Prophetic Word: Trump Will Remain the President & An Apology.

Hi All

For balance to the recent posts
Here is a Pastor I Follow on Youtube that has put this up in the last few hours.
She had not previously Prophesied that Trump would be President but she has today .So opposite to those Prophetic voices that have apologized.Have a listen and decide for yourselves .
urs staff

Prophetic Word: Trump Will Remain the President & An Apology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkvhNvQjj70

Thanks for posting this. I like the view that, the avenues we were looking to for a solution may not be the way the Lord decides to get it done. We were talking and praying of course over many things, but remembering the wall of fire God placed between His people and the Egyptian army. Our God seems to like last minute showdowns. Praying and hoping for the 4th man to show! Amen

Rusty

Hi Rufnrust,
I think you are right and all sides of the "will he or wont he" debate will recognise that scripturally God is the God of last minute showdowns.
I cant remember a "Red Sea Moment" similar to this on an international stage where God has to make the way or else the Eygptian Armies will prevail on God's people.
Brexit was an almighty work of God to seperate Great Britian from the EU which is a satanic entity to its core.
2016 US election was a mighty miracle mocked as impossible for a year before that.
This is on a whole different level again because a hoped for Judgement is involved and its International in scope and scale .When history is recalled in heaven to show how great and wonderful the Lord is then this will be up there with the Red Sea,praying for a miracle,urs staff

My prayer has been that if fraud has been committed the God of Truth would not allow it to succeed.

One might argue that God may want to use the fraud to hasten judgment on America.

But I even prayed that if God wants to judge America to do it His own way, but not by allowing fraud of evil people to succeed.

If there has been no meaningful fraud, then moot point.

I just thought better of my comments and deleted them.

Thank you.

A great question is this...

Is she obeying the Word of God by being a pastor? What does the Word say about this?

I am finishing a missionary book and a lady is in the Philippines translating. At one point one of the men in the village comes upon the scripture about men being the teacher and gets quiet. Eventually he takes his position and learns the Word and becomes the teacher to his people while she continues the translation. I wondered how this would go when I read it and it turned out great. It was odd since it was more pragmatic for the missionary to do the preaching but the Word but the missionary and this elder obeyed the Word and God gave His blessing.

THe book is called 'And the Word came in Power' published by Wyclife bible translators. if you are interested. I bought it at their mussum in Orlando.

by Joanne Shetler (Author), Patricia Purvis (Contributor)

Quote: by Joanne Shetler (Author), Patricia Purvis (Contributor)

So there is a lesson you want us to learn; that men are meant to be the teacher.

And you want us learn this through a book from two women.

On the floor laughing...

Hi all,
I firmly believe their was fraud.As well as all the hours testimony to the state Legislatures,the clear video of fraud in GA and the dominion machine audit in Wisconsin,we also have the unconstitutional voting.
Wisconsin-2000000 illegal absentee ballots
Philidelpia-Judiciary change rules which is unconstitutional
GA-Same
If anyone doubts their was fraud please spend some time looking at the evidence given to the legislatures of the swing states as I did.
We have Rudy Giuliani who brought down the mob crime families in New York on the record about what he thinks.
Also 5 full states stopped counting at around the same time in early morning and all of a sudden hundreds of thousands of ballots suddenly appeared.This never happened before,
If their was no fraud why were poll observers harrassed ,kicked out and kept away from seeing the ballots?Why did election officials put up cardboard to stop people seeing?and most importantly why did governors and judges stop real audits go ahead but put up every kind of barrier to stop this happen?If their was nothing to hide their would have been no problem audit and it would have made Trump look foolish.Why would Joe Biden not want to double check everything unless their was fraud and they were hiding it,He would have started his term by showing he won fair and square to everyone and partially unite the country.

Off all the cases that were brought to court the judiciary refused to hear evidence except for two I think and those two were victories for Trump.Judge McCollough from Wisconsin said that on the merits of the case in front of her if it goes to the Supreme court it will be successful.

