Prayer from demonic oppression

Praying you will receive clear directions concerning the spiritual attacks assailing you. Through Christ and His precious blood.

Hi John,
Not sure in which direction to pray for you in your situation.Its been a while since I looked at the scriptures regarding the deomonic but Jesus on occasion banished demons from re entry or what ever term in apt.This I believe is because the demon started oppressing when the the person was a child.
So it would be interesting to know is this from childhood .

John here is a link to a discussion I intiated on SI maybe 10 years ago Im guessing but if you go through that I sure their was many knowledgeable people on the discussion with some helpful insight

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40081&forum=36&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0

Let us know how you are getting on .I hope their is something helpful on the link,
God bless staff

Hi John,
Another thing is that if their is someone you may want to get in touch with that posted on that thread ,Greg may get in touch with them for you if you explain your reasons,
urs staff

Hi John,
Good to hear from you and that you are lining up some help.
My input from the Lord regarding demons is this which I got from God while reading a passage.
Many Christians believe a Christian cannot have a demon because they say "how can the Holy Spirit and a demon inhabit the same house"?
We can see from the story about Jesus casting the demons into pigs the answer.The legion asked Lord can you cast us into the pigs .Animals have no spirit and Jesus cast them into the pigs.So we see here that he demons do not inhabit a spirit they inhabit the flesh .So in my opinion demons do not inhabit a mans spirit whether he is saved or not.
So that tell us that a Christian can have a demon because the demon is not inhabiting his Spirit but his flesh,
Also the demon in this story was were trying to harm the man and the pigs ended up being harmed .
I hope our prays are answered quickly for you so you can get back to a normal healthy life which the Lord wants for you,keep us updated as it will help others on SI and you will be ministering to others while God is ministring to you ,so it will be a double portion of victory ,urs staff

Hi John ,
Well I wonder why you?and why the intermittent nature of it all?
Im sure youve asked those questions over and over.Anybody else in the family suffering the same thing is another question.
Unfortunately deliverance has got such a bad name over the years but its hugely important but neglected,
urs staff

Just a thought as I pray our Lord gives you clear direction. If there is any occult stuff within your house throw it away. Buy some oil from the store. Pray within each room claiming them through Christ and His precious blood. Dab a bit on the windows of each room. Afterwards you will sense a spiritual peace within your home. (Adding this... I say you will sense the difference, but it will be dependent on the gifts you’ve been given, but from what your stating I think you will.)

Concerning spiritual attacks your not crazy. There have been times when I witness I feel as if an invisible arrow hits my forehead. I just take such happenings as true spiritual warfare. No demons want to loose their hold on people.

Yes demons do speak. Memorize scripture combating what ever lies they are saying to you and repeat them back. Yes they put thoughts in our minds, that’s why it is extremely important to hold every thought captive onto Christ, and toss the evil ones.

I will continue in prayer that Christ gives you clear guidance. It is a prayer I most treasure from my brethren.

Praying for you. Praying you receive clear directions from our Lord.

"And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

"What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring charges against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, but rather, was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or trouble, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Just as it is written:”

"For Your sake we are killed all day long; We were regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.” But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Romans 8:28-39

Christians can be oppressed by the devil or demonic spirits, but not possessed. There is no scriptural proof for this.

"When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first." Matthew 12:43-45

We see from those verses that the unclean spirit was able to come back into the man because the man was empty. Christians most definitely are not empty.

As to animals having spirits, the scriptures say they do.

"Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" Ecclesiastes 3:21

I can remember a time in my life, when I was 18 (I am 35 now), when I was deeply convicted of sin. I was unsaved at the time, but I read the Bible voraciously. Out of nowhere I had blasphemous thoughts torment me, almost to the point of complete distraction. This went on for about a year. I remember lying in bed one night, and suddenly being paralyzed with fear. I heard what sounded like many people whispering all at once; I couldn't move. It was all I could do to say the name "Jesus" barely above a whisper. When I did, the voices started to laugh, but gradually receded.
It wasn't until I was 30 that I was truly saved. When I was, Satan did still try, on occasion, to harass me. But it wasn't a constant, continual thing.

