Paris attacks: ISIS claims responsibility for gunfire, blasts that killed 128 people

Paris (CNN) ISIS claimed responsibility for gunfire and blasts that targeted six sites Friday night in Paris, killing 128 people in one of Europe's deadliest massacres in recent years.

In an online statement distributed by supporters Saturday, the terror group said eight militants wearing explosive belts and armed with machine guns attacked precisely selected areas in the French capital.

In addition to the people killed, 180 others were injured, according to the Paris Police Prefecture. More than half of them are in critical condition.
President Francois Hollande blamed the attacks on ISIS, calling it "an act of war" by the militants. He said it was planned from the outside -- "with inside complicity." ...

read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/14/world/paris-attacks/

okay...is that "persecution"?

or is it just the foul rotten fruit of jihadism?

so what next?

why did Jesus tell the disciples, ALL Jewish men, in the last days, to sell their cloaks and buy a sword?

(i'm NOT trying to start trouble brother, I am grieving, thinking of all those innocent souls just out a Friday night)

this is a NEW kind of operational attack, the mad dog ugly attack against very soft targets.

I guess maybe now the world will understand what it means to live in Israel.

Quote: "I guess maybe now the world will understand what it means to live in Israel."
This is the most inappropriate comment in this difficult time!
Please saints let's not use this tragedy to start one of those ungodly discussions again!

The comments we make here will be read around the world, may be they will be read by some of the victims of this horrible tragedy When they come to a Christian website they probably hope to find some comfort and hope etc. they hope to find find a bit of love.
May we pray for them, may we pray that some might hear of the Love of our Lord who died on the cross.

To all the people in Paris: i can not even imagine the suffering some of you are now going through, may I humbly give you a verse from the Scriptures;
The LORD is near to the brokenhearted And saves those who are crushed in spirit (Psalm 34:18)
Blessings, praying for you!

'could you please explain what you are implying by this ?'

no.

what profit would that be?

I read enough anti-Israel palaver on this site in the last weeks, to realize there is no profit to gain from such discourse.

take what you want from what I wrote.

you wrote:

"Quote: "I guess maybe now the world will understand what it means to live in Israel."
This is the most inappropriate comment in this difficult time!"

what is inappropriate about that statement of fact?, for almost 70 years, Jews living in Israel have had to contend DAILY with what happened last night in Paris....and much much worse. so i'm at loss why you deemed such as "inappropriate".

and if we want to cast about what is "ungodly" on the this forum's discourse......I could forespeak very clearly on that matter.....but there is little profit.

"what is inappropriate about that statement"
The timing is inappropriate. - "in this difficult time"

I read several posts on a secular news site and most of the posters were expressing sympathy and concern for the bereaved. .

This is from social medias;
"Thoughts and prayers and love are with people in Paris tonight..."
"Just heard about Paris, praying for you all right now"
"Guys, it's time to #PrayForParis right now."

Sad if we have to learn this from the world

further discussion out of me is a non starter, as you assume much of the heartsteps of my soul, and the incense of my prayers

anoint yourselves all for burial, the storm is on the horizon.

Brothers and sisters I agree. The people of Paris need our prayers right now. If I remember correctly they in Paris were praying for us during 911. Let us keep them in our thoughts and prayers. For this tragically is there 911.

And let us remember we are not immune to such attacks. I think we would want to have the world praying for us should such occur on this soil. So again let us keep those in France in our prayers.

Blaine

(Chris, though you cannot "hear" my voice, be assured that is calm, measured, and NON adversarial. YOU I will discourse with, and though some of what I write might seem, on the surface "adversarial", they are only operational disagreements, and NOT a "slam" on you. Though it might SEEM this post is written "in the flesh", or of and in the "world", God gave me a skill, a "gift" at a very early age, which can be a blessing and a curse, so let unspool, what I have to share with you..okay?....)

this will be a two part post, because right now, its zero dark hundred....I awoke at midnight, and have MANY house chores to do, so I will just share a few things with you now, because you wrote this:

" I know that it is unpopular among some believers, but I do believe that the modern state of Israel is a central player in Biblical prophecy."

as we might have discussed before, you are aware that I probably am the youngest person to go thru the DoD's DLI school, in the Korean language, and the youngest to hold a TS/Codeword clearance.

