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Peace, I’m out.

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Oracio

Dear SI forum members, in the past few weeks or months I have noticed that many of the threads that I have either started or participated in have gotten a bit heated and they’ve been locked, and it seems it’s been at least partly due to my posts. I feel that there are quite a few here who would prefer to see me leave due to certain stances I take on certain issues. I feel that I should take all this as a queue that at this time it is not wise for me to continue to try to participate here. I’m thinking that maybe for me, as has been pointed out indirectly, participation in this forum is a distraction from God’s perfect will for me at this time.

Just want to say it’s been a blessing to interact here on and off for the past several years since I joined. I wish everyone well in the Lord.

Sincerely,
Oracio

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TMK

I think you should reconsider. Otherwise who am I going to argue with?

All kidding aside, I appreciate your viewpoints. The body of Christ is like the light spectrum; it is made up of reds and purples and blues and all shades in between. But each need to be expressed to have the light God intended.

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good.

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Oracio I know we've had our differences on threads. My brother I would urge you to reconsider. Your viewpoint is just as much needed on this forum as mine is.

Even if we do not see eye to eye on some things. I respect your convictions that are based out of the word. And for sure I would rather see a brother with definite convictions. Then a brother who is wishy washy. At least one knows where you stand on things.

Ultimately the thing that we do agree on is that Jesus is Lord. But again brother. If you feel you must leave them do what the Spirit lays on your heart. Sometimes the forum may be for a season. I am thinking. Or have been curtailing my own activity here. But if you do leave let it be the Lord's leading and not what people think of you.

Whatever you decide brother I wish you the best. But I would urge you to reconsider your decision before the Lord.

Your brother in Christ,

Blaine

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dfella

Oracio,

I also agree with Blaine and Todd for you to please reconsider as I value your input and you have nothing to be ashamed of concerning your convictions and faithfulness to what you know to be true.

I do bear witness with much of what you say and share. If there is ever a disagreement I would prefer to take it to you privately if the Lord would lead as sharing some things publicly does not edify but rather gender strife and division.

So do please reconsider and if you are indeed being led to leave I trust the Lord to go with you.

Brother Dave

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JFW

Yeah Brother Oracio,
I concur with Todd,Blaine and David.... Tho I will say I have noticed you have been a bit dif over the past month or so and I'm not sure what it is about but I have been praying and lifting you up to the Father.

And if I don't get the chance at some later date,... your mom gave you one of the coolest names bro! I mean I kno this may sound silly to you but I just like saying it out loud:) I even told my wife!

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I am sure when we are locked into the same concentration camp holding that we will be able to work things out pretty quickly. May God give grace for us as believers to find the unity of the spirit not under such pressures.

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I will miss you, Oracio. I know it can be very tough on this "Internet street corner", at times. Your viewpoint and good heart are a light in the darkness. I suspect proudpapa has left too, probably for similar reasons. You know how to contact me. Drop me a line sometime when you get a chance. I'll try not to be a stranger, too. May the Lord bless you and strengthen you for the journey ahead.

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sermonindex

What a surprise !
I appreciated your inputs and your strong desire to stay firm and to serve the Lord .
Please re consider and give us some godly inputs every now and again.

edited:one thing I learnt in my many years as a Christian is not to get too "dogmatic " and too involved with non-essential views.
Eg I disagree with Julius' views about the Church in the Wilderness etc but I immediately stepped back and didn't get further involved.

Greg mentioned the concentration camp. C T Boom said in one of her Sermons that they didn't discuss all the different views about the second coming. Under such extreme situations they had to focus on the most important parts, that the Lord is risen indeed, He is all powerful, salvation is only through Him, may He be Glorified etc.

Just thought I'd share a bit more

Blessings

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dolfan

Love you O.

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sermonindex

God Bless you!

Appreciate the commitment to the Word & holiness, at least in some of what I have seen.

Neil: "good"? Really? You might should check your heart friend honestly. Or stay off the "opium paste".

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Oracio

Thank you so much all for all your encouragement. I guess I underestimated the amount of brethren who did not desire my departure. You guys almost convinced me to reconsider :).

JFW wrote:

I concur with Todd,Blaine and David.... Tho I will say I have noticed you have been a bit dif over the past month or so and I'm not sure what it is about but I have been praying and lifting you up to the Father.

