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Righteousness is an Internal Heart Matter

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In the early days of my walk with Christ I was stumped by a statement Jesus made in The Sermon on the Mount. He said unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Scribes and the Pharisees you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. I was caught unprepared by that statement.  As a young believer I was taught that the Pharisees were some of the most righteous people at the time of Christ. How could one have a righteousness that surpassed their righteousness to enter the kingdom of heaven. It was only as I grew in the Lord Jesus  that I gained a greater revelation and clarity of the truth taught in The Sermon on the Mount.

The Sermon on the Mount is far more penetrating and  demanding than the law of Moses given on Sinai. The law of Moses required only external obedience. The Sermon on the Mount requires internal obedience. And that is a righteousness that comes from the heart.

This is particularly Illustrated when Jesus tells the Pharisees that you were taught that you should not commit adultery. But I say that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you have already committed adultery. I remember when I first read that statement I was pierced in my heart 

The righteousness that Jesus requires of His people is found in Matthew 5 - 7.  The righteousness that surpasses that of the scribes and the Pharisees is a righteousness of the heart. It is a righteousness that could only be worked out through being a new creation in Christ and having the Holy Spirit transform and work through one's heart. It is a righteousness that is characterized in the fruit of the Spirit of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness faithfulness gentleness, and self-control.  Against these virtues wraught by the Spirit in the heart of the believer there is no law.

We must realize that our walk with Christ is characterized by an internal relationship of Him dwelling in us.  It is not characterized  by an external regulation to a code or religious practices.  

Recently I have seen some post in this forum that argue for external righteousness.  It is argued that such things as the making of the sign of the cross and the wearing of the head vail will work righteousne from the outside in. When the Holy Spirit is working our righteousness from the inside out.

The making of the sign of the cross is absolutely nothing. What Jesus requires is that we take up our cross to follow Him and that out of a surrendered heart to him alone.

The wearing of the head vail will not cure divorce. Only through the working of Christ in one's heart will divorce be cured. Again this is not arguing against the use of the head covering as I understand it to be biblical. But I would reason that if a sister truly has had a heart conversion in the wearing of the head vail. Then it will only enhance her holiness.  But again only because she has been transformed by a relationshio to the Lord Jesus Christ dwelling in her heart.

it is sad that it is sad that many of those in Amish and Mennonite circles have forgotten their Anabaptist roots. The early Anabaptist radicals saw that their relationship with Christ was characterized by the new birth. And that manifested through baptism of being dead to this world and alive to Christ.   Now it would seem that the Mennonites and Amish of today have evolved into a system of external religious works.  With no heart change of Christ.

But then you have the Church of Christ who practice baptism. They will even dunk you. But again this is an outward religious observance. Characterized by no internal heart change of Christ.

Brothers and sisters our approach to practical righteousness must be gospel centered focused on Christ. We must realize that our internal righteousness is worked out by the Holy Spirit through Jesus dwelling in our hearts. It is only through a heart transformed by the grace of God can one truly have that righteousness that surpasses that of the scribes and the Pharisees.

Jesus said apart from Me you can do nothing. Apart from Jesus living in us we cannot truly be righteous in Him. Only by Him dwelling in our hearts can we truly have the righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ.  Only through Jesus living in us can we truly obey Him from the heart.

My thoughts.

Posted by Blaine Scogin 


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Amen. Praise the Lord!

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Amen bro Blaine, that is a good word.......bro Frank

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AMEN!! Jesus tells us that evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness proceed from within, out of the heart [nature] of men [Matthew 7:21-23]

Yet Paul very emphatically asserts that " they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God" [ Gal. 5:21.
Therefore the heart of man, his " within" nature, must be changed before he can inherit the kingdom of God.