After several years, probably the most tense years in Korea, since the war, this would be during President Carters tenure, you are well aware, he made a decision, later reversed, thru our "product" delivered daily to the President. The prior decision he made was to withdrawal the last combat division on the Korean peninsula, the 2nd ID, which was precisely the wrong message to give the DPRK. My last year, I was sent back the base to in Maryland, that sits aside an alphabet agency I wont name, but I know you know.

This was 1980, and without detail, let me just say, I did not appreciate either the "culture" there, nor what was happening "under the covers"....that's all i'll say, so when my four years were up, I took my honorable discharge. Since the age of 7, it had been in my heart to emigrate to Israel anyway, i'll get into that into later.

Within the American defense/intel establishment there are only three men I have any respect and admiration for; Colin Powell (who fell on the grenade at the UN when ordered to by POTUS) Admiral "Fox" Fallon (google fallon esquire, and read the first entry, the Admiral was once CENTCOM CO) and Richard Clarke, who was the only high ranking official to apologize PUBLICALLY for the failure of the "community" to stop the attacks on 11 Sep 2001...such abasement is what a REAL MAN does..

now I want to link you to an interview Richard Clarke gave to a pair of youthful alt media journalists about some of the events on 11 Sep 2001, this is NO "conspiracy" theory, its just the CounterTerr head at the WH, telling what he knew and what he didn't know, Dick Clarke served under 4 presidents, both Dem/Repub as you know (brother Greg, i'm not trying to be rebellious, I just want Chris to see this, when he does, I will be happy to excise it...there is nothing untoward IN the clip, just some truth about what this leader knew and didn't know)
only 14,000 people have seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzP9YJpBubk

as far as your in class thesis, you are more correct than you know. I want to buy a fictional book, "Day of Wrath", about an attack the author spools out that is absolutely horrendous, it will buttress EXACTLY your thesis.

the ONLY comfort is this; the arabs don't have the operational capability to pull off a LARGE scale coordinated attack as posited in this tome, if they did, the tragic events in Paris would be 10 times greater....or after 9/11, if it was as advertised, they would have had B, C, D, E, F attacks already to go. One doesn't play chess only one move ahead, you think 6 moves forward, obviously they don't

and lastly this morning, rent or purchase the film "Body of Lies" (2009) This film is the closet you will come to what really happens in the ME...its not boring, its quite illuminating.....youtube the trailer, trust me though, you will WANT to see this.

i'm weary and next post i'll testify where God has told me this all is leading to, which is about two steps away from global war.

God love you richly, neil

Father my heart grieves over this tragedy that took place in Paris. Blessed God I pray your comfort to be upon those that have lost loved ones and friends in these attacks. I pray that in the midst of this tragedy those who do not know Jesus will find him. I pray that they will find the comfort that He offers in the midst of trials. Father I pray that as a result of this tragedy there will be a mighty prayer movement that will awaken in France. I pray dear God for revival to come about in that nation because of this tragedy. Father I pray that out of tragedy you bring the triumph of Christ over Paris and over France. Awaken your faith bride remnant in France to cry out for souls in their nation. Our God and King we await to hear your report of souls coming to the Lord Jesus Christ because of this prayer. For I ask this in Jesus name. Amen.

Good post Chris, you write..........

"I am not sure how Islam plays in Biblical prophecy. I have read things that try to indicate the role that the writer feels that Islam will play in the last days; however, I just can't guess with any sort of certainty the role that Islam will play. I sort of think that the Antichrist will either try to merge religions together under a single false messiah or Islam will largely diminish in terms of fundamental adherence by the time the Antichrist takes control. Then again, the Antichrist might gain power by destroying forces of Islam that threaten Israel. These, of course, are little more than conjecture. I know that it is unpopular among some believers, but I do believe that the modern state of Israel is a central player in Biblical prophecy."

