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Obama Calls on Nation to Recommit to Abortion

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AbideinHim

Obama Calls on Nation to Recommit to Abortion
Posted on January 23, 2014


Obama is encouraging murder.
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President Obama reflected on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade by encouraging Americans to recommit to the "guiding principles” of the 1973 Supreme Court decision.

According to Obama:

"Every woman should be able to make her own choices about her body and her health. We reaffirm our steadfast commitment to protecting a woman’s access to safe, affordable health care and her constitutional right to privacy, including the right to reproductive freedom. And we resolve to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and continue to build safe and healthy communities for all our children. Because this is a country where everyone deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfill their dreams.”

Hundreds of thousands joined the March for Life Wednesday to protest just such a recommitment to abortion. In fact, the majority of Americans support abortion restrictions.


Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2014/01/obama-calls-nation-recommit-abortion/#iCtr7BIviqjL2i60.99

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sermonindex

I thought this was a very succinct and perceptive observation by Michelle Bachmann regarding the President of the United States.

Because he did not enforce the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and now unilaterally adjusts the Obamacare law as it unfolds, President Barack Obama is sending a signal to liberal federal judges to mirror him and, as a result, the president's long-term legacy will be "the establishment of lawlessness in the United States," said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.).
Bachmann also compared Obama's actions to those of former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi -- "whatever he said was law."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/bachmann-obama-s-legacy-establishment-lawlessness-united-states

This should concern all Christians and spur them to pray for "Kings and all men", because the end result of lawlessness is not a quiet and peaceable life for the church.

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 1 Tim 2:1-3

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ginnyrose

Make no mistake, whatever popular culture is, it will impact the church unless it will say 'NO!" to prevailing philosophies that drive it.

DOMA has been dismissed as irrelevant, marriage between gays is the new 'norm' but will last only as long it takes to destroy the practice of marriage between one man and one woman then they will want to put away the idea of marriage of all kinds - live like cattle and hogs - breed with whatever happens to be in heat at the time!

The biggest weakness of the pro-life movement is their failure to aggressively address the moral issues of sexual purity. The thrust is to save ALL babies - ok, but then you end up with a lot of single moms with no regret for their sin. To save babies and at the same time teach these girls how they need to repent when they have a cute little baby in their arms is extremely difficult - they will tell you quickly God has blessed them with a child.

Now go figure how one should deal with this issue. These moral issues bedevil the church and one cannot blame the feds for it.

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I do find it extremely odd that Obama, who is of mixed race but considers himself black, would call on a renewed effort to legitimize abortion.

Stats say blacks have more abortions percentage wise then whites. Experts are also saying blacks are not reproducing enough people to sustain their race in the USA. AND that close to 50% of black males will have been arrested by the time they are 23 YO! Social experts are very concerned about the future of blacks as a race in the USA. Does Obama not know?

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"And we resolve to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and continue to build safe and healthy communities for all our children." - Barak Obama

What a horribly misguided and illogical statement; support child health and build safe and healthy communities for ALL our CHILDREN??? How does one go about claiming to support child health and help build a safe and healthy community for them if you just kill them while they are still in their mother's womb? More accurate would be that they don't want women to have to face the consequences of their actions so instead will sacrifice the children to molech for the sake of convenience...sad duplicitous language, committing bold-faced murder under the pretense of benevolence and righteousness...

The violence of the wicked will sweep them away,
because they refuse to do what is just.
Proverbs 21:7

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KPYee

Obama asked that for the nation to recommit to abortion .I want to ask all Christians to commit themselves to pray on a daily basis for the Lord to remove him and those of his ilk who who support murders of the innocent. May the Lord look down on what they have done and punish them for their hideous sins

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rainydaygirl

by KPYee on 2014/1/27 20:03:58

Obama asked that for the nation to recommit to abortion .I want to ask all Christians to commit themselves to pray on a daily basis for the Lord to remove him and those of his ilk who who support murders of the innocent. May the Lord look down on what they have done and punish them for their hideous sins

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KPYee i have been thinking on what you wrote here and i can not support it. i hate abortion too but we are told to pray for our leaders and that is what we need to be doing. the last thing you wrote in your post really troubles me, how can any christian ask the Lord to punish another for their sins? Weren't you and i both sinners at one time? would you want the Lord to look down on you and punish you for your sins? i know i don't want that. i can not join you in praying for God to punish another for their sins it would make me a hypocrite. instead i will pray that those who are in control will see their sin, see their need for Christ in their life, repent of their sins, turn from them and follow the Lord. We are all sinners and all need Christ no matter what the sin is.

