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The Reality of the Kingdom of God

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Two of our dear sisters attempted to open up a thread on the kingdom of God. I was looking for some good spiritual discussion on that thread. But I believe it got brutally hijacked.

On their behalf I would like to try to open up a thread again on what the kingdom of God is for the believer. But before continuing. I respectfully ask that the Sermonindexnex guide lines be observed in our posting. May I respectfully ask that this be a safe thread where people can post even of different viewloints. Even in our differences we can learn from one another.

So please let us honor these two sisters and have some civil discussion on what the kingdom of God is. For Jesus certainly preached on it.

Remember when Jesus was preaching about the kingdom. There were no eschatological viewpoints around at the time.

So I hope they can have some rich discussion without the debate. If you are coming on this trip without a gym but then I asked respectfully please stay off. Let us discuss those things that will build up our walk with Christ.

Looking forward just some rich discussion here.

Brother Blaine

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Amen!

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I started listening to Mark today. In the opening verses I came across these verses,

... Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee preaching the gospel of God, and saying, " The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand, repent and believe the gospel."...Mark 1:14-15

This might be a springboard for some discussion. Looks like some rich verses above. So what is Jesus preaching on here? What are your insights on these rich verses?.

Bro Blaine


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Is there a connection between the gospel and the kingdom? Also what type gospel was Jesus preaching? How did his hearers understand the kingdom? What did he mean the time is fulfilled?

Okay I'm getting excited in my spirit here. I have a lot of questions. How about some Christ centered discussion to see if the holy spirit will give us some answers.

Brother Blaine getting excited. :-)

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Is this topic about the literal, physical, tangible solid and material Kingdom of God to come or about the Kingdom of God that has it's foretaste in a genuine
believer's life.? Because the two being obviously related are absolutely not entirely that same thing.

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Greg posted this and it is excellent:

"We believe Christ will return, but no one except the Father knows the date of His return.1239 On the day when Christ returns, He will come in glory and power on the clouds with the angels.1240 On that day, the angels will blow the trumpet, and those who were dead in Christ will rise first. After that, all born again Christians who are still alive will also be transformed.1241 Their bodies will all be glorified, and they will all be caught up together in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.1242
! The saints will then reign together with Christ for a thousand years,1243 during which Satan will be cast into the Abyss. When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released temporarily and will go out to deceive the nations until he is finally thrown into the lake of burning sulfur.1244 After that, Christ will sit on the great white throne to judge men from each nation, tribe and people. Everyone will rise from the dead and be judged before the throne. If anyone’s name is not found written in the Book of life, he will
be thrown into the lake of fire. The former heaven
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and earth will be consumed by fire. Death and Hades will also be thrown into the fire.1245
! Those whose names are found written in the Book of life will enter into the new heaven and the new earth, living there with God forever.1246 We believe that while waiting for the coming of the Lord, believers should serve the Lord with great diligence, preach the Word of life,1247 and bear abundant fruits in their words, actions, faith, love and holiness. We also believe that those who do this shall receive all kinds of rewards.1248
! As for whether the rapture happens before, during or after the great tribulation, we recognize that each denomination has its own conviction, and therefore there is no absolute conclusion in regard to this. The duty of each Christian is to be alert1249 and prepare himself for the coming of the Lord.1250"

Is this the topic to be discussed regarding the Kingdom?

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Rev stated:

"Is this topic about the literal, physical, tangible solid and material Kingdom of God to come or about the Kingdom of God that has it's foretaste in a genuine
believer's life.? Because the two being obviously related are absolutely not entirely that same thing."

Yes it would be good to know what Kingdom is to be discussed.

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Brother the kingdom of God is a vast topic. I think when Taszo opened her thread it was in response to Elibeth's comment on my other thread which is What is the Gospel Message. So that is what I am hoping this thread to address here.

In Mark 1:15 Jesus is declaring,

... The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel...

So something is already taking place in the ministry of Jesus. Something in the here and now. Something that may have direct impact on our walk with the Lord Jesus. This is what I'm hoping to see addressed in this thread.

Again my thoughts.


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Luke 17:20-21,

... Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, " The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed;" nor will they say, "Look, here it is" or "There it us". "For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."...

Could this be a cross reference to the verses in Mark 1:15-15? What is Jesus implying in the above verses? Maybe we need to ask what is the kingdom of God? At least what is the kingdom of God as Jesus is referring to in the gospels?

Brother Blaine

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i have little interest in anonymous internet discussions on the High and Holy Kingdom of God/Heaven lensed thru the mind of man...in fact this very thread is insane, for the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

here is your "discussion" on the Kingdom of Heaven, Matthew 18, and verses one thru Four:

" At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them

and said, "Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."

careful, the witness on this forum has become terrible, do you not fear God?

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Brother you bring a good word of admonition to us. Always as we open up His word to receive instruction from Him. May we have a teachable and humble heart. James exhorts us to receive the word in humility that will save our soul.

Your brother Blaine

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Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

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Mat 12:28
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

One night when we was out on the streets sharing Jesus a young woman came up and started ranting, a couple of sisters who were with us took her aside and started praying for her and after a few "things" happened had to cast out a demon in her, she physically hit the cement sidewalk so hard you could feel it vibrate, they than proceeded to minster Jesus and her need for repentance and her need to forgive some "stuff" others had done to her in her life. It was an amazing display of the reality of demons and God's power over them in this life and the real presence of the Kingdom of God right here right now in the midst of His children. That s just 1 example where scripture was literally born out in real life... Not sure if that is the sort of things you guys are looking for in this thread?

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Brother do you think Jesus was saying in John that his kingdom is a now spiritual reality as opposed to a now physical reality?

