Hillary Clinton-Clear and present danger?

Thought I would write about where I really stand since many of my friends have assumed, wrongly, that I am a supporter of Donald Trump. Makes me smile actually, for those who really know me know that I do not vote and I do not believe Christians belong in politics. It's a pig sty and when you roll around in a pig sty you know what happens.

Now, I have written for years about hypocrisy. It is something that Jesus roundly condemned. The Pharisees were the only people who really caught it from Jesus, He did not hold back in his criticism of them. He completely ignores the Romans, not a single harsh word about them, but slams the Pharisees whom he refers to as hypocrites and white washed tombstones, meaning they looked good on the outside but He knew exactly what they were like on the inside.

Now remember, the Romans were evil brutish people who for entertainment would roast people and crucify them and feed them to animals and do other things that were so horrendous you could not right about them. But, they were what they were, they did not pretend to be anything other than what they were. The Pharisees on the other hand were " actors," which is the Greek word for hypocrite. What they said in public was not what they said or did behind closed doors. And so, I have always reserved my criticism for hypocrisy.

I lost quite a few friends for severely criticising George Bush, the golden boy of the Evangelicals. Yet, his actions spoke louder than any words. Now this election cycle my focus has been on the actor, the one who says one thing publicly but in private is a completely different person. So let me say this loud and clear, Hilary Clinton is a clear and present danger to born again Christians. Not religious people who call themselves Christians, but actual Christians.

She and her supporters will come after anyone whom she considers to be deplorable. Now, one of her tests for being deplorable is how someone views homosexuality. If you view it to be a sin, then , in her and her supporters eyes you are a homophobic and deplorable and irredeemable. Now, the meaning of that word is " beyond all hope." I want Christians to know that the stage is being set for persecution. Within eight years of a Hilary administration, it will be illegal to speak to the issue I just mentioned in public. It will be a litmus test for every pastor and church in the land. Now, the answer to that is not Donald Trump, it is Jesus Christ.

There are no answers for the saints in Washington DC. Persecution is coming and saints, it will be your friends and family that will be doing the persecution. Yet this is exactly how the Scriptures says it would happen in the great falling away. So, our hope is in Jesus and we shall stand strong in Him and even if the whole world turns against us we shall not be moved. Be encouraged saints, greater is the Spirit within you, than the spirit that is in the world...........bro Frank

Religious Freedom
TIM DUKEMAN
AUGUST 3RD, 2016
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Many prominent conservatives are trying to soft-pedal just how devastating a Hillary Clinton presidency will be. I contend that they simply don't understand what her election will mean for America.

Hillary will ban Christian colleges, elementary schools, and secondary schools by requiring them to hire unbelievers.

Hillary will purge Christians from government jobs (the same way Kelvin Cochran was purged)

Hillary will purge Christian contractors (such as charities) from working for the government in any capacity.

Hillary will go after homeschoolers with everything in her power.

Hillary will force Christians to pay for abortions.

Hillary will attack churches, giving her allies what they want by taking away tax-exempt status, and allowing her to punish dissenters (read: Christians).
If what her allies in Iowa are trying to do is any indication, Hillary will even close down churches!

Hillary will force Christians out of any medical professions, closing Christian hospitals and purging Christian doctors who won't violate their conscience.

Hillary will force Christians out of any counseling-related jobs, by requiring counselors (and related jobs) to sign a statement affirming their commitment to promoting homosexuality, transsexuality, etc. as a condition for being licensed by the state. Non-licensed counseling will be banned, just like reparative therapy.

Hillary will do things far worse than we can currently imagine. If you're skeptical, consider this question: did anyone anticipate in 2008 that Barack Obama would try to force Christians to buy abortions, force Catholics to buy contraception, or force schools to let boys into the girls' locker room and showers?

I should clarify that I do not expect Hillary to personally accomplish every single item on the above list, though I do expect her to make significant progress. We are talking about a President who will have been officially declared above the law before even taking office. To any Christians who think that a Republican Congress (which will not happen) would be able to restrain Hillary: I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you. Hillary will accomplish her goals through legislation, and failing that, through executive orders, bureaucratic rules that must be complied with before they can be challenged, and pure, unfiltered lawlessness. Obama has already written the playbook; she will merely have to follow it. The Founding Fathers put several restrictions on the power of the Presidency, but most of them are out the window in 2016, and the expansion of executive power is about to get far worse.

I do expect that her Supreme Court justices will accomplish whatever she fails to get done. Whether they do so before or after she leaves office is the only thing in question. We know what liberal jurisprudence looks like: if it furthers liberal policy goals, it is consitutional. If a law goes against liberal policy goals, its proponents want to bring back Jim Crow.