Yeah, I think I have allowed myself to become a bit discouraged lately and it has come out in my posts here. If I find the time soon I may share my heart on certain things I've been going through.

Edit: thanks for the prayers!

And if I don't get the chance at some later date,... your mom gave you one of the coolest names bro! I mean I kno this may sound silly to you but I just like saying it out loud:) I even told my wife!

Thanks! It's definitely not too often that someone compliments me on that (maybe only one or two other times in my whole life lol). In case you're interested, this is the English pronunciation of it: Oh-raw-see-oh. Probably the most common mispronunciation of it I hear is Oh-ray-shee-oh.

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Please stay? You are a blessing to many. There are a lot of hearts and voices out there I wish would come back.

:-)))

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JFW

Brother Oracio,

Tho this may seem insensitive (don't mean it to be) and running the risk of coming off presumptuous and maybe even a lil crazy I'm gonna share what's on my heart for you- while this isn't a "Thus sayeth the Lord"... I do believe it's from Him and I hope the love and compassion I feel for you where you're at isn't lost in translation.

Bro, you are in a great place right now! The Lord was not surprised by this and is growing you/conforming you ever so much more into the image of His son. These distresses are most likely His.... and because you're willing to share in His sorrow you get the amazing privilege of seeing what He sees and feeling what He feels. Everyone wants to share in the joy of a friend but very few desire to share in their sorrow. I would say that if you went back in your memory and recalled your prayer life, you even asked for this. Maybe in a time when you were pressing in, hungry and thirsting after a deeper revelation of His righteousness you asked for more and if that's the case, dear brother rejoice! For the Lord has found you faithful and willing. I don't mean to pretend to know what's going on but I would say that what's round the corner is more glorious than you have probably imagined.

1 Peter 1:
5 who by God's power are protected through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 This brings you great joy, although you may have to suffer for a short time in various trials.
7 Such trials show the proven character of your faith, which is much more valuable than gold - gold that is tested by fire, even though it is passing away - and will bring praise and glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.
8 You have not seen him, but you love him. You do not see him now but you believe in him, and so you rejoice with an indescribable and glorious joy,
9 because you are attaining the goal of your faith - the salvation of your souls

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Oracio

Thank you brother JFW for that encouragement, and thank you again Julius and everyone else. You brothers are too kind.

Okay, so lately I’ve been going through discouragement in my walk for a few different reasons, and I would appreciate the prayers of any brethren who feel led to pray for me regarding these things. One trial I’ve been experiencing is in my marriage. My wife and I have been married for almost 10 years and we have two little ones. In the past she has been unfaithful and has habitually lied about many things and has gotten drunk and has done some foolish and dangerous things while drunk which I do not want to post about in detail publicly for certain reasons. I am convinced that over the years she has been deceived by a certain kind of message within Christendom which says one can be a saved Christian while indulging in sin without repentance (without confessing and forsaking sin). Lately she has shown a bit more humility and trustworthiness than in the past and it seems that it’s possible that God has been working in her heart in conviction of sin, which is encouraging. But there have been many deep wounds in my heart and it’s still hard for me to fully trust her. So that’s one trial I’ve been going through. And that’s one reason why I am so deeply against that type of message which deceives many professing Christians into thinking they can be saved while holding on to their wicked ways. I have seen this message be the ruin of many precious souls that I personally know.

Another trial is in terms of fellowship with other like-minded believers. As I consider my surrounding area, I do not know of any churches nearby where I can safely say I would "fit in” without eventually being unwelcome once they know where I stand on certain doctrinal and practical issues. I see many churches that are compromising in many areas of both doctrine and practice which I deem to be crucial. Many churches teach this easy-believism message, and many are compromising with homosexuality and apostatizing. And many are more like a social club than a true church. I have tried doing house church in my home but that didn’t work for me either due to my wife not being fully supportive of it and due to not finding others who were really that interested. Currently I’ve been attending a Baptist church that is about 20 miles away in another city. It’s a pretty decent, solid church to me. However, I cannot get too close there because I hold to Amillennialism and Baptist Covenant Theology and they hold to Dispensational Premillennialism. Also, while this church is pretty solid in many ways, it too seems like another social club, as there is no evangelism team that goes out to reach the lost with the gospel but instead there are many programs within the building only.