Then ask yourself this why are you believing a false prophet like CNN ,Msnbc ,Fox about the election when they clearly lied about Opinion Polls in 2016 and 2020,some of them pushed collusion and impeachment which were total lies as well as inciting violence on your streets with BLM which is just a militia for the democratic party.

If you dont understand that BLM are communist then look at this video of Patrisse Colors the Co founder of BLM in response to a complaint from a communist terrorist in jail.

"We are trained organisers,we are trained marxists,we are super versed on ideological theories"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEUbSzOTZ8

Then ask yourself why so little Spiritual discernment?
You have a group of people that support planned parenthood,Anti Semitism,BLM violence and murder,gender politics,the gay agenda ,open borders which means no national governments (a thing God hates),not to mention all the antics in the last 4 years and you are considering what they are saying is actually true?
By their fruits.......
urs staff

P.s do please have a look at that 2minute video clip and as well as whats being said listen to the sickening tone of the interviewer .

Hi Greg,
I know you cant look at every post,its out of the question but let me give this example.

ON PROPHESY

Elijah has 450 false prophets on Mt Carmel and Obadiah hid 100 True prophets in two caves .Elijah wins the competition but he kills the 450 false prophets ,he doesnt kill the 450 and the 100 prophets because that would be saying you know so many Prophets are false ,liars ,in it for personal gain or are just deluded that if I kill all of the Prophets I will get rid of the problem of prophesy all
together.
You cant throw the baby out with the bathwater.You cant kill all prophesy just because part even a greater part is rubbish.Its not possible to explain the Joel Prophesy away as well.

ON PAUL

Paul says No the words of the brethren are not enough.These words have to Exhort,Console and Edify and they have to come directly from the heart of God (Every word that comes from the heart of God is doctrinally and biblically correct)

"We have the words of God brethren, are they not enough?"

ON CHRISTIANS CALLING THEMSELVES BY THERE GIFTINGS

Anyone who calls themselves by their giftings such as saying I am Apostle Michael or I Am Prophet Frank or I am Pastor Patrick are causing a big problem.They are opening up the body to disunity and wrong authority to the point of witchcraft.

On Women Pastors
Greg I believe correct me if I am wrong I heard you debate for he wearing of head covering for women in the past and to be honest I couldnt agree with you at all on that doctrine and this woman seems to lead a group ,I dont know how many and she loves the Lord and not too much of a fruit cake as far as I heard .So you may be far away from her doctrinally wise but she loves the Lord and says she is hearing from him

urs staff

Well said Brother Greg.

The church has become too carried away with prophecy in these times but the only thing we need is the Bible. Prophecy has its place and time. I am shocked at how much the church believers have idolized Trump, idolized politics, idolized the republican party, idolized government and the constitution. God will share his glory with no man. Mathew 7:13 ...... For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. The United States, Politics, republican party or Trump is no savior to this country or no savior of the world. Our Savior is Jesus Christ. I rarely hear anything about Jesus Christ these days, rarely here anything about Gods word anymore. All I hear and see now is TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP and by the church. For the sake of being decent here, I would like to show a post I saw of this group and a specific woman had her breast exposed to show a painting of her stomach and upper chest that said God Bless Trump, but I will not. Wow how crazy have we become. Do not be deceived! The World and this country needs Jesus NOT TRUMP. Listen carefully, in the ten commandments it teaches us not to use the Lords name in vain. This man cannot be cursing people, mocking people, causing destruction, and at the end of the day say God bless you. What?! Wake Up everyone. I have heard every excuse pastors and believers have made to justify this man, and all it is is covering the multitude of sins. We will not change the world with politics, we will change it with the Gospel and the Holy Spirit. If you voted, then leave it at that. Stop trying to justify a man. Justify the Gospel to unbelievers. Can you imagine unbelievers right now in American? Do you think they want this so called God of your right now with politics? Like I said, I am shocked at the church right now.

Hi Jrg,

So No Christian I know that supports Trump Idolizes him.They realize like Cyrus he was just a man,just a man but we praise God for bringing him along so that people like you and me can have freedoms to express our faith.This is all about God.We glorify God for answering our prayers unexpectedly.