Bro Blaine

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Brother as I read the testimony you posted I thought of the verse in Corinthians where Paul says that the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.

Bro Blaine

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"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world"

Dont you just love the words of Jesus, it just cuts right through the clutter and the noise of a million would be theologians. Jesus' truth is simple, man's opinions are ridiculously complicated in order to fit into their theories. Talk about pretzels! Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world. That is the end of it to me, every Scripture must conform to the words of the Word for He knows the Word better than anyone, He is the Word. So if anyone has a theory, and that's all it is folks, it must conform to what Jesus says here for we know by the Word that the word is not broken.

We as Christians are already walking in the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God has been established in our hearts and we are but mere ambassadors to a world that is passing away. Jesus never said that His Kingdom was not of this world until He comes back again and then it will be of this world for 1000 years, He simply said that His Kingdom which already was, is and is to come is not of this world. There is a new world coming and we shall dwell in it with resurrected bodies, these corruptible bodies shall be raised in in-corruption.

To me, there is a dueling contest between the spirit and the flesh, between the world that we walk in physically and the one that we belong to and the one that we belong to is not of this world. I pray to God frequently that I walk according to the Kingdom of God and not the reality of this world for they are entirely different...........bro Frank

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Good word, Frank.

βασιλεία
basileia
bas-il-i'-ah
From G935; properly royalty, that is, (abstractly) rule, or (concretely) a realm (literally or figuratively): - kingdom, + reign.

The Kingdom is the domain of the King. When we talk about God's kingdom, we talk about God's government. Jesus is the Governor.

Matt 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

Scriptural response to God's government is OBEDIENCE. Not only outward but inward obedience. True submission to Jesus is to have a right heart attitude to God. "To want to". The only way to do this, "to want to obey God", is if the Holy Spirit is indwelling us.


The Kingdom of God is present and eternal. The Kingdom of God is here and now and we don't have to yearn for experiencing it in the future, as we should be experiencing it, here and now.

Matt 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Luke 10:9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come

Luke 10:11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding BE YE SURE OF THIS, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.


Mar 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.

Many that were with Jesus as He walked the earth, were also alive when He rose from the dead with resurrection power.

Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God WITH POWER, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

And were present on the Day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came in power.


The Kingdom of God is imperative - it is imperative that man choose the Kingdom or suffer the consquences. Repent or Perish!
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

The Kingdom of God is visible though not material. Spiritual does not mean invisible. The Spiritual Kingdom is within man - hence a visible kingdom.
Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The Kingdom of God is moral (for lack of a better term) yet not nationalistic. And when I say moral, it is not like man's morals, because the "engine" of heaven's values is love from a pure heart which is representative of God. A pure heart is not selfish, and does not take advantage of it's fellow man. A pure heart lays down it's life for others and it's motives are pure.

The Kingdom of God has one enemy...the Kingdom of Jesus Christ versus the Kingdom of Satan, Light vs Darkness. It has nothing to do with earthly kingdoms vs earthly kingdoms.

The Kingdom of God is social as well as individualistic. I have a personal relationship with God and because of this, I am related to others. The Church of Jesus Christ, in all respects is really a counter-culture (or should be) to this world. A new race, a new people a new way of thinking and living. Jesus Himself formed the model in which we are to live on this earth.

The Kingdom of God is universal as well as local.
Luke 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

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One more point on the resurrected bodies. The catepillar and the butterfly is a great example of what is to come for us after we pass from this world to the next, or the seed that is buried in the ground, dies and rises into something extraordinary. Bottom line, we do not know what we will look like but its going to be spectacular. Isn't that good enough for our limited minds? It's above all of our pay-grades. The Scriptures are all but silent on the world to come and I believe deliberately so. We should simply join together in the wonder of it all. To argue about something that the Word has so little to say about cannot be a Godly thing. To wonder together, like little children, about the beauty of it all would be pleasing to God I think..............bro Frank

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Our finite minds cannot handle what God has for us and He does not want us to be distracted with the mission that is at hand which is primarily to abide in Him and everything will flow out of His divine activity in our lives if we embrace the cross and allow His life to function in us.

1 Cor 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

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Julias quotes....

1 Cor 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

I have always loved that Scripture. It has not even entered into the hearts of man, not even entered in, that is how much above our pay grade the concept of life after death is. So the notion that we would argue about it just seems silly does it not. Enough to wonder in some secret moments about the glory of it all.

Indeed, the task at hand is enough to be going on with. Living the Kingdom reality in a harsh world that violently opposes all things Spiritual is the task at hand. If we can live and walk in the Kingdom glory now, if we can shine our lights when all of darkness comes against us, if we can swim up the river of this world while being taken down the river of God fully immersed in the current of the Holy Spirit, just imagine what it will be like when there is no more darkness, when there is no more resistance and we simply exist in the glory of God.

Just imagine what it will be like when there is no more parting, no more death, no more sin. If we can discover joy in the midst of sorrow, if we can hope when there seems to be no reason to hope, if we can love when we are despised, imagine brothers and sisters what it will be like when our joy is complete! When faith has done its work, when hope is realized and love rules supreme and we know as we are known. Just imagine for we can do nothing more than imagine because it has not even entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. Glory!! ...............bro Frank

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by appolus on 2016/6/10 10:23:19

When faith has done its work...

Glory!! ...............bro Frank


This is the key, Frank..and what the Lord wants us to concentrate on, NOW.

Let faith do it's work...WITH POWER. (Holy Ghost power to overcome sin, Satan and the flesh and love, love, love all men no matter what they do to you).

2 Th 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and THE WORK OF FAITH WITH POWER.

What can we learn about the nature of the King and the Kingdom of God that can build our faith, now?