Which brings me to another trial in the area of evangelism. In the past I’ve had quite a few like-minded believers I’ve been able to team up with to go out and share the gospel, but lately that has not been the case so I’ve had to go out alone a lot. Also, in getting out there I’ve run across many professing Christians who have been deceived by the easy-believism message, some who've protested against my sharing while being under the influence of alcohol.

Lately I was aware of a new superhero movie that came out which many Christians seem to be flocking to. This new movie has all the wicked things in it which I mentioned in the thread I started on that topic (nudity, cursing, blasphemy, etc). I first shared that post on my facebook page. I was aware of at least one professing Christian on my friends list that was planning on seeing that movie. This person also drinks beer and enjoys Satanic heavy metal music, and he works at a parachurch organization and attends an apostate emergent church. I have approached this person privately to warn and exhort him concerning his relationship with God but he has not heeded anything I’ve shared but has only gotten angry with me and has considered me a legalist. The sad thing is that some whom I consider to be true believers have come out in his defense and have too considered me to be a legalist for calling him out on those kinds of things. It seems that many true Christians would rather defend those who practice those kinds of things rather than defend those who take a stand against those things. So after I shared that post on my facebook I figured I’d also share it here on SI in case there might be any who read the forums who needed to hear that warning.

So the bottom line is that I’ve been going through sort of a dry season in my walk with discouragement in those and other areas. Thanks again for all the encouragement and thanks in advance for your prayers for me.

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JFW

Ok yeah that is some heavy stuff and without going into a discourse, there is a definite parallel between what you are experiencing with your bride and what the Lord is experiencing with His bride (the church) so again you're getting to experience His grief as He also shares in/relates to yours.

Having said that I'd like to share with you what has been shared with me- this may seem a bit strange in the context of a public forum but I really hold fast to 1 John 1:7 so here it goes...

Brother Oracio, do you believe that God can fix this-
Yes or no?
(assuming you'd say yes)

Do you believe He will fix this if you ask Him to-
Yes or no?
(assuming you'd say you have been asking for years but yes Jesus says whatever we ask in His name His Father will do- we know it has to be his will but we also know the scriptures say He desires none to perish but all to come unto repentance so... Yes)

Now this is where it gets real,...

Do you believe He already has?
Jesus said, "IT IS FINISHED"
So if we believe that to be definitive then we will walk in faith regarding what has already been done and become partakers of His divine nature as we rest in the victory that He has already won for us:)
He says to speak things that aren't as tho they were,... And we (as husbands) are to wash and cleanse our wives with the word daily and present them to ourselves without spot or blemish. We are not moved by what we see but by faith in what we believe, and you my dear brother are a blood bought believer who is full of faith:)))
3 things come to mind as I'm writing this-
1. remember that she is His daughter first and your wife second (I struggle with this one)
2. She (and I mean this respectfully) doesn't sound like she feels worthy of love
3. I pray that He will teach you to love her the way she needs to be loved so she can know/believe and find comfort in it (I struggle here too)

So FTR I have a similar situation where my wife moved 9 hrs away taking 4 of our 6 kids and the dog with her, and at the time believed God was leading her to do this.... Needless to say this wrecked me as I live a very public life and there was nowhere to hide. But over the past couple of years the Lord has really grown me, taking me, breaking me, molding me- all whole showing Himself faithFULL and while I can def relate to your frustrations and at times I question the wisdom of it all,... But in the end it's not about me and what I get from her but who He is and what I can give for her. I really experienced a major shift when I quit asking Him to fix her and started asking Him to fix me~

Hope this helps bro, at least to know you're not alone in this-
Oh and yeah I was pronunciating your name wrong but down in Alabama we kinda do that to everything- but it's still a great name!

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Oracio

Thanks JFW, that does help a lot! Will definitely take it to heart; the part that sticks out he most is the one about asking the Lord to change me first.
And it's perfectly fine about the name pronunciation, just don't call me late for breakfast (I like breakfast more than dinner).

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sermonindex

Oracio, I gotta confess I was pronouncing your name wrong, too. But, like Alabama, we kinda butcher things in the Lone Star State, too. We butcher hogs real good, too and you would love the barbecue down here. The best in the Union (if I do say so myself). ;-)

I know one thing, I was really moved by yours and JFW's story and the mutual encouraging you have allowed me and others to share in. I sensed the life of Christ in your sharing (like the broken alabaster bottle of ointment). Thank you brothers for being vulnerable and you and your families will surely be in my prayers.