The problem with your post is that you dont recognize these things.
1.He is Pro Life and appointed pro life judges
2 He is pro the Nation state and against a one world government
3 He has brought prayer back into the White house
4 He has named Jesus Christ as Lord from a White house podium(you must not have been listening when he mentioned Jesus)Trump has not taken the name of the Lord in Vain.
5 He has been completely Pro Israel and has recognized Jerusalem as Israels Capital
6 He Supports Freedom of Speech

If we dont support Trump we are supporting the following

1 Abortion and More Babies dying
2 We support becoming part of One World State and system
3 God or Jesus will not be recognized in the highest office in the land
4 We will be supporting Anti Semitism and eventually a Holocoust
5 We will be supporting Militia Violence through BLM a wing of the Democrat Party
6 We will be supporting Censorship and the shutting down of Sermonindex

The Choice is clear do you want to support Abortion or do you want to support an imperfect man supporting and promoting the correct things?
The complaints Ive heard from Christians about Donald Trump amount to "he sips water out of a bottle in a funny manner" or Donald Trump used the "F Word and it hurts my delicate sensiblities" or "Donald Trump has a rough manner".
How dare Jesus kick over the moneychangers tables,such violence ,he cant be from God!,John The Baptist well id believe him if he were a little softer in tone ,hes just too fiery for me and dont let me start on about Paul who instead of standing and being marytred for the Gospel escaped in a basket ,he couldnt possibly one of us.
What sins has he committed that you or I havent?

No leader in the US has done more for Christians in our lifetimes.America did not elect a Pastor,they elected a President.

This is not about Justifying a man wrongly but I will justify him if he has done the right things ,its about glorifying a Great God who on November 8th 2016 stopped a very evil person from becoming President and put in an imperfect man with a nature just like ours into office to become a buffer against evil for Christians,

urs staff
Many Christians will not be pleased no matter what God does

17‘ We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.’ 18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’…

I think the main question before the church now is not whether they are for President Trump or against him. The question is have the many prophets who strongly prophesied he would serve another four years brought FALSE or TRUE prophecies? They have either been right or they have been wrong. That is the bottom line issue.

Hi Docs,
Yeah I agree this is a bottom line issue,were the prophecies true or false.

The sub issues are
A Is prophecy for today
B What to do with False Prophets or Christians that make false Prophecies in the New Testament Church
C Has God put President Trump in Office to do his bidding and how do we know that.

and one more thing for me anyway

As Christians how can we posslibly trust CNN,MSNBC etc who have told and peddled falshoods,incited and supported violence against conservatives and have pariticipated in mass censorship of Christian voices is beyond me and I can only put it down to some delusion.
I am looking across at King David wondering what on Earth is King David doing trying to line up with the enemies of God,urs staff

I don't think very many Christians at all trust those networks or put their trust in what they say. That seems a straw man argument born out of frustration. The Christians I know are trying to discern God's voice. If these prophets have spoken falsely then their word has been as harmful as those networks because they said they were speaking from the Lord. We are still waiting to see what was what.

Hi Docs
Its not at all a strawman arguement.
If Christians were not listening or being effected by main stream media then they would not be putting up the arguements we are listening too.Why are we not able to discern the simple stuff.

Such as

A-Their is no evidence of Election fraud or Voter fraud and that the election was rigged.They would rather listen to the CNN version than listen to the millions of Christians who have said that it is.Peoples lives were and are in jeopardy who testified under avadavit and may end up in Jail for taking a stand.
B-I dont like Trump because of his manner,how could he be Gods man.A narrative straight from main stream media sown,watered and harvested over the last four years.

The dogs in the streets know it was not a free and fair election and even now late in the day when we are under the heaviest censorship we have ever endured we have Christians still standing where David found himself and the Philistines.