{Paragraph taken from the book 'A Right Conception of Sin'. Richard S. Taylor
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it is sad that it is sad that many of those in Amish and Mennonite circles have forgotten their Anabaptist roots. The early Anabaptist radicals saw that their relationship with Christ was characterized by the new birth. And that manifested through baptism of being dead to this world and alive to Christ. Now it would seem that the Mennonites and Amish of today have evolved into a system of external religious works. With no heart change of Christ.

Brother,

Though I agree some can have an external look but no inward change. But the truth is someone who has an inward change is fighting God who will not change the outward at all.

Christian life is practical and God calls us to practical holiness. An inward faith must have outward works. A new birth must have outward growth and maturity.

The anabaptists held to this fact that faith without works is dead. They believed faith will result in works and outward godliness.

The protestants said faith alone, catholics said works alone.

For sisters, head covering and godly modest dress was practiced by early believers, anabaptists and all like groups throughout history.

godly convictions on areas of obedience to the Lord, ie no drinking, no swearing oaths, no divorce or remarriage, no stealing, no lying or untruth. They are simply following the teachings of Jesus, especially in Matthew 5-7.

It is a strange thing to say that my faith is just inward and does to change my outward man in anyway. A Pilgrim and Sojourner, looks different and acts different then the world around him. He shuns the vain pomp and display of the world and seeks to live simply and with an eternal perspective. The protestants many of them still went to taverns to drink and acted and looked just like the world.

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Bro Bear,

This is what really stood out to me about what you said,...

Re: It is a righteousness that could only be worked out through being a new creation in Christ and having the Holy Spirit transform and work through one's heart. It is a righteousness that is characterized in the fruit of the Spirit of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness faithfulness gentleness, and self-control. Against these virtues wraught by the Spirit in the heart of the believer there is no law."

I believe that when God, ...through His Spirit works this in us,...we do not need a 'law',..because His will, is working His Ways in us....


The law, works to bring us to Him,....how He 'Sees', ..how He judges in matters,.... to show us ,...to make sin, exceedingly sinful,..like The Word says.He wants a surrender to His Spirit / His Grace that is drawing us to Him.

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"Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
5 ¶ And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 ¶ Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

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Elibeth writrs

ӢӢӢ believe that when God, ...through His Spirit works this in us,...we do not need a 'law',..because His will, is working His Ways in us....ӢӢӢ

Well said my sister. Very profound insight that resonates in my spirit. For our brother Paul writes in his letter to the Philippians,

ӢӢӢ So then, my beloved, just as you have obeyed not as in my presence only, but not much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.ӢӢӢ Philippians 2:13-14

Just as God works his Spirit in our lives to will and work for His good pleasure. So we work out His salvation in His power to do His will and to work for His good pleasure. In other words it is from the inside out.

Blaine

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Greg writes........

"It is a strange thing to say that my faith is just inward and does to change my outward man in anyway."

So strange that no one I have ever known has said such a thing. It is not that difficult a subject that is being explained on this thread. True external change is originated by internal renewal. Unless change flows from the internal relationship with Jesus it will have a relatively short half life. It is beyond the religious mind to grasp such a truth.

We could share all day long what an apple tastes like. People could become experts and get degrees in the apple and have their heads filled with knowledge about the apple, create websites about it and highlight other apple experts, but unless one has actually consumed an apple they can never know what it actually tastes like..........bro Frank

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Frank writes...

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True external change is originated by internal renewal. Unless change flows from the internal relationship with Jesus it will have a relatively short half life. It is beyond the religious mind to grasp such a truth.

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Well said my brother. Amen!!!

Blaine

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Brother Blaine
I am in agreement with most of this post. Years ago we used to wear bracelets WWJD? What would JESUS do??

Brothers and sisters our approach to practical righteousness must be gospel centered focused on Christ. We must realize that our internal righteousness is worked out by the Holy Spirit through Jesus dwelling in our hearts. It is only through a heart transformed by the grace of God can one truly have that righteousness that surpasses that of the scribes and the Pharisees.