Chris, I believe two of your conjectures to be true. I see the emergence already of the great whore church where all three monotheistic religions combine. Islam, Christianity and Judaism. When that happens I believe all " fundamentalists," will be crushed. The real target will be genuine saints, but under the auspices of the anti-christ fundamentalism will be crushed and the world will cheer as " peace," is restored to a chaotic world. The leaders of these three religions will point out to the world that they actually have one common God and one founding father, Abraham. We are already headed there slowly and surely, yet some kind of cataclysmic event or events could get us there quicker, but the most important part is already in place, the mindset of the people............bro Frank

Christopher wrote: "The real enemy, after all, is not Islamic fundamentalists but "against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12). "

Good biblical point!
In 1 John 5:19 we read: "and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one."
Matthew Henry writes:
"All mankind are divided into two parties or dominions; that which belongs to God, and that which belongs to the wicked one. True believers belong to God: they are of God, and from him, and to him, and for him; while the rest, by far the greater number, are in the power of the wicked one; they do his works, and support his cause This general declaration includes all unbelievers, whatever their profession, station, or situation, or by whatever name they may be called

Happy are those to whom it is given to know that the Son of God is come, and to have a heart to trust in and rely on him that is true!
To this living and true God, be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."

May we not stop to pray that many more people experience the only answer, Jesus the Son of the living God, the Light of the world in these dark days.

I do agree that our enemy is the devil. And he will use any number of avenues to wreak his evil upon the world. But at the risk of being accused of Islamophobia. I must wonder about the rise of Islam particularly in Europe.

I recently watched a YouTube video which shows the declining birth rates of the traditional European population. And the rise of Islam through immigration. Bear in mind this video was put out about 5 or 6 years ago. Even then the information was quite disturbing. Muslim leaders in the Middle East were making statements that Europe would be considered and Islamic continent somewhere around 2050.

Bearin mind now the current immigration crisis coming out of Syria and Iraq. As well as from other Middle Eastern countries. It is estimated that by the end of 2016 the number of Muslim refugees will reach well over 1 million. Another thing to note most of the refugees coming into Europe are not families. But they are men.

There are concerns that ISIS is embedding jihadists among the refugees. Given what has happened in Paris one begins to wonder.

YouTube videos show Muslim men who came to Germany as refugees running through the streets of various communities. They shout slogans such as give us money. And we will impregnate your women. Again one begins to wonder.

The declining rates of traditional populations are not just confined to Europe. But even here in North America. It 1970 it was estimated that there were only a few hundred thousand Muslims. By 2015 the number has risen to I believe over 9 million. Again I could be off on these figures. But demographers have shone through statistical models that Muslims will become the dominant population in America by around 2050 if not earlier.

It could be argued that Muslims are immigrating to Europe and America for a better life. Several years ago this might have been true. But now the Islamic agenda may have a motive of conquest. But not necessarily conquest through force. But conquest through increased birth rates to take over a nation or continent.

In times past I would have dismissed this as a conservative right wing plot. But statistical models born out by recent events would suggest that Islam has an agenda of world domination.

I do not know how specifically Islam will play into the end time events. But I do not believe that we can discount the rising tide of Islam and not say it will not have a significant place to play in the close out of redemptive history.

Simply my thoughts from the bear cave on a rainy fall morning.

Bearmaster.

Paul was certainly prophetic when he wrote to the Thessalonians. He said in the final days they will be saying peace and safety. Then destruction will come upon them suddenly as a woman with labor pains. If the Islamic attacks continue to increase this is what people will be crying out for, peace and safety.

This is what happened after 9/11. As a result of the terrorist attacks. Patriot Act one and two were passed. The result was supposedly more security for the homeland. But American citizens were giving up some of their freedom. Anyone who spoke out against the acts were labeled as friends of the terrorists.

I can see how a political leader could emerge. The idea of a law abiding citizen having some type of a chip implanted on their right hand or forehead to show loyalty to the state. After all if you're a good law abiding citizen why would you resist such a thing. I'm sure the terrorist attacks will be used ultimately to enforce more control over those who are law-abiding. Under the guise of providing them security.

Brothers simply my thoughts.

David I do agree with your assessment. At this point I don't profess to have a solution to the immigration issue. I am aware of that Obama wants to bring in 10,000 Syrians into this country. And the FBI says they don't have the resources to vet them as quickly as Obama wants. I believe he wants to fast track them and get them in here in 4 months. I was just listening to the news that one of the attackers in Paris probably used a passport and pass himself off as a refugee from Syria. Hence the concern for the Syrians coming into this nation.

There are several state governors who have said they will not accept Syrians. Probably because they cannot be vetted. I can't say I blame them.