This arguement is fair game

A Is Prophesy for today
B Are these Prophecies true or False

urs staff

I don't get the sense at all Christians have tuned into those networks, nor are saying that prophecy is not for today. They are saying it remains to be seen whether or not they have been prophesied to falsely regarding Trump's next four years. I've heard prophecies and words stating that the prophetic movement is about to be humbled down to zero like a stump because it has become so mixed with man and presumption. This will be done to help restore the prophetic office to its TRUE definition and function. We shall see. I'm not going to say anymore but prefer prayer and waiting at this point.

Thank you.

Hi Docs,
That the Prophetic movement is going to be humbled that is indeed nessacary because of the rubbish and piano playing nonsense attached to it.The majority of people who have said 4 more years and were tagging along for the ride have apologized already and will have no credibility.
Who made these prophecies you heard?rhetorical
Will they be humbled if he does get 4 years more.

The lie being peddled is that "we have become so mixed up with a man "(im not talking about you lying but you said it so well)
Christians who have supported Trump are giving God the Glory for giving us a leader like him.So regardless of whether he gets 4 years Christians have not been duped by a man .Supporting Trump is not about Trump the imperfect man but God the perfect God who can use anyone.

When Joshua died they mourned him not because they became so mixed up with Joshua that they took their eyes of God.They mourned him because he was such a great leader.

Its Apostolic doctrine that needs to be restored to the Church because Apostles sort out bad prophets!
urs staff

Like I said, I'm saying mo more. Time is soon to let us know one way or the other. Whatever He does and which ever way He causes it to go will be all right with me since He is sovereign.

Whether Trump or Biden is President!

Here is a Christian Perspective on our current world situation

Christians we need a real spiritual revival that will cause many of us to get back to our first love.

Many have left the peace of Jesus for fear of what’s going to happen to the USA. We shouldn’t let anything cause us to loose our peace. If we have lost our peace it is because we have gotten our eyes off of Jesus and His great love!

Isaiah 26:3-4
3 Thou wilt keep [him] in perfect peace, [whose] mind [is] stayed [on thee]: because he trusteth in thee.
4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH [is] everlasting strength:

We Christians are suppose to have perfect peace because we are trusting in the Lord! We are strangers and pilgrims only passing through. This world is not our home. The sooner Jesus raptures His church and comes back to destroy this evil world the better it will be!

God has not called Christians to make America great. He has called us to make Christ known and exalt His greatness! Why are so many Christians so focus on what some think is going to happen to the USA (a world that will soon be destroyed by fire anyway) that we have lost our joy of an eternal glorious world kingdom to come. There are so many preachers that are now preaching false and fearful information instead of the true gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. We are not to take over the USA to make it patriot Christian nation. That is the wrong war to be fighting! We are to be in the world but not of it. We are to be salt and light. We are to win is many lost souls as we can before it is too late. God will destroy this nation as well as the whole world in His time. Then he will make all things new.

The mission of the Christian is not to follow Trump or Biden but only Jesus. It is to pray for all government officials so we can lead a quiet and peaceful life. It is not to join a political party and be divided from the other party. The mission of Christians is to reach the lost and disciple believers in the Kingdom of God...not to be worried about what is going to happen to the world.

We should be more focused on the Kingdom of God! It is time to turn all the propaganda news off and get into the good news. There is conservative propaganda news as well as liberal propaganda. We Christians should not be watching the news more than we are reading our Bible and praying. We should be hearing from God not men’s opinions.

Search the scriptures! Where does it say that it is a political battle that we Christians are to be involved in? It’s not a political battle but a spiritual battle!

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Jesus has not joined the Republican Party against the Democrat party! It is a terrible sin to misrepresent the Lord. His kingdom is not of this world. We should be praying for all people.

The Bible tells us to not speak evil of others. We should not slander others nor speak evil of others whether Democrats or Republicans. God is not pleased with the way so many Christians are judging and speaking hateful about others because of their political affiliation. God will discipline those that are truly his, and those who refused to be disciplined according to the scriptures are bastards and not his children. Christians need to stop pointing the finger or we will be judged by God. We all need the grace of God. We have all have sinned and need forgiveness!

Are you a true follower of Christ?