i understand your grief for the the unborn but even someone who gets an abortion, performs an abortion, or supports abortion can repent, turn to Jesus and be forgiven if they cry out to Him.

rdg

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KPYee

The Bible is full of imprecatory prayers . David through inspiration prayed many times for his enemies to be punished and even destroyed .So did many other prophets like Jeremiah. Sinners who would not be corrected should be punished and even removed. Tolerance for sins is a curse to the earth . Sins when surpassed beyond certain threshold will cause the earth to vomit us out . The Canaanites were removed for that reason . So was Israel and later Judah . Yes , I would want God to punish me for any sins I refuse to repent . I consider that a blessing . "whom the Lord loves he chastises" His prompt intervening punishment will keep me from the fires of hell . Sin is a curse . Unless repented off it will devastate mankind . We must plead with the Lord either to lead a sinner to repentance or remove him. A sinner who would not repent should be removed by the Lord

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rainydaygirl

kypee when i said i would not want God to punish me i was speaking with eternity in mind not as chastisement to bring me back to Him. as a sinner i was lost for a very long time but am thankful to those who prayed for me until God did His work in my life and opened my eyes and heart to Him. i am thankful to Him for saving me and for those He had praying for me to repent and see my need for Jesus.

i will pray and plead with God to open the eyes of the lost to help them see their need for Jesus and leave the rest to Him. God put the president in the position He is in now and we are instructed to pray for our leaders so that is what i will do. i pray those in control and in positions of power see their sin, see their need for Jesus and repent.

rdg

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KPYee

Pray if they would not repent for them to be removed . Many sinners are too deep in their sins . They have lost all capacity to do good . They are reprobate silver as Jeremiah described Judah to be . " Surely these sins will not be purged from you until you die " Such sinners should be removed by the Lord . Not by us . Its a blessing to the world when such people are removed . It will "bring an end to transgression". Although I hope I am wrong I do believe many leaders at national level are beyond the pale of salvation . Corruption has gone too deep ..Like the pharisees whom Jesus accused of sinning against the Holy Spirit they cant be saved

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rainydaygirl

by KPYee on 2014/1/28 16:10:47

Pray if they would not repent for them to be removed . Many sinners are too deep in their sins . They have lost all capacity to do good . They are reprobate silver as Jeremiah described Judah to be . " Surely these sins will not be purged from you until you die " Such sinners should be removed by the Lord . Not by us . Its a blessing to the world when such people are removed . It will "bring an end to transgression". Although I hope I am wrong I do believe many leaders at national level are beyond the pale of salvation . Corruption has gone too deep ..Like the pharisees whom Jesus accused of sinning against the Holy Spirit they cant be saved

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Kpyee i won't judge another person like that. i have no idea what goes on in the hearts of other men and women so i will just pray that the Lord open their eyes to see their need and repent the way He did for me. its not for me to judge if someone is "beyond the pale of salvation" and i won't go there. as long as the Lord gives me leading i will pray that our leaders be saved and to see their need for Jesus.

rdg

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Sidewalk

Paul did not teach on this, but he does acknowledge the authority to turn a man over to Satan that he should learn not to continue in sin. He did this with a longer range goal of saving this person's soul, but he was not allowing sin to go unconfronted. He knew that sin allowed to grow would result in the destruction of the sinner and those under that person's influence. (1Cor. 5:5)

Some are in very deep wickedness with consciences seared and with no heart at all for God. Because of this, they pose a deadly threat to people who either serve God now, or potentially will. I see no reason not to pray for their conversion or their destruction all at the same time. The North Korean tyrant comes to mind...

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KPYee

In Ezekiel and Jeremiah God said to the prophets not to pray for the people of Israel anymore . He said even if Daniel , Noah , Samuel and Elisha interceded for them it would be all vain . He has decided to destroy them. Their sins were too deep and cant be purged until Jerusalem is destroyed and recalcitrant sinners slain . Jeremiah and Ezekiel likened their corruption to be so be entrenched that even the fires of furnace cant purge the dross off. So Jeremiah called it reprobate silver. John said in 1 John 5 not to pray for a brother who has sinned a sin unto death. Sin is bondage. Persist long enough in it will become intractable. Even God himself cant help such sinners , Instead he will give up on them . He sends seducing spirits to lead them into deeper sins that they may be destroyed..

