Any thoughts about the research and experiments they do at CERN ?
CERN and the time we are living in?..
In my opinion we are living in the end times....
CERN is the European Organization for Nuclear Research located in Switzerland. The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the world’s largest and most powerful particle accelerator.
For a long time I'm really concerned about CERN...
I am curious if there are certain sources you are reading/watching that has made you concerned.
CERN first got my attention around 2010/2012 I found the location (in France) of the building interesting. It is called "Saint-Genus-Poilly.” The name Pouilly comes from the Latin "Appolliacum” and it is believed that in Roman times a temple existed in honor of Apollo, and the people who lived there believed that it is a gateway to the underworld. It is interesting to note that CERN is built on the same spot.
in 2012 They where after the so-called ‘God particle,’ which allows other particles to build up mass as they pass through the Higgs field.
Steve Hawking wrote about this; " The God particle found by CERN could destroy the universe..."
I think they are messing around with spiritual dimensions...black holes...and dark spiritual identities...
The Grand opening, for instance, was loaded with occult symbols and messages.
The logo of CERN is made out of the number 666.
CERN has chosen as its mascot the Hindu goddess Shiva.
Just outside of its headquarters building sits an ancient statue to Shiva, ancient Apollyon, the goddess of destruction.
And I can go on ...there is just so much to say about CERN and the world of darkness.
Sergio Bertolucci, former Director for Research and Scientific Computing of the facility, told a British tabloid the super collider could open otherworldly doors to another dimension for "a very tiny lapse of time,” mere fractions of a second. However, that may be just enough "to peer into this open door, either by getting something out of it or sending something into it.”...
After 2010 I have read some books and watched some things on the internet about CERN.
And have seen a lot of things I don't buy... other things make a lot of sense though...
we wrestle not against flesh and blood...but against spiritual wickedness...
Obviously you have to be somewhat cautious of what you read on the internet.
Do you believe there are otherworldly doors to other dimension? Science also pushes the multiverse- The idea that there is an endless number of other "yous" living a different- perhaps subtly- life. If true, what if the other "you" does not get "saved?" Does that mean that one version of you will be in heaven and one in hell? What if the other version of you has already died in a parallel universe? What is the fate of that "you?"
These rhetorical questions, for me at least, show that a multiverse cannot be true.
Oh no, I don't believe in "other you's"...in the multiverse.
Perhaps one of those other dimensions is a place where "locusts "-demons" are held until the time comes when they will be released?
Where Revelation 9 is referring to.
Revelation 9-11King James Version (KJV)
9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
That is essentially what Stephen Kings "the mist" is about.
Never read any books of Stephen King...and never seen movies off this kind...I don't watch tv..:-))
Do you think I'm on the wrong track brother?
I think you have to be careful what you are reading and watching online. There are a lot of people scaring others with videos full of misinformation and outright lies.
Also, if we trust that God is in control of all, that He is the All-Knowing and the All-Powerful God who is in control of all. Why do we need to fear anything? He will take care of it all.
Having said that, CERN is a scientific endeavor. CERN is a particle accelerator. What does that mean? They take parts of the atom and accelerate them to incredible speeds and then bombard them against other atomic particles. This is a tool in understanding the properties of subatomic particles.
I do not think any of this is spiritual. Opening other dimensions? I do not think that the particle accelerator will "open spiritual dimensions." First, what does that even mean? All of the spiritual dimensions are active right now, so there is not some mysterious dimension that needs to be opened. And it is God who controls whatever is left (the bottomless pit, for example) and no scientist is going to override God.
Second, these scientist may have been speaking of a scientific idea that there are "other universes" in "alternate dimensions" (not spiritual ones, but other physical dimensions). There are not many scientists who believe this.
Third, I find it hard to believe that a scientist spoke to a tabloid newspaper. Why would they speak to a publication of low repute? Especially a scientist working at such a prestigious institution.