1 Peter 2:21-25 (KJV)
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that judgeth righteously:
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Please Christians, wake up before it is too late! We must follow Christ and trust His Word! You could die tomorrow with a heart attack from anxiety, anger, and fear because you have a misplaced hope. Will you be ready to meet the Lord?

God has put a great concern in my heart for His people not to leave their love for Christ and be deceived!

Please repent and get on your knees in prayer! Renew your heart, let him restore your peace. Jesus gives us His peace that passes all understanding ! If you are living in fear then you are not trusting in the Lord!

He that hath ears to hear let him hear!

Love you all in Christ!
Pastor Roger Banks

Hi rbanks
Your post is a slight(not delibrately) on Christians who support Trump.Let me explain.Christians who support Donald Trump love Jesus as much as you ,follow Jesus as much as you and love the word as much as you.Its not about republican or democrat its about righteousness.If the democrats had some righteousness left people would support them but they dont.

Nobody is following Donald Trump or expects salvation from Donald Trump ,all Christians who support Trump are following Jesus not Trump.Because we are following Jesus is the reason we support Trump.We know that by supporting Trump the USA will get rid of Abortion,it will support Israel and it will stop the Censorship going on right now that would eventually close down SermonIndex.So its very incorrect to say that, when Christians who have supported Trump have clearly said that over and over.Also their is no circumstance that any US Christian could vote for Biden and be correct in doing so.
You cant put what Biden stands for and what Trump stands for in the same sentience and try to even handed about it.One stands for Abortion and hatred of Christians and Jews and other is the opposite.

"The mission of the Christian is not to follow Trump or Biden but only Jesus."

On Perfect Peace
We are not to substitute truth for peace.

How do you think this peaceful life is going to come about?
Do you think google and facebook are going to let us live in peace?So what actually happened is over the years millions of Christians prayed for a more righteous government and guess what the Lord gave it too us in 2016.How peaceful is it for young women who are coerced into having an Aborion by planned parenthood?The Great Comission is to spread the Gospel to everyone which includes democratically elected politicians.

"It is to pray for all government officials so we can lead a quiet and peaceful life."

The false doctrine that Christians should not be involved in politics has left the barn door open to every ill.No wonder dictators have arisen over the years,
A patriotic nation means the nation will remain to exist and in existing will be a border against evil.Thats why God likes borders its because it slows the spread of evil down ,
urs staff

Jesus said...My Kingdom is not of this World!!!

The Christians of the first 3 centuries lived under dictatorship and were persecuted horrendously! They stilled prayed for the King and did not have hate in their heart for their persecutors.

It is so sad today that so many Christians cannot separate their allegiance to the kingdom of Christ from their allegiance to their American ideal.

The mission of the Christian is not to be in a war with democrats and republicans...or conservatives and liberals. The mission of Christians is to reach the lost and disciple believers in the Kingdom...not warring with words against our neighbors as so many are caught up in. Lord help us to be more focused on the Kingdom of God!

Search the scriptures! Where does it say that it is a political battle that we Christians are to be involved in? It’s not a political battle but a spiritual battle!

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Jesus has not joined the Republican Party! His kingdom is not of this world. We should be praying for democrats as well as republicans to be save and live right before God.

We have had an election in the USA whether we consider it to be right or wrong. We Christians are not to be law breakers. We must not hate our neighbors or our enemies. We must be subject to Christ in love. We are to be peacemakers not law breakers.
Do you honestly think that God wants us to be divided along party lines. Jesus died for all people. We should love and witness for Christ to everyone. We shouldn’t put down and talk hateful to Democrats, Republicans or anyone else.

The Bible tells us to not speak evil of others. We should not slander others nor speak evil of others whether democrats or republicans. God is not pleased with the way so many Christians are judging and speaking hateful about others because of their political affiliation. God will discipline those that are truly his, and those who refused to be disciplined according to the scriptures are bastards and not his children. Christians need to stop pointing the finger or we will be judged by God. We all need the grace of God. We have all have sinned and need forgiveness!

