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the TRUTH on whats happening in Ukraine today. God help us.

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Saints, my brothers and sisters,
I realize this is a secular item to post, which I do with trepidation.

However, I simply must. this is a VERY COHERENT radio briefing from Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who served under President Reagan...he's a good man, I THINK he's a follower of Jesus.

two things, I had to post this, after watching and reading everything in this current global crisis, I have to tell you, we, America has set the world on fire....God help us....and what you read in the main stream press is a bunch of omission and half truths.

also, for the last 8 months I've been grieving....to where I would be weeping , praying.....knowing in the Holy Spirit, SOMETHING Is coming, SOMETHING is wrong....we've arrived at that time.

here's the audio file....I hope you don't mind brother Greg....it will give saints prayer points......and TRUTH

http://bit.ly/1hKbbp7

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rainydaygirl

listened to it and was surprised to hear some of these things. the news is not saying anything about any of this. do you think as this man has said is possible that nuclear war could be the result? it almost sounds like Putin is in the right in all of this unless i am misunderstanding.

rdg

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a-servant

Excellent analysis.

Neo-nazis always support neo-nazis, the offical propaganda
is just show business. Clever to reverse the logic in the
western media and call everyone in the Russian gov. "liars"
in reality they will not accept Ukraine to become part of the
EU and another close to home front for American missile bases.

Listen to this, excellent joke by Kerry:
"One doesn't invade another country on phony pretext"

the most hilarious thing I've read this year, so far, and what
arrogance and stupidity, introducing chaos to the whole world
in a long list of invasions of foreign countries on phony pretexts.

Listen also to trunews todays radio program, it's along
the same lines as the above program before Mark Biltz comes on.
Rick does not hold back and calls it what it is. Listen and learn.

That's the beginning of the confrontation between America and
Russia. It just got real. And it will end eventually with the
American accent of speaking english not to be heard on the
airwaves anymore. The sooner we will understand that, the earlier
we will get moving to other places, Americans will be homeless
on this earth and refugees. Soon we all will understand what
this means in actual reality to be a sojourner on this dying planet.

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Lysa


Here is an article supporting this audio on Russian citizenship....

Published on Tuesday, March 4, 2014 by Common Dreams

What the US Media Won't Tell You About Ukraine

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/04-0

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MrBillPro

by a-servant..Listen also to trunews today's radio program, it's along the same lines as the above program before Mark Biltz comes on.Rick does not hold back and calls it what it is. Listen and learn.

Love True News! Listen to it every night before bed, "sometimes" Rick gets a little overly dramatic, but that's ok, I still enjoy it.

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listened to it and was surprised to hear some of these things. the news is not saying anything about any of this. do you think as this man has said is possible that nuclear war could be the result? it almost sounds like Putin is in the right in all of this unless i am misunderstanding.

Rainy, i'm a true red white and blue patriotic...i'm not some grind my country down freak, when I was 17, I was in the Navy, and at 18, had a top secret code word clearance, and read, wrote and spoke Korean....because I thought it was my duty to defend my nation.

Paul Roberts the man you listened to, served at the highest levels of power at the White House during President Reagans term, he predicted the Soviet union would fall, with a paper he wrote in the early 70's....he's not some nut...in fact what he wrote today, I couldn't put up here.

Putin is in the right, he is defending his people....but he hasn't been reckless...calculated moves, to leave him room to negotiate with the EU, and the moderate Ukrainian opposition.

But he will never allow the Svoboda, the neo-nazi's to head up a new Ukrainian govt.....and the sad thing...we, Americans set this all in motion, by messing in Ukrainian politics, supporting the moderates......so inept we were, never considering their might be another political party, who had no qualms about bashing heads in, shooting people, starting fires, and that was the neo Nazi's the Svoboda...and the "Right Sector"....and theres another 3 or 4 more Nazi gangs involved.

my maternal great great grandmother was a young Ukrainian Jewish widow in the 1880's, a baker with four girls....and the "Svoboda" types even back then made life for Jews in Ukraine,a living hell, killing raping beating. So my great great mother dreamed and worked hard, and one by one shipped all four girls to a magical place called America...I don't know if they were observant Jews, but they were Jews and i'm sure that dear woman trusted God....and now this.

and now this. i'm heartbroken. I watched Putin, we look Sooomewhat similar, meaning you can see we come from the same area.....and I have a very good "bovine scat" meter (scuse my language) God gave me a Gift, I can look at you, listen to you, read you and KNOW, if you are telling TRUTH...or not.

Putin was telling the truth.....then I watched Kerry, then Obama, and they were lying.

Putin will NEVER allow these neo-Nazi's to seize power, or even RUN for election......and Paul Roberts, who is very highly placed wrote this....he believes the neo cons, (and some of them are dems) have gone insane, that they believe a nuclear war is "winnable"...those were his words.