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Blaine,

I did not read all the posts on this thread but would like to comment.

Elibeth posted her testimony and it is right in line what has been going through my mind. "We live in the world but are not of it" - so said Jesus. How is that possible?

Ephesians 2:19-22:
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household,

20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone,

21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord,

22 in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

This describes it beautifully, does it not?

I look around and see evil run amok everywhere; evil being promoted as the norm, logical; common sense no longer understood by the average person; honesty is no longer understood - all these basic traits have fled from the public square with meaningful dialogue impossible because people have been given over to a reprobate mind. Their thinking patterns are totally alien to truth.

Sloppiness, ugliness, neatness, laziness has replaced creativity, beauty, joy of work. The prevailing culture is totally alien to the one promoted by the LORD.

We are the temple of the Holy Spirit wherein God dwells. This equips us to recognize the enemy out there prowling about working to tempt us, sidetrack us, divert us with concerns for our well-being, getting us to take our focus off the LORD Jesus and his kingdom. Since we are the temple wherein God dwells, we will long for fellowship with fellow saints who will encourage us and strengthen us.

As I look at the political situation today I am tempted to get overly concerned about how it may effect our grandchildren, effect us. I look at the local political situation and it is horrible - it is all about power, greed, stealing, dishonesty - so bad that the local politicians are within the cross hairs of the federal Justice department. BUT...unless you are involved in politics (in our community), we have it good! They are leaving us alone - after all they do need our tax moneys - without it they have less to embezzle, less to spend....

This is politics....how about other issues? Do I allow the world to dictate what I want? Do I feel compelled to keep up with the Jones'? Is my desire to be accepted, appreciated rooted in pride? Am I afraid to speak out for fear of offending? Am I allowing the WORD to shape my thinking process, my wants, my desires, my reactions? As I understand being a part of the Kingdom of God it means I am a total stranger and pilgrim here with no rights, claims in a foreign kingdom. I am not permitted to allow this foreign kingdom to impact me in any shape or form.

Yes, I am being convicted on every side on how this foreign kingdom is working to distract me. No loopholes anywhere. Belonging to Jesus in a wicked, crooked world and His kingdom is totally different. Totally. Absolutely.

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One more point on the resurrected bodies. The catepillar and the butterfly is a great example of what is to come for us after we pass from this world to the next, or the seed that is buried in the ground, dies and rises into something extraordinary. Bottom line, we do not know what we will look like but its going to be spectacular. Isn't that good enough for our limited minds? It's above all of our pay-grades. The Scriptures are all but silent on the world to come and I believe deliberately so. We should simply join together in the wonder of it all. To argue about something that the Word has so little to say about cannot be a Godly thing. To wonder together, like little children, about the beauty of it all would be pleasing to God I think..............bro Frank

I retitled this thread: The Reality of the Kingdom of God


We must look at this subject with awe and a sense of majesty, it is not a doctrinal verse thing but a living reality where we live move and have our being in Him.

What matters most is are we in the kingdom, being fruitful in the Lord and looking forward His coming.

And this statement of the kingdom of God is very practical to us as disciples of the Lord:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

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"The life and fellowship of the church is to be a foreatse of life in the Kingdom of God."

"Jesus' message of the Kingdom of God is the announcement by word and deed that God is acting and manifesting dynamically his redemptive will in history. God is seeking out sinners; he is inviting them to enter into the messianic blessing; he is demanding of them a favorable response to his gracious offer. God has again spoken. A new prophet has appeared, indeed one who is more than a prophet, one who bring to people the very blessings he promises."

"The mission of Jesus brought not a new teaching but a new event. It brought to people an actual foretaste of the eschatological salvation. Jesus did not promise the forgiveness of sins; he bestowed it. He did not simple assure people of the future fellowship of the Kingdom; he invited them into fellowship with himself as the bearer of the Kingdom. He did not merely promise them vindication in the day of judgment; he bestowed upon them the status of a present righteousness. He not only taught an eschatological deliverance from physical evil; he went about demonstrating the redeeming power of the Kingdom, delivering people from sickness and even death."

(George Eldon Ladd)

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"he [Jesus] invited them into fellowship with himself as the bearer of the Kingdom."

Isn't Jesus the King?

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"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3)

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:(Colossians 1:13)

"From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force."
(Matthew 11:2).

Brothers and sisters, I would like to pose a question to you. Is entering the Kingdom of God and inheriting the Kingdom the same thing?

I believe from what the scriptures teach that when we are saved, we enter into the Kingdom of God.

The Word teaches us that we are to seek first the Kingdom of God, that we are to pursue the Kingdom, and that we are to take the Kingdom by force. We know that the world, the flesh, and the devil will all be against us, but God has revealed to us the character of those that will inherit the Kingdom of God. The Sermon on the mount gives us the character of those that will inherit the Kingdom of God. The bible is also clear about those that will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to nor perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God."… (1 Corinthians 6:9,10).

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AbideinHim,
And the many others that have this interest in 'the gospel of the kingdom'
here,I SO yearn to get back to our conversation together again.....it is such a great interest to me also.

But I am in such a focused work right now,....My heart wants to be here,...
badly.

Please,carry on,
Bless you all,

Do hope Neil is OK.

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Abide in Him,Mike,

You ask, "Is entering the kingdom of God and inheriting the kingdom of God the same.? "

I do not know,but

I would like to pose a Scripture to that thought,and see what you think it might mean.

Mt.13:41,
Jesus speaking,..." The Son of man shall send forth His angels,and they shall gather OUT OF HIS KINGDOM all things that offend,and them that do iniquity."

Question:
How do we offend ? What is He saying ?
Can we enter the kingdom of God and become ' NOT as a little child,..
teachable,...bendable ? .....not willing to follow Him,the King ?

