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18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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sermonindex

https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

Interesting. (I did not click on all the links the author referenced, have not fact checked it...)

As time goes on, this issue seems to be more polarizing than even voting in the past election was!

Maybe it's just because of where I live or who I know, I'm not sure?

My sense is that in these times, we must extend tremendous amounts of grace and mercy to all of those around us, regardless of where anyone lands on matters of personal conscience. An error that I often made when I was younger in the faith (and I can still fall into this at times sadly) is forcing my opinions and convictions on others in a judgmental way.

May we be marked by love in this hour on earth dear saints (while remaining steadfast in the Truth)!

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TMK

I get my second in a few days. Can’t wait.

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JFW

Brother Caleb,
Thanks for sharing, I hadn’t seen allot of this and while the corruption involved is obvious the work put into this research article is eye opening 🙏🏻but I wonder why someone in whom the eternal, indestructible life of Christ is present and the blood of the same cleanses them as they walk in the light... why would they need a vaccine to preserve a life they already "died” to ? ...🤔

May we seek and walk in the light of Christ 😇

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MrBillPro

Imagine, if you will, a vaccine so safe you have to be threatened to take it, for a disease so deadly, you have to be tested to know if you have it. To save myself from any debates or arguments among friends and family, I don't disclose if I've had the shot or not, personally I feel this is my personal best policy, keeps down the strife level in my life.

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AbideinHim

I don’t know if the current administration, Dr. Fauci, and Bill Gates understand what they are doing or not with the lock downs and vaccinations, but this has the enemies foot prints all over it.

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followthelamb

"My sense is that in these times, we must extend tremendous amounts of grace and mercy to all of those around us, regardless of where anyone lands on matters of personal conscience. An error that I often made when I was younger in the faith (and I can still fall into this at times sadly) is forcing my opinions and convictions on others in a judgmental way.

May we be marked by love in this hour on earth dear saints (while remaining steadfast in the Truth)!"

Amen, Caleb. ✝️

As the Lord said, "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another...by this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”


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TMK

// why would they need a vaccine to preserve a life they already "died” to ? ...🤔 //

Do you reject all medical treatment?

There have been smallpox vaccines, MMR vaccines, polio vaccines, flu vaccines etc but all of sudden Covid vaccines are the work of the devil.

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Sree

THose who reject all kinds of vaccines are safe today because the people around them have taken vaccines so as to prevent the disease virus from reaching them. So to produce herd immunity the country does not require everyone to take vaccines, but only most of them who are sensible take the vaccine then it is good enough.

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TMK

Wow Sree that sounds like loving your neighbor. What a concept!

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Friedrick

How are you loving your neighbor by taking the vaccine if even the vaccine manufactures claim the vaccine does nothing to stop the transmission? It simply is claimed to reduce symptoms, but even that seems to have little credible data, at least according to the link.

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dolfan

There are reasons, strong or weak, more or less factual, on which to decide to get or not get a COVID vaccination. I chose to. What we mustn’t do is turn the choice into a matter of either conservative, Bible-believing right practice vs leftist, statist unbelieving lock-stepping. It just isn’t debatable on those particular fields of battle any more than driving with or without a motorcycle helmet is.

Whatever you choose, God bless you. You are free in America to follow that dictate of your own conscience for now. You should pray for all of us to have at least your wisdom and to pursue Christ while the world destroys over all these things.

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JFW

You wrote, "Do you reject all medical treatment?”
No

Injuries can and do occur and that’s why we have doctors, praise God 🙏🏻
You know, the type of doctor that Luke was when he tended to Paul...

The Bible makes a clear, decisive, immutable provision for sickness and disease on both a personal and corporate level. Personally it comes from discernment of the Lord’s body in communion - 1 Cor 11

Corporately it’s in anointing, faith, prayer, confession and
turning from error- James 5 [the act of the body restoring a member, a spiritual auto-immune system]

Honestly it’s compulsory or was until we (the body) abandoned discipleship/priestcraft. Now everything is outsourced... fathers don’t generally realize their own position in the body well enough as the priest of their own house to disciple their families and so that function is outsourced to the "church” which at best is supplemental. So there is an example of a fundamental breakdown of "discerning the body” where Paul says the result of which is many are sick, infirmed and die early -

Not all but most people getting the vaccine (if they’re honest) are doing so to live longer to "enjoy this world” and not to better "seek the kingdom” and that’s something they’re gonna have to take up with the Lord sooner or later... which is why my prayer is for mercy and discernment for all 🙏🏻


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Sree


Not all but most people getting the vaccine (if they’re honest) are doing so to live longer to "enjoy this world” and not to better "seek the kingdom” and that’s something they’re gonna have to take up with the Lord sooner or later... which is why my prayer is for mercy and discernment for all 🙏🏻

My observation is, most people who took the vaccine in the earlier phase did with fear. Fear of death. I say this because I saw the panic in people when the vaccines were made available. I followed what public felt in discussion apps like neighborhood. Most of them were panicing without any hope as if the vaccines are their savior. Most of them are elderly.