As I minister and pray I see Christians looking all on the outside. I do believe a women hair is her covering. I do believe God Hates divorce but hates violence more. Malachi.
I also believe it take two to make and break a covenant.
I am not supporting feminism here nor any Jezebel ahab spirit. If a man truly loves His wife as Christ loves the Church His wife will submit to Him as unto the LORD.
Eph 5, Men are to be the head of the home then the wife then children this is what I have learned and believe.
I see that people here and in churches discuss doctrine and outside issues. the main thing is JESUS.. Jesus rebuked the men who wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery.. When he was writing the names in the sand... whose name was it.?. I think the mens?? There are always two people in a covenant both at fault..Both need repentant hearts..
What is important I believe is JESUS in our hearts. Taking up our cross daily. Keeping our hearts focused on HIM. repenting for when we offend HIM when we are not a good witness.. There are many prisoners watching us.. the church today.> We represent JESUS wherever we go..
In the parable of the good Samaritan JESUS rebuked the pharisee for being to busy to pour in the oil.. We I believe are to be good Samaritans here in the world. We if we have internal righteousness will be about HIS business.
we Will hate the sin we have and in others but love others . Love covers a multitude of sin.. May we all have our hearts circumcised daily to see our part in all things. JESUS.
Just some of my thoughts insights from a God Seeker..
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Sister Frannie wrote...

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What is important I believe is JESUS in our hearts
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So true my sister. Our brother Paul prays for the Ephesians and consequently for us also...

ӢӢӢ For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name, that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in the inner man, so that Christ May dwell in your hearts through faith and that you being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth the length and the height and the depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge that you may be filled up in all the fullness of God..ӢӢӢ Ephesians 3:14-19

Paul was praying that the Ephesian believers would come to know that Jesus dwells in their hearts. Also that they would be able to comprehend the all-embracing love of Christ that God has for his children.

And by implication Paul would want us to know this too.

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Brother Blaine.
Thank you for the reply..
As I pray and seek His face for revival and for the church.
We all represent the church. In this hour as i minister to others in the church and out. I see the world has gotten into the church and I believe that is why the divorce rate is so high.. In the priveledge I have to minister this is my main scripture I strive to minister with.
I see that I need need to always remember JESUS's words to the pharisees's and his disciples.
I personally always remember MERCY.. TO REMEMBER WHERE I CAME FROM AND THAT I AM NOT WHERE I USED TO BE AND NOT WHERE I SHOULD BE BUT KNOW THAT I AM LOVED AND SAVED BECAUSE OF HIS MERCY.. AND SHOULD SHOW MERCY TO ALL..

Matt 23:11-28 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Just some more thoughts
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Brothers and sisters our approach to practical righteousness must be gospel centered focused on Christ. We must realize that our internal righteousness is worked out by the Holy Spirit through Jesus dwelling in our hearts. It is only through a heart transformed by the grace of God can one truly have that righteousness that surpasses that of the scribes and the Pharisees.

Jesus said apart from Me you can do nothing. Apart from Jesus living in us we cannot truly be righteous in Him. Only by Him dwelling in our hearts can we truly have the righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ. Only through Jesus living in us can we truly obey Him from the heart.

My thoughts.

Posted by Blaine Scogin
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Greetings Blaine

I found myself agreeing with this from your post. JESUS is a person, HE wants relationship with us daily. Only by remaining in HIM can we hope to submit and live daily on to HIM.

God Bless and thanks for sharing
MJ

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"Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.  I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them." (Ezekiel 36 (25-27)

"But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." (Jeremiah 31:33).

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8,9).

 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God””this is your true and proper worship.  Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is””his good, pleasing and perfect will. (Romans 12:1,2).

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Mary Jane writes...

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JESUS is a person, HE wants relationship with us daily. Only by remaining in HIM can we hope to submit and live daily on to HIM.
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Amen dear sister. One if my ministry partbers will often say that truth is found in a person and His name is Jesus.