We must be in the kingdom,before we can be ' gathered out'

When is the Angels going to be sent forth,and gather OUT OF THE KINGDOM,all things that offend.?

NOTE: I edited for clarity

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I edited my last post for clarity.

elizabeth

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Jesus answered, 'Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one be not born of water, and the Spirit, he is not able to enter into the reign of God. John 3 :5

Jesus answered and said to him, 'Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one be not born from above, he is not able to see the reign of God. John 3:3

In most solemn truth I tell you," answered Jesus, "that unless a man is born anew he cannot see the Kingdom of God."John 3:3

In most solemn truth I tell you," replied Jesus, "that unless a man is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God. John 3:5

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"Someone asked, ‘Lord, will only a few be saved?’ Jesus answered, ‘Make every effort to enter through the narrow gate, because I tell you this: many will try to enter but will not be able to… For narrow is the gate, and narrow is the path which leads to Life, and few will find it (Luke 13:23,24; Matthew 7:14).'"

We live in a day of easy-believism. According to the way today’s church operates, it is very easy to be saved. All we have to do is make a confession, or repeat a prayer, or make a decision, or respond to an altar call. What is more, every day we hear reports of hundreds or thousands of people being "saved" in crusades and evangelistic meetings around the world. We are being told to prepare for a great last days harvest of souls which will proceed the return of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Since it is easy to become a Christian, it is even easier to remain one. So long as we do not recant our original confession, we believe, all is well. Once we have "prayed the prayer" we are Christians. Particularly if we attend church services, read the Bible, witness, give, and obey the Ten Commandments. But, we are told, those things have nothing to do with salvation ”“ having entered in, we are safe and secure. According to the way we have been taught it is the easiest thing in the world to become a Christian, and once your name is on the roll it is difficult, if not impossible, to have your name erased.

We are not debating if you can have your salvation and lose it ”“ we are questioning whether these "easy believers" ever found real salvation at all. It is a foundational issue of eternal significance. In stark contrast to the conditions which exist in our day, Jesus frankly tells us that few will be saved, and few will find Life. When we read what Jesus Himself has to say we have to come to the conclusion that some within Organized Religion are guilty of trying to make the narrow gate and the narrow path into the wide gate and the wide path. We have become excellent salespeople and know how to use our powers of persuasion. We have become good at arguing our viewpoints. We are skilled at manipulating the emotions of other people. Those who know how can lead many people to the Lord ”“ at least, according to the outward appearance.

It behooves us to go back to what the Lord Himself says, and we believe we have found at least seven occurrences in the Scriptures (beyond the two cited above) which seem to indicate that the way to Life is anything but easy. By the time we are concluded with our examination we will understand why Jesus says few are able to enter into the Kingdom. In the first place, the Kingdom is more profound than we have been taught. In the second place, the Way which leads us into the Kingdom is more narrow than we have been taught. By the grace of God let us ask the Lord enlighten us so that we will not go on deceiving or being deceived.

1. Unless you are born-again, you cannot enter.

"I tell you the truth, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God… unless a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God (John 3:3,5)."

All of us are familiar with these verses, but we are not so familiar with what they actually mean. To state it simply, being born-again is not the goal, but the first step towards the goal: the goal is the Kingdom of God. We could state it like this: the narrow gate is not the goal, but it is the first thing we must pass through in order to enter the narrow path. Our goal, and God’s goal, is not the gate, or we would not need a path. Though we begin our journey by entering the gate, the goal is at the end of the path, not at the beginning of the path. So what is the goal?

"It is God’s will for all men to be saved [narrow gate] and to come to the full-knowledge of Truth [narrow path] (I Timothy 2:4)." Here we see one will of God with two expressions ”“ a gate and a path. We enter the gate in a moment, but we walk the path over time. We are saved in a moment, but we come to the full-knowledge (epignosis) of Christ over time. So John 3:3 is not telling us about our ending, but our beginning. Birth is the beginning of Life, not the goal of Life. The goal in view here is not being born-again, but entering the Kingdom. Jesus does not just say, "You must be born again." If He did then we might be correct in saying that is all there is to it. But Jesus says, "Unless you are born again, you cannot see or enter into the Kingdom of God." It is clear that the Kingdom is what we are trying to gain entrance into, and while being born again is the gate, the ultimate destination of the Kingdom of God is at the end of the path.

So what is the Kingdom of God? Stated simply, it is where Christ has the preeminence as All in All. It is where we finally behold Him in all His fullness. To begin with this preeminence is found inwardly in the individual disciple, where it is then seen a little more visibly in the Church, from which it is eventually manifested outwardly in all of creation. This is why we lay such stress on disciples, for as the disciples go, so goes the Church. Jesus did not establish His Church until He had selected His disciples.

What is commonly preached as the "Full Gospel" might be more properly termed the "Fifty Percent Gospel." We lay such stress on the gate, on the initial coming to the Lord; but the other half of the equation, the Kingdom and the ultimate intention of God, is hardly alluded to. What is worse, we invite sinners to Christ on the basis of their own self-serving needs (e.g., come to Christ and He will take away all your burdens, etc.). As a result, most of these people will sit just inside the gate, claiming salvation, but never enter the Kingdom, never come to the full-knowledge of Truth, and never demonstrate the preeminence of Christ over sin, self, and satan.

2. The proper confession is not enough.

"Not everyone who says to Me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but the one who does the Will of my Father in heaven (Matthew 7:21)."