I know 'war-fighting' well.....in nuclear war fighting the word "win" isn't even USED....they use the word "prevail", meaning who suffered the least million killed.

this is demonic, and I ask myself, has our nation fallen so bad and so tightly into satan's grip?

please forgive me, if I frightened you. I would rather tell you what God revealed to me to be the truth...and remember what dear Jesus aid to us..."Don't be frightened, just believe"

Shalom tzadik, Yonatan (neil)

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Interview 829 ”“ Paul Craig Roberts Connects the Dots on the Ukrainian Revolution

http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/2014-02-25%20Paul%20Craig%20Roberts.mp3

http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-829-paul-craig-roberts-connects-the-dots-on-the-ukrainian-revolution/

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Neo-nazis always support neo-nazis, the official propaganda
is just show business. Clever to reverse the logic in the
western media and call everyone in the Russian gov. "liars"
in reality they will not accept Ukraine to become part of the
EU and another close to home front for American missile bases

It is a shame that things have come to this in Europe. Nazism has once again been on the rise in Europe since the 1970's. In Greece last summer the Golden Dawn held political press conferences where they forced journalists to stand whilst their man entered the room, on threat of physical violence. Even in my own country Nazism has been slowly forming in the shadows. I suppose if most sane people were to be asked what to choose between The US free political model or European Fascism most would choose the US Imperialist free market 'do as thou wilt' model of governance. As you say though the last number of years have proven somewhat disastrous for the US in terms of its relations with the world.

It does make one wonder how it will all end. I am glad I have no interest in politics and making political direction. I fear that I would be an ardent Fascist if I were. But then I am honest about the nature of my flesh.

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I just listened to the Paul Craig Roberts interview. I have to admit I was mistaken. All this time I have been thinking that Putin was the aggressor. We have been led to believe that the Russian invasion was a militaristic attempt to stomp out a fledgling democracy. When in actuality the Russian intervention appears to be a response to protect Russian interest in the Ukraine.

Honestly I should have known better. I should have seen this has that ear marks of Washington. Can anyone believe the lies that come out of the White House and Foggy Bottom.

Does anyone remember Egyotr? Several million Egyptians took to the streets begging the military to intervene and put a stop to the Islamic agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood. Yet Washington reported this as a military takeover of a democratically elected government. Ignoring the fact that this government was pushing Egypt into an Islamic caliphate. This was never reported by the liberal media.

Does anyone remember Syria?  The Presidentis is arming so called moderate rebel forces to overthrow Assad. When in actuality these rebels with ties to al Qaeda have used these weapons the massacre Christians and others who did not agree with their agenda. Again the ear marks of Washington.

Thus it is not surprising that the Ukrainian situation has your marks of this administration. The danger here is indeed we could be led into a confrontation with Russia itself. In which case we may be coming to the brink of something we cannot walk away from.

Again prayer is critically needed.

Blaine Scogin

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rainydaygirl

thank you neil for posting back to me. i had no idea that this was happening. the links are very interesting and enlightening. of course i am not surprised that those in washington have not been forth right and honest in these events. it would seem that our country is in the position of supporting a group of neo-Nazi in coming against Russia in this. how sad and how far have we sunk that those in power could ever think it ok to support such hate is truly frightening. on a side note looking around at the American public, people seem more interested in the awards shows, hollywood, and what is the newest flavor of the month. its not surprising with so many that have been dumbed down that our government can and will lie to them and it be eaten up with out question.

thanks for the posts. i do agree looking to Jesus and trusting in Him knowing that is our only real and true salvation.

rdg

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a-servant

The economical war already started today:

Obama administration moves to freeze Russian assets

President Obama signed an executive order giving his administration powers to freeze U.S.-based financial assets and property 0f Russian officials responsible for the country's military intervention in Ukraine, the White House announced Thursday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/06/obama-administration-moves-to-freeze-russian-assets/


A top Russian lawmaker has revealed he is working on a bill that would freeze the assets of European and American companies operating in Russia in reply to Western economic sanctions.

https://rt.com/politics/russia-asset-freeze-sanctions-897/

this is bad news, nobody is going to win this game, everbody will loose. And again we have to thank Mr. "O" for that nonsense.

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ADisciple

"Be still and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen (the nations), I will be exalted in the earth" (Psalm 46:10).

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IMF wants to bail out (own) Ukraine.

The U.S. acts as the IMF's "muscle" around the world.


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Sidewalk

If you can find the time, reading some of the things Vladimir Putin has written in op-eds in American publications are very insightful. The man has been portrayed as a cruel bully and while this tough complicated world leader may have earned the reputation, his understanding of his own role on the world stage is quite clear.