It's not that Hillary's election would be the end of the world. It would be no such thing. But in many important ways, Hillary's election would be the end of America. If she is elected, we should change our name, because we will no longer be the country founded by men such as Patrick Henry and James Madison, and we should not tarnish their good names by associating ourselves with them. If she is elected, we will tell our grandchildren in hushed tones what America used to be like, back when it was free, because tyranny became unstoppable in 2016. They will grow up in a country unimaginable to people who have always had freedom.

If @HillaryClinton wins, our children will grow up in a country unimaginable to free people.””@TDukeman
At this point in the conversation, I want to stress a couple of things: first, that I am not saying that every Christian has a duty to vote for Trump in an effort to stop Hillary. Second, I recognize that Christ's church will persist (in some form) regardless of what happens in government. Jesus, the Good Shepherd, will ensure that all of His sheep are gathered into the fold.

I am asking all of my readers to think long and hard about this election, and I hope that we can all discuss these issues with charity, honesty, and humility. That means refusing to minimize what we face in this election: there can be no doubt that Hillary will do devastating damage to the country, and America may never recover. Surrendering to Hillary is nothing less than giving up on America. It may be that America is already dead, but some Christians see a way for the Land of the Free to continue to live up to its name.

I'm not settled on what to do at the ballot box. I am absolutely convinced that I'm not going to condemn my brother if he looks at the above list and concludes that he has to vote for Trump to preserve our way of life. I hope you won't condemn him either. I'll leave you with the words of a Christian leader who is feeling the wrath of Hillary's allies already:

"So, the question remains, how will we respond? Will we doubt God’s sovereignty and disobey his commands by compromising in order to make life comfortable? Or will we, like Martin Luther who faced a similar choice, stand firm and say, "Unless I am convinced by the testimony of the Scriptures or by clear reason. . . I am bound by the Scriptures . . . and my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and will not recant anything since it is neither safe nor right to go against my conscience”.

There is no question. We will not bow. "
--Pastor John MacArthur, on California SB 1146, which will ban Christian colleges.

-bbs-

Narrowpath writes............

"Prepare a people for yourself that follow you no matter what."

I believe brother that is what He is doing as we speak, He is and has been preparing a people for the coming storm. This election proves that this country is under judgement. Terrible choice presented to the people but if you look closely, both these candidates with all their faults, are pretty representative of the population as a whole. People typically get the leaders they deserve. As for the saints, we must not be caught up in fray. Now, I don't believe that means we do not speak the truth in love with boldness, we must speak the truth in love with boldness, it is our calling, we are a light in the darkness. We are the salt of the earth, it is through us that goodness and light prevail. Even as they turn on us, and they will with boldness, very soon, we must still be that light, that salt, that boldness and fearlessness for the cause of Christ. It is indeed by the Blood of the Lamb, the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto death that they overcome..................bro Frank

It has to be clear that there is no answer in politics, God is clearly showing this to true believers. We need to obey God and His kingdom and not worry as much about the kingdoms of men that are faltering and will all oppose sons of light in the end.

Persecution indeed is coming.

Brother D writes...........

".no matter who gets in I think we can see the handwriting on the wall for this country and the path of destruction we are headed into. At best Trump may only be a temporary reprieve from whats to come, but in the end this country I believe must fall because God is a just God and I believe our cup of iniquity is almost full. God Bless bro DMiller"

Amen brother, this is exactly right. My piece is actually about warning the saints, which is really what I do on my web site, to get ready for the coming persecution. The ins and outs of American politics are neither here nor there. I have often been wearied listening to folks talking incessantly about freedoms and founding fathers and liberties. The only liberty I know, the only freedom that I know is the freedom wrought for me on the bloody battleground of Calvary by Jesus. Freedom given by men can be taken away by men. The freedom that I have through Christ, no one can take away even if I were languishing at the bottom of a dungeon. The greatest idol in America is America itself, the very notion of it is mythologized and worshiped by one side, and on the other side, are spoiled children, rubbish it. But whatever side one is on in that argument is the wrong side.

My warning to my readers about Hillary Clinton stands and it has zero to do with politics. She and the establishment she and her husband head up are a global wide network of elitists who have complete contempt for the man in the street and the child in the womb. They are to them, deplorable and irredeemable. They will outlaw any one who stands upon the fundamental truths of the Bible. The next truth they will come after is the notion that there is but one way to heaven and that is through the Lord Jesus. It has already been attempted in Britain and Canada. The time is coming where we shall have to stand up and be counted, not for a single issue but simply for truth. A few hundred years ago tens of thousands of saints were killed for standing up for the truth that infant baptism was wrong. Millions found themselves at the hands of the torturers because they refused to acknowledge that a piece of bread was Jesus

Our generation will face it’s own mighty challenges that will directly flow counter to the culture. This is good because we were never called to be a sub-culture, we were called to be a counter culture. Who will put his face down and walk into the rain and the storm. Most will go with the wind at their backs.............bro Frank

Hi Sandra,

It will undoubtedly be the religious folks working hand in hand with the state that will persecute the saints........bro Frank

Oh wow brother Tom, well said and I 100% agree with you and so glad you took the time to make this statement.