We began by saying that not only is the Way more narrow than we have been taught, but the Kingdom is more profound than we have been taught. For some, the Kingdom of God (alternatively known as the Kingdom of Heaven*) is a place where Christians go when they die. In the meantime we are supposed to hold on to our faith the best we can, and if we persevere, then we will enter the Kingdom of Heaven when we leave this earth. This is an error. While to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, and while there is a place called "heaven", the Kingdom of God is not up in heaven, nor is it someplace in our future. The Kingdom of God is "at hand", "has arrived", "is among you", "is within you."

So we will state it again: the Kingdom of God is where Christ has the preeminence as All in All, beginning with the individual disciple, then the Church, and ultimately, all of creation. "Thy Kingdom come… on earth as it is in heaven." Obviously, the Kingdom would include heaven, but it is not heaven. Jesus tells us not to look for an outward Kingdom, or a political Kingdom, or an earthly Kingdom. "My Kingdom is not of this world… the Kingdom of God is within you." Jesus lifted up His eyes to heaven when he prayed in John 17, yet He says the Kingdom is within you already. We may look up for heaven, but we look within for the Kingdom. When a Christian dies he or she does not travel to a heaven within themselves, nor do they go to live within a heaven which indwells other believers. So entering the Kingdom of God is more encompassing than going to heaven when we die.

Not everyone who says, "Lord, Lord" will enter into this Kingdom. Are we saying confession is unimportant or unnecessary? God forbid! "As I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will confess to God (Romans 14:11)." Yet, even if "every tongue will confess" sooner or later, it still remains that not everyone who says, "Lord, Lord" will enter the Kingdom. It is most difficult to find a religious person who does not claim to be following Christ and does not say, "Lord, Lord". Even so, they will not enter in based solely on saying, "Lord, Lord". The text goes on to say that there are even those who can perform signs and wonders in the Name of Jesus, but the Lord does not even know who they are! Obviously this is a serious problem.

We cannot make the narrow Way more narrow than it is already, but we can certainly mislead people into believing it is wider than it really is. We dare not make it too difficult; but we should tremble at making it too easy. That is why this word must be spoken. Remember, we are not making any claims in our own name, nor are we suggesting some hidden secret we possess that others do not, nor are we establishing a system whereby we can judge the eternal destination of others. We are merely calling attention to Jesus’ own words. He says few will be saved; many will try to enter but will be unable; few will enter the gate and walk the path in order to find Life. Many are called, but few are chosen.

3. Unless you become a child, you cannot enter.

"The disciples came to Jesus and wanted to know, ‘Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven?’ So Jesus called a little child and had him stand in the midst of them. And then He said, ‘I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like this little child, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So the greatest one in the Kingdom of Heaven is the one who humbles himself like this child (Matthew 18:1-4).'"

The disciples wanted to know who would be the greatest in the Kingdom. What they were really asking was, "Which one of us is the greatest?" In their question we see that they are heading in the wrong direction already. They see themselves as leaders, as kings, as lords, as heads inside this Kingdom. But Jesus seems to say, "Why do you assume that you have even entered the Kingdom? Unless you change from what you are into what this child is, you cannot even enter, so how can you claim to be the greatest?" Pride is a great stumblingblock. Proud people cannot enter the Kingdom of God. They cannot give up their own preeminence for His.

Jesus did not have to call a child over to make His point. He could have just said, "Humble yourself as a child." But He did not. So there is a significance to calling the child over and having him stand in the midst of them. Only after this was done did Jesus say, "Become like this child, or you cannot enter the Kingdom." So what is the significance? Jesus called the child, and the child responded to Jesus. There is no questioning from the child, such as, "What do You want?" or "Who are you?" Jesus had him stand in the midst of them, and again, the child complies. We do not hear him say, "Why?" or "What are you going to do now?" or "I don’t have time to stand here, I want to go play."

The Lord would have given two simple instructions to the child, "Come over here" and "Stand right here". There is much we can say about being with the Lord and standing still, but we will not dissect that now. Our point is simply this: the child did what he was told. Silent, meek, surrendered, obedient. It is very simple, Jesus says. The greatest people in the Kingdom are the ones who do what I tell them to do, nothing doubting. It is only when we get older that we begin to question everything. To enter this Kingdom we must know there is only room for one Head, for one Preeminence, for one King, for one Lord. We are disciples, not masters. We may struggle and question His dealings with us, but if we progress in the Way then one day we will learn the best course is to bow our heads and say, "Yes, Lord."

We are waiting for Jesus to give us grand instructions and commandments: "Go around the world and proclaim the Gospel full-time" or "Rise up and fulfill the ministry of an apostle" or "I have appointed you to be a prophet to the nations." But if we cannot hear and obey in the small things, how can we expect Him to lead us into greater things?

4. Unless you are perfectly righteous outwardly, and inwardly, you cannot enter.

"I tell you the truth, unless your righteousness is greater than the Pharisees and teachers of religious law, under no circumstances will you enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:20)."

We know from the Scriptures and from historical writings that the Pharisees were the strictest sect of Judaism. These people were zealously religious, even to the point of giving God a tenth of all their herbs. It was the Pharisee who stood and prayed with himself, "I thank you God that I am not like the others… for I fast twice in the week and give a tenth of all my possessions." It was the Pharisees who had Jesus arrested and turned Him over to Pilate to be crucified ”“ all the while thinking they were doing the right thing. Before meeting the Lord Jesus, Saul carried out their tradition as a member of this elite group and led a fanatical persecution against Christians thinking he was doing his duty to God. Looking back on his religious experiences, Paul said he was "blameless" insofar as the Law was concerned.

