I realize this is kind of a wide open question, but I am curious. When I am around other men and women of God, I often ask them what they are hearing from God about what He is doing and what is coming in the near future. I have had a number of men of God who I know walk near to Him tell me independently almost word for word the same thing in the last year or so. I am just curious as to what folks that use this forum are hearing from the Lord.
Habakkuk 2:3
For the vision is yet for an appointed time; But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries, wait for it; Because it will surely come, It will not tarry.
Travis-
Are these people in "the prophetic stream?” You may have no idea what I am talking about but when I used to attend a more charismatic church I heard the exact same kind of talk. You could even take a class to learn how to get "prophetic” words from the Lord.
A lifting of the veil-
exposing that old, ancient evil in the light of Truth ðŸ™ðŸ»
This exposing will consolidate those tolerant of this sin from those whom will not tolerate such sin.... then a harvest 😇
Fletcher,.. brother,
The Spirit within me, seemingly jumped within me as I read your words,... could you pls elaborate farther on what you are saying,.. ?
Wherefore, in times past, we hardly ever heard preached on the *kingdom of God,....which is the *gospel that is to be preached throughout the whole world,.. "and then shall the end be.”...
But now, we are hearing it regularly.
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elizabeth
Todd: I am trying to think of exactly how to word this. I really appreciate your input. Since I have not met you personally, I have to go off of what I read here, but I think we would get along really well. So I hope what I say is not taken wrong. Don't think it will be given the general tenor of your remarks that I read.
I find it interesting how we often classify and make judgements about different streams. I know something about this, because I have been super guilty of it myself from time to time.
Every believer is intended by God to be "prophetic" if we define that term as operating in the supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit as a normal part of their walk with the Lord. And, if we define the term as hearing the voice of God speaking to them regularly as well. In fact, it is the one thing that we are told to not only covet, but covet earnestly. It is the only thing about which coveting is a good thing in scripture.
The short answer is no, many if not most of the men I am hearing are not part of the "prophetic" stream the way you are, I think, using the term. However, every one of them are men who move regularly in the prophetic gifts.
Every one of us have some doctrinal points that, I am sure, we are going to find out in the end were a little on the goofy side. Praise God that being completely correct doctrinally is not the criteria for relationship with God. Some in every stream are really extreme and off the rails. We should be able to recognize that and be wary. But there are those in every stream who have vibrant and active walks with God and to whom He speaks, even if they seem a bit off to those of other streams. It is good to walk with men and women of all streams and get to know their hearts.
Just a few thoughts that hopefully answer your concerns.
I would really find it interesting to know what God has been speaking to you about the times we are living in and what He is doing and is about to do. I know I usually appreciate what you have to say on the forum.
Hey Travis-
I don’t disagree with anything you said. I know truly "prophetic” people - I know it when I see it. But there are so many flakes out there we have to be cautious.
Strangely enough, I have not had any strong sense of a word from the Lord about the times we are in, other than what can obviously be seen. I do not try to fit current events into scripture because I personally don’t think a lot of scripture pertains to our current events.
The only strong sense I have is to maintain my relationship with the Lord. I trust Him to speak to me in a special way as needed and I certainly trust Him to speak to my wife as needed. She has a very special closeness to Jesus.
That said, I am curious what others are hearing. I am intrigued by Fletcher’s post but it is a little too cryptic for me to fully understand it.
What are the people you reference saying?
" I have had a number of men of God who I know walk near to Him tell me independently almost word for word the same thing in the last year or so.”
Hi.
I woud appreciate it if you could share that with us, if you feel free to.
Blessings
We that are born again are the Lord’s sheep, and we do hear His voice. It is not usually an audible voice but a still small voice.
How many of you are having the Word of God being revealed, and then you hear the same thing over and over again from other believers.
"I will shake all the nations; and they will come with the wealth of all nations, and I will fill this house with glory,’ says the LORD of armies.” (Haggai 2.7).
