Blow the trumpet in Zion, here also, Trump declares Jerusalem the capital

And subsequently moving the embassay there.

Oh... are we close? Jesus is coming for his own and soon!

Soon will be Jacobs trouble, not the church's trouble, therefore the rapture.

The rapture will cripple america. But oh the surrounding countries of Israel will take their initiative. No America is going to defend Israel only the KING!

I love the hand of God. I love the prophecy of his Word.

Im so anticipating seeing His will done in His time! And we are living NOW!

Come Lord Jesus! Get all that is your own and rule and reign forever and ever!

Netanyahu Thanks Trump for Recognizing Jerusalem: "The Jewish People Will Be 'Forever Grateful”

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/06/netanyahu-thanks-trump-recognizing-jerusalem-israel-will-be-forever-grateful

This is all in the bible - Jerusalem belongs to Israel, Christ is paving his return.--Gerardo Antonio

Micah 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.

Hi Very interesting considering its the 70th year.A Pastor friend has been saying to me for a few years that something will happen on the 70th year and it did,urs staff

Exodus 19:6

And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

1 Peter 2:9

But you are a chosen race who serve as Priests for The Kingdom, a holy nation, a redeemed assembly; you should proclaim the praises of him who called you from darkness into his excellent light.

Revelation 1:6

To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom of priests to serve his God and Father””to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

Galatians 4:22-31

For it is written: "Abraham had two sons, one from a Maidservant and one from a Freewoman." But he who was from the Maidservant was born of the flesh, but he who was from the Freewoman was by The Promise. But these are illustrations of the two Covenants, the one that is from Mount Sinai begets to bondage, which is Hagar. For Hagar is Mount Sinai that is in Arabia, and agrees with this Jerusalem and is serving in bondage and its children. But that Jerusalem above is free, which is our mother.

For it is written: "Rejoice, barren one, she who does not bear, triumph and shout, she who does not give birth, because the children of the desolate have increased more than the children of a wife."

But we, my brethren, are children of The Promise like Isaac. And as then, he who was born by the flesh did persecute him who was of the Spirit, so it is now also.

But what do the Scriptures say? Cast out the Maidservant and her son because the son of the Maidservant will not inherit with the son of the Freewoman.

We therefore, my brethren, are not children of the Maidservant, but children of the Freewoman.

John 1:11-13

He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God”” children born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but born of God.

NEXT year is the 70th year. May 1948, only 5 months away. 2018 is gonna be exciting!

Yes Mr Bill, all paving the way.

Also of note is 2018 Russian elections. Maybe Putin doesnt make it? Already there is alliance Russia Turkey and Iran.

yepp! Looks like biblical prophesy been fulfilled right in front of our eyes. We need to get ready.

I would recommend Tim Conway's : "Eschatology: A Study of the End Times"

https://illbehonest.com/series/eschatology-a-study-of-the-end-times

Sometime things that sound great my have a different meaning. Such is the operation of the tree of knowledge. Jerusalem has always been the capital, nothing to announce here. What we are hearing is the pronouncement of the Greater Israel Project. It's moving along where Jerusalem will be the International capitol of the world. Their plans are for all to come hear the wisdom of their prophet.

The wars in the mid east are just the cleaning off the land for this project. Land is being divided. The Vatican has had control of Jerusalem for some time, fences are up and checkpoints are being built on the highways.

The greater Israel project calls for the Palestinians to be thrown under the bus; even America after it's been used. It seems everyone is being used. Such is the way of deception.
I hear deception on my TV all the time. Nothing seems real anymore.

It truly is a time to be looking at our temple as Haggai said. The old temple being torn down with no stone left on another is a symbol of our old life and how it should be dismantled and a new foundation laid. Our past life was a monument to failure. We should be looking at finishing the new glorious temple.

The wailing wall and the other remnants remind us that Rome is still around in Jerusalem. Their stones haven't been thrown down. The image that Nebuchadnezzar saw still reigns.

Jacob's trouble is all believers trouble. We are enemy number one. Look around and see how believers are being killed all over the world. Esau has the upper hand now and Jacob is in trouble. Our only hope is Jesus.