In one of the pieces- you can find them with Google, he made a stong case for putting up a united front against Islamic Jihad, recognizing this as a common interest for his nation and the West. He is baffled by the incongruity of American foreign policy, and sees this as inexperience run amuck.

Just following this year's State of the Union address when the Syrian crisis was on the front pages, he wrote a piece that mostly dealt with hopes the United Nations efforts might help in a resolution. But he included a small critique of Obama's speech- to give you a little flavor of his writing style here is an excerpt:

"My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is "what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia.

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I will just add Sidewalk, that the people of Crimea consider Putin a "great Christian leader".

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Sidewalk

Incidentally, maybe we should be careful in needlessly cultivating the man's wrath. I can envision him telling the US that if the scientists at the International Space Station want to come home, they can find their own ride.

Obama's director of NASA declared that their mission is no longer space, but glad handing Muslims for their contributions to human advancement. All of the US space shuttles are decommissioned.

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Sidewalk

Putin's easy references to God are quite a change from the days of the Soviet empire when atheism was the official doctrine of all the communist leadership. Wonder what happened there??

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sermonindex

there's two items I wish to forward to the brethren....and again I say, I do this with great unease, as I do NOT wish to frighten anyone....the first is something that happened today, but its reported from zerohedge.com

(zerohedge has been one of the most reliable alt media sites since the financial implosion of 2008.) I will only paste the beginning of the article and leave the link:

Crimea Parliament "Accelerates Crisis", Votes To Join Russia

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"While the world is convinced that Putin's Tuesday press conference was an admission of blinking to the west, the reality is anything but that, and hours ago Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum within 10 days on the decision in what Reuters said is a "a dramatic escalation of the crisis over the Ukrainian Black Sea peninsula." To be sure, the Crimea - which has an ethnic Russian majority - affiliation to Moscow as opposed to Kiev is well-known, yet still the sudden acceleration of moves to bring Crimea formally under Moscow's rule came as European Union leaders gathered for an emergency summit to seek ways to pressure Russia to back down and accept mediation. And now all Putin has to do is sit back and say the people have spoken and without spilling a drop of blood has effectively split the country in two parts, with the entire east of Ukraine, where pro-Russian sentiment also runs high - sure to follow Crimea. Just as we said from the very beginning."

(rest of the article http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-06/crimea-parliament-accelerates-crisis-votes-join-russia )


the 2nd piece I forward you was written by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, and it is very unsettling to me...this man, who worked at the highest levels of govt in the Reagan administration is not some tin foil behatted wild man.....and on the 3rd of March he wrote a piece entitled

"The end could be nearer than you think ”” Paul Craig Roberts"

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EDITED BY MODERATORS: We have removed this part of the article because of the nature of language and accusations as well as conspiracy theory allusions. This we do not promote or want to support on SermonIndex.
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Very good article, Neil.

Washington tried, but failed, to take Ukraine in 2004 with the Washington-financed "Orange Revolution.” According to Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, since this failure Washington has "invested” $5 billion in Ukraine in order to foment agitation for EU membership for Ukraine. EU membership would open Ukraine to looting by Western bankers and corporations, but Washington’s main goal is to establish US missile bases on Russia’s border with Ukraine and to deprive Russia of its Black Sea naval base and military industries in eastern Ukraine. EU membership for Ukraine means NATO membership.

And they loot countries via the IMF.

The 3 city states that control the world. One is military control (world's policeman) one is economic control and the third is religious control.

Google "Empire of the City" and you'll figure out who they are.

Revelation 18:7
How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously,
so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

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rainydaygirl

neil your posts are not frightening(well not after i pray about it :) anyway thanks for sharing the links. i feel like you do, that things could be about to happen really fast and so many in this country will be taken completely unaware. prayer is a our best resource and trusting in Him.


rdg

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Heydave

Another interesting factor that plays into this situation is the fact that Edward Snowden who has been leaking all the US secrets is being looked after by the Russians, so they will surely know a lot of what the USA has been up to in The Ukraine.