I leave you with my small offering and hope you get some time to spend on this site. It is a very encouraging site for anyone who is married, no matter where they are at in their marriage. It really is a blessing!

https://www.rejoiceministries.org/standing-firm-men-devotional/


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Neil: "good"? Really? You might should check your heart friend honestly. Or stay off the "opium paste".

you speak wrong, and ironically mentioning "check your heart", well the doctors here did just that....physically, today, as I write this from my hospital room...heart surgery, as they operated, I made everything laugh, because death has no hold on me, I was released from the bondage of the FEAR of death, a few years back.

what I was NOT released from was speaking the truth in my heart. Oracio writes that God has convicted him or impelled him to forgo posting on this forum...I wrote "good"....simple and succinct. Nothing more. God spoke to him, he SAID he was going to obey, and obedience to God is "good".

Now I, post mortem,read every single post in that terrible thread about Peyton Mannings beer, trying to discern where and how and why it went so terribly WRONG....just an abysmal witness, and I noticed that in the beginning Oracio played a key role in whipping up JUDGEMENT.....and now you follow suit with your snide accusation:

" Or stay off the "opium paste". "

you should ashamed of yourself, but it doesn't surprise me.

This once anointed forum DEDICATED to REVIVAL, imploring God for REVIVAL, has just become an echo chamber for religionists with too much time on their hands, and hidden bile in their hearts.

If Oracio REALLY wanted to give posting a break, he would have just done so without a grand dramatic announcement, followed by the ear tickling "please don't" posts, which probably stoked his religious pride, which were then followed by him writing an even longer post, which included him so unmanfully denigrating his wife, ...and it occurred to me, since he spends an awful lot of time posting, instead of loving, and listening to his wife, which is REAL worship to God, something is dreadfully amiss.

What man would speak ill of his wife on a public forum, and still call himself a "man"?...yet alone a Godly man?...and you Jeff have the gall to tell me to "check your heart"?

hypocrisy at its darkest depths.

This forum should shut down for a week of individusl prayer, fasting and personal work to spend time ALONE with the LORD,and REALLY search if OUR burden is Revival, or if its just to have a nice and cozy religious cyber haunt to feel superior to the "lost" and "apostate".

i'm weary, my body has been cut into today but I have MUCH MORE to say.

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http://askdrbrown.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Are-You-Afraid-of-Revival.mp3

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Oracio

Neil, the reason I started this thread is because I felt it was only right that I say goodbye instead of just disappearing for good and having certain brethren wonder what ever happened to me.

Regarding my marriage, I felt led to share about that trial here for two main reasons. One, in hopes of obtaining prayer for her and myself. Two, to share why I have such a deep disgust for the false gospel of hyper grace which denies repentance as being necessary for salvation.

You sir, are one of the main reasons I'm leaving this forum. It seems you have such a deeply ingrained hatred for me that you cannot help but attack me at every chance you get. A while back in one of the threads on Israel you seemed to have a softened heart toward me despite our disagreement on that topic. Then suddenly out of the blue you began attacking me left and right.

You win Neil, you got what you wanted. You got brother Greg to side with you against me.

I do fear for your soul because you hate me over non-essential issues such as my stance on Israel, and because I take a stance on the Word of God against drunkenness and other vile sins which are common in the modern "church".

"If someone says, "I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also."-1 John 4:20-21

This will be my last post in this thread.

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God Bless you. I can relate with much of what you shared.

Be encouraged though that God is in control. Follow the lamb whithersoever he goeth & know that God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we could ask or imagine in so many areas, including & especially our families.

I have seen it myself. Let me encourage you to keep praying, asking the Lord, praying & Finding mature, solid, grounded fellowship with like minded brethren. Sounds like you don't need to be running a home church right now, but praying about solid brethren you can fellowship with & be ministered to in these things also.

I prayed to that ends years ago & the Lord led me to pick up my family and move hundreds of miles away for it (& leave Texas, which few Texans ever do. willingly anyways. ☺️). But God is faithful. He saved my wife (who was a false convert & God Himslef revealed it to her, saved my oldest son, & is & has been helping me be a better husband, father, etc. though not perfect by far, certainly not where I was at all!).

