Marching to Zion

I have really held back on this issue on the forums (the controversy in Zion) so as not to be perceived as "having an agenda", but I am going to work on a post in the days ahead showing some shocking truth & history that seldom/never gets brought forth on these forums. Phillip Mauro has had his say on these forums & with much praise (& maybe aspects of his ministry are good outside of his eschatology, I have no idea?), & many other Replacement Theology/Supercessionism works. Well, I am going to share some truth NOT getting light here. Not harshly, not proudly/arrogantly, not in pride, not in contention: but for the sake of truth. Be watching for it.
God Bless,
Jeff

ADL Deeply Troubled at Upcoming Documentary Film Denigrating Jews and Judaism

New York, NY, November 24, 2014 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is deeply troubled by the upcoming release of a new "documentary” geared toward Christian audiences that purportedly will focus on "the history of the Jews,” but in fact will likely serve as a tool for denigrating Jews and Judaism.

The documentary film, "Marching to Zion” is a project of Steve Anderson, the pastor of the Faithful World Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona, and Paul Wittenberger, a conspiracy-oriented filmmaker from Los Angeles. Anderson, who has a history of anti-Semitism through his sermons and a series of YouTube videos, is co-producing the film with Wittenberger.

Slated for release in March 2015, the documentary’s promotional materials describe the film as covering a number of anti-Jewish themes, ranging from claims that "Judaism’s Messiah” is the Antichrist, to the "blasphemous teachings of the Talmud and Kabbalah,” to "scriptural evidence that the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people.” Anderson is heavily promoting it on YouTube.

"Pastor Steve Anderson’s warped views of Jews and Judaism are a perversion of our faith and people,” said Rabbi David Sandmel, ADL Director of Interfaith Affairs. "It is deeply troubling when a pastor uses his pulpit to misinform fellow Christians about the nature of Judaism and to promote hateful anti-Semitic myths.

The film also will feature Texe Marrs, a Texas-based pastor with a lengthy history of promoting anti-Semitism and conspiracy theories.

Anderson denigrates Judaism in a number of clips on YouTube publicizing "Marching to Zion.” The titles betray their anti-Semitic agenda, including: "The Jews are the Racists,” "Taking Part in the Jews’ Evil Deeds,” Jews are Antichrists,” and "Jewish Synagogue = Synagogue of Satan.” He paints Jews as an evil force and claims God has rejected Jews, since Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah.

Anderson founded the Faithful Word Baptist Church in 2005 in Tempe. The church has a small congregation and is not affiliated with any mainstream Baptist denomination. In August 2009, the church, which is also known for promoting extreme positions on homosexuality, garnered national attention when Anderson sermonized that he was praying for the death of President Obama.
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Sermon Index should not allow the promotion of this anti-Jewish propaganda

"Steve Anderson, the "pas­tor" of Faithful Word Baptist Church, regularly preaches about the evil of the Jews, branding them as bigots, children of the Devil, Antichrists and other anti-Semitic terms. In a perfect storm of conspiracy theorists, the hate-monger has announced he is co-producing the film March­ing to Zion with Paul Wit­ten­berger, a conspiracy-oriented film­maker from Los Angeles."

This is what the 4 horsemen of Sermon Index are promoting here continually
with this wicked agenda, This is not about theology. Theology is the covering agent used to promote this vile wickedness, Surely this must be reigned in at
least in this place that claims Jesus as Lord.

DEARBORN (CBS Detroit) Because it has the "greatest Arab population in the United States,” a pastor with a soft drawl, earnest delivery and alleged anti-Semitic rhetoric plans to march on Dearborn.

The suburban Detroit city is the target of Steve Anderson, pastor of Faithful World Baptist Church in Tempe, Ariz., for a march planned for Friday, June 26.

Anderson says he’s going to bring as many followers as he can plus 1,000 copies of his movie "Marching to Zion” ”” which has been criticized as anti-Semitic ”” to distribute to what he perceives as a receptive Muslim audience. He urges followers to order "Free Palestine” T-shirts from Amazon.com for their demonstration.

"If you wear this shirt, it’s going to protect you in Dearborn,” he says.

The plan is to "get these DVDs into the hands of these Arabs,” he adds in the promotional You Tube video. To that end, part of the movie has been translated into Arabic, he says.

There’s obviously an audience for his message. Anderson’s "After the Tribulation,” released in December 2012 on You Tube, has more than 1.6 million views.

His latest "Marching to Zion” movie is billed as something that "traces the history of the Jewish people from the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70 to the founding of the modern-day nation of Israel in 1948.”

