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DEADn

I noticed that Christians and conservatives tend to use this site as a source of news. I have wondered why. I used to read it myself but I found they were so much into sensationalism that it took readers on a wild ride to nowhere.
Do any of you read WND? Why do you read it?

John

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TMK

I used to look at it some. It is conservative and sympathetic to a Christian world view but like you said it's pretty sensationalistic.

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dolfan

Like the National Enquirer. Even Drudge links to it often. It is mostly fluff and pandering.

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sermonindex

That is true Dolfan, some sites link to WND and you just have to be discerning. Just like when reading CNN or any mainstream media. You can always be taken on a "wild ride."

Seems like most people read WND when being linked to it and that is probably true for many "news" sites.

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sermonindex

Now that John has brought it up, I went directly to WND and am looking at Frontpage. Looks to have many articles that other news sites have.

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DEADn

Sensationalism is all I see when I have gone there. I went there after my initial post just to peek. My question is why do Christians use it as a reference to prove and share news? It is like sharing a blown up balloon with people that is full of hot air with not substance. Hence it helps tear down Christian news items that come from this site.

John

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TMK

Because Christians are desperate for a news source that is not hostile to Christianity.

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sermonindex

I can't answer for other Christians.

I see OBAMA BOOTS KIDS WITH CANCER FROM WHITE HOUSE PARK

which I see on Yahoo.

I see HOUSE VOTES TO PROTECT BABIES BORN ALIVE DURING ABORTION

and I see this:

TRUMP: HILLARY CREATED 'BIRTHER' ATTACKS ON OBAMA
'People should go back and look … when they ran against each other in 2008'
Published: 2 hours ago
(THE HILL) Republican front-runner Donald Trump said on Monday that his Democratic counterpart, Hillary Clinton, is responsible for questions about President Obama’s birthplace.

Trump said on "Fox and Friends” that Clinton implied during the 2008 presidential election that Obama was a foreigner.

"People should go back and look at Hillary’s relationship with Obama when they ran against each other in 2008,” he said.

I can find these same news articles on other sites. But, you are right. There are National Enquirer type articles, too.

Can you tell me a serious new site that you esteem?

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DEADn

I go back and forth between Conservative and Liberal. If I find something that is intriguing I will google it to see if any others outlets are picking up the story and see if it is the same or if they are adding to it. Some media will give critical information while others leave things out according to their own bias.

That is my strategy and it takes me all over the place.
NPR has been a big outlet that I used for the liberal side and that includes on the radio in the morning. I don't know of any Conservative news outlets on radio in the morning otherwise I would be giving them a listen as well.

This doesn't answer your question in specifics and it is a hard one to answer for me because do it by strategy or surfing rather than media unless an outlet is just BAD. i.e. charismasnews. I will read it but not taking much seriously there because it is alot of hype and deception there. It is a reason why it is called 'Charisma' tickles the emotions.

John

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TMK

All I know is that Christians are "hurt" because mainstream media hates them.

The mainstream media knows this.

Therefore the mainstream media will at times toss the conservatives/Christians a bone.

This makes Christians happy.

But the media is tricky. They are not sincere when they do this. For example, they will gush over a conservative political candidate (which makes conservatives and Christians happy) but the media's true purpose is to try to swing the conservative vote to a candidate who has no chance of beating the liberal contender. This happened after last debate with Carly Fiorina.

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DEADn

TMK

I hear you. The media have actually helped me develop critical thinking skills because I have come to realize they don't tell the whole story. Only what they want you to know so I go back to the interrogatives of journalism. Who, what, when, where, and why. Answer those questions and you begin to get a better picture of the story. Thus the reason I go back and forth between Liberal and Conservative sights. I do some of this in twitter. I sub to them and see stories come across.

I have noticed that media is quickly becoming out moral compass 'leaders'. Meaning they are quick to say someone is wrong or they don't agree with someone voicing opposition to something that is popular such as transgenderism, abortion, something in politics. A mantra is becoming 'It is happening anyway'= pop culture, the new moral compass and anyone who holds 'traditional values' is considered outdated and are out of touch with society.