The rapture sounds nice but it didn't happen for our brothers in Syria, Egypt, Iraq and other places. Maybe the American church is special.

Hi Pnutty
Yeah but hasnt that Jewish Year already Started so we're into the 70th year already?urs staff

NEXT year is the 70th year. May 1948, only 5 months away. 2018 is gonna be exciting

"But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create; for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people; and there shall be heard in her no more the voice of weeping and the voice of crying.”
”­”­Isaiah”¬ ”­65:18-19”¬ ”­ASV”¬”¬

Yes He came to His own and His own did not receive Him. Yet God is not through with them yet because of His covenant mercies and sure promises He made to their fathers.

No one is suggesting or implying that Jews or Israel will be allowed into the kingdom of God just because they are Jews or Israel. They will have to come the way of the cross as all believers have. Then the remnant of Israel will be joined to the one nation under God made up of believers who trust Jesus only for their salvation.

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?

kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

"Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.

He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:

"Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.”

Psalm 2.

I talked to a friend of mine a couple of hours ago who is presently visiting Israel and is in Jerusalem and was there when the announcement was made. He said American flags are everywhere alongside Israeli flags and Israeli citizens have been coming up to him and his wife on the street and thanking them and America. Oh that the Lord would remove the blinders on Israel so they would know what they are really dealing with!

Meanwhile, he said that the Muslims will go their routine meetings and prayers on Friday and this is when the immans will likely give their response to Trump's announcement and give out to the crowds attending possible plans for resistance. I don't know what will happen but days of rage and protest may follow soon.

Why all the reaction from every nation and in particular the Muslim nations?

The answer should be blindingly obvious to anyone who is spiritually awake. It is NOT because they care about Jerusalem itself, NOR is it they really care about the Palestinian people (at no time has any of the Muslim Arab neighbours given practical help to them, and their leaders let them live in the gutter while they take millions of donated dollars into their own pockets).
No the real reason they are 'up in arms' is because they hate the Jews. It is pure anti-Semitism, that;s the only obvious reason for the reaction.

Israel is a population of eight million in a world of seven billion. Yet since its foundation, the United Nations Human Rights Council has adopted 135 country-specific resolutions; 68 of which against Israel. One has to ask, why? Answer as above.

On a practical note, Israel has been in charge of Jerusalem for the last 50 years and all that time Christians, Muslims and Jews have had free access to their places of importance. None has been destroyed or abused. Can you imagine if Muslims were in control of Jerusalem what it would be like? No Jews or Christians would be allowed to have their places of importance remaining! Take note of what we see in countries such as Saudi Arabia. No churches permitted!

Watch this great film for better understanding these things.
https://vimeo.com/184360011

staff person,

that may be so BUT if you think of May 1948 as a birthday, then May 2018 is when they TURN 70. That is how I am looking at it. 70 years after the rebirth not hebrew or gregorian calendar years.

They are still 69 years old so to speak.

//No one is suggesting or implying that Jews or Israel will be allowed into the kingdom of God just because they are Jews or Israel. They will have to come the way of the cross as all believers have. Then the remnant of Israel will be joined to the one nation under God made up of believers who trust Jesus only for their salvation.//

Isn’t this just a description of the Church?

Yes it's a description of the church. Exactly. Which is what has been said all along - Israel will not be able to or come into their promised inheritance until they believe and become part of the church by faith. They are required to come in by the cross as every believer has. Then the indwelling Christ and the power of His righteousness will give them the moral ability to keep God's laws and demands. They won't kick against doing so but their born again inward man will delight in and seek ways go obey God which is obedience which was a major requirement to keep the land. Being in Christ will give them the inward ability to keep the land because of their obedience.

The notion that possessing an actual "land" is a Gentile and western notion that presently goes along with the idea that OT prophecies are in need of reinterpretation after the advent of Christ. It comes from the same school of theology that for centuries taught that under no circumstances would there ever ever be a return of Jewish people to Palestine.

God is not racist...

Romans 2

There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Greek. For God does not show favoritism.

Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the Law and boast in God; if you know His will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the Law; if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those in darkness, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and truth”” you, then, who teach others, do you do not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? You who forbid adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the Law, do you dishonor God by breaking the Law? As it is written: "God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”

Circumcision has value if you observe the Law, but if you break the Law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? The one who is physically uncircumcised yet keeps the Law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.

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You're the one who is missing it!

John 1

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But those that received him, to them he gave authority to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his Name, Those who had not been born of blood, nor of the desire of the flesh, nor of the desire of a man, but of God.

Those and those only, are God's chosen people, who are born of God. A blood born Jew as it says here, as well as in Romans 2,has nought to do with being the sons of God. Jesus Himself stated that He was able to make children of Abraham from stones.

It's the blood of Jesus alone that makes one a son of God, not the blood of your parents. Your race before God is equal to the color of your eyes or hair.

Our inheritance of all of His promises is due to the death of His Son and our being in covenant with Him.

Nothing can be added or taken away from that.

Hi Pnutty person lol
yeah but if you look at the way the Jews look at Jubilee year it would be a full year rather than just the date,Jews on facebook are already celbrating 70 yrs as far as I can see,urs staff(called after the avatar a stick which we had at the start)not a member of staff

/"No one is suggesting Jews or Israel will be allowed into the kingdom of God because they are Jews or Israel. They will have to come the way of the cross as all believers have."

"Israel will not be able to or come into their promised inheritance until they place their faith in Christ and become part of the church. They are required to come the way of the cross as every believer has."/

What is racist or partial on God's part if He requires Jew and Gentile to come the way of the cross before they are to be counted as sons of God?

If one camp did not see some perceived advantage for being an ethnic Jew, there would not be a debate about whether the Church is the true Israel.

In other words, there is an understanding by one camp that God is going to specifically preserve a people based on their race, ie that He is going to favor one people group over another based on race.

At least that is my understanding of the issue although admittedly it may be flawed. But based on the scriptures savannah posted I don’t think so.

Where is the phrase "new Israel" found in the Bible, especially the New Testament? If you believe in the "new Israel" and make reference to it then where can this term be found in the Bible?

Savannah' scriptures imply that one camp believes that being a ethnic Jew makes one a son of God. Nothing can be further from the truth. It's a common mischaracterization based on a I'll informed perception of what the other camp believes. It's been my experience many times that no matter how many times you explain the issue that the wrongful caricature of the other side is still clung to. If many would take time to really study the position of the other camp they may still disagree about the future role of the Jew and their nation but they would understand at least that the belief is that that people and that nation is going to have to come the way of the cross and be born again to enter the kingdom of God. No one gets in because of ethnicity minus the new birth.

If Christ returns to Jerusalem at His second advent will He be showing partiality to one city and nation? Where does it say what God may choose to do for one nation He is obligated to do for all nations? Since Paul was saved in such a dramatic way does God therefore owe everyone He saves such a experience? ?Was God showing partiality to Paul? Was God showing partiality to one man by choosing Abraham instead of someone else? Was God is no respecter of persons when it comes to salvation. Jew and Gentile must be born again by faith in the atoning blood of Christ. After that, if God chooses to use one particular nation for a specific purpose it doesn't mean He is unrighteous or racist! Scriptures are abundantly clear that the blessings to come to this nation in Christ will flow out and bless all the nations. One nation fully in Christ and set apart will bless all peoples and nations.

Hi Docs and Others,
I think these points you are making are very important
Everybody has to be born again no exceptions
This has nothing to do with race it has to do with purpose
Is Jesus showing rascism if he returns to Jerusalem rather than London(paraphrase) Answer No.

May I add that the very fact that Israel has come back into existance again in 1948 blows all arguements out of the water that God does not have a reason for Israel to exist.
Either that or its just coincidence and I dont think even the most ardent opposition believe that.
urs staff

We find very little record of anyone holding to a Judaic centric eschatology for almost the first 1500 years of Church History.

RE : /// Where is the phrase "new Israel" found in the Bible, especially the New Testament?///

Gal 6:16

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary:

"Israel of God””not the Israel after the flesh, among whom those teachers wish to enrol you; but the spiritual seed of Abraham by faith (Ga 3:9, 29; Ro 2:28, 29; Php 3:3).