It "examines Biblical evidence, cutting-edge DNA science, mathematics, and testimony from pastors and rabbis” in a quest to "settle once and for all one of the most controversial questions of all time: Who are God’s chosen people?”

When it was released last year, the Anti-Defamation League released a statement revealing the group was "deeply troubled” by what it thought would be a denigration of the Jews.

"Pastor Steve Anderson’s warped views of Jews and Judaism are a perversion of our faith and people,” said Rabbi David Sandmel, ADL Director of Interfaith Affairs. "It is deeply troubling when a pastor uses his pulpit to misinform fellow Christians about the nature of Judaism and to promote hateful anti-Semitic myths.

On this trip, Anderson’s goal is to recruit Muslims, who he says need the Gospel. He never directly addresses Jews.

"You see, most of these Arabs in Dearborn are Muslims of course and we all know that the Muslims are going to hell in a hand basket,” Anderson says in his recruiting video.

He has reportedly preached sermons in the past with titles including "The Jews and their Lies,” and "Jews are Anti-Christs.”

Anderson plans for parishioners and whoever else gets on board to meet at an Allen Park Panera restaurant early June 26 for breakfast before marching the streets of Dearborn to spend the rest of the day "soul winning.” It’s unknown how many people plan to join, but the church’s Facebook page has more than 5,000 fans.

"We want to have as many people come as possible,” Anderson adds, telling people to come from anywhere "nearby”, including Chicago.

Dearborn Police were not aware of any public gathering permit requests issued on behalf of Anderson or his church.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/06/18/accused-anti-semitic-pastor-plans-march-on-dearborn-to-save-muslim-souls/

Saints,

Steven Anderson is a very dubious character and it takes very little discernment at all to realize that himself and other strong KJV only fundamentalists are wrong in what they assert. Of course there is truth mingled with errors and they are very zealous so some things might be good to hear.

It is without doubt that God has preserved the jewish people for His end times purposes. This does not mean that jewish people are saved by being jewish as all must embrace our Messiah, Jesus Christ.

It is also clear in Scripture that in Matthew 24, ALL NATIONS will hate Christians including the jewish nation and also America.

But without doubt it is clear the Scriptures teach that the Jewish people are separate then all the gentiles (all other nations in the earth) and God desires the Good News of Jesus Christ to be proclaimed to the Jew first and then Gentiles.

And in the end jewish people will embrace the true messiah (Jesus Christ).

Of course in the end times there will be an Antichrist that will not only delude Christians but Jewish people and other Gentiles (all other nations). But this does not make the current Israel wrong because some will embrace and even some speculate that the Antichrist will come and proclaim himself antichrist in Jerusalem.

This film is full of alot of assumptions. Saints do not be discouraged to love Jewish people and rejoice that there is a state of Israel and God is doing a work to prepare for the end of the age. May they see the reality of Jesus Christ in us and let us be sensitive to the leading of the Spirit to share the love of Jesus with them.

Thank you Rev & Greg for stating what I was thinking.

If you want a real, honest, factual history of church history in anti-semitism I can't recommend this book enough:

"When a Jew rules the World" by Joel Richardson. Even if you disagree with eschatological viewpoint & stay where you are (I will still treat you as a brother as does Joel), you will be enlightened on some church history I am certain 99.99% of the church wasn't aware of (not just Roman Catholic, but evangelical Protestant & respected men like Luther, Calvin, Augustin, etc.). I was frankly shocked, saddened & blown away. It is worth a look saints

Greg, do you think the Scriptures teach that God is going to have another age of salvation after the Church age? If so, will it be for all people or only the Jewish people? Or do you think the Church age is the final age before Jesus comes back in judgment?

Jeff

You're welcome. The eschatological viewpoint expressed by the people you mentioned and a few here are a direct influence used to demonize the Jewish people and nation. One object of this is to harden them towards the gospel. It has succeeded in some part but this too will ultimately fail. Many Jews are being saved now and many more will be grafted into the vine of the Lord as he opens their spiritual eyes.

Blessings to you and your family.

Greg, do you think the Scriptures teach that God is going to have another age of salvation after the Church age? If so, will it be for all people or only the Jewish people? Or do you think the Church age is the final age before Jesus comes back in judgment

Brother, good question, I personally do not believe there is a Church Age, but the Scriptures say that the times of the gentiles will be fulfilled and then the Gospel will be embraced by Jewish peoples. This will all happen before our Lord comes in the clouds and every eye see's Him.