Another thing, the logo for CERN is not meant to be three 6s. It is meant to symbolize the super-collider itself, plus the tracks of the particles.
This is from the CERN website:
"The particles are made to collide together at close to the speed of light. The process gives the physicists clues about how the particles interact, and provides insights into the fundamental laws of nature.The instruments used at CERN are purpose-built particle accelerators and detectors. Accelerators boost beams of particles to high energies before the beams are made to collide with each other or with stationary targets. Detectors observe and record the results of these collisions."
The logo depicts a "schematic of a synchrotron, beam lines and particle tracks"
Thanks for your reaction.
I agree you should be careful what too watch on the internet.
And for sure I'm agreeing that God is in total control of everything.
And I'm not afraid...indeed, when fearing God I have nothing else to fear.
___This is from the CERN website:
"The particles are made to collide together at close to the speed of light. The process gives the physicists clues about how the particles interact, and provides insights into the fundamental laws of nature.The instruments used at CERN are purpose-built particle accelerators and detectors. Accelerators boost beams of particles to high energies before the beams are made to collide with each other or with stationary targets. Detectors observe and record the results of these collisions."___
So why does CERN have a picture of a demonoc Hindu goddess in front of it's headquarters?
Bro Blaine
Quote: "And it is God who controls whatever is left (the bottomless pit, for example) and no scientist is going to override God."
Great point and great post!
But I ask again why does CERN have a statue of a Hindu goddess in front of its headquarters? If this merely coincidental?
Hinduism is a demonic religion. Just ask our brothers and sisters in India. So again why is CERN paying homage to a demonic religion by having a statue of Shiva in front of its headquarters. This is not tabloid. You can Google this.
Bro Blaine
LORD SHIVA STATUE UNVEILED
On 18 June, CERN unveiled an unusual new landmark, a 2m tall statue of the Indian deity Lord Shiva.
The Director-General and Dr. Kakodkar watch as Mr.Chandrasekhar signs the Guest Book.
The statue is a gift from India, celebrating CERN's long association with India which started in the 1960's and continues strongly today. It was unveiled by the Director General, Dr Robert Aymar, His Excellency Mr K. M. Chandrasekhar, Ambassador (WTO-Geneva) and Dr Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary, Dept of Atomic Energy, India.
In the Hindu religion, this form of the dancing Lord Shiva is known as the Nataraj and symbolises Shakti, or life force. As a plaque alongside the statue explains, the belief is that Lord Shiva danced the Universe into existence, motivates it, and will eventually extinguish it. Carl Sagan drew the metaphor between the cosmic dance of the Nataraj and the modern study of the 'cosmic dance' of subatomic particles.
The statue was made in India. The original sculpture was a wax model, around which a soil mould was made. Melting the wax left a hollow into which liquid metal was poured. Once cooled, the mould was split and the statue polished and given its antique finish.
The statue is on permanent display in the square between buildings 39 and 40, a short distance from the Main Building.
© CERN 2004-2017 - CERN Publications, IR-ECO-CO
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If CERN is a scientific institution doing research into subatomic physics. Then why is there a demonic Hindu statue in front of its headquarters?
In places like Sedona Arizona people try to summon psychic energy which is really demonic energy using crystals. Such people also believe that so-called psychic energy again which is demonic energy exist in places like Sedona.
Is it possible that CERN is merely a sophisticated means of calling forth demonic energy using a sub atomic accelerator instead of crystals. It seems like the viel between the physical and the spiritual is growing thin. It could be that God might allow CERN to be a means to open up a portal to hell to allow demons to be released. That to be to accomplish His redemptive purposes in the end times. But those that are in deception will believe that they are summoning forth some type of new age energy which again is demonic energy.
Simply my thoughts.
Bro Blaine
But yet your're on the internet? Does this mean you feel the content of the internet is better than TV? I'm not picking on you, I just like to try and understand folks better that say, they don't watch TV, but the're on the internet.Agnes said, I don't watch tv.