I often believe Christians want to believe the best even if the best becomes a false story. We need to be slow to speak but speak with Grace while growing in Grace through Jesus Christ.

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dolfan

I don't find any of them credible. I read everything in the news through jaundiced eyes and full on cynicism. I am not Jesus but it does not take long in Him to be enough like Him that we can say we know what is in the hearts of men.

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sermonindex

Journalists have changed tremendously. Oftentimes you can quickly ascertain that they are in a specific political camp. And are not reporting the news in an unbiased manner.

So to me, all "Journalism" should be suspect today and I think it is by and far by many people. The Internet has revealed many things to us, and much to Journalism's chagrin, it has revealed to us their partisanship and dishonesty (which may have always existed). Reading people's comments on many articles you can see they have become more astute in their critical thinking skills. Another by product of deception journalism. We all have to be astute.

by dolfan on 2015/9/21 14:48:29

I don't find any of them credible. I read everything in the news through jaundiced eyes and full on cynicism. I am not Jesus but it does not take long in Him to be enough like Him that we can say we know what is in the hearts of men.

Big hearty amen to that, dolfan.

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DEADn

This just came across my newsfeed. I was amused because it was from WND. What do you think about this?


http://superstore.wnd.com/Welcome/CEPHER-2nd-Edition-Hardcover

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TMK

I want to read Acts 29.

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ginnyrose

John, what news service do you consider the most reliable? And how do you determine that?

Sandra

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DEADn

Sandra
I don't have any news service that I consider 100% reliable. What I do is practice the who, what, when, where, how and why of a story. Then I usually will take that story and cross reference it with out media outlets to see who is saying what about it.

Reason is because Liberals have their spin on it and sometimes it is true and sometimes it is false. Same with Conservatives, sometimes is it true but other times it is false or doesn't have all the facts.


Other times, if I want to understand more on a story, i.e. Kim Davis, I sit on it for a little while until more facts come out before I am make up my own mind as to what the truth is. Liberals will be against her while Conservatives will be for her. The question is why and is the pro side right and why, is the con side right and why.

It is easier to lean on more Conservative media for news but keep, in the back of your mind, are they telling you the entirety of the truth or is there something not being said?

I used Twitter as a feed for news stuff and I probably have more liberal outlets on it then I do Conservative outlets. I do that because I want to know what they are sqawking about and why they get so offended. Liberal media gets offended by everything anymore. I don't look at ABC, CBS, FOX OR NBC online. They are too mainstream. I like to read the things they don't talk about much.

One outlet I came across that is fascinating is one called the Federalist. It seems like it gives a good analysis on issues of the day.


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ginnyrose

Have you looked at christiannews.com?

sandra

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sermonindex

Sandra

I get most of my news from the Reve News service.
A service that that I always agree with

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sermonindex

Even the "who, what, when, where, how and why" of a story can be created by professional propaganda specialists.

John, here are some stories that are very controversial. How would you go about arriving at the truth? As an internet surfer or TV watcher, how do you go about arriving at the truth using the "who, what, when, where, how and why of a story?" Those elements seem to all be covered in these stories yet we know there is only one truth.

1) 9/11 carried out by Muslims or U.S. Government?
2) Bombing of Reichstag building carried out by Hitler's men or Communists?
3) Sandy Hook, hoax or not?
4) IRS conspired with White House to withhold tax exempt status from Tea Party groups or not?
5) U.S. Ambassador to Benghazi purposely abandoned by his own government or not?

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DEADn

I thought this might be an interesting read in regards to WND.

http://bereanresearch.org/hebrew-roots-about-that-cepher-bible/


Hebrew Roots: About that Cepher "Bible”
Posted By A. Spreeman on November 13, 2015 in Discernment 0
Cepher bible

Recently I’ve been seeing a lot of advertisements for The Cepher Bible, a new translation of sorts brought to you by WND, where editor Joseph Farah sells Cepher alongside The Harbinger, The Rabbi Who Found Jesus, the Mystery of the Shemitah and other questionable books.