1 Timothy 2:1-4 (KJV)
1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

We should pray for all people, with love for them in our heart, and not look at them with hatred if there a democrat, republican or independent. Jesus teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. He also teaches us to love our enemies. We should be hoping all people will be saved before it is too late! When the days of grace is over then God will be the final judge of those who didn’t accept Him...as well as how we Christians loved Him in the keeping of his commandments.

Love you all in Christ!
Pastor Roger Banks

Hi rbanks,
Our kingdom is not of this world but we have to participate in this world and not hide behind out off context scripture.
The question is if we see evil going on like a samaritan being beat up ,do we walk past and allow that person to be beaten or do we try and stop that.

If anyone wants martydom and persecution just buy a ticket to North Korea.Paul went down in a large basket to avoid persecution.
Again you are making a few rather lofty assumptions.
1.How do you know that Christian Trump Supporters dont love people as much as you do?
2How do you know Christian Trump supporters dont pray for poeple and love them with their hearts as much as you?
3 Christian Trump supporters have not slandered or spoken evil about anyone,they have done what Jesus would do which is tell the truth.The election was a complete fraud and the democrat party and some of the republican party is completel evil.
4 Christian Trump supporters are not law breakers any more than you are,and remember that next time you break the speed limit!
So this isnt about love or peace or kingdoms.No this is about having a clear shot at Hitler knowing that if I dont 6 million people will die.You would sit by and not take the shot and I would take the shot .Who is right?Its a doctrine that has not been agreed on over the centuries,
urs staff

Blessings to you Staff!

I voted for Trump and I’ve prayed for him. I love President Trump and still pray for him to see the error of his way. I pray that he will truly be saved and become a true follower of Jesus Christ.

I just can’t follow him in his wrong doing. I pray that he will become a new creature in Christ before it is too late!

I just wanted to give you the truth and give you something to think on!

May God bless you Staff. I’m bowing out of this thread, I hope you the best.

Sincerely for Christ,
rbanks

Hi rbanks
Look what you are saying.....
Yes you are to over look it in the sense that it shouldnt stop you voting and supporting him.
Why because if you dont you are either not going to vote or you are going to support vote for a party and a leader that supports the killing of millions of babies and that is anti semitic to the core .
If you dont vote then you are missing the oportunity to get rid of Abortion and a host of other good things that he would do.

ON TRUMPS BEHAVIOUR(hes a NEW YORKER)
1.He behaves as good as any President ive seen and heard
2 Obama and the democrats hate Jesus and are atheistic ,while Trump promoted prayer and had pastors into the white house regularly.
3He was elected as President not as a Pastor.
4 Let God deal with his shortcomings the way he deals with our shortcomings
5.Pray that he may become more like his father in heaven.
6.I dont even know whether he is Christian
7.I heard him say unlike all other Presidents "Jesus Lord and saviour " on a few occasions and he wasnt ashamed.

ON AMERICA DEVIDED
America devided is not about Trump or caused by Trump its about good and evil and Jesus was the greatest at causing division.
America is divided because one side doesnt want it to be a nation ie Hillary Clinton open borders and has promoted liberal communism for years and the other wants free speech and freedom of religion and an open capital economy.
Any division in the US is caused by evil and you cant have unity for unity sake .You cant have unity if it means a liberal communist take over keeps the peace.Its a false peace.Peace at any price is too big a cost,
urs staff

God Bless you Rbanks and hopefully peace,righteousness and truth will win out and everyone will be safe for the next couple of weeks.urs staff

Yes...blessings

I do hope President Trump is vindicated.

I realize that President Trump is not the poster child for Christian living, but neither was Nebuchanezzer or Cyrus whom God spoke to, used and called for his purposes.

I didnt vote for Trump because he was a Christian, I voted for him because he is sympathetic to Christian virtues, Christian Churches, the whole religion itself. He has proven this over the last 4 years.

Biden, commander and thief right now has no intent on duplicating what God did through Trump. It's an easy vote and an easy one to figure out.

No one I know has claimed President Trump is some kind of example of Christian leadership, but he is a leader that still has a connection to values and truth that the new administration is completely blind to.