Bear-
Summoning demons via subatomic particle bombardment? There's gotta be an easier way- like using a Ouija board.
___Bear-
Summoning demons via subatomic particle bombardment? There's gotta be an easier way- like using a Ouija board.___
Ouija boards kids stuff. If you want to summon global demons you use a subatomic accelerator.,😊 At least that's my humble opinion. Probably need the heavy duty stuff to really summon forth the powers of hell.
Simply my thoughts.
Bro Blaine
Just in the news this week:
CERN Just Fast-Tracked Plans to Build a Particle Collider Three Times as Big as The LHC
And 7 times more powerful.
https://www.sciencealert.com/work-is-already-beginning-on-the-large-hadron-collider-s-replacement
Thanks for the link bro.Greg!
Interesting.
"But I ask again why does CERN have a statue of a Hindu goddess in front of its headquarters? If this merely coincidental?"
Well that's a very good question bro.Blain...
"But yet your're on the internet? Does this mean you feel the content of the internet is better than TV? I'm not picking on you, I just like to try and understand folks better that say, they don't watch TV, but the're on the internet."
Watching tv makes me tired most of the time.
There is seldom something on tv I'm interested in brother. And there is too much bad stuff for my eyes too see. Images filled with things that I don't want to see as a follower of Christ. Even in commercials.
Sometimes I watch a documentary ....and that's it.
On the internet I can directly go to what I'm looking for.
For me it works better this way.
I love silence, I love reading books.
Thanks for asking bro.BillPro.
Hope this answer your question?
Please can we leave it like this and let us not go sidetracked of my question about CERN.
Blessings to you!
Even Stephen Hawking has raised questions about CERN.
Bro Blaine.
Quote: "Ouija boards kids stuff. If you want to summon global demons you use a subatomic accelerator.,😊 At least that's my humble opinion. Probably need the heavy duty stuff to really summon forth the powers of hell. "
Haha now that gave me a good chuckle.
You asked about the statue; well the CERN folks say it was a gift from India and it took me about 5 seconds to find why they gave that gift. If you believe their explanation(and I have no reason not to) there was no hidden or insidious purpose. I guess the CERN folks could have rejected the gift but they probably did not want to be rude. Remember that CERN is not a Christian organization (although they claim persons of all faith work there) but that does not mean there is any nefarious goal other than studying subatomic particles.
Which begs the question- does anyone here believe that studying subatomic particles is sinful?
___Which begs the question- does anyone here believe that studying subatomic particles is sinful?___
Bro studying subatomic particles is not sinful. It is no more sinful than studying molecular biology. But what is the research being used for. If we believe it is being used for the betterment of humankind. Great! And we must admit wonderful technologies have come forth from science. Technology that make our life easier.
But as we have seen many times in history. Men will step in with dark hearts to use neutral technology do their own dark ends. We have certainly seen this with the military.
Right now there is stuff taking place in biological labs that makes Frankenstein look like a kindergarten book. Oftentimes it's under the guise of promoting medical research to better
our lives. But one must wonder what are being produced in these genetic laboratories and what horrors will come from their creations. It makes you wonder if the stuff we read about in Revelation is actually literal.
There is too much occultic significance surrounding CERN to dismiss as mere coincidence. The fact that it was built on the ruins of an old Temple worshipping Apollo. The fact that a Hindu goddess which is demonic is their mascot. This in and of itself should raise questions about the so-called scientific purposes of CERN period is it possible that there are those that worship Lucifer who want to summon forth and underground demonic army using a subatomic particle accelerator to supposedly open a door to another dimension. They may be opening the door to another dimension but the dimension may be hell itself.
Todd I'm do not want to come across as anti-scientific. But when science research starts a crossover and of boundaries that are reserved only for God Himself. I have to sit up and take notice.
Bro Blaine
I'm in total agreement with your answer bro Blaine.