Blaine

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Brother Mike writes...

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Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them." (Ezekiel 36 (25-27)

"But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." (Jeremiah 31:33).
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Amen my brother. Only buy a new creation in our hearts worked out by the Holy Spirit can we truly walk in His will and His ways.

In effect we have received a new heart transplant through the Lord Jesus Christ.

Blaine

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I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing....John 15:5

But the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindbess, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, against such things there is no law. 5:22-23

having been filled with the fruit of righteousness which comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God...Pholippians 1:11


As I read and meditate through John 15 about the vine and the branches I see an organic life that takes place.  This is portrayed in the organic Life of Christ through His Spirit in the life of the believer. Jesus says that He is the vine and we are the branches. As a branch clings to the vine and receives life to bear fruit. So we cling to Christ and receive His life to bear the fruit of the Spirit.

This is an organic union with Christ. And organic life-giving union with Jesus Himself.  It is Jesus living in us the believer by His Spirit.  And it is us living in Jesus Himself. Again by His Spirit. We in Jesus and Him in us.

Also this union is organic.  I remember from my basic biology that organic means life. We are an organism in Jesus. We are His life being lived out in us.  We are not an organization. We are in organism in Jesus.

His life lived out in us will certainly manifest the fruit of the Spirit.  The nine fruit are characterized by love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, fathfulness gentleness, self-control.  Against these internal virtues of the Spirit there is no law.  There is no written code.

Thus the believer is not governed by an external code of law or religious observance.  But rather the believer in Jesus is governed by the indwewilling Spirit of Christ who lives in His heart.  It is through the Holy Spirit by which we live out the righteousness of Christ. A heart righteousness that comes through Jesus Himself.  Primarily manifested through the fruit of the Spirit.

Simply my thoughts.

Blaine

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A divine exchange took place at the cross. Jesus was made sin with our sinfulness so that we may be made righteous with His righteousness. Our righteousness is always a "alien righteousness" coming always from outside ourselves. The new man was created according to God, in righteousness and true holiness (Ephesians 4:24). Not just saved but justified - just as if you had never sinned. Acquitted, made just, "made righteous."

We need to be on guard then against anything that makes us feel guilty.This is a denial of the work of the cross - very different than the specific conviction of the Holy Spirit. Guilt never ends; it goes on and on. Nothing you can do is sufficient. If Satan persists in his attempts to make you feel guilty, you can take your stand on God's promise in Isaiah 54:17:

"No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue which rises against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage (or inheritance) of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is from me."

Notice that God does not say He will condemn every tongue that rises against you; He says YOU will do that. On the basis of what Jesus has done for you on the cross, YOU must reject all Satan's accusations against you and refuse to come under guilt and condemnation. It is not your righteousness, after all, that is being challenged, but God's righteousness transferred to you. On that basis you can reject every accusation against you. You are not guilty. It does not matter from what angle the devil approaches you. All he can see is the righteousness of Christ covering you. This is summed up in Romans 8:1:

"There is therefore NOW no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus."

(Taken from "Bought with Blood: The Exchange Made at the Cross" - CH 5: "Righteousness In Place Of Sin")

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David write...

A divine exchange took place at the cross. Jesus was made sin with our sinfulness so that we may be made righteous with His righteousness. Our righteousness is always a "alien righteousness" coming always from outside ourselves. The new man was created according to God, in righteousness and true holiness (Ephesians 4:24). Not just saved but justified - just as if you had never sinned. Acquitted, made just, "made righteous."

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But was it just a Judicial, positional righteousness. Or did something happen on the inside of our hearts?

Actually that begs another question. Can one be justified or declared not guilty before God and not show a change in their behavior?

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The new man within you was created in righteousness and true holiness (Ephesians 4:24). Something big time happened on the inside also but it will always be HIS holiness and righteousness.

The word for righteousness and the word for justified are side by side in the concordance. One immediately follows the other as they are very closely related.