It may very well be that Biden is a judgment on our nation and it wouldnt surprise me if things get much worse...in fact we will long for the days of 'terrible ole trump'...while we at least had a modicum of freedom and openness.

I watched the President speak at the capital among all of his supporters, there is nothing in that speech that can be construed as a 'rally call' to rioting. That is purely the work of the lunatic liberal media...that so many Christians seem to get their information from.

We really, really are being lied to every day, propagandized every day, herded like cattle into a submissive-silent-complacent group were God is as dead to us as he is to them. Jesus is as absent to us as he is to them.
But God is not dead, nor is Jesus an absentee Lord.

Christians follow Jesus, but it might surprise you to know in a free society were such wonderful freedoms and privlege have abounded unto us didnt come by accident, it came by men whom God used to lead such a nation.

If we continue to think President Trump and Biden are just one side of the same coin or just two pieces of the same pie...then with what judgment you judge it shall be meeted out to you again...Christians ha...there the same as Islam, Hinduism etc just another religion out to control the masses and silence thinking minds. Is that really the truth about Christians?

Yes, this is is very much in tune with my perspective-

It’s interesting for me to see so many here convolute the faith of their brethren, as if it’s not firmly founded in Christ?

Having said this- I have never seen nor read account of demonic principalities openly converge to thwart and oppose a President or administration as they have Donald J. Trumps’ -
Likewise I have never seen nor read account of a President who so openly fought for Christian principals as has Donald J. Trump -

Were not the early Christians political dissidents? Did the rulers not outlaw the practice of their faith ? Did they not disobey the laws seeking to prevent the practice of their religion? Were they not persecuted for said disobedience?
Would they not have rejoiced and considered it a blessing from God if they had received a leader whom fought for their ability to freely practice their faith without fear of persecution? Would they have "picked apart” this persons character, choosing not to receive this blessing due to the perceived character of the individual enabling it? Would they not praise God for His mercy and rejoice?

This would be like the injured Jew rejecting the assistance of the Good Samaritan because he didn’t meet the requirements of Jewish Law 😳...

Hi brother Marvin,

you speak exactly as the conspiracy believers of the world. NO different here then, we believe just like the world believes. This is exactly what extremists are saying as well. Great example of how the world has come into the church and influenced the church instead of the church influencing the world. Blessings to you.

Hi Staff,

I have heard Trump loud and clear. I would kindly say this, many of your comments are not biblical true. There is an overwhelming about of scripture that warns us of such man like this. Pro LIfe he is not, He is very far from pro life. He perverted that message for his gain. He actually used an executive order to rip babies away from their mothers at the border, which now are lost. Many got sick and passed on sadly. If he was really pro life he would not had done that to the babies and mothers by force, not giving them a choice. To say no leader has done more for Christian as him is extremely wrong. You must have forgot about history then. Sound like denial as well about idolizing trump. Never have we seen so much passion to put and keep this man in power. This passion has never beeen present for Jesus. But so easily exposed, many believer have hit the streets to show their love and passion for a man, trump. Never for Jesus though. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem is nothing to fathom. The location is nothing. Jerusalem will always be there. The fact that you said he has mentioned the name of Jesus from a WH podium is impressing to you is something to be of great caution. So any man regardless of life can use the name of Jesus and you will quickly worship that man. Regarding your F word comment, Jesus never used the F word, he never cursed. No comparison what so ever with Jesus to Trump. However you just proved how you have tried to compared Trump to Jesus, shows where you hear is. Beware of the worship to Trump.

I repost this as I put it in the wrong post.This is to correct the total inacuracy in your post.You have made some amazing claims that you didnt follow up with any evidence.You have been delibrately provocative so as to cause arguements and division and to get Greg to close any posts on Trump.Whether Greg falls for that I dont know.

Hi Jr,

At least you are honest "you dont like Trump" ,that is admirable.Let everyone repent not just President Trump but you and me and all the Trump haters need to repent too!who have no logical reason to hate him but they do anyway.