John, this is my experience. I don't know you personally. It sounds to me like you sincerely want to follow Jesus. I would encourage you to not focus on the devil trying to distract you. Instead, turn your eyes upon Jesus. It almost seems to me that we give Satan more grounds to bother us if we focus on him instead of Jesus, or allow fear into our hearts. Don't be afraid. Remember, "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7 If this is not your experience, the way is open to you. Jesus died for you so you could be free.

brother look up mark heamans , Jesus encounter ministerys he deals better with demon possession and oppression better than anyone iv ever seen, he does online deliverance, you can sign up now I think he has one in a few days, but beware he preaches a holiness message and repentance and moves real strong in the gift of prophecy and the word knowledge so he doesn't play around, but the results speak for themselves. Be blessed in the mighty name of Jesus.

I have been going through the same recently
The enemy only attacks those who are doing damage

Look up brother mark, Jesus will set you free, do you believe Jesus can set you free!

No brother the devils will also attack those with sin in their life those that need to close doors.

As brother Gary said, seek that gentleman out.... (deleted unneeded info)...If there is unconfessed sin in your life repent, but also ask the Holy Spirit to reveal sins you need to repent for.... (Deleted unneeded info)

Added (Remember through the blood of Christ we have forgiveness of sins, and cleansing from sins. Victory comes through Christ and His finished work on the cross.

Added ( Brother Gary I’m glad you know a brother doing deliverance ministry. I was hesitant to just have him seek one out, was praying he would receive clear guidance concerning this. Blessings in Christ. )

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Christians can be oppressed by the devil or demonic spirits, but not possessed. There is no scriptural proof for this.]

Not posessed but indwelt. This was my own first hand experience. I had been gloriously saved beyond doubt and Jesus posessed me, but after a couple of weeks, a team of brothers and sisters prayed over me and discerned something was wrong with me. Demons manifested and they drove out several of them, at least five. Soon after I got filled with the Holy Spirit, and had experienced subsequent topping-ups.

I had been involved in imorality, various occult practices, meditation, and listened to rock music, that was the entrance door for the evil spirits.

To be honest, if the pastor who prayed for me only had his knowledge of spiritual things from books and theologians, he would have dismissed me and said Jesus had saved you, do not worry, go home. The demons would have caught up with me and something terrible would have happened to me.

Blessings to you billy, it actually breaks my heart to see a brother tormented for so long .......2pet 9The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance. It is gods will that all our brothers come to repentance and receive the full blessings of the atonement, but one thing I know its not always men's will to come to repentance, pride is normally the factor stopping some, and therefore god resists the proud , and gives his grace to the humble, humble your self under the mighty hand of God and he will lift you up. Many people get delivered through repentance without the need of elders , I don't know why that is god is sovereign I suppose, it the same with sickness, you can anoint yourself with oil and pray for your own healing and that prayer of faith will heal your self. but James teaches that whats elders are for, and brother mark Herman is an elder that has that type of unwavering faith. That is the idea we all come conformed to the image of his son and that christ be fully formed in us . Hebrews 5:12- By now you should be teachers. Instead, you need someone to teach you again the first things you need to know from God’s Word. You still need milk instead of solid food. 13 Anyone who lives on milk cannot understand the teaching about being right with God. He is a baby. 14 Solid food is for full-grown men. They have learned to use their minds to tell the difference between good and bad.

Narrowpath, please show me any scripture that says christians can be indwelt by demons. This doctrine can create slavish fear in believers, constantly worrying the devil is going to invade them.

I don't know you personally and can't speak of your experience, but I do know the Holy Spirit will not "share" a christian with demonic spirits. "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." John 8:36

if Christian can fall away from the faith he can taste the heavenly gift one day and fall away and grieve the spirit the next, like a dog returning to its own vomit or like sow after its washed it returned again to mud. Do you know what is in that mud, every unclean thing . 2peter 2..21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and then to turn away from the holy commandment passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit,” and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.”

heb 6 4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6[c]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

The once saved always saved doctrine is the devils cruch .