According to man’s own standard, there is none more holy or righteous than a Pharisee. So when Jesus says a disciple of His must have a righteousness which surpasses the Pharisees, it is, for all intents and purposes, an impossible, idealistic goal. It would be like expecting everyone to have an athletic ability which surpasses Michael Jordan. We cannot even bring ourselves to the outward standard that the Pharisees represent, much less the perfection of an inward standard which Jesus says will characterize His followers.

It is amazing to see how many people, even today, try to please God in their own strength with outward works. They wear themselves out with church attendance, ministry, and giving. Unconsciously or not, they believe God will bless them because of their works. Consider a couple who told me they did not agree with what the church was doing with their money, but they continued to tithe anyway because they did not want to lose God’s "blessing" on their finances. This is the logic of Pharisees blinded by their own self-righteousness. Such unwavering support of religious things would appear to be applauded by God, but Jesus says it counts for nothing insofar as the Kingdom is concerned.

Jesus leads us down an impossible path, and demands of us a righteousness that not only looks good outwardly, but looks good inwardly. Are you beginning to understand why few are able to follow this Way? The word translated "narrow" means "difficult to pass through because of many obstacles standing about". More and more I am finding that it is Jesus who puts these obstacles in front of us. And this is one of the biggest hurdles ”“ how to have a righteousness that exceeds a Pharisee but does not turn me into a Pharisee. What a dilemma!

5. Apart from much tribulation, you cannot enter.

"[Paul and Barnabas] strengthened the disciples and encouraged them to continue in the faith, saying, "We must enter the Kingdom of God through much tribulation (Acts 14:22)."

This does not sound like something which would strengthen and encourage young disciples. If Paul and Barnabas brought this message to some churches they would not be invited back. Our idea of overcoming is to avoid tribulation, not pass through it. We certainly do not connect entering the Kingdom with going through tribulation. We think having the victory means eliminating all tribulation. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In order to enter the Kingdom there must be an increase of Christ and a decrease of Self. This is an ongoing process, and by it we judge how far along the Path we have progressed. But how is Self decreased? We cannot do it by saying over and over, "I have to die. I have to decrease. I have to take up my cross." The more we try to decrease the more we are increased. Any attention we give to ourselves, even in an attempt to decrease ourselves, only serves to make us larger. So what is the answer? The answer is in our circumstances and trials. They are sufficient to decrease us. We need not do anything but wait for them to come, and see them as our opportunity to have Self decreased and Christ increased.

There are some who want the full-knowledge of Christ and want to advance along the narrow path. But they resist the dealings of God which are meant to push them farther along and deeper into Christ. On the one hand they want more of God, but on the other hand they do not want to experience what they must experience in order to see Him. Hence, they unnecessarily delay the work of the Cross. They find fault with their circumstances, murmur, complain, and resist every contrary thing. After ten, twenty, or thirty years of being dealt with they are still as stubborn and headstrong as ever.

Some have no depth in God because they have no depth of circumstances. Their life has been relatively easy. Even what we think are huge trials, Paul calls "light afflictions". Here is a man who has some depth of circumstances. The biographies of these men reveal they have had hard lives, both before and after knowing the Lord. If we desire ease and comfort then we will not have much depth. The Lord Jesus is "a Man of sorrows, and familiar with grief." It is better to agree with the Word of God, and realize that we cannot enter the Kingdom except through much tribulation. If we want to reign with Him, we must suffer with Him.

6. Unbelief and disobedience is enough to disqualify you.

"So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief… some will enter that rest, but they to whom it was first preached did not enter in because of their disobedience (Hebrews 3:19; 4:6)."

The people referred to here are the Hebrews, most of whom died in the wilderness between Egypt, (representing the bondage of sin) and the Promised Land (representing the Kingdom of God). In First Corinthians 10:1-11, Paul says that they were ALL delivered, they ALL passed through the sea, they ALL ate the manna and ate the meat and drank the water from the Rock, Who is Christ. In spite of this they were not pleasing to God and they were destroyed in the wilderness. Twice we are told these things happened as an example to us. Why were they destroyed? Because of disobedience. They never lived out of all God had for them. They missed the fullness.

Upon hearing this message many become concerned about their relationship with God, and rightfully so. They have been taught that because God brought them out of Egypt, fed them manna, and gave them water that now they are set for life and can do as they please. Again, we are not questioning anyone’s inward condition before God. There is no need to. Our own heart will either convince us or convict us. If we are in the Path we know it; and if we are not, inwardly we know that as well.

What we are endeavoring before God is to show His people that the issue of Life dwelling in us today is not based upon a confession that was made years, months, weeks, or days ago. It is not based on mighty works done in the Name of Jesus. It is not based on spiritual gifts or experiences. It certainly is not based on church membership or attendance. Life today is immediately and directly related to whether or not we are abiding in Christ! This abiding is a continual thing, and this continual abiding WILL (not might) result in fruitfulness. Without the fruit, we cannot claim to be abiding in Him at all.

The Hebrews’ immediate concern was to get out of Egypt, but God’s concern was getting them to enter the Promised Land. It was relatively simple to get them out of Egypt, but only two men out of several million of that first generation reached God’s goal and crossed the Jordan. I think the problem is this: we have "going to heaven when we die" as the ultimate goal, and Christ has "entering the Kingdom of God" as the ultimate goal. Do we want to "just" go to heaven when we die, or do we want the preeminence of Christ expressed in "Your Kingdom come, Your Will be done, on earth [now] AS IT IS in heaven"? If we continue to preach an easy Gospel and bring sinners to an easy Jesus by having them pray an easy prayer then we are guilty of propagating another gospel, a false gospel, a Gate without a Path. Thank God for the Gate, but there is a Path, and neither of them are wide, and neither one of them are easy. But do we preach this?