Bro Greg If it is possible I would like to contact you privately..about something concerning CERN...
Just now I found a link...but would like you too see it first.
Is it possible to send the link to you?
It is a horrible thing to watch....it really is.
And I don't know if it is wise to share this on SI.
If its that supposed video of a human sacrifice in front of the statue, it was a hoax that is mentioned on CERNs own website which they have condemned. Apparently employees with a twisted sense of humor did it to get the goats of religious folks who were complaining about the statue.
Yes you're correct! the internet is so much cleaner, thanks for admitting you do watch TV. Have a Blessed day!Browny said...Sometimes I watch a documentary ....and that's it. And there is too much bad stuff for my eyes too see. Images filled with things that I don't want to see as a follower of Christ. Even in commercials.
Revelation 9:1-11
[___Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit. Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power. They were told not to hurt the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but only the men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. And they were not permitted to kill anyone, but to torment for five months; and their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it stings a man. And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, and death flees from them.
The appearance of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle; and on their heads appeared to be crowns like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. They had hair like the hair of women, and their teeth were like the teeth of lions. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots, of many horses rushing to battle. They have tails like scorpions, and stings; and in their tails is their power to hurt men for five months. They have as king over them, the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon.___]
Will God use CERN to release the above? With the apparent demonics involved, one must wonder???
Bro Blaine
[___If its that supposed video of a human sacrifice in front of the statue, it was a hoax that is mentioned on CERNs own website which they have condemned. Apparently employees with a twisted sense of humor did it to get the goats of religious folks who were complaining about the statue.___]
Brother of course CERN spin doctors are going to say that. Do you expect them to admit that they are luciferians honoring their god Lucifer whom we know as Satan?
Bro Blaine
Come on Bear. Who in the world with any credibility says they are Luciferians?
Maybe, just maybe, they are simply scientists with a very powerful tool?
Are astronauts and medical researchers etc etc all luciferians? Was Isaac Newton a luciferian? By golly he was a Christian.
Todd, brother with all due respect do you believe in the reality of Satan or do you think that he is a fairy tale?
For that matter I ask anybody in the forum do they believe in the reality of Satan or do they think that this is a fictional fairy tale that is put in the Bible?
I think believers who are baptized in the Holy Spirit will accept the reality of Satan and demons. For those who are baptized in the Holy Spirit acknuwledge a spiritual reality. Thus they acknowledge that there is a spiritual dimension. Believers who are baptized in the Holy Spirit Will acknowledge that there is a hell.
For the baptized Holy Spirit believer. Satan is real. Demons are real. Thus a Hindu demonic deity in front of a subatomic collider carries demonic significance. The fact that CERN is built over the ruins of a temple that worship Apollo who was a demonic deity carry significance.
These things are not to be overlooked by the Spirit-filled baptized believer in Christ.
Again simply my thoughts.
Bro Blaine
Once again....this are the words of the Former director of CERN Sergio Bertolucci. When he publicly admitted that the collider could potentially open up a "door” to "an extra dimension.”
His own words quoted here:
"Out of this door might come something, or we might send something through it,”
They have their own dark agenda...and it is satanic.
I'm convinced it has nothing good in store for humanity.
Bear you are making a mighty huge leap by inferring that those who do not believe in a satanic purpose behind CERN also do not believe in satan.
That is a non-sequitur of the first order and is a tactic that should be beneath you.
Of course I believe in the reality of satan. Won't capitalize his name though if I can help it.
[___Bear you are making a mighty huge leap by inferring that those who do not believe in a satanic purpose behind CERN also do not believe in satan.___]
Todd missionaries in foreign nations recognize the symbolism in demonic statues. To a Spirit-filled brother or sister in India a statue of the Hindu goddess is satanic. It has satanic overtones. Oftentimes the statues of Hindu gods and goddesses will be a gateway for demonic activity. That is assuming one believes in such.