Lets correct the record

Pro Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Njm2IjWEsI

TRUMP AT AN ANTI ABORTION RALLY .
He ran on a Pro Lift platform and as you know or should know the law of the country is that it is "legal to a abort babies".It is legal
The only legal way to stop that is to pick Supreme Court Judges who are Pro Life .Donald Trump picked 3 pro life Judges.Donald Trump could perhaps send in the Troops to stop abortion but then Christians would be complaining that he was a law breaker!
This paves the way for a case to arise that will eventually reach the court and will over turn Rowe v Wade.

On Propaganda believed by Christians

As you know or should know Donald Trump's did not build cages as reported by CNN etc .The cages were built by the Obama adminstration .
This is issue on the border is And I repeat nothing to do with Abortion or pro life.
The baby issue was a mistake granted but as far as possible they tried to rectify the situation and because he built a wall on the border these scenes created over many years are becoming extinct.All administration make mistakes ,All.

ON ISRAEL

We have had many presidents who said they wanted an embassy move but didnt do it.The Obama administration and the democrats who are atheists support Palestine and Iran enemies of Israel .Trump has put both back in their box.

Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minster of Israel 19hrs ago.
BBC
"After holding talks with Mr Trump in Washington DC on Monday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised the president as "the greatest friend that Israel has had in the White House".
Obama was greatly antisemetic recognised by Christians and Jews throughout the world and by the US abstention in the UN.
For anyone to say that Donald Trump did not carry out his mandate on Israel and on Abortion is totally incorrect ,
urs staff

AMEN on the first reply from Greg, it's interesting that it seems that many Americans seem to think that America is there real homeland and that it's a blessing to live there... but when I see America I think of the damage that for example holywood has done to my nation.. and the many deceptions that came from America (JW, Mormons, Toronto-'blessing', a Christianity without repentance and holiness, etc.). I know that God gave a lot of blessings to America in the past, the revivals, the constitution... but those revival-times are a long time gone. I would really desire to see that the church in America stops with worshiping America, and starts seeing that America isn't a christian nation, but a nation a head for big time judgement. That a massive repentance and return to God will take place in the house of God! That they see the need of it all and start seeking the kingdom of God!

O God, have mercy!

Hi Wijand,
Their are so many evils that are in America,as you say and Hollywood has been the mouth piece for so many other evils such as Abortion,the Gay agenda and all the other identity politics.This is the very short list.

But I think one side of the Church are trying to corner the market on Holiness and Repentance and Judgement.All I hear from Christians who support Trump is repentance ,America needs to repent.
Here is a link for Marcus Rogers, he still believes Trump will get in and he believes in Pre trib but he strongly preaches about the evils of the US and the need for repentance.
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrMarcusjrogers/videos

Nobody I have heard who are Christian Trump supporters dont think America will not be Judged.Most likely if at the end of this process ,after all the agony ,injustice ,lies and now persecution in the form of censorship that God does part the Red Sea and allows President Trump a second term their will be a great repentance and celebration in the US Church and even more so world wide.

Nineveh
God allowed Nineveh a second chance when they humbled themselves and repented ,cant he do the same for the US who have far more people.We can not worship "Persecution ,Pacifism and Repentance" either as many are fond of doing.
Their has to be a "Catalyst" for repentance to happen just like Jonah was the Catalyst for Nineveh.Or should I say Jonah wasnt the Catalyst but he delivered the Catalyst which was a prophetic message "Judgement is upon you".
According to some who posted previously on SI this message could not be conveyed today as it is a prophecy that foretells a future event and when it is going to happen ie straightaway.

Misnomer
The arguement that Christian Trump supporters worship America is not true.What is happening now is a liberal communist takeover which leads to many many more evils to add to the ones the US has already got.If you want the bodies to stack up their is nothing better than Good ol atheistic Communism.Christians have a love for the Nation state as does God.
Their has to be a distintion made between the Christian Trump Supporter and the Trump supporter.You cannot be accountable for a supporter who supports Trump that does not know the lord and expect them to act like they do.

urs staff