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Blaine writes......

"Actually that begs another question. Can one be justified or declared not guilty before God and not show a change in their behavior?"

Good question that deserves an answer........bro Frank

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Matthew 5:20

For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

John 3:5

Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.


It seems that Jesus is saying that to have the righteousness that surpasses that of the scribes and the Pharisees. One must be born again in their hearts. Truly righteousness is an internal heart
matter.

Just a passing thought.

Bro Blaine

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If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine, and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.ӢӢӢ John 8:31-32

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! Do you not know that when you present yourself to someone as slaves to obedience, you were slaves to the one whom you will pay, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.ӢӢӢ Romans 8:25-18

Pondered the above truths in my time with the Lord this morning. Again it seems that there is a heart change that takes place that results in us wanting to be obedient to Christ. Again this Heart Change must be wrought by the Holy Spirit. This is not an external obedience to a code. But it is an internal obedience to the working of Christ in our hearts.

Our brother, the Apostle Paul reminds us in 2nd Corinthians,

ӢӢӢ Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away, behold new things have come.ӢӢӢ 2nd Corinthians 5:17

Does it expire a new heart by which we obey Christ. A heart of internal obedience. I was thinking on the truth of Romans 7,

ӢӢӢ But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldest of the letter.ӢӢӢ Romans 7:6

Jesus has set us free from an external code be at the law or anything else. By Him working in our hearts and joining us to Him we serve in a newness of the Spirit. Thus righteousness becomes an internal geart matter.

Simply my thoughts as revealed by the Holy Spirit.

Bro Blaine

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Blaine writes......

"Actually that begs another question. Can one be justified or declared not guilty before God and not show a change in their behavior?"

Good question that deserves an answer........bro Frank

I have heard this taught and I totally reject it. We are not justified in order that we might be right with God. We are not justified as a step in becoming right with God. Our death and rebirth accomplished in us the work of justification. I am now right with God because I entered into the baptism of death and rebirth. I died to the old man and to sin. I am now dead to sin. And I was resurrected to new life in Christ. This causes me to be right or just in the eyes of God.

Now if I have died and been reborn, it well necessarily result in a change in my outward behavior. I cannot become a different man in the spirit without that new identity manifesting itself in my outward behavior. A good tree will bring forth good fruit in the same way that a bad tree brought forth bad fruit.

I think we would fall into the other ditch if we were to try to say that a regenerated man, justified man, will always exhibit perfect behavior. I still live in unregenerate flesh, and I still miss the mark occasionally. But this is far different from saying that I am justified but no fruit to that account ever being manifest in my life.

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"Actually that begs another question. Can one be justified or declared not guilty before God and not show a change in their behavior?"

Good question that deserves an answer........bro Frank

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I listened to a teaching by Paul Washer along time ago he said if a man gets run over by a huge truck and then gets up and walks away would we expect him to show no outward signs of it having happened? Simple answer no, by the same token if a man has a new birth experience with the LIVING GOD of heaven and earth would he walk away with no outwards signs of it having happened, again the answer is NO!

I think we have outwards sign, changes in behavior and attitude of heart because of that encounter with CHRIST. Because of who HE is and HIS now living in us we are different, changed. Not perfect, not sinless but growing to be more like HIM as we seek to daily live unto HIM.

GOD keeps bringing me back to this one simple truth. JESUS is ALIVE right now! HE is a person and HE wants to have a daily, moment by moment relationship with me, with us. How could I ever have a relationship with HIM and not be changed by it? I don't believe I could :)


God bless
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(ps The above is not an exact quote from Paul Washer but is the gist of what he shared in that teaching.:)

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MaryJane writes...

"GOD keeps bringing me back to this one simple truth. JESUS is ALIVE right now! HE is a person and HE wants to have a daily, moment by moment relationship with me, with us. How could I ever have a relationship with HIM and not be changed by it? I don't believe I could :)"

Indeed my sister. The righteousness that comes out of our hearts is His indwelling Pesence on us. It is His Spirit that changes us, that transforms us, from one degree of glory into another.