On the other hand the State Department has said that they will not grant refugee status to the Christians who have been victimized by ISIS. The Obama administration does not recognize Christiane being persecuted by ISIS as refugees. Yet these are the ones who would not be coming in as your jihadists. But would assimilate into American society. Work and pay taxes. But for some reason the president favors Muslims over Christiane. Sure does bring out the conspiratorial side of me. Ok don't want to violate the SI Guidelines:):).

Anyway just a few thoughts.

As Paul rejected false gospels we must reject them.

The only distinguishing mark of a genuine Christian is the manifestation of the life and character of Jesus Christ in their life. The mark of a true Christian is not the mark of outward circumcision, but a circumcision of the heart and a sealing of the Holy Spirit. A Christian has no mark of racial superiority, exclusive religious group they belong to or nationalistic heritage. They are not marked by outward religious appearance or practices. The Christian has no need of these marks which are not becoming of a child of God, partaker of grace and an ambassador of Jesus Christ.

On the other hand, the mark of religious Babylon, the Great whore is on many people. This is the mark of the Beast and this distinguishing mark reflects the character and nature of Satan as it is a mark that is known by external appearance, a form of godliness, division, exclusivity, pride and boastfulness, love of money and a competitive accumulation of disciples as it competes with other religious structures and perpetuates disunity.

People have been used as pawns and trophies by the religious system for millenia as they "desire to make a good showing in the flesh" (Gal 6:12). Paul fought this false gospel in Galatia and noted that "they desire to have you circumcised (marked) that they may boast in your flesh". The Judaizers were not seeking the best interests of the Galatian Christians, but they were only looking for self-serving bragging rights and salvaging their religious system.

If you are looking for a mark, don't look for it from the world. Look to religious Babylon. Look to the religionists.

Paul knew what the mark of the beast of religion looked like. And he knows what the mark of Jesus Christ is, too. And he fought those who attempted to mark the true disciples with the corrupt mark of religious bondage through false gospels, causing them to fall from grace. (Gal 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus)

Outward conformity is important to religion. Religion is about morals and belief systems and their followers are identified by what they do with their "hands" regarding their "moral" activity and by what belief systems they give their thoughts (heads) to. Religion is also about men, personalities (other than the Person of Jesus Christ). Religion has branded and stamped (marked) their followers and marks everything they think and do. Those who do not conform are ostracized economically and socially.

Christians that have fallen from grace and are walking by sight and not faith are no longer looking for a City whose builder and maker is God, but are looking for a physical city (religious structure) as they have been marked by religious Babylon.

Funny, how we are a spiritual people, inheriting a spiritual kingdom, serving a spiritual King, fighting spiritual battles, but religious Babylon is all about the physical and does not want people to glimpse the spiritual.

Brothers to hold to the notion that the mark is physical does not take away from a spiritual understanding of the book of Revelation. When John writes that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark would certainly imply something physical. Yet as our brother Chris said we see through a glass darkly. We certainly do not have the vantage point that John had. But one thing we can be sure of. Jesus reigns. And Jesus will win. That we can be sure of.

Brothers simply my thoughts.

Blaine

Satan's mark is indeed physical, meaning it manifests for all to see (Matt 7:15-20). Likewise the "mark of Christ" manifests for all to see. Most all of Satan's counterfeits are physical in manifestation, though you need spiritual discernment to tell them apart from the "marks" of God. Most people seem to be deceived because they are always looking for something in the physical and Satan knows this and will give them what they seek. Satan seeks to duplicate all the spiritual things of God as he desires all people to worship ("abide in") him. All these counterfeits are geared to turning men away from Christ and walking by faith and towards him or his "ambassadors" and walking by sight.

The purpose of the Church is to manifest the Kingdom of God, not a worldly kingdom. Satan's counterfeit is to manifest a worldly kingdom. His counterfeits of the spiritual are indeed physical. The only relevance that the world knows is that which it can see and when the Church seeks to be relevant to the world, it has lost it's power and accepted the counterfeits of Satan. Little by little as the "frog in the water", the Church will accept the counterfeits of Satan in order to be relevant to the world and avoid persecution. Notice that Satan does not counterfeit the world, he counterfeits the things of God, for he still desires all men to worship him.