So all that to say, keep looking up & trusting & believing & earnestly desiring REAL fellowship (the bride can't "play church" anymore - with an honest & a non-critical, non-proud heart, it actually makes me nauxious. And I believe Jesus said lukewarm harlotry makes Him sick too in His letter to the Laodiceans in Revelation 3. That's why those filled with & submitted to His Spirit feel the same way!

God Bless!

And Neil, if I misunderstood your "good", I apologize. May God use your heart situation to show you whatever it is He is trying to show you - He is Soveriegn after all, & He speaks through all things - Romans 8:28. Just kidding about the opium paste. It was your "joke" you brought up. I figured if you could give it, then you could take it (a joke). Anyways, my bad, sorry.

God Bless - Jeff

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davidkeel

Would be nice if you stayed around here Oracio.

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savannah


I Believe and confess the following;

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself up for it; Eph. 5:25

The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Mark 2:27

1Cor 7:15,16
If the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace. For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?

I'm also persuaded that -

Marriage was made for man and not man for marriage.

To attempt to heap guilt upon a man or a woman for their marriage problems by some accusation of a biblical command he/she has failed to do, whether it's true or not true, is the work of the devil.

Let the reader put put it all together, and may His Holy Spirit teach and convict.

OH that the God of all grace might comfort those in a difficult marriage relationship, and that He might even heal such. Amen.

From one who is no stranger to heartache,sorrow,and grief.

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There is no where anywhere, on this forum, or in my heart where I write state or think "i hate Oracio". in fact, I don't even USE the word, "hate", as I believe it is the name of a demon.

lets get that VERY CLEAR right from the go, I speak the truth in Christ, I hate no man, and for you to imply, nay accuse me of this, would make you a liar.

What you and Julius, (because he figures very prominently in the following) found out, when Greg invited back to the forum, I will at EVERY CHANCE, speak forcefully and firmly against the hellish, demonic false theology called "replacement theology forged in the anvils of hell, and FOUNDATIONAL for thousands of years, to give "leave" for the devil to pollute men who say they are "Christians" and not, to engage in the wholesale murder, rapes, forced conversations, inquistionns of the tribe of my flesh, the Jews.

When Greg invited me back to the forum, I was simply stunned to read how many threads both you and Julius had started and were involved in about Israel and the Jews, in quite a negative light, and that's putting it mildly.

to the brethren and others, "replacement theology" is

"Supersessionism, also called replacement theology or fulfillment theology, is a Christian theological view on the current status of the church in relation to the Jewish people and Judaism. It holds that the Christian Church has succeeded the Israelites as the definitive people of God or that the New Covenant has replaced or superseded the Mosaic covenant. From a supersessionist's "point of view, just by continuing to exist [outside the Church], the Jews dissent..."

that's from this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersessionism

and its a damnable lie.

when I came on here, post after post from Julius and yourself, deriding the Jewish people, deriding the State of Israel, terming it "of man, and not God", you better believe such theo-babble wouldn't go unanswered, and I went right up against you men and others.....i'm not going to rehash that all, because I told the both of you that you should repent from such wickedness.

Now we have the reason you HAD to make that announcement you're leaving the forum, which is YOU started the "Peyton Manning has a beer" thread, which DEVOLVED into an absolutely abysmal witness, and I wrote that in all my time, this is about the worst thread I ever seen, and a terrible witness, and thankfully with some God given wisdom, Greg shut that unprofitable, unedifying and just plain foolishness......I don't use all that "christianese" and seminary "ism's and ists".....make it plain is what the Lord leads me, Oracio.

Now, you're the one trying to accuse me, and make me out to be the bad guy here, by actually having the cowardice to say "i'm one the reasons you wont post here anymore".

Now I MIGHT believe that, but I read your long post/testimony on this thread below, speaking ill of your wife, speaking ill of a "friend", because he watched a movie you thought was "bad", and so you "rebuked" him, he didn't exactly fall down at your feet, in recognition of his "sin"......so he is termed a "false" Christian by you. (i'm not quote by quote referencing you're long "later" post)....I seen you wrote in that thread, (and others) about the "apostate emergent church" with great scorn...i'd be very careful if I was you, because blaspheming the Holy Ghost is no joke....now I might not join an emergent church, but all , some of these young kids got to see are the numerous hypocritical "ten shekel and a shirt" pastors, ranting about the VERY SIN...they are hiding, like the hideous witness of Ted Haggard former head of the NAE, who wouldn't let one day go by, without ranting about the "homosexual agenda".....God got tired of watching the man play that game, so Ted was unmasked as a male whore monger and a meth addict....and these kids see this, they're trying to feel their way to God as best they can, but fellows like you and others just heap scorn on them....and who are YOU?