Bro Blaine

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”¢”¢”¢Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.  For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death.  But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.”¢”¢”¢ Romans 7:4-6


Brethren as I reflect upon the above passage written by the Apostle Paul. I'm reminded what a dear brother once said to me. Our walk with Christ is not "regulational" but "relational".  In other words are conduct in Christ, our walk of practical holiness,  our behavior in Jesus, it's not governed by an external code of written regulation. Rather our walk of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is governed by the Holy Spirit writing his law of love in our hearts.   

Thus our walk of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is not governed by external regulation. For regulations enslave us.  But our walk in the Lord Jesus Christ is governed by the Holy Spirit who writes His law of love in our hearts.  Hearin is the freedom and liberty to be holy as unto the Lord Jesus Christ.  For where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. Not the llberty to sin.  But the liberty to serve out of a heart of love the Lord Jesus Christ.

For our walk a faith on Jesus is not regulational to an external code. But our walk of faith in Jesus is relational coming out of a heart of love that desires to serve Him.  

My thoughts.

Bro Blaine 

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Frank wrote on another thread...

"The freedom to do what is right, towers above the prison and the chains of commandments.One is initiated by love, the other is enforced by the whip.Holiness comes from freedom and freedom comes from love . And this love inspires and draws us and compels us to honor and respect and obey our Father in heaven because His love is the very air that we breathe and the air before the throne is rarified air and if we cannot breathe this air then we die......bro Frank"

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I thought the words of our dear brother were so appropriate to include on this thread. That is that righteousness is an internal heart matter. Righteousness is an internal heart matter that comes out of a heart of love which the Holy Spirit has shed abroad in our hearts. Thus our walk with the Lord Jesus Christ is always "relational" and "not regulational".

Bro Blaine

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Re: you said,
"Righteousness is an internal heart matter that comes out of a heart of love which the Holy Spirit has shed abroad in our hearts. Thus our walk with the Lord Jesus Christ is always "relational" and "not regulational".

Dear bro.,
Are you saying,..

Righteousness is an internal matter,...that it comes out of His love for us,...and then out of our love for Him,..God,..(who is 'The Living Word'),
... and are you saying, that 'IT WORKS' by the love of God IN us, and our love for Him ?....(relationship)

You said,
"Thus our walk with The Lord is always "relational" and not "regulational"

I agree,..it is relational,...our relationship with Him, ..how He relates to us...
and how we relate to Him....an interaction,..of The Living God,....(The Living Word)

As for "regulational",...is that not what The Holy Spirit,...The Word that was born into us, has come into us to 'do' ? To regulate our life, to follow Him in the regeneration ?

It is a The Living God,...The Living Word,...our new Name, that He gave,..placed within us.,...and that Living Word / God has come to change us into His image.

NO,NO, NOT the law, to look at, and try to 'do'
,...No,...But 'it IS' THE SPIRIT OF GOD, that is born within,.. to lead us.Doesn't a son / child take on the fathers character likeness?


(Relationship and regulational)


My heart in this sooo important thought .
In truly heart of love for my brother s / sisters in Him,🛐

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elizabeth


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Elibeth writes

"My heart in this sooo important thought .
In truly heart of love for my brother s / sisters in Him,🛐"

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My sister being punny you have gotten to the heart of the matter. Our obedience to Christ comes out of a heart that has been changed and transformed by His love. I hope to develop this later.

Bro Blaine

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" Our walk with Christ is ӢӢrelationalӢӢ not ӢӢregulationalӢӢ."

"Anything other than a transformed life is nothing but religion."

Two profound comments from two Spirit-filled brothers that I respect very much. Our walk of faith in Jesus is a heart matter. Only because Jesus lives in our hearts.

My thoughts.

Blaine

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