Often the ones who do not believe in the reality of Satan and demons are the so-called evangelical Christians. Even those in pagan religions such as Islam or Hinduism or animism will acknowledge a spiritual realm. But evangelical Christians who are steeped in a Calvinistic tradition. Evangelical Christians that have saymt under the teaching of John MacArthur will generally discount satanic activity.
The fact that the mascot of CERN is a Hindu goddess cannot be overlooked. The fact that CERN was built on the ruins of an old temple that worshipped Apollo should not be overlooked. And the fact that the symbol of CERN representing 666 is just too darn weird. Coincidentally weird.
But I emphasize again that only Christians who aee baptized in the Holy Spirit will acknowledge the reality of a spiritual dimension. They will see the above is not merely coincidental. But will see that there is a gateway being opened up to hell to unleash all sorts of demonic activity.
I want to emphasize again that God is sovereign over all of this. He may very well use CERN to bring about the reality of Revelation 9:1-11. But then again that is assuming you accept Revelation or at least parts of it is being literal and not having being fulfilled in 70 AD.
Again bro. These are simply my thoughts.
Bro Blaine
Ok, I am very ignorant but do have a question: what practical use do scientists expect to earn from building this particle accelerator? Looks me like a bunch of scientists with little to do with too much money on their hands; and having an overactive imagination working to intimidate mere mortals.
Sandra
[___Ok, I am very ignorant but do have a question: what practical use do scientists expect to earn from building this particle accelerator?___]
Sandra the scientists would probably say to expand human knowledge. At least that would probably be the official spin line from the CERN website. As to what practicalities would come out of this. Probably very little if any.
I am prone to think that there is a darker agenda at work regarding CERN.
Again my sister. These are simply my thoughts.
Bro Blaine
Did Copernicus have a darker purpose when he figured out that the earth orbits the sun, or did madame curie have a darker purpose when she discovered radium?
So do you think CERN was intentionally (and allegedly) built on an old temple site or might it have been coincidental? This takes up a huge area and it had to be built on something.
And as previously stated the symbol is not 666 but rather a representation of the three accelerators.
My intention is not to defend CERN but rather to counter conspiracy theory and irrational thinking.
Do you think God would allow scientists to open a gateway to hell if He did not want them to? And if God wants them to, nobody is going to stop it.
___Do you think God would allow scientists to open a gateway to hell if He did not want them to?___
No
___And if God wants them to, nobody is going to stop it.___
Precisely.
Bro Blaine
"So do you think CERN was intentionally (and allegedly) built on an old temple site or might it have been coincidental? This takes up a huge area and it had to be built on something."
Yes brother Todd, I do believe CERN is built right on the spot they wanted it to have.
This place is not chosen overnight...
___My intention is not to defend CERN but rather to counter conspiracy theory and irrational thinking.___
And was Jesus Christ was not put to death by a conspiracy?
Look Todd, I'm not running around with aluminum foil on my head, okay? But there are things that are taking place which require us to be watchful and alert. You and I can go around and around on this thread about this demonics of CERN. If I bring up certain things about CERN that would suggest demonics. You will counter conspiracy theory. So as our brother Frank would say we must agree to disagree.
But I do believe there will be a rise of a future figure who will be the Antichrist and who will be possessed by Satan. I realize you hold to a 70 AD partial or full praetetist view of things. I also believe in the reality of Satan and demons. I have had some limited exposure to demonics. But if I were to share that, you would dismiss me as being paranoid and delusional.
I will simply restate my position that there is a demonic agenda at work in CERN. The fact that they have a mascot which is the Hindu goddess of Shiva. And the Demonic representation of such a statue is the destruction and destroyer of worlds should testify of the satanic demonic orientation of CERN. I cannot say it any clearer.
And I will echo again. These are simply my thoughts. But these are thoughts that I believe that are formed by the scriptures of God's word. I might also add that I have an experience of being baptized in the Holy Spirit. One who is baptized in the Holy Spirit understands that there is a spiritual realm apart from this natural world.