I think maybe my time away from facebook is coming to an end. I may see you on there soon...just not sure I am in the mood to spar with anyone though lol.

Much love to you brother Tom, glad you are back on SI.

Pray for our country....that HIS will be done this election.

Who knows, perhaps the Lord Jesus will have mercy on this country the way He did with Ninneveh and allow us more time to repent. This is not the time to be silent, but we must do all things in the way that pleases the Lord.

Titus 3:3 Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men. 3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men.

9 But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless. 10 Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.

1 Timothy 2: Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, 7 for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle””I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying””a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.

Amen Mike, Amen

brother Tom, people who are too heavily minded to vote or show any interest in determining the outcome of elections certainly go to a lot of trouble to keep up with all this earthly nonsense online lol.

If they are so spiritual to take an interest in these matters why do they complain and moan about how quickly the country is going to hell in a hand basket? They remind me of christians who jump up and down about healing being all a part of Gods sovereign plan but then they fight against Gods sovereignty and run off to the doctor anytime they get sick:-)

Colossians 3:1-4 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.

Brethren are these the heavenly minded people you were talking about? If so, please point me in their direction for I would love to fellowship with them. At least let my prayer be, God make me heavenly minded as Paul writes about in Colossians 3:1-4.

-bbs-

Peter 4:17-19New American Standard Bible (NASB)

For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved what will become of the godless man and the sinner? Therefore, those also who suffer according to the will of God shall entrust their souls to a faithful Creator in doing what is right.

Brethren if HRC is elected then God will certainly use her to bring judgment upon the household of God. Peter wtites that if "judgment begins with us first". Meaning that if judgement begins with those of us who are in the household of faith. Meaning that judgment will certainly be the purifying fire of persecution to perfect and refine our faith in Jesus Christ. The purifying fire of persecution that will certainly bring forth that faith remnant bride of Christ here in America.

We are presumptuously arrogant if we assume that we will escape the fires of persecution while other brethren in places like North Korea have sail through the stormy seas. Indeed the North Korean brethren are praying for us that we will go through the fire of persecution to be truly set free in Christ and to be delivered from our love of the things of the world. I speak in reference to the church in America. That is the professing, evangelical church.

Sister Sheri is right in that whatever occurs in the Presidential election will be in the sovereign will of God. His Sovereign will may be to use Hillary Rodham Clinton to bring a refining fire of persecution to the American church.

Thus the question for us as believers in Jesus is how will we respond if she is elected the President of the United States. I suppose the answer to that question must wait until tomorrow.

These are simply my thoughts.

-bbs-

Just one more thought...

If HRC is elected. Then God will certainly expose those false prophets who have prophesied that DT would win the election.

If DT wins the election. Those false prophets will see a greater deception come into the church.

Either way the Presidential election will certainly be interesting. But in the end. Its decision will be from the Lord. In the end the Lord will decide who will occupy the White House.

Psalm 75:6-7...

For not from the east, nor from the west,
Nor from the desert comes exaltation;

But God is the Judge;
He puts down one and exalts another.

Simply my thoights.

-bbs-

Bro, when tomorrow is all said and done and no matter WHO gets elected, I think we're going to hear a great cry rise to the heavens. God help us all.

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So agree my sister. So agree.

-bbs-

brother bear, is it heavenly minded to be discussing politics in any form at all on any medium? Such as this thread:-) If that is the case then keeping up with the news and knowing what is going on in the world is also a sign of not being heavenly minded right? If we are going to say one thing is not heavenly minded then lets just keep going. As the Apostle Paul said of the Judaisers...if you are going to circumcise yourselves then don't stop there but go the whole way and castrate yourselves!

Get the picture...ew, actually hopefully you don't lol.

...Duh Huh...

You postum in unknown tongues...

:)

-bbs-

Todd asked

"Why would God install a militant abortionist into the White House?"

You have your answer.

D.Miller wrote:

"As to Hillary? If elected she won't sit long in that position since The Lord has rejected her from being President"

Now that was a genuine prophetic utterance indeed.

Quote: "We should not expect politicians to bring in righteousness. It is only the gospel proclaimed through the church that will bring any change to a society."

Absolutely agree.

The Lord is being merciful and we must choose what we will do with the reprieve thats been handed down to us. Its time to get serious about the kingdom of God and be busy doing what He asks no matter the cost. Now is the time.