7. The wealthy will find it virtually impossible to enter.

"Jesus looked around at His disciples, and said, ‘How hard it is for those with riches to enter the Kingdom of God!’ And the disciples were astonished at this saying. But Jesus repeated, ‘Children, how difficult it is for those trusting in wealth to enter the Kingdom of God! I tell you the truth, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God (Mark 10:23-25).'"

We have saved the best for last. It seems this rich young ruler came to Jesus as a model "seeker", having obeyed all the commandments from his childhood. If ever there was someone ready to walk the aisle, sign a decision card, or pray the Sinner’s Prayer it was this man. He actually ran up to Jesus! Surely there is a future apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, or teacher in this one! At the very least he can use his wealth to help support Jesus Christ World Outreach Ministries, Inc. No soulwinner or fisher of men worth his salt would let this catch get away.

But instead of doing what we would do, Jesus pinpoints the very thing that is going to keep him from entering the Kingdom, and throws it up in front of Him as an obstacle to entering. As soon as the rich young ruler knows the cost, he turns away, grieving, and we never see or hear from him again. It is interesting that Jesus, even though He loved him, just watched him go. Does this sound like an easy Jesus? Does this sound like a soulwinner? What kind of fisher of men is this? What a contrast to the way we solicit converts every Sunday, with repeated altar calls and singing that hymn "just one more time" to give everyone an opportunity to come forward. Eventually, under such pressure, someone always does. But have they really counted the cost, or did we just make it sound too cheap? A cheap Gospel results in cheap disciples with no depth of root.

The Jews had been taught that material prosperity was a proof-positive sign of God’s blessing (not too unlike some of the teaching we hear today). That is why Scripture records the shock and amazement of the disciples when Jesus announces that rich people will have a hard time entering the Kingdom. According to the way He words it we have to assume that it is well nigh impossible, more difficult than getting a camel to go through the eye of a needle. I have known some rich people, and I can affirm what Jesus says. It is most difficult for Him to have the preeminence over someone with great wealth. Even people of modest means can still be bound by riches, pursuing wealth or blessings, hoping to make it big one day. The pursuit of wealth is as dangerous as the accumulation of wealth.

The point is not that every disciple must be penniless. The point is that in this Kingdom, Christ alone has the preeminence, and you cannot serve two masters. Why are riches such a stumblingblock? It all relates to Self. For the rich man, Self is mostly represented in his riches. For the wise man, Self is mostly represented in his wisdom. For the good man, Self is mostly represented in his goodness. For the strong man, Self is mostly represented in his strength. YOU are your biggest obstacle to entering in. Why? Because there is no room in the Kingdom of God for Christ and Self. To leave the Kingdom of Self and enter the Kingdom of God is indeed a Narrow Path that few ever find.

WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED?

"His disciples were astonished beyond measure, saying among themselves, ‘Who then can be saved?’ Jesus looked at them and said, ‘With men, it is impossible! But not with God; for with God all things are possible (Mark 10:26,27).'"

If you have endured everything said up to this point perhaps you are angry, confused, burdened, or amazed, just like the first disciples of Jesus, that entering the Kingdom is not as easy as you had at first thought. The Scriptures tell us that the Lord Jesus is "full of grace and truth." With Truth comes Grace, and we will now conclude with how God accomplishes this impossible work by Grace.

Let us review all that is required of us in order to enter the Kingdom. We must be born again. In addition to saying, "Lord, Lord" we must actually do the Father’s will. We have to humble ourselves like children. We should be more righteous than a Pharisee without becoming a hypocrite. We must endure tribulation joyfully. We ought never disobey or show lack of faith. We have to give up every vestige of Self, whatever we love the most, whether it be money, pride, natural wisdom, friends, family, position or status. On top of all this we are told that many will try to enter in but will not be able to. So the odds are against us already. Then Jesus says, "It is impossible with man." That eliminates self-effort altogether.

Some will say, "Oh yes, I can do all these things." Very well. My advice to those who think they can do it is: keep trying! Perhaps one day you will come to the end of yourself. But the rest of us already know better. The disciples, absolutely dumbfounded by this time, were beginning to question this among themselves: "Who in the world can be saved?" And Jesus frankly said, "It is impossible with man." Please note we are using "saved" in its ultimate intention of being established in the Kingdom of God, not merely going to heaven when we die, for that is the context in which it is used in this passage. Jesus says you cannot do it, I cannot do it, no human being can do this.

Where does God’s grace begin? It begins with man’s impossibility. It begins with "I cannot". It does NOT begin with "All these things have I done from my youth until now." As long as it is possible with man, there is no need for grace. We may be able to fulfill six out of seven things, or ninety-nine out of one hundred things, but when we meet Jesus on the grounds of self-effort there is always "one thing thou lackest." And this "one thing" is going to stop us dead in our tracks every single time, no matter how perfect we otherwise are. The Lord is waiting for us to know and to confess, "I cannot". For He can do what we cannot do; and He will do what we will not do! And once we allow Him, He brings us to where He wants us to be in a most remarkable manner.

"I am the Door [Gate]… by Me if any man enter in, he shall be saved (John 10:9a)."

"‘So how can we know the way?’ Jesus answered, ‘I am the Way [Path]’… (John 14:5,6ff)."

What is impossible with man is possible with God. Jesus is the Narrow Gate whereby we enter in and are saved. This much is obvious. So what is the Path? Is it being a good disciple? Is it fasting and prayer? Is it living a more holy life? Is it attending church or doing great works for God? Not at all. For Jesus tells us, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life." The Narrow Gate is Christ, and the Narrow Path is Christ. This explains why the Gate and the Path are so narrow. There is no room for you at all. There is no room for self-effort. There is only room for Christ.