Although I do always hope that God will lead a sinner to repentance we must recognise that this isnt always possible. Sinners have the choice to reject and rebuff his offers of grace which when exercised will entrench them more deeply in sins ultimately leading into a state of complete depravity Like Sodom and Gomorrah they then become good only as fodder for total destruction . I fear this is true of many like Obama and many national leaders at judiciary , executive and legislative levels ..For this reason I think its necessary to pray for the Almighty to remove them ..Save this country and the world .

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sermonindex

Bro you need to look at Luke 9:54-56

When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume then?". But He turned and rebuked then, and said "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of, for the Son of man did not cone to destroy nen's lives, but to Dave them."

Seems to me Jesus was more interested in saving lives then smoking them.

Bearmaster.

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Sidewalk

At different times and scenarios in the scripture, men of God spoke words of power that brought swift destruction on sinners. Elijah took out the prophets of Baal, Peter took out Ananias and Sapphira, Jesus even took out a fig tree that He saw out of order! And David! The psalms are full of curses on his enemies!

We always love the stories of wicked men and women coming to repentance, and it is sad when they don't. But warfare is warfare, and we are in it. We should pray for peace and righteousness to reign, and sometimes that might mean taking out those who are set against it.

Prayer is tapping into the power of God, praying in the Name of Jesus means praying within the character of Jesus, and in my opinion blasting away at evil is within that frame.

Blaine makes a good point about the "sons of thunder." Just as justice and mercy pull against each other, so also do peace and wrath. Jesus read the spirits of the thunder boys, and saw that their ardor was misplaced. They wanted to use violent power first, then the gentleness... later...maybe... Jesus knew that when men get accustomed to violent force, they do not lay it down to use gentleness later. He rightly discerned their thirst for violence, and had to rebuke it.

But He kept them, and won them over to His Spirit!

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KPYee

Brother

You misunderstood me. When I asked for sinners to be removed by God I was referring to incorrigible sinners. Sinners who are so corrupted by sins they can no longer be purged. The people in that Samaritan village didnt fall under that category . That was proven when Jesus visited Samaria and was warmly received there.

In Matt 23 when Jesus was remonstrating the hypocritical Jewish leaders he was so incensed by depth of evils in those people he said "fill ye up then the measure of your fathers .. How can you escape the damnation of hell ?" He was telling them to sin more so they can be destroyed....

Once a sinner reaches a stage where repentance is no longer possible God will destroy that sinner. He will lead that sinner to sin so that he may be damned. And its good for this world that he does that. Can you imagine if Hitler and Stalin live forever on earth ?? The earth will become unlivable. So when we ask that God removes the irredeemable sinners we are asking God to save this world.Save the innocents of this world. Dont allow it to become a living hell ...The earth and all of God's creation will conspire to vomit us out if curse of sins are indulged in and not removed. I suspect we are already seeing that right now

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sermonindex

If Hitler did live, he couldn't do very much.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hitler%20alive&sm=3

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rainydaygirl

by Kpyee "You misunderstood me. When I asked for sinners to be removed by God I was referring to incorrigible sinners. Sinners who are so corrupted by sins they can no longer be purged."

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how do you decide if someone is so corrupted by sin they can no longer be "purged"? isn't that a determination to be made by God alone? we are told to pray for the lost and to love our enemies, how can you pray for someones demise and still claim to love them?

rdg

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KPYee

I dont decide whether one should be terminated bodily .
I leave that to God . My prayers for hardened sinners are always loaded with pleas for God to save them. For God to pour His light into their hearts to enable a repentance. Nevertheless in recognition of obstinacy of sinful nature I will always end with a plea to God to remove them if they will not repent.

2) When I asked for sinners in high positions to be removed I wasnt strictly referring to removal by death . I had in mind of their removal by loss of office. as well Hardened sinners without high official positions would be more limited in capacity to do harm.

3) I know the thralldom of sins and difficulties in breaking from its captivity . I dealt with my own personal sins. I know how difficult it was to repent .I like to say to everyone if you think repentance is easy you havent repented at all ..
In Jeremiah God said "Can an Ethiopian change its skin or leopard its spot ? then may ye also do good who are accustomed to do evil" And then in Romans 7 Paul's famous wails over bondage of sins.. Sins once indulged in can very quickly become impossible to break. Look at the pedophile cases involving the priests and adulteries among the God fearing pastors. If they are entrapped in sins what are the chances for godless people in high offices with all the trappings and seductions of wealth and power become convicted of their sins ? Isaiah said to the people "Surely these sins will not be purged from you until you die"

