or something else), etc. Many including myself have been worried about how we will pay the bills and put food on the table for our family. Both Christians and non-Christians are worried throughout the whole world. But the message is: "For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?" (Mat. 6: 25). "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you" (Mat: 6: 33). The message is so simple and many of us have heard it before, but God wants to write it on our hearts.
Christ is our life.
I believe that the scripture quoted above shows us that "these things that will be added to you" are the necessities in life such as food, water and clothing. Also, the most important wealth to gain in the Kingdom of God is spiritual wealth and bearing fruit for the Father. "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. "But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" (6: 19-21).
As Christians we are not to love the world and things in the world (John 17:16), for our citizenship is in heaven and we are to be a holy nation and a holy priesthood. We are to be the light and salt of the earth. We are to be holy as God is holy.
I know for myself the bible speaks of getting my house in order like in the days of Hezekiah when "Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz came to him, and said to him, "Thus says the LORD: Set your house in order, for you shall die, you shall not recover” (Is. 38:1).
So am I serving God or wealth? Do I love money and the world or do I love God?
"He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him" (John 14:21).
God is the judge of the motives and secrets of humans hearts, but we can still judge righteously by look unto our self first to see if we are in the faith and the Lord is the Lord and Master of our life. Then as the Holy Spirit gives utterance we can turn our brother and/or sister who has been caught in a trespass.
Lord have mercy on me! KM
you KNOW I've always appreciated YOUR HEART as well....always, you've always been my sister.......and I know your read on things is clear, so my love for you is steadfast, in the Holy Spirit.
what rang EVERY warning bell in me is that the whole set-up was NOT the truth...I "bought" the first press accounts, meaning, I thought the chamber audio picked up what she was saying....I saw the original...no audio, then heard what she said, and I thought, "ok, this "sister" is overburdened with a Call from the Lord, and HAS to speak out"....so SPEAK!! amen.
BUT.....seeing this video, my spirit asks, "why manufacture?".....why not show the elevator bank encounter?.....why marry an audio with a video image?
remember this, satan knows Scripture as well....Luke's Gospel account?....the 40 days in the desert?.....so I feel, that this is a Babylonian trick to deceive....to work the emotions....you cried, and you cried because you are an INNOCENT!!! your spirit is clean, so clean that EVEN the thought of using the Word of God to deceive, and paint followers of Jesus as "psychotics" who come unglued in the halls of power....is just the game these truly wicked servants of the whore of Babylon are cooking up....such servant being the silver haired man, giving her the "go".
IF its the Call, the LORD gives the Call, not some hell bound white haired fleshling.
oh MJ, i'm just grieving.....truth has fled the land.
Greetings Neil
Thank you for your response. I see and understand your heart better now. These are dark times we live in you are so right about that. We need to be on our knees before JESUS and place all our faith and trust in HIM.
I find myself turning the news off more and more because of the deception there is going on. I find there is a hopelessness that comes over me if I spend to much time reading the news so I have to break away and seek HIM. I am seeing the enemy wants me to focus on the things of this world but my eyes belong to my beloved and in HIM I always find strength and trust to stand and move forward.
God bless you brother
maryjane
Hi Deadn and Mary Jane,
I listened to it as the video wasnt too clear.Its a bit short to make any conclusions.This is not a John the Baptist type thing as you put it for a couple of reasons
1.we(the church and the world) associate the term "a voice crying in the wilderness"as someone with truth not been heard but the biblical view is different all Judea and the surrounds went out to hear John.He was heard by all and recognized as been from God by many.A "VOICE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS"represents total success not failure
2.He could not be touched until his ministry was over where this courageous woman was taken away
Yours Staff
I found the event altogether interesting. But at the end of the day, does it really matter if this was of God or not? Why do we feel the need to "discern" every little iota of speech? Are we really that bored with nothing better to do? At the end of the day, did it really matter to any of us?
Brother many who speak the truth of Christ are not heard. Yet God comoells them to speak.
Bearmaster.
Jimmy,
Brother are you not aware of what is going on? Darkness is upon the land and the church is asleep. Sinners are going to hell and judgement is upon the nation and the church. Abortion and homosexuality run rampant. The nation is on the verge of an economic collapse. And you ask does it matter?
Brother let me ask did it matter to Art Katz, Denny Kenniston, or Davidd Wilkerson. If you can answer that then you have the answer to your question.
Bearmaster.
Quote: Dianne Reidy says the Holy Spirit made her to do it.
This statement reminds me of a time when I was working with some Nigerians and had left some tools out while I went to get a cool drink. When I returned the tools were missing. On asking the Nigerians where the tools were they replied that God had took them. At that I had a good laugh which surprised them, then I pressed in a bit more to find out the truth, saying that I knew God and he didn't inform me that he had a requirement for my tools.
After some discussion the group went and got the tools, and made a man confess to the crime. When talking with man he said with a straight face said "God made him to it".
And if the Holy Spirit had made her do it? Brother I do not see the point of your story.
Bearmaster.
Bear writes.........
"Brother are you not aware of what is going on? Darkness is upon the land and the church is asleep. Sinners are going to hell and judgement is upon the nation and the church. Abortion and homosexuality run rampant. The nation is on the verge of an economic collapse. And you ask does it matter?
Brother let me ask did it matter to Art Katz, Denny Kenniston, or Davidd Wilkerson. If you can answer that then you have the answer to your question."
Amen bro. The thing is, these men and others, God put a burning message in their bones. Many can see the gross darkness, but many more cannot. Those who cannot see nor have this burning in their bones simply cannot understand. Now there is such a thing as willful ignorance which is a whole other matter...........bro Frank
What she said was interesting because of the timing. It's news worthy for that reason alone. Whether or not the Lord told her to say it or not.. meh... probably not. It strikes me as rather unintelligible. It reminds me a bit of the nice old backwards church lady who randomly stands up in the middle of church to say what she feels on her heart.
I find the commentary surrounding it more telling than anything.
KM,
I really appreciated what you have just wrote.
Thank you also for reminding us all, of our Lord' promise,...the seeking
Of the kingdom of God,and His righteousness,He will supply our needs until He allows us to die..He is our ONLY HOPE,and Whom we are to
put all of our trust in.
* This is the Key !
He must increase,we must decrease,
elizabeth
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Hi Bearmaster,
I know that many speak For Christ and are not heard but these are not the "voice in the wilderness" as prescribed by the bible.John the Baptist was a 100% successful.Just because you speak the truth and are not heard doesnt make you a voice in the wilderness,
Staff
Quote: And if the Holy Spirit had made her do it? Brother I do not see the point of your story.
Has God ever "made you" do anything?
The Holy Spirit will lead you - but he will never violate your will and make you do anything.
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