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Islamic State message to America: 'we will drown all of you in blood'

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The Islamic State militant group that has seized large parts of Iraq and drawn the first American air strikes since the end of the occupation in 2011 has warned the United States it will attack Americans "in any place" if the raids hit its militants.

The video, which shows a photograph of an American who was beheaded during the U.S. occupation of Iraq and victims of snipers, featured a statement which said in English "we will drown all of you in blood".
U.S. airstrikes in northern Iraq have helped Kurdish fighters take back some territory captured by Islamic State militants, who have threatened to march on Baghdad. ...

read more: http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-message-america-drown-blood-004418744.html

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But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Matthew 5:44

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For our citizenship is in heaven.

Blaine

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"There are six things that the LORD hates,
seven that are an abomination to him:
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hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked plans,
feet that make haste to run to evil"

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"Psalm 11:5 The Lord tests the righteous,But the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates."

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Apparently what the Islamic State is out to destroy is what they call "the American cross."

http://www.newsweek.com/islamic-state-vows-break-american-cross-265709

I wonder what they have in mind by "the American cross."

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An American Cross????

Any one carrying such????

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bring it.

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Heydave

What the governments of this world (Obama, Cameron, et al) either don't get or won't admit is this is not just a fringe extremist group of Muslims, but it is fundamental Islamic teaching and the same thing we see is multiple areas of the world from Hamas in Gaza, Syria, Nigeria, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc, etc.

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brother, one nation of the world "sees" it....Israel, and they will crush them. Israel tried 135 hours of peace talks, Hamas starting fire rockets and the airstrikes resumed, on leadership targets.

But whether Hamas and IS interface is to be seen.

I've been watching a LOT of IS social media video's, and these demoniacs are much different then we've ever seen....it seems they like killing Shia, and blowing up their mosques....MORE than they desire to attack Israel...for now.

in my spirit, I feel they are planning an attack on these shores, maybe in the United Kingdom as well. i'm not certain our intel will turn their heads, as they did in Aug 2001. I don't believe the attacks on America in Sept 2001 were an "inside" job as many believe....I just think our intel went purposely "dumb and blind", because it SUITED them....meaning the US NOW had a cause belli in the arab world to pursue their own interests, which of course, is to being sitting atop vast reserves of energy.

the incursion in Syria, by the USA/EU/Brit forces is really about "dueling pipelines"....the purposed pipeline from the south, Saudi Arabia, and the pipelines from the west, Russia....that's why we are so intent on displacing a secular ba-athist socialist regime of Assad.

this has never been in Israel's interests, because the vacuum will be filled with IS...it was the same in Iraq, Saddam Hussein was a secular ba-athist, who in 2003 had force strength , 20% of pre-Desert Storm levels....and he was replaced by a weak Shia leadership....and we see how well that's all worked out.

Why do I say this fighting to topple Assad is not in Israel's interest?....the last time an Assad decided to take on Israel, in a stand up fight, the score was 82-0, meaning it was an air battle, where the IAF shot down 82 top line Syrian aircraft and didn't lose a plane....even a couple years ago, IAF forces turned Syria's one nuke reactor into a smoking ruin....and Assad didn't breathe a peep of protest.

So, I believe IS's next move is to attack continental US, probably on the line of the "Mumbai" attack, in multiple American cities.....take over 5 star hotels in American cities, and just start killing and blowing things up, it would have the same impact that 9/11 did, because if they did it bad and ugly, Americans wouldn't even feel secure in the high rent districts of our own cities....and the Obama "team" is joke, the President "looks" weak, his last press conference on both Ferguson and IS, he mumbled and stumbled, and then he went golfing.