WND is a source to mark and avoid for discerning Christians, as I discovered several years ago when I first learned that the site sponsored Sid Roth’s hour-long video tutorial on how to do the New Age Soaking prayer.

But with the growth of the dangerous Hebrew Roots Movement, there is concern that WND’s powerful readership numbers may be aiding and abetting false teachers to reach a whole new audience.

Christian Answers for the New Age author Marcia Montenegro recently alerted her readers:

WARNING ON HERETICAL BIBLE PROMOTED BY WND
The online Christian news source, WND (World Net Daily), is promoting the Cepher Bible. This is a "Bible” endorsed by the Hebrew Roots movement which has teachings denying the Trinity and in many cases, the deity of Christ. WND has long been setting its sail to the unsteady winds of the Hebrew Roots Movement, including WND owner Joseph Farah publicly stating that the now jailed Jim Staley is his pastor.

Marcia points to the addition of non-canonical books, as promoted by WND:

The Hebrew word eth (את) means divine and the Hebrew word cepher means book, scroll, letter or writing. Hence, the את CEPHER is the "Divine Book”. This unique collection restores much of what has been removed and/or incorrectly interpreted in the Bible for centuries!. As such, the Cepher 2nd Edition:

Ӣ Sets forth a translation, rather than a substitution, of the names of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

”¢ Includes all of the 74 previously canonized books, plus another 13 books considered to be inspired and/or historically significant such as Chanok (Enoch) & Yovheliym (Jubilees) from the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as Yashar (Jasher), 2-4 Ezra (Esdras), 1-2 Baruk, and 1-4 Makkabiym (Maccabees) ”“ all published in the chronological order of their writing.

Ӣ Transliterates over 3,100 Hebrew names without substitution.

Ӣ Restores an accurate chronological order to the books.
Ӣ Corrects the errors (for the first time) in the Song of Solomon, in Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 14, in Zakaryahu (Zechariah) 5, in Matthew 23, and corrects other notorious errors that are found in virtually all previous English translations.

”¢ Restores the 29th chapter of the Acts of the Apostles chronicling Paul’s journey to Spain. source

You’ll want to see just how dangerous the Hebrew Roots movement is. Check out these articles:

Torah Observance ”“ Opposing God, Following Blind Men
"What is the Hebrew Roots movement?”
More Dangers on The Sacred Name Movement/Hebrew Roots
The Hebrew Roots Cult
The Dangers of the Hebrew Roots Movement /The Sacred Name Movement
What is Messianic Judaism?
Should a Christian celebrate Hanukkah (Christmaskah)?

One highlight to note: The Cepher is including the Book of Jasher, which many Christians have never heard of. Biblical scholars don’t believe The Book of Jasher is authentic. Got Questions has more on The Book of Jasher

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Peter 2:1


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ginnyrose

I try hard to not to immerse myself in current events. I want to know what is going on, who did it and why. But it is hard to take a nonchalant attitude toward current events.

I remember well when JFK was assassinated and the following reports of Lee Harvey Oswald as being the trigger man - why the US gov said he did it! Today, I no longer believe that.

Another unsettling question: what triggered Adolph Hitler to go after the Jews? Remember only 6 million of the 11 million were Jews were killed during the holocaust. Why does one rarely hear the figure 11 million? But - why did he do it? Does this answer give us any insight to current events?

My point is that finding the truth in the secular news media is like looking for a needle is a haystack - ever seen a haystack? If you are looking for a sewing needle there you give up because the hay hides the needle for they look similar.

Even in comparing one news outlet with others, the reports are similar. At this point I still respect WORLD magazine...
Even in all this, I can see why Christians should not get involved in politics because of the deception inherent in it. Complex for sure. I am certain of one thing: if one were to know the full truth we would be astounded into utter silence.

But...I still want to know. SIGH

Sandra

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