Any anxiety including the fear of death is a sin. A Christian who takes vaccines in the fear of death is still not secure in God's love.

I waited till all these anxious people get their vaccines. I believe we are now in a phase were all panic vaccinations are done. The place where I live, one can walkin and get vaccination done.

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TMK

Not only fear of death but also out of love for their families and wanting to visit. My older parents were never overly fearful about Covid, but me and my brother and sister and our kids were very worried about infecting them. After all if we got Covid we probably wouldn’t die but they might die due to their age and some other health issues. So no one wanted to visit them in person out of fear of infecting them. But the vaccine alleviates that fear. My sister and her husband visited them last month and we are all getting together to celebrate my dad’s 80th bday in June. We will all be vaccinated including grandkids so we can breathe easier.

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JFW

You wrote, " But the vaccine alleviates that fear. ”

Not to be the bearer of bad news but,... you do know that the "vaccine” doesn’t prevent transmission ?

In any case, I will lift your dad in prayer and join you in celebrating his 80th birthday 🎂 that is indeed a joyous occasion:))

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Sree


Not to be the bearer of bad news but,... you do know that the "vaccine” doesn’t prevent transmission ?

While it is not possible to theoretically prove that vaccines will prevent transmission, looking into our human history, many deadly viruses are curtained using vaccines like Polio for example.

I think how it works is, the more people are immune to the virus, the lesser is their chance of being a carrier.

I am not a medical expert. I am just telling my observation.

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Friedrick

Sree, the available covid vaccines are not comparable to traditional vaccines, they are very different.

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othniel22

The brothers reasons were great, informative and well researched. Kudos to you, sir! Thank you so much.

Eph_4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

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deogloria

I will not join the discussion or the debate at the moment, just adding some news from Denmark:

Denmark permanently turns back on AstraZeneca ”“ vaccine banned over 'serious side effects'
DENMARK has said it will completely stop using the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine as part of its Covid jab rollout.
By Katie Harris PUBLISHED: 13:40, Wed, Apr 14, 2021 | UPDATED: 21:08, Wed, Apr 14, 2021 (just search for the article )
"Denmark and Norway had maintained the pause to examine the vaccine further. But now the authorities in Denmark have decided that there's enough evidence to permanently suspend the vaccine in their country."

If I love my neighbors I share this news with them - to keep them safe !

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passerby

I am fully vaccinated against COVID for ethical reasons. As of now there is no conclusive evidence yet about the effectiveness of Covid vaccines, only relative efficacy against certain epidemiologic and clinical conditions of Covid.

Efficacy is a predictive mathematical description of a relative risk reduction. Vaccine trial results (from different vaccines manufacturers) with the same numerical values can not be interpreted as having equivalent efficacy. One has to to know the specifics of the research or trial design.

Many vaccines are clearly effective and safe, having been with us for decades now. I have received many doses as a requirement for schooling and work. Like other things in life, they can be used for evil purposes.

In my own case, I cannot find any compelling reason why I should refuse to participate in covid19 vaccination or be contentious about it, though I have reminded people that it is not a foolproof protection.

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Sree

For those who posted that Covid is a hoax and there is no reason to fear or shutdown business, how do you consider the condition in India? Currently many young people are dying in India due to Covid. The death rate is so high that there are mass cremations in India in open streets of the capital. The air is filled with smoke raising from the burning of dead.

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deogloria

This is completely off-topic.
Can you please start a new thread if you want to discuss the situation in India. Thanks.

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TMK

Not sure it’s off topic. The point is that the death rate in India is outrageously high due to lack of vaccinations.

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ccchhhrrriiisss

Regardless of your personal decision regarding any of the COVID-19 vaccines, I feel a need to point out that Christian Elliot's claims (in his "18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine") are woefully inaccurate, false or simply based upon very bad "correlation equals causation" assumptions.

I began to write a response that addresses each flaw for each of his "18 reasons." Ultimately, I decided that it would result in a very long and tedious written response. Besides, there are already others who have offered a rebuttal or criticism of Mr. Eliott's claims.