God forbid (underline that) IS directly attacks CONUS, who do we hit?......IS , so far, is a non state actor....I wonder WHO EXACTLY is providing them with their Toyota Hilux mobile weapon platforms, they've been taking left over US equipment in Iraq, but more importantly watching their video's, many of them SEEM to have superior training, at least for Arabs.

i'm getting so sick of hearing them shriek 'allahuakbar', when they kill people, and blow up mosques. I appreciate many saints stance, but sometimes.......George Bush and team really opened the gates of hell in early 2003, when they went into Iraq on a foundation of lies. I said it THEN....on this forum, and I say it now, because this weak President now, is going to try and cast himself as a wartime President, which he is NOT. Bush 43 as well, was not a wartime President....."mission accomplished?"

Since Obama's election in 2008, the foreign policy team he has assembled has proved to be totally incompetent...and at the worst, wicked.

These are very dark days, many innocent people are dying and will die. my heart only knows grief, neil


read this: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/why-arent-americans-taking-the-isis-threat-to-drown-all-of-you-in-blood-seriously

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Sounds like the end time scenario that Frank has posted on his thread. Very disturbing.

Blaine

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I watched this yesterday and thought this lady nailed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

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That was excellent Oracio

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I just got off the phone with a sister. After talking with her I realized my focus has been wrong. And I need to repent before God of taking my eyes off of Him. And putting my eyes on what the enemy is doing. And I wonder if some of us in this form do not need to repent of taking our eyes off of Jesus.

What value comes out of watching the beheading of a journalist? Is this is not what the enemy wants us to do? Satan wants us to focus on the evil he is bringing about.

Should we not be looking to the cross that has defeated Satan? Should we not be looking to the last chapter in the Bible and see the victor is? The last time I listened to Revelation It was Jesus who is returning to rule and reign!!!! Not the devil. Satan and those who follow Him will be thrown into the lake of everlasting fire and torment. It will be the saints who will rule and reign with Christ.

The devil wants us to do dwell in fear. But according to Hebrews 2:14 the devil who has the power of death has been rendered powerless by the Lord Jesus Christ. Also those of us who have been enslaved to a fear of death have been set free. That by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Saints God is effecting an eternal plan of redemption to reach the nations. That includes the Islamic State. The way to defeat the Islamic State is not with air strikes but by the gospel of Jesus Christ.

If they are going to drown us in our blood. And we are going to die someday. Then let us pray the Islamic state will be covered in the blood of Jesus Christ.

I find this far more victorious been focusing on what the evil one is doing.

My thoughts.

Blaine Scogin

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Romans 13:1-4

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Doesn't these scriptures show that God is for the USA or any nation of leaders that would execute wrath upon the evil doers to stop them from killing and torturing innocent men, women, and children.

As Christians we are to pray for all men to be saved but we should also pray for leaders of this world to protect society from evil perpetrators.

For verse 4 says that he is the minister of God to thee for good...it also says that he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil.

Blessings to all!

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Rbanks,

I believe that was what the Popes were saying when they called for the crusades to free the Hoky Land from the Moslems.

Romans 13 is not to be interpreted for invasion and war against other nations. Rom.13 is simply instructing believers to submit to governing authorities. Provided such submission does not override the law of Christ. For ultimately we are citizens of His kingdom.

Our war is not a temporal one but a spiritual one. Particularly when dealing with the likes of the Islamic State. This war can only be one with the spiritual armour of Eph. 6.

Blaine

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Wow Blaine...first time I have posted in a long time and you replied back to me in this matter.

I see no where that I have disagreed with your posts!

I have not stated that Christians should fight physically. I was just wondering about how others interpret this scripture in light of the evil that is being perpetrated on the innocent.

I believe God wants leaders of nations to protect the innocent, and I don't know what is wrong with that?

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Rbanks there was nothing personal in my response to you bro. If it came off as such then my sincerest apologies.

But Rom.13 is directives for Christians to submit to governing authorities. The purpose of government is to keep order in its own sphere. Not to protect the oppressed in other nations. As noble as that may be.

Of course my thoughts.

Blaine

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Bear wrote:

"The purpose of government is to keep order in its own sphere. Not to protect the oppressed in other nations. As noble as that may be."