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rainydaygirl

KPYee

when i was a little girl, i had an older brother who sexual abused me. he later went on to be a womanizer, alcoholic, and drug abuser. i do not keep in touch with him very often after all these years but i do pray for him to see his need for Jesus, to repent, and to turn from his sins. he is now well into his fifties and still i see no sign of change but i continue to pray and will do so as long as he lives. i say all this because over the years i have never felt led by God to pray for him to remove my brother because he has not repented. i pray for him to see his need for Jesus. its not for me to decided that he has had enough time and i never know what might happen even in those last few moments of his life that he might repent and cry out to God so i pray and leave the rest to God.

i have heard others share their testimonies of loved ones who were hard of heart and in sinful rebellion for most of their lives only to break and receive Jesus after years of faithful prayer by others. it seems to me that if i begin praying for God to "remove" someone then i am judging them to be beyond Jesus reach and will not do that.

these are just my thoughts on this. your earlier post did seem to imply you were asking for God to remove the president from more then just office, so thank you for clearly that up.
rdg

Editing my post: i realized that in my post i have gone way off topic from what the original poster meant for it to be so i wanted to say i am sorry for that. i was saddened to see the president say such things as he did and reading about it did remind me to be in prayer for him to see his need for Jesus and to repent and for those who are lost as well.

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Lysa

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1 Timothy 2:1-4
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; for kings, AND FOR ALL THAT ARE IN AUTHORITY; THAT WE MAY LEAD A QUIET AND PEACEABLE LIFE in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. (KJV)
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Anyone is free to disagree with me, but Obama needs our prayers, not our criticisms. No one is more disgruntled with him than I but back a few months ago the Lord pricked my heart about obeying this one seemingly little piece of scripture.

So i ask you in return as well, those who are complaining about him, have you actually spent time in prayer "for" his soul, for his leadership and for his family?

God bless us all,
Lisa

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Lysa


I hope those who were not criticizing Obama KNOW that I was NOT talking to them!! Don't let satan lie to you that I was when I wasn't just because I didn't name names. Just saying... (huge grin)

God bless,
Lisa

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AbideinHim

The Word of God does indeed instruct us to pray for those in authority, but wouldn't it be the wise and prudent thing to do to pray that God would place godly men in positions of authority? There were many Christians that did not bother to vote in this last presidential election, reasoning that it doesn't matter who is in office, God is in control. There were a lot of Christians in the black community that voted for Obama knowing that he is pro abortion and pro - gay marriage.

I pray for those in authority, and I pray for them to be saved. However if they continue to harden their hearts to the Lord, continue to vote for laws that legalize the murder of innocent babies, and continue to support same sex marriage, then I pray that they would be removed from office, and that someone would take their place that at least have some what of a biblical worldview, and that recognizes the fact that the wisdom of man falls far short of the much needed wisdom and council of God.

Mike

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sermonindex

Mike, do you and any others think that abortion and same sex marriage are the ONLY national sin issues afoot in this nation?

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AbideinHim

"Mike, do you and any others think that abortion and same sex marriage are the ONLY national sin issues afoot in this nation?"

Where should we begin?

Why don't we start here?

"Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." (Ezekiel 16:49).

The condition of this nation is only a replica of what is in the church today, because there is little difference between the church and the world.

To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

"The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:

‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. Because you say, "I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me. He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’” (Revelation 3:14-22).

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KPYee

Sorry to read about your experience . But I am very happy that you are able by the grace of God to triumph over it..

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Lysa

AbideinHim wrote:
...but wouldn't it be the wise and prudent thing to do to pray that God would place godly men in positions of authority?

Brother, I have the utmost respect for you but it is not wise and prudent when it is not Biblical and you have no scripture to support it.

Jesus, the Author & Finisher of our faith said, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;” Matt 5.44 AND "Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.” Luke 6.29

Also, Jesus did not tell the disciples to pray for Pilate and Caesar to be replaced; he taught his followers (you and me) to live under them. And even in Daniel, Daniel did not pray for Nebuchadnezzar to be replaced.

Did Paul tell us to pray to have them replaced? No, his words were: "1. supplications, 2. prayers, 3. intercessions, and 4. giving of thanks, be made for all men; for kings, AND FOR ALL THAT ARE IN AUTHORITY;”

I humbly beseech you brother to see that it’s not about WHO is in office, it’s about "our” response to those whom GOD has put in office.

God bless,
Lisa

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AbideinHim

Lysa,

It is not unscriptural to pray for godly men to be placed in postions of authority.

It is also not unscriptural to speak the truth concerning corrupt leaders in our nation.

We are to obey our leaders to the extent that it is not disobeying God.