And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. - Luke 21:24

Romans 11 really sums up for me the great hope of the Jewish people embracing the Gospel, of course we rejoice in our Messianic believers of the Jewish people group. But a larger amount of Jewish people will not embrace Jesus Christ till all the Gentiles are saved from the other nations that God intended.

Is it not amazing that God choose such a small group of insignificant people to be a people group that the Apostles, Prophets and the very Son of God would be manifest? And that through their ultimate disobedience the very life of God would be shared with the entire world (gospel of Jesus). And now in the end after our embracing this gospel they will themselves have a revival and re-embracing of their heritage.

I hope that in-part answers some of your question.

Below is Romans 11:11-36

Israel’s Rejection Not Final
11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. 12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!

13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, 18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness,[f] if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved,[g] as it is written:

"The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”[h]
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.

33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!

34 "For who has known the mind of the Lord?
Or who has become His counselor?”[i]
35 "Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?”[j]
36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

Hi saints,

When Fred Phelps's " church," was often in the news I used to shake my head and wonder as a young Christian. There were over 350,000 churches in America and this wicked gathering of people of less than a hundred became known all over the world and non-christian people had a field day lambasting " Christianity," because of them. All of this was the devils work, Screwtape would be very proud that such a few crazies could be so easily promoted and used to defame genuine saints.

This man and this church that is being spoken on this thread runs right into that category. The vast majority of Christians and churches, which I have many problems with as anyone who knows me can testify so in no way am I their defenders, but the vast majority of Christians and churches are pro Israel in their stand. Just try and run as Republican and not be pro-Israel and see what happens.

So I am not sure why this man would or should be given any airtime at all. If it gives the impression that the vast majority of Christian's in this country are anti-semitic then it is the devils work for that is blatantly and demonstrably not true.

Bro Greg writes........

"It is without doubt that God has preserved the jewish people for His end times purposes. This does not mean that jewish people are saved by being jewish as all must embrace our Messiah, Jesus Christ."

Now, what could be more simple than that? Amen brother. I think most of the discussion beyond that is sophistry and the devils work that is just how I feel...........bro Frank

I do not think a Christian should watch satan's propaganda that savannah is promoting here. Think the link should be removed as well.

nothing new from this source(s). They talk religion while serving satan's doomed to fail purpose at the same time.

Thank you savanna for your brave post.
But it seems a bit too much for some members here.
Quote; "Watch the documentary and you decide! " fair point !

Quote: "Steven Anderson is a very dubious character"
His character has nothing to do with what he presents, we should not discuss someones character, rather the points that the person presents, and we should do it in a fair and mature manner.

To quote from secular sources is not helpful when discussing Biblical topics !

Again the topic becomes too important for some, more important than to glorify Jesus ,to lift up His name

Paul wrote: I'm determined not to know anything among you exept Jesus Christ and Him crucified !

you must like peanuts markuskiwi

Brother Chuck,

Personal attacks and comments like this do nothing but bring shame to the Name of our Lord. No matter where we disagree may we have grace towards each other. I have personally asked on the forums for saints to not continue to post on divisive subjects over and over again. May this again be a request to not post on the debate about the state of Israel.

In the end we have to simply agree, God has preserved the jewish people for a specific end times purpose and salvation. Even though Israel is as corrupt and wicked as America (are not all nations the same! ?) Homosexuality is being promoted in these 2 nations more then perhaps all others combined.

In the end we need to see God's Biblical purpose of saving Gentiles and in the end the wonderful jewish people group will be saved and engrafted fully into the people of God.

Let us never forget that we are partaking of the promises of God given to the jewish people, we should have fear of God in that if they were plucked out like a branch we also need to be weary God does not do the same to us as gentiles (Romans 11).

The jewish people were the most stubborn and hard-hearted and that is why God used them as the type so that there could be hope for all other gentiles. Remember in the kingdom of God the first will be last and the last first. The one that is shown the most mercy will have the greatest place.

We should have love towards all people groups including the Jewish peoples.

Steven Anderson yells & screams & calls Ray Comfort a false prophet & a heretic & says he is lost himself & makes fun of him. He also is so KJV Only he can't handle simple truth. I have heard him preach & he is of another spirit. I have NO problem saying he is "questionable" at the very least. Not based on opinions, but facts & his own words

Jeff

What about those promote him? Would they be of the same spirit as well?
(not meant to pigeon hole you)

Brother, again I will say, be careful who you malign/slander & what you claim as false. You may find yourself slandering servants of the Lord. Mark Biltz never said most of what people said he said/claimed. Same with Jonathan Cahn & others. Just be careful. Easy with your own personal sword there Peter.