Such talk is foolishness. Show me in the Bible where it says to ignore the plight of the oppressed and those who are suffering, please. What difference does it make what nation they are in? Haven't you said repeatedly you are not concerned with earthly kingdoms but rather the heavenly kingdom? My Bible praises those who take up the cause of the weak and oppressed.

To see evil and suffering and not do something about it when you have the ability to do so is sin.

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by bearmaster on 2014/8/21 13:59:59

Rbanks there was nothing personal in my response to you bro. If it came off as such then my sincerest apologies.

But Rom.13 is directives for Christians to submit to governing authorities. The purpose of government is to keep order in its own sphere. Not to protect the oppressed in other nations. As noble as that may be.

Of course my thoughts.

Blaine
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Thanks brother!

I agree that it states that Christians are to submit to governing authorities but the bible seems to imply that governing authorities are set up by God for the welfare of the people.

So are you saying that the USA, Israel, or any other nation, as noble as it maybe, when they have the means to help others, are to just overlook innocent people being slaughter and just do nothing.

I'm not just implying this to you even though you're the only one that has commented since I posted a comment.

I just think there is more understanding to that scripture than just relating to Christians.

Blessings brother

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Quote: Our war is not a temporal one but a spiritual one. Particularly when dealing with the likes of the Islamic State. This war can only be one with the spiritual armour of Eph. 6.

The one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

How did Christ fight this spiritual fight with that would destroy the works of the devil? He hung his natural body on a cross... How it all worked out, I don't know how but there is a connection between the natural world and the spiritual world as in this case Christ natural body was used to destroy a spiritual power...

So we don't just have to fight against the spiritual powers, we must also fight against the human powers that these spiritual powers operate through..

The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. Rom 16:20

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wow...we can spiritualized everything to death and repeat things over and over. Its like preaching to the choir.

Nobody seems to want to talk about or even try to understand Romans 13.4.

Ok...never mind...its too risky to try and understand.

I know this, that if your neighborhood and family were about to get shot up and butchered, you would very much appreciate law and order when the police showed up risking their lives to protect your neighborhood and family.

Everybody is not saved and filled with the Holy Spirit but God uses law and order to protect people in society.

For God so loved the world...

Blessings to all and have a great day!

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we see a constant theam of god raising up authority's to execute judgment on blood thirsty nations .. a Nation to judge the other nation ,,,, he also uses nations to bring blessing and relieve suffering in accordance with the same principle romans 13.4

to denie that is to denie scriptural examples

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"Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
(1 Tim 2)

Seems to me like God wants us to pray for all governments that they execute the rule that allows peace to reign and the gospel to be freely preached on earth. This is His perfect will at this time (good and acceptable).

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Gary you may be right. God could use the Islamic State to judge America. Perhaps to drown us in our own blood for the blood of countless children aborted on the alter of Satan.

Blaine

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I thought the antichrist and his giant robot destroyer was going to destroy the US, not ISIS.

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with such, why would anybody WANT to post?

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Saints,

We ask that posts especially on current news items and national items such as this be done without personal accusations or judging of anyone. Many brothers and sisters can disagree on certain matters and that should not make us to name-call or to dis-fellowship in anyway. My first post in response to this new item was one of personal introspection. Can we love our enemies in the case with ISIS? Do we pray for their salvation? Can we believe they can come to a belief in the Son of God?

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Quote: Gary you may be right. God could use the Islamic State to judge America. Perhaps to drown us in our own blood for the blood of countless children aborted on the alter of Satan.

I also think it will wake up many in the sleeping church.... Which change the nations we live in....

If My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.. 2 Chronicles 7:14

It's not to late, it can be changed.....

May the great God, whom I worship, grant to my country and for the benefit of Europe and the World in general, a great and glorious revival: so that our nation and the nations of Europe and North America will again worship the one true God. May you Lord, once again send our Sons and Daughters to the Nations to turn many Nations into worshippers of you.

Amen.

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blain i dont see why thats not possable ,i think he did that with the trade towers ,,scripture would seem to show that may happen to any nation when the stength of its sins reach to heaven

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