I don't believe that Bonhoffer was out of the will of God as he warned the church in Germany about the evils of the Nazi Regime.

What would have become of this nation if our founding fathers would have submitted themselves to the tyranny of the British throne?

Mike

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AbideinHim

I found this article on Christianity and the American Reveloution to be interesting:

EVENTS MOVED QUICKLY in the years before independence. As late as 1761, during the French and Indian War, Congregational ministers in Connecticut pledged absolute fidelity and submission to the king of England. By the mid 1760s, after Britain had begun taxing the colonies, many of these same clergy were denouncing the king and justifying non-submission.

During the Revolutionary era, the pulpit played a key role in encouraging dissent. The political activism of these black-robed ministers earned them the name "the black regiment.”

In July 1775, as tensions with the British rose, the Continental Congress called for a day of prayer and fasting. Most ministers used the occasion to preach for the colonial cause, but Anglican clergyman Jonathan Boucher spoke instead on the need to obey constituted authority. Concerned about his safety in proclaiming such an unpopular view, he carried into his pulpit not only his sermon manuscript but also a loaded pistol.

At the bottom of the original Declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress ordered copies of the Declaration first be sent not to town clerks or newspapers but to parish ministers, who were "required to read the same to their respective congregations, as soon as divine service is ended, in the afternoon, on the first Lord’s day after they have received it.”

During the war, more than a hundred colonial ministers served as chaplains in the Continental Army, and a lesser number of Anglican clergy, sympathetic to the loyalist cause, joined British regiments. As a result, many congregations found themselves with empty pulpits during the war.

Most colonial legislatures exempted pacifists, such as Quakers and Mennonites, from military duty, though fines to underwrite the expenses of war were often still levied. Quakers, however, objected to paying tax for war and disciplined 450 of their members for paying it.

The war was supported by most Baptist men and at least one Baptist woman! In 1782 Massachusetts Baptist Deborah Sampson donned a soldier’s uniform and successfully enlisted in the Continental Army as Private Robert Shurtliff. Assigned to the infantry, she was wounded twice. Her sexual identity went undetected for over a year. After the war, Deborah married a farmer and bore three children. She eventually received full payment, a pension, and public praise for her military service. Her church, however, excommunicated her for impersonating a man.

English Bibles were not printed in America until a year after the Declaration of Independence, when an edition of a King James Version New Testament was published. The complete Bible appeared five years later. Until then, all colonial Bibles were imported from England because only the king’s commissioned printers were allowed to issue them.

Though Americans fought for religious liberty in 1776 and passed a Constitutional amendment in 1791 to protect religious freedom, Connecticut did not disestablish its state-sponsored Congregational church until 1818, and Massachusetts not until 1833.

At the end of the war, after Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown, George Washington "suggested” his troops thank God: "The General congratulates the army upon the glorious event of yesterday. . . . Divine service is to be performed tomorrow in the several brigades and divisions. The commander in chief recommends that the troops not on duty should universally attend with that seriousness of deportment and gratitude of heart which the recognition of such reiterated and astonishing interpositions of Providence demand of us.”

The 1783 Treaty of Paris, which concluded the peace between Britain and the United States, begins "In the name of the most Holy and undivided Trinity.”

Cassandra Niemczyk is a freelance writer from Wheaton, Illinois, and a regular contributor to Christian History.

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Lordoitagain

Lysa,

God wants us to pray for His will to be done. In Acts Ch. 12 after Herod had killed James the brother of John with a sword, the church had an all-night prayer meeting, and God released Peter from prison.

Shortly afterward, God ordered death by worms to Herod. God’s perfect will would have been for Herod to repent, but since Herod chose to exalt himself instead of repenting, God’s will was that he be replaced.

If we sincerely pray "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven", his will may include at times a mighty act of judgment and much destruction, when hearts refuse to repent, but always his perfect and most desired will is that all would come to repentance.

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Sidewalk

Not to nit-pick, but it was the "Black Robed Regiment". No racial implications...

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Sidewalk

Likewise to Herod's demise, Nebuchanezzar had a year's warning before he was driven from among men and had his mind replaced with that of a beast for a number of years. He was fortunate enough to be restored to power, but only after he acknowledged that God was his supreme commander.

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AbideinHim

Also we must consider this: As our brother mentioned, God does at times declare judgement to leaders of nations. God can speak a direct judgement or He could speak judgement through His saints. Now I am not saying that this is something that we would do on our own. It would have to be in the will of God.

When I pray for wicked leaders to be removed, I am not praying for their death. God's will is that all would be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.

Mike

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