Todd I see from your posts that you operate in a rationalistic, natural view of things. I do not believe that you accept the reality of a spiritual realm both of the Holy Spirit and of Satan. You may say you believe in a spiritual realm with your mind. But the heart is another matter.
Anyway bro. Got to run. Let us agree to disagree on this.
Bro Blaine
I think CERN could be involved in more than science alone.
Quite a lot of scientists are saying the LHC possibly is a doomsday machine and are outspoken worried about it.
Makes me thinking CERN it is like a new Tower of Babel....they're climbing up into to the sky...breaking their way into dimensions unseen for our eyes...
Ok bear we can agree to disagree but your statement "I do not believe that you accept the reality of a spiritual realm both of the Holy Spirit and of Satan" I must state is patently false. I believe in all gifts of the HS including spiritual gifts and I certainly believe satan and demons are alive and well and working havoc.
However I do not believe that requires me to believe false conspiracy theories about things like CERN, HAARP, and proctor and gamble.
[___think CERN could be involved in more than science alone.
Quite a lot of scientists are saying the LHC possibly is a doomsday machine and are outspoken worried about it.
Makes me thinking CERN it is like a new Tower of Babel....they're climbing up into to the sky...breaking their way into dimensions unseen for our eyes...___]
Browney, Steve quayle's quote below confirms your Insight.
[___The men who would play God, in searching for the God particle, are truly going to find more than they bargained for as they open the gates of hell”
"they will find inter-dimensional beings who have a taste for human flesh and humanities destruction. Most scientists, in lacking an understanding of the ‘supernatural entities’ that are going to confront them, are way beyond their ability to comprehend, let alone control, the forces of Pandora’s box that will be released.”  we are warned by Stephen Quayle___]
Bro Blaine
"Browney, Steve quayle's quote below confirms your Insight."
Interesting brother Blaine. Thanks.
From God's word.......
Gen. 3:4-5
The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die! Â For God knows that in the day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God knowing good and evil."
Gen. 11:3-4
They said, " Come let us build for ourselves a city  and a tower, whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.
As I think of CERN I think of the two passages out of Genesis above. Â Is it possible scientist at CERN are playing God? Â Are they playing God by searching for the elusive God particle? Â Are they playing God by trying to recreate the Big Bang event? Â Are they playing God perhaps by trying to open the gates of hell itself and unleash demonic entities?
Simply my questiins.
Bro Blaine
Interdimensional beings?
If we believe if different dimensions why not the multiverse where there are an infinite number of other "me's"?
Steve Quayle-- Bear!!! Are you using him to support this nonsense?? Lord have mercy.
[___Steve Quayle-- Bear!!! Are you using him to support this nonsense?? Lord have mercy.___]
Todd,
... But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised...1 Cor. 2:14
If you are operating in a natural realm. Then such things as CERN demonics are going to be ridiculous to you. They will be just as ridiculous to you as Muslims coming to Christ in dreams and visions. Or the dead being raised by gospel teams and what we would call third-world nations.
Again I emphasize that those who are truly baptized in the Holy Spirit can really appreciate and understand the demonic forces that operate out of places like CERN.
It would appear that Steve Quayle has a better understanding of the reality of spiritual forces that are operating in this world today then many who would decry such things as Satan and demons as a figment of one's imagination. Or a belief in the demonics of CERN as conspiracy theory.
Again simply my thoughts.
Bro Blaine
Sister here is a link to an article you may find interesting,
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/313922-cern-collider-hadron-higgs/
Bro Blaine
Bear - did you read the article I posted about Quayle? He is a kook of the first order, the highest order.
And in regard to CERN being built on this temple of Apollyon- I dare you to find just one source that says this that does not also mention CERN in some negative conspiracy theory light. I have checked and this is entirely made up misinformation that has been posted and reposted for years. But no one ever bothers to check the actual facts.