To enter the Kingdom is to lay down my life and live the Life of Another. The very thing which frustrates me is the answer to my problem: since I cannot do it, I have to depend upon the Life of Another to do what I cannot do. Hallelujah! I cannot enter again into my mother’s womb and be born again, because I am too old; I cannot be faithful to do God’s will at all times, because I am rebellious; I cannot humble myself and be like a child, because I am too proud; I cannot have a righteousness that is outwardly perfect and inwardly pure, because I am a hypocrite; I cannot endure tribulation with joy, because I love myself too much; I cannot find my way out of Egypt and into Canaan, because I am disobedient; I cannot just give away from everything I have worked for all my life, because I am selfish. I cannot, and you cannot, and no one can. This Gate and this Path is too narrow, too demanding. It is impossible.

Only one Man has perfectly fulfilled all these requirements ”“ the Lord Jesus Christ ”“ and this Man lives in me now. I thank God that what is impossible with me is easy achievable with Him! "As you have received the Lord Jesus Christ [Gate], so walk in Him [Path] (Colossians 2:6)." We come to the Lord admitting that we cannot save ourselves, and He does the saving. That is the Gate. Now we come to the Lord every day, admitting that we cannot enter the Kingdom, and He does what it takes to conform us into His image. That is the Path. Hence, I have no secret for the Christian Life, but Christ. I have no key, but Christ. I have no method, but Christ. I have no formula, but Christ. I have no technique, but Christ. I have no life, but Christ for it is no longer I that lives, it is Christ that lives in me (Galatians 2:20a). In Him, through Him, because of Him, by Him we may enter the Kingdom.

Lord Jesus Christ, I thank You that You are my Way, my Truth, and my Life! I praise You that I cannot save myself. I praise You that I cannot enter the Kingdom. As I trusted in You to bring me out of Egypt, so I trust in You to bring me into the Promised Land. As I have received You, so I will walk in You. You are my Narrow Gate, and You are my Narrow Path. As I am decreased, You are increased, and my life is exchanged for Your Life. I thank you, Lord, that through You we may enter the Kingdom. Amen.

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Elibeth

Sandra,
Glad you have this interst,of the kingdom of God,with us.
'I do hope we can continue for the rich information,and our questions
about this great mystery of the kingdom of God.

* You ask,"we live in the world,but not of it,so says Jesus,..How is that possible ?

I believe it is because He,Jesus wants us to set our heart / effections on things on things above,heavenly things,..not on things of the earth,..

To live in the Spirit,led by the Spirit,walk in the Spirit,..
That is what Paul preached,....( things pertaining to the kingdom of God )

Thank you,Sandra,

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elizabeth

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sermonindex

According to this article,(bible dictionary)
https://www.studylight.org/dictionaries/hbd/view.cgi?n=3022
"Inheritance
A legal transmission of property after death. The Hebrew Bible has no exclusive term for "inheritance.” The words often translated "inherit” mean more generally "take possession.” Only in context can they be taken to mean "inheritance.” The Greek word in the New Testament does refer to the disposition of property after death, but its use in the New Testament often reflects the Old Testament background more than normal Greek usage."

I always thought that enter and inherit were the same, but now I am not sure.

I heard an explanation that we inherit as the wife of Christ, but now we are only the bride...

Here is an other question: When do we enter/inherit the Kingdom of God? When we are born again or when we die in Christ or some other time.

I think we are now in the Kingdom but then I don't Know how to explain this verse:

Acts 14:22
confirming the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that through many tribulations we must enter into the kingdom of God.

Is it possible that the expression "Kingdom of God" refers to two different things depending on where in the Scripture it is used?

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sermonindex

As I was thinking on my own question, I remembered the Israelites when they saw/entered/possessed the promised land.
Through this analogy many scripture can be understood about the Kingdom of God.

There are (seemingly) other inheritances:
Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Psalm 2:8
Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

How are these related to the Kingdom of God?

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sermonindex

tuc many thanks for that. It is my understanding perfectly explained. We are only saved when we enter into the kingdom.

S
sermonindex

"Mt.13:41,
Jesus speaking,..." The Son of man shall send forth His angels,and they shall gather OUT OF HIS KINGDOM all things that offend,and them that do iniquity."

Question:
How do we offend ? What is He saying ?
Can we enter the kingdom of God and become ' NOT as a little child,..
teachable,...bendable ? .....not willing to follow Him,the King ?

We must be in the kingdom,before we can be ' gathered out'

When is the Angels going to be sent forth,and gather OUT OF THE KINGDOM,all things that offend.?"

Consider these verses. Are they not talking about the same thing?
John 15
2
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
6
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

So on one hand what he takes out is our imperfections through the renewing our mind and sanctification. On the other hand he can take us out entirely if we do not listen and as a result can not be sanctified.

Edited for clarity.

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brothagary

Thy kindom come ,thy will be done ,

I think when jesus said he will gather all those in the kindom who are sinfull,speaks of a time at the seconed come, when the kindoms of this world ,have become the kindom of the lord and his christ .

The sickle will be thrust at that time , and all those who do not obey the gosple will be cut of from among the living .....

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brothagary

This speaks of a future translation


14The second woe has passed. Behold, the third woe is coming quickly. 15Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: "The kingdom of the world is now the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.” 16And the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshiped God,…

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brothagary

With respect ,christ is not all in all ,in us ,till our glorafied bodies are given ,for we still have flesh in us ,even when it does not dominate us ,its there ,,

Christs kingdom is a kingdom of life ,not of death ,for he is the god of the living not the dead ,,,we still live in the kindom of coruption ,as evidently we will rot in the grave .. Till he comes in flaming fire taking vengence on those who no not god and obey not the gosple ,

In the twingling of an eye !

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