Now I know, there's a lot of weirdness in some assemblies, but it seems to me you're FOND of proclaiming this dear soul or that dear soul as a "false Christian" or this church "apostate"....or that brother "backslidden"...or telling me I "hate" you and then daring to misuse that Precious Fourth Chapter of 1st John, (which is the real "love chapter") to accuse me of being a liar.

SHAMEFUL!

i'll tell you it again, find a "cave", get on your face, repent from your wickedness, beg God to remove that religious spirit from you, and plead for the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Now we'll REALLY see if this is your last post on this thread, or maybe someone else will take it upon themselves to "reprove and rebuke" me, to which I say, bring it.

Would to God the remaining posters REMEMBER this forum is dedicated to Heaven Sent, God Sovereign REVIVAL, and not childish drama.

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sermonindex

Apology accepted and I beg you, please accept mine.

as I wrote, what got to me was that whole abysmal "Peyton has a beer thread", AND as a Jew who follows and loves Jesus Messiah, ANYONE adhering to the damnable satanic lie of "replacement theology" will hear it from me.....I should never have joked about raw opium paste, and I am too sorry about that, in light of your testimony, God love you Jeff, neil

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MaryJane

Greetings Neil

I pray you will heal quickly and find comfort in HIM. I have been away from the forum and did not know of your condition. Know you are in my thoughts brother...

God bless and keep you
maryjane

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sermonindex

my dear sister, God bless you! Prayers answered, feel like a new man today, much love in Him, neil

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sermonindex

Neil

Will be praying for you as well. Have known major heart problems also.
Had a massive heart attack about 4 1/2 years ago (too much pasta and salsiccia)
Heat function was down to less than 30% and the doctors said irreparable
damage was done to central heart chamber because the main artery was blocked 100% and had been clogged up for quite a long time.
They would not operate because the risk factor was far to great and so they put
a couple of stents in and wished me the best. However God does what he wants to do with the little faith we have and he has responded. After all who would be here to post stuff about GFA if he had taken me home.

Anyway the Lord God bless you and heal you up quickly.

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sermonindex

no attack, jus tying up loose ends and making the nurses laugh.....amen, and yes, Bless the Lord and His Holy Name, neil

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sermonindex

Hi Neil, what happened? I thought you got a clean bill of health last week? I called you this morning, will catch up with you some time this week.

Oracio, you write............

"You win Neil, you got what you wanted. You got brother Greg to side with you against me."

I think therin lies a lot of the problems with this forum now. Who would care whether Greg sides with you or not? A man should speak the truth in love regardless of what other men think. Greg is just a man like you or me and if he shuts down a thread he is either right of wrong. Its not about winning or losing. That is the problem with so many of the " theological threads." It becomes about winning or losing the argument or amassing others who will agree with you and then feeling that makes you right. It is not fruitful or beneficial.

Having said that, my heart bleeds for you as far as your personal situation is concerned brother. What you are dealing with is one of the hardest things to deal with and it can literally rip a man or woman in two. It can make a man harder and unmoving and more judgmental or it can break him and humble him and make him throw himself upon the Lord in order to survive with his heart intact and still open. I would love to think I would respond in the latter but I am not sure since I have not faced that. My prayers are with you brother. It is probably a good time to step back from things like this forum which is so rarely encouraging these days. God bless you and I pray that you will hear from God( not from men) how to move forward..............bro Frank

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alamb

Neil, what a sermon! I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I love this saint's radio show too. But this sermon was exactly what I needed this very night at this very time. I have been pretty discouraged the last two weeks. And even though I know that I know what I know, I still get pulled into looking at the circumstances, thus taking my eyes off Jesus. Then, just like Peter, I start to sink. My Spirit started to soar five minutes into the message. Thank you so much for your obedience to Him when He prompted you to put in the link before you ended your post. You are one of His chosen, the apple of His eye, created by Him and for Him, all for His Glory.

In Him,
alamb

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