Hi All,
Theirs the point I made on other threads .If you say anything about persecution or you can lose your salvation or Post Trib being wrong on SI you get shouted down and insulted and you guys start crying in ur soup but once its the other side its perfectly fine and we are meant to have to take it ,urs staff

"The once saved always saved doctrine is the devils cruch"

Hi Drifter,
A Christian cant be indwelt by demons and I would say probably no one can .Its not clear in my opinion that a demon can inhabit a Spirit saved or unsaved but it can inhabit the body saved or unsaved ,urs staff

Hi Nigel,

Scripture mentions that believers can be re-entered by evil spirits under certain conditions:

Mt 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

I was a believer, washed and cleansed by the blood, born of the Spirit, but not yet filled with the Holy Spirit. I dare to say, I was converted but my Christian birth had not been completed, because evil spirits had to be cast out.

Applying verse 43, you could say, Jesus had legally purchased me with his blood and became the owner of my house, as I signed my life over to Him, but the evil squatter tennants had to be cast out. So he arranged a prayer squad to do the job, who evicted the tennants by the power of the law of God by invoking the blood signed covenant the new owner had made.

Once the tennant were gone, the house was emptied of garbage by my repentance, swept clean by his blood, garnished with a living hope and heavenly promises, and the Holy Spirit came in and filled the house even to overflow.

Mind you, after I was delivered and filled with the Holy Spirit the devils wanted to come back - Verse 44, but could not enter again, because my house was not only cleared, cleaned and garnished, and OCCUPIED by the Spirit and NOT empty as in Mt 12:45.

There is a stern warning in Verse 45: A formerly demonized believer could easily backslide if he was not filled with the Holy Spirit.

In the NT, the norm was that a convert was baptized in water and than they layed hands on him to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Note how thorouhly the apostles always made sure believers got filled with the Holy Spirit. If not, they would teach them about it and then laid hands on them, with the effect that the Holy Spirit came down on the believer.

They new full well, conversion was only half the job. The church could not function with converts only, they had to experience their calvary but also pentecost and become disciples!

Every new born child will take its first breath, that is a picture of being filled with the Holy Spirit!

The son has made me free, he purchased me, forgave me, delivered me from demons, and filled me with his deputy - that is my fulfillment of John 8:36.

Thank you for sharing this wonderful testimony Narrowpath!

Hi narrowpath, as I said in an earlier post when I explained that passage in Matthew 12, the demon came back (and brought 7 more with him) because the person was empty. Believers are not empty, they have the Holy Spirit. Even a believer who is not baptized with the Holy Spirit still HAS the Holy Spirit. If I have to choose whether to believe the scriptures or someone's experience, I will choose the scriptures every time. Maybe you misunderstood your experience? I have seen people have a touch from God and still remain unsaved (myself included).

Gary, I do not believe in "once saved always saved". It is abundantly clear from scripture that a believer can lose their faith and walk away from Jesus; after this, if they continue in unbelief and harden their heart, they can become demon possessed.

To say that a believer can have a demon in their body but not their spirit is unscriptural in light of 1 Corinthians 6:19, "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" We see there it is the body which is the temple.

Hi Drifter,
The Temple is used as an example here and the Temple had a few courts and in this example the Holy of Holies is the Spirit,
The problem is its not abundantly clear and we have many denominations due to this teaching.For me its clear that OSAS is the only teaching that deals with Grace properly as I have said before.Losing your salvation has a problem with grace,
"It is abundantly clear from scripture"
urs staff

Drifter

"To say that a believer can have a demon in their body but not their spirit is unscriptural in light of 1 Corinthians 6:19, "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" We see there it is the body which is the temple.”

The warning from Paul here reveals the believers were becoming ONE with prostitutes in this example brother. Now when speaking of becoming one we know their is a mystery behind it as Paul wrote in another epistle.

Drifter, I to after being born again felt a darkness still around me. Inward, outward, in flesh, in Spirit, attached to my soul ect. Not sure about those specifics. I don’t concern myself with knowing everything. Sometimes though through doors opened brethren need more help. Thankfully God has provided that help when it is absolutely needed.