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tbsounde2

Hi HezWelling,

I listened to the link you posted and to be honest I don't know what to make of it. Dr. Roberts clearly has a strong bias against the current administration (calling it a regime) and ranting about their incompetence. He also claims that the US was responsible for causing the social unrest seen throughout various nations in recents times, which I personally cannot say for certain, but still remains quite unverified in my opinion and leans more on conspiracy theory rather than hard fact. Now, I don't agree with most of the things that our president does, but in all honesty, I don't think Reagan was any better, let alone George W. These men claimed to be representing God, but in my assessment, they made a mockery of His great name; by touting "Christ, Christ" to pursue a republican agenda and not a Christ centered agenda thus creating a false perception that the republican party represents biblical standards and truth. It is this pretense of religion that has caused the name of Christ to be maligned not only throughout the world but here at home in the USA as well. The very fact that Reagan highly honored and respected a wicked man like Milton Friedman, whose very economic philosophy is that there is nothing wrong with greed and that everything should be privatized (removing social institutions like welfare, etc) shows me where he stands. He (Friedman) also taught that these unbiblical concepts of total Laissez-faire will only be adopted by countries after a natural or man made disaster like war, etc, and happened to be economic advisor to many world leaders all the way up to George W. Now, moving on to Putin. I don't personally know a great deal about him as a man, but I do know that he was a high ranking member of the KGB and has pretty much been the dictator of Russia for almost 15 years, I mean who rules a nation for that long? Also, can you imagine if the Mexican or Canadian or even Russian army came to the US and took over our military bases in order to "protect" Russian speaking people who are under threat of lawlessness in the US? That is precisely what Russia has done. Regardless of the possibility of "this and that" proposed by Dr. Robertson, it is clear that Russia has violated the sovereignty of Ukraine as a separate nation from Russia. And just as it would not be acceptable if any nation did that to us, the same goes for Ukraine and every other country in the world. Also, do you remember the whole incident with the members of a Russian girl band that were imprisoned for criticizing him? Are we going to so easily forget the obvious human rights violations that occur regularly in Russia, especially with free speech? I know that the US is not without fault and is guilty of many sins, but let us be careful to be so blinded by our own zeal for righteousness that we begin to see men like Putin and the nation of Russia as good and so easily forget that we are still blessed here in the US. One only need to live in Russia for a spell and come back to the states to realize the truth in what I am saying. Now, what am I trying to get at with all this? That we should not look to man and believe everything they say, no matter how convicted or right they may seem, regardless of how much and audibly they can say "Jesus." Let us not put our faith in politicians, dead or alive, but put our faith in Christ who said that all these things must happen before His return. Let us not get caught up in hearsay and babble and propagate what could likely be misinformation but rather exhort ourselves and others to pray that the Lord's perfect will be done and that He would keep us pure and blameless until the soon coming day of His return when everything hidden will be exposed and brought into the light and the mouth of every man silenced as every knee bows before the Throne.

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I think I remember something about better to trust in the Lord and Prince`s.

Blaine

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i'm glad you got something out of those, was well as my beloved sister Rainy.

military control----Washington Dc

economic control---London (Brussels?--EU?)

"religious" control---rome


my brother, you know a lot of the saints REALLY try and completely understand , and parse out Revelations?...with a lot of theological terms, and this is going to happen then....and the "Left Behind" series.....i'm not insulting or MEAN to insult those who hold to this eschatological doctrine or that one...I TRULY believe in the Freedom of Christ...but God the Father doesn't allow me to do this....he said to me, "eat of the scroll", and sometimes when I do, its tastes like honey in my mouth and bitter in my stomach.....all I know is this:

the whore of Babylon will stripped naked, and given to the shame she deserves, for all the seductions she laid on men of weakness, greed, violence and various lusts....men who did not hear the Word, "repent"....men who repeatedly worship the golden calf, money.......foolish like Esau, they sell a beautiful inheritance for some red stew.....my heart aches for that tragic man, who wept to no avail....it will be like that for the merchants of the earth, watching their cargoes, burn in the fire(nuclear)

all I know is this, eating the scroll of Revelations, that the beast, the dragon, and satan....and all those who follow him, will be cast into the lake of eternal fire....FOREVER....I already know the ending, Bless the Name, Bless God.

this is what God has given me to know.

now listen, dear ones, satan is going after my own family , AT THIS TIME....right now, in so many horrible ways....out of love and discretion, I cannot be specific, and i'm certain its no different with some of you dear souls, and your dear families...


so WE PRAY....in the strength we are given....and WE HELP in the resource we are given....

one last thing....after we pray, and seek God, like any Good Father, He wishes to lighten our hearts, so in my small way......here's a link to an Israeli film, "Ushpizin"....that is dear, delightful and God centered....its always cheers me, won every Israeli film award in 2006.....the "star" of the film Shuli Rand, also directed and wrote....he is a Hasid....trust me, you will not be bored:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgiCDDGdnv4

I send it with love, that you may be comforted...from a Jew who follows Jesus Messiah, your brother neil

ps....one of my favorite scenes is when everyone is blowing the shofar's during Succoth and dancing in Joy of the LORD....its beautiful and at the starts at the 11:00 mark.....and cumulates at the 12:30-13;00 as the tzadik dance by.....btw, the woman who portrays "Moshe's" wife is his real wife, and it is her first film, and probably only....she's a dear woman.....and gives real meaning to the opening of Romans 9...forgive me for going off topic

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