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

And upon the Israel of God.””The benediction is addressed, not to two distinct sets of persons ("those who walk by this rule” and "the Israel of God”), but to the same set of persons described in different ways. "And” is therefore equivalent to "namely:” Yea, upon the Israel of God. By the "Israel of God” is here meant the "spiritual Israel;” not converts from Judaism alone, but all who prove their real affinity to Abraham by a faith like Abraham’s. (Comp. Galatians 3:7-9; Galatians 3:14; Galatians 3:29; Romans 4:11-12; Romans 9:6-8.)

Matthew Poole's Commentary

Upon the Israel of God; upon the true Israelites, whom he calleth the Israel of God; hereby intimating and confirming the truth of what he had said, Romans 2:28,29, and what our Saviour had said of Nathanael, John 1:47, calling him an Israelite indeed, because in him was no guile; and establishing a distinction between such as were so really, and those who were only Israelites in name, because descended from Jacob, to whom God gave the name of Israel. Hereby also checking the vanity of the Jews, who gloried in the name of Israelites, and thought there could no water come out of the fountains of Israel which God would cast away. The apostle doth not promise, or prophesy, mercy and peace to all Israelites, but only to the Israel of God; that is, to believers, that received and embraced Jesus Christ offered in the gospel.

Tim Conway : https://illbehonest.com/who-is-true-israel-part-3-tim-conway

"for ALMOST the first 1500 years of church history."

I assume that leaves out Jesus and the early church. The events of 70 AD were rubbed in the face of the Jews as a sure sign that God was through with them and their status had become null and void. There is no scripture to support this. The long exile was a discipline and chastisement and not an irrevocable casting off.

I don't see the phrase "new Israel" in Galatians 6:16. There is Israel as a whole comprised of non believers and believers. Believers, the true sons of Abraham circumcised in heart by the Spirit, are the true Israel within Israel. It nowhere speaks of a new Israel. It speaks of a Israel after the Spirit which was God's intention all along. Again, what is "new" about that? Preachers and teachers who use the phrase "new Israel" it seems should be under some obligation to inform their listeners they are using a term not found anywhere in the Bible.

In Christ the Gentiles become fellowheirs, and of the same body (Ephe 3:6). Gentiles in Christ are brought into and become part of true Israel. What's "new" about that. It was God's intention and part of His eternal purpose all along (Ephe 3:11). As commonly taught, the "new Israel" teaching is largely founded on the premise that God irrevocably divorced if you will the Jews and turned to another people thus cancelling any outstanding promises to Israel that have not been fulfilled.

Yet the issue I am speaking of is if one camp teaches that ethnic Jews will one day be brought in just because they are Jews without being born again. Even if you disagree with the future role of Jews and Israel etc. at least understand that no one is teaching that unsaved Jews will one day be part of the kingdom of God solely on the basis of their ethnicity. It's plain and simply NOT TRUE.

RE : /// I assume that leaves out Jesus and the early church.///

You know what I was implying.

RE : /// I don't see the phrase "new Israel"..///

I did not see anyone in this discussion using the phrase "new Israel" except for you.

If you agree that the "Israel of God" in Galatians 6:16 is speaking of "the spiritual seed of Abraham" Than we are in agreement about there being two Israel's

edit : clarity

David- I did not mean to imply or suggest that a Jewish person can be saved apart from surrendering to Christ. And of course God is not racist.

But I think there some who believe that "all Israel will be saved” because of their ethnicity. In other words God will see to it they are saved. I think this may be where the difficulty lies.

I certainly agree that God can do what He wants.

I asked, "Where is the phrase "new Israel" found in the Bible, especially the New Testament?" You replied Galatians 6:16.

The true Israel within Israel, the believing Israel of the Spirit, I would contend would be eligible and qualified to receive the
promises made to their forefathers. What I believe the one particular and specific nation will receive is because they have become part of believing Israel which translated means they will have become part of the church and body of Christ and not just because they are ethnic Jews. The coming of the Spirit at Pentecost does not mean all has been realized and therefore the promises are therefore in need ofreinterpretation.