False Messiah (Matt 24:24)
False Spirit (1 John 4:1)
False Apostles (Matt 24:24)
False Brethren (Gal 2:4, 2 Cor 11:26)
False Teachers (2 Pet 2:1)
False Mediator (Jesus: the Better Divine-Human High Priest Hebrews - 4:14 ­ 5:10, 7:20-28, 8:6)
False Doctrine (Eph 4:14)
False Gospel (Gal 1:8)
False Salvation (Gal 3:10-11)
False Savior (Jesus: the Better Man for Mankind Hebrews 2:5-18)
False Church (Romans 16:17-18)
False Access to God (Jesus: The Better Way of Access to God Hebrews 10:19-39)
False Gifts (2 Tim 3:13)
False Builders of the Church (1 Cor 3:10-11)
False Head of the Church (Christ is the true Head - Eph 4:15)
False Endurance and Faithfulness (Jesus: The Better Example of Faithful Endurance Hebrews 12:1-13)
False Works (Act 15:24, 28)
False Mark (of Christ) (Jude 1:4)
False New Birth (baptism unto salvation)
False Love (disingenuous) (1 Pet 1:22, 3 Jn 1:9-10)
False Joy (laughing revivals) (Acts 13:52, Eph 5:18))
False Giving (Acts 5:3, 2 Cor 9:7)
False Worship (Rom 1:25, Rev 19:20, Rev 7:11)
False Rest (Jesus: the Better Rest of God Hebrews 4:1-13)
False Signs and Wonders (Mark 13:22, 2Th 2:9)
False Righteousness (James 1:22)
False Holiness (Jesus: The Better Example of Holiness and Worship Hebrews 12:14-29)
False Character (Matt 7:15-20)
False Suffering (Jesus: The Better Example of Suffering and Bearing Reproach Hebrews 13:1-25)
False Prophecy (Jer 14:14, 2 Pet 1:20)
False Country (Jesus: The Better Country Hebrews 11:6)
False City (Gal 4:26, Rev 21:2,10)
False Angels (Gal 1:8)
False Hope of Promises (Jesus: the Better Hope of Inheriting the Promises of God Hebrews 5:11 - 6:20)
False Hope (Jesus: The Better Hope of Man Hebrews 7:19)
False Ground of Faithfulness (Jesus: the Better Ground of Faithfulness Hebrews 3:1-19)
False Promises (Jesus: The Minister of Better Promises Hebrews 8:6, 11:1-40)
False Covenant (Jesus the Better Testament Hebrews 7:22)
False Revelation (Jesus: the Better Revelation of God Hebrews 1:1-4)
False Sacrifice (Jesus: The Better Sacrifice for Forgiveness Hebrews 9:23)

(There are many more. Please feel free to add to this list.)

Jesus gave the key mark as to how one would be able to distinguish true Christians from false ones. He said, "Ye shall know them by their fruits.” (Matt 7:16,20; John 7:24). They will manifest the character and nature of Christ.

The false mark will manifest the character and nature of Satan.

Because Satan is obsessed with counterfeiting the things of God, I believe we should not deviate on the "mark of Satan" and look to the world for the counterfeit "mark of Christ". I believe Hagee, LaHaye and Lindsay have "missed the mark". Satan gives us what we want to see. David Wilkerson wrote a book on that. And you might want to listen to Milton Green's "The Mark of Satan and the Mark of Christ". It is on Sermonindex.

(Blood Covenant) The Mark of God or The Mark of the Beast - 1
https://ia600801.us.archive.org/30/items/SERMONINDEX_SID12168/SID12168.mp3

Brothers I ask you did not Jesus give us physical signs in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 to precede His return? A casual reading of Matthew 24 speak of the increase of wars, famines, earthquakes, persecutions, and so forth. It would be very hard to spiritualize these passages. Jesus gave very definite physical signs of His return. Thus it does not leave it hard to one's imagination that the mark could very well be a physical Mark.

Brothers simply my thoughts.

Yes, Bear, the Lord gave us physical signs and He gave us spiritual signs, too. Also, the Bible uses symbolic language to communicate spiritual realities. Types, metaphors, imagery, etc.

I just don't believe the "mark of the beast", is a computer chip. That's too obvious.

There are two people on earth right now. People under the rule of Christ and people under the rule of Satan. Saints and sinners. These both have the "mark" of their father on them, already.