Demons have not vanished. Christ cast many out of people. The apostles cast many out of people. It is still a needed ministry in the body of Christ. Revealed by Christ, and passed down to us through His Apostles, and other disciples before us.

(I'd first like to say to Greg: if you'd rather we not discuss this topic I totally understand.)

Hi staff.

We have to balance scriptures like

"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." John 10:28

with scriptures like

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13

If I stay faithful to Jesus He will keep me. To say that I can't fall away is to negate free will. Keith Green said "If I want to go to hell God's got to let me."

I want to have grace to people who hold different views, so if you believe in OSAS, that's okay, God bless you.

William, I am fully aware the devil has not closed up shop, so to speak. I've actually seen a demonic spirit, I've seen demon possessed people, I have felt demonic presences at times. It's a very real battle we're in, and I take it seriously.

I think we all need discernment as to when we should try to cast out devils from people as opposed to leading people to freedom through just plain old repentance and faith. I think some christians are too focused on demonic activity. I think it was Leonard Ravenhill that said "Poor old Lucifer gets the blame for everything these days, when our problem is really sin!" I concur. I don't think we need to go around casting out "tobacco demons" and "headache demons" etc. There is a place for deliverance ministries; however our focus should be on repentance and faith in Jesus.

Deliverance ministries are like a temporary bandaid and are good for a short term fix. Bible teaching keeps them out for good because the point of entry for demons is disobedience. If people learn God's word and walk in obedience that is the better remedy in the long term.

John 8:31-32 - Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

And sadly solid expository bible teaching is the one ministry that is missing/neglected in many churches. This is why if you look at the epistles especially Paul's last letter and Peter's last letter the focus is on doctrine/scripture because it solves many of the problems in the church.

I agree Drifter and Platy concerning this, Thanks for your commits.

No problem. I just threw that in there because some deliverance ministries the demons keep reentering the person and when you investigate closer its because basically they are not sola scriptura and are anti doctrinal/theology. We need both spirit and robust systematic theology. Can't be unbalanced.

According to one brothers statement here, I was either not saved or not demon indwelt. But I know for sure, I was both.

And if someone in my tormented state had told me you are now in Jesus, safe and eternally secure, do not worry about demons, I would probably have lapsed back into darkness and the man with the OSAS theology would have argued himself out by saying that I was probably not saved in the first place and predestined to damnation anyway, so the will of God was fulfilled either way.

It was actually during the process when the pastor lead me through thorough repentance, that he discovered that demons where involved.

When the man born blind who was healed was examined by the Pharisees, they rather had him stay blind because it did not fit their theology.

There are passages in scripture that are purposely shrouded in mystery, they cannot be reasoned out but must be revealed by the Spirit.

The bible does not say clearly, whether a Christian can be indwelt by demons. For me it is clear, because like the man born blind and healed I know I was delivered and I am now free. If some of you only knew the gross darkness I was in and the glory of Christ that I e at my salvation and powerful infillig of the Holy Spirit, that happened to me, you would perhaps think otherwise.

I am saying all these things not trying to win an argument, but in view of the OP who for years posts the same things about demonic oppression. It moves me greatly and I wish I could do anything to help you, because I was helped by the mercy of God.

Dear brother Bible4life,
I am telling you there is deliverance in Christ, make sure you have thoroughly repented of any known sin, made restitutions, brought relationships in order and get rid of anything to do with witchcraft, astrology, heavy metal, occult books, yoga, meditation, amuletts, drugs and all that sort of stuff and ask Christ to send a brother who knows the things of the Spirit and pray for your deliverance. Also confess any unforgiveness, hatred and curses you spoke out or idols you worshipped.
No Christian has to be tormented by demons, deliverance is yours to have, you are entitled to it. Never, ever give up, pray, fast and ASK. Just eliminate any claim or foothold the devil might have in you life.

I hope one day you can share your testimony here.

John,

Praying for you 🙏🏻

May the Lord Jesus Himself fight for you, deliver you, and grant you to have a testimony for His glory, that will bring hope to others, in His perfect time! ✝️

"May He send you help from the sanctuary, and strengthen you out of Zion” Psalm 20:2