Thanks brother Blaine, ...Just today I did found this myself....thanks anyway!
Once again it seems I am on my own in the forum combatting ridiculousness. It's hard for me to believe that everyone else here accepts these crazy ideas.
Todd, this could be the old saying "The Sky Is Falling" coming true.
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. James 1:27
Methinks you should find some orphans and widows in distress to look after, and then also, maybe do an internal cleanse!
"Todd, this could be the old saying "The Sky Is Falling" coming true."
I understand that's just a saying for you MrBillPro....?
Makes me wonder, when I see all the photos of the strange skies above CERN...if the The Sky isn't literally Falling apart ?
savannah...Thanks for the bible verse and your advice.
56 replies - wow, what a great post. Maybe some folk here have too much time on their hands...
I think there are more noble things than debating over CERN. I have a Christian friend who works there and he does not have the mark of the beast as far as I know. It is just a dumb hadron collider.
We could spent our entire life over issues like UN, Vatican, EU, Freemasons, Illuminati, UFO, WWW = VIVIVI = 3 x Roman number 6 and all this kind of stuff.
I think this can become obsessive. Even looking too much into conspiracy theories can make one accept some false teaching and move you further from Christ. It is usually fruitless.
There is only one grand serious conspiracy that concerns us and that is mentioned in Psalm 2: The conspiracy against Jesus Christ.
I rather care for a handful of souls than uncover some of these conspiracies.
Ephesians 6:12King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
The really of the spiritual battle we're in.
1 Thessalonians 5:21King James Version (KJV)
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
This is what I'm trying to do.
John 14:27King James Version (KJV)
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
This is what the Lord gives me.....
"Makes me wonder, when I see all the photos of the strange skies above CERN...if the The Sky isn't literally Falling apart ?"
Those are called thunderstorms over Lake Geneva, assuming they aren't photoshopped which is a gigantic assumption.
I have very similar photos on my phone from similar storms over our neighborhood a couple of years ago.
I agree with Savannah and narrowpath- sorry I got sucked into this discussion.
Bottom line is if a black hole is created at CERN and sucks the earth into it, it will happen so fast we will be dead before we ever knew what happened. And it it lets loose the spawn of hell, that was God's intention because only He can do such a thing.
TMK.....Bottom line is if a black hole is created at CERN and sucks the earth into it, it will happen so fast we will be dead before we ever knew what happened. And it it lets loose the spawn of hell, that was God's intention because only He can do such a thing.
It seems wise to me to let this discussion rest.
I respect each of you, even when we have different views about this.
be blessed brothers and sisters!
browny.
bearmaster....Todd I see from your posts that you operate in a rationalistic, natural view of things. I do not believe that you accept the reality of a spiritual realm both of the Holy Spirit and of Satan. You may say you believe in a spiritual realm with your mind. But the heart is another matter.Bro Blaine
Mr. Bear if you don't know personally, whats going on at CERN, would you not say you're just guessing? Surely you're a wise enough man not to depend on everything you hear, especially on the internet. As Christians are we really supposed to get caught up in things of man? This is just my personal opinion, and this is not directed at anyone, I have always felt that some Christians when they get bored with the word of God, they look for more of these conspiracy theories, to fuel them.
If Gods is real why would he ask us to believe in him, but then go out of his way to really convince us that he doesn't exist - such as evolution, the randomness of life, the fact that we are very flawed organisms, suffering, conspiracy theories the list goes on - what is the sense in that?
It is best to just focus on devotional to Jesus Christ than occupy our mind of these things...
It is best to just focus on devotional to Jesus Christ than occupy our mind of these things...
Saints,
As the quote above we should try and center our thinking on the Scriptures, on Jesus Christ and the things above not below. Of course much evil is working an afoot in this world and we need to be on our guard against deceptions. Yet in the end we just see as looking through a glass dimly and Heaven will be much more clearer and things above.
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