So, I would simply urge people to "TEST EVERYTHING" that they read. This certainly takes time; but, I think that it is prudent to verify and carefully examine any claims before staking them publicly.

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ginnyrose

Am I the only one here refusing to get the vaccine?

But let me tell you - my husband and I had this corvid-19 last summer. We have no idea where my hubby got it but am certain I got it from him because he got it first.

Let me share our experience.

It was July, hot like July's are in MS. He got to feeling exhausted, like having heat exhaustion- he had a heat stroke a few years ago and this was similar to it. Anyhow, since we were scheduled to have a family retreat in TN we decided to go early so we can rest and get some relaxing time in before the family gets there.

The family arrived - all of them - 27 of us. But my husband did not improve - he was tired and exhausted all the time. Our son and his wife decided to take their dad to an urgent care center to see what is wrong. He was x-rayed and told he had walking pneumonia and they prescribed amoxicillin but they also tested him for corvid-19. We went home the next day and a couple days later got a call informing us that he indeed tested pos for covid-19. By this time he felt pretty good and the ten day quarantine time was up.

I got to feeling bum and got tested and was tested pos. Got the antibiotic and recovered nicely. My symptoms were consistent with walking pneumonia - had it a couple times many years ago until I got the pneumonia vaccine and never got it since.

But would you know? Of the 27 people at our family retreat it was only my husband and I who had it? No face masks were worn, no social distancing was done. So all the hype about it being so deadly is over-blown.

All the people I knew who died from it had ongoing health issues. If it is indeed a type of pneumonia I can well understand how it can kill since I had it twice -remember thinking then how it could kill if it would be worse.

Are our days not numbered? If God wants us alive coronavirus can't kill you nor can any other kind of disease. Richard Wurmbrand said that if God wants you alive persecution cannot kill you. I understand this to mean NOTHING can kill you if God wants you alive. I do believe we are to be sensible in caring for our bodies but to live in fear?

In discussing these issues with others who have treated corvid-19 victims we have observed that a lot of the naysaying one reads about does have merit.

BTW, my husband is 76 YO and I am 74.

Have a good day!

Sandra Miller

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drifter

Hi Sandra. I also refuse to get the vaccine.

My reasons are:

1. I am 35 and in good health; my immune system works just fine.

2. I refuse to get a "vaccine passport" to travel within my own country (or any other country, for that matter).

3. The vaccines are experimental. They could cause long term health issues that we don't know about yet. If these giant pharmaceutical industries are so trustworthy, why is it that no one can sue them if they get a bad batch of the vaccine? (Just google "pfizer criminal history")

As a side note, I think this whole issue has been blown WAY out of proportion. I think the death counts have been grossly inflated, the CDC has changed it's definition of "herd immunity", and more people are dying of starvation, suicide, drug overdoses and lack of proper medical treatment than have died of Covid. I believe certain people (Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Joe Biden etc.) are using this to bring in the "Great Reset", i.e. worldwide communism.

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TMK

I wonder if the 4187 souls that died yesterday in India from Covid and the 400k new infections are grossly inflated numbers.

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drifter

Maybe they are Todd.

People have been hospitalized with an illness or injury and tested for covid while they were there; they test positive, but subsequently die of a non covid related cause; the hospital counts it as a covid death simply because they tested positive.

As for testing, someone can already have had covid and their immune system takes care of it; they test "positive", not because they have an active infection, but because they have leftover traces of the virus that can't infect anyone.

There are also millions of people starving to death because of the lockdowns; people can't feed their children because they lost their jobs, they are homeless and drug addicted, children being abused in record numbers.

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TMK

I am in agreement with all you are saying. The only thing I disagree with is the idea that this is not a serious virus because of anecdotal reports about the mildness of the disease. One can only guess as to what the number dead would be had no precautions been taken.

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drifter

I never said this is not a serious situation. I realize people have died from this virus and many more people have suffered health complications because of it.

You said it, one can only guess. Seeing as how this is an aerosol virus that can travel 30 meters, masks do absolutely nothing, so my guess is we could've expected about the same results, masks or no masks.

As far as lockdowns go, many, many more people have died as a result of the lockdowns compared to covid.

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TMK

If we had done nothing herd immunity may have been reached by fall 2020 so it is possible deaths may have been higher sooner but maybe less in the long run.

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drifter

That's what I think. Plus we would not have the excess deaths and crippled economy from the lockdowns.

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SteveHale

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/brainwash-back-batter-part-2-hugo-talks-lockdown_tTrWmP2oRLqjWex.html

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