"See that you do not refuse him who is speaking. For if they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, much less shall we escape if we reject him who warns from heaven. His voice then shook the earth; but now he has promised, "Yet once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heaven." This phrase, "Yet once more," indicates the removal of what is shaken, as of what has been made, in order that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe; for our God is a consuming fire.” (Hebrews 12:26-29).
Has God been speaking to any of you about this shaking? It is happening. Jesus Christ is the only foundation that we can build our house on. We are receiving a Kingdom that Cannot be shaken.
The Lord is speaking many things in these days but His word "occupy till I come" has been a specially re-occuring thought. His return is near, be about the business of ministering to Him and be a blessing to others.
In Christ,
Amen Ron! Watch, pray, obey the commands of Jesus, and be filled with the Spirit to fulfill the Great Commission.
I do feel like the Lord is purifying His bride. There has been and continues to be a separating of those who are truly after Him and those who are not, but have acted as though they were.
But the message I have heard over and over again is about a great move of the Holy Spirit that is coming through the church. I have heard several man refer to it in this way. It will be what we can only describe as the third great awakening.
As we were in prayer a few months ago, the Lord showed me a large map of the United States, made of something like plastic. Where I live in the Southwest Missouri / Northwest Arkansas region there appeared a little pipe and from that pipe a fountain began to spring forth. But the water did not flow away from the fountain. The fountain assumed a shape as if it had a face and began looking around. Soon, in another part of the U.S., another similar fountain sprang up. When the two fountains saw each other, their water began to flow towards each other. Soon more fountains also did the same and the map began to be covered with water.
The Lord spoke to me that He was raising up regional moves that would connect with one another and that this connection would result in a great revival.
Now, where I am is nothing special. I believe God is moving all over the place. But He has been speaking to men around our area about this move. He spoke to a man who asked to walk and pray around the property our church is on about five years ago. This man said the Lord told him the geographical extent of a move of God in our particular region. About six months ago, another pastor from Oklahoma told me that God spoke to him about a geographical move in this area. He gave me the exact same boundaries that the other man had prophesied six years before. And in a totally unrelated event, a visiting minister from the East Coast, in yet another meeting in a nearby town, related that God told him he was at the northern extremity of a geographical move of God in our region.
It seems wherever I speak with men of God I am hearing virtually the same thing. There is a coming move of the Holy Spirit in the U.S. that can only be described as a third great awakening. For those of you in other countries, I don't think it is limited to the U.S., but that is where I live so that is where God speaks to me about I guess.
I do believe this move will be different than many in the past. I think we would be foolish to try to expect it to look the same or to try to pattern something after any past work. I think the power that the New Testament church walked in is returning to the church along with the separation from the world and the holiness that goes along with it. I think God is purifying His bride, and I think that the bride is going to truly be a glorious church, the body of Christ, filled with His fulness and walking in His power and glory. I think a great harvest of souls is going to be the result.
So, I am excited about living in this time. I honestly believe I will probably see the return of the Lord with my own eyes. But if I don't, I know for sure I am getting ready to see a move of God like I have never experienced in my life.
So I was very curious about what others might be sensing or hearing from the Lord in different parts of this nation, and in different parts of the world.
"There is a coming move of the Holy Spirit in the U.S. that can only be described as a third great awakening."
"...I know for sure I am getting ready to see a move of God like I have never experienced in my life."
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I don't want to rain on your parade, nor do I want to be pessimistic. But I don't believe there's going to be any such move in that direction.
And whoever these men are who are prophesying such things, I would advise you to stop listening to them.
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"So I was very curious about what others might be sensing or hearing from the Lord in different parts of this nation..."
So,there you have it!
You decide!
I believe the very opposite is on the horizon. Either I am not hearing clearly, or they're prophesying a vision out of their own minds which is NOT the LORD's.
December 14 2021 To whom has some much more, much more will be given but to who has not even what little they had will be taken away. God will be giving those that hunger and thirst a new identity mantle that will bring them into a new place of knowing who they are and who I am says the Lord. On the children of the last days I myself, pour out my image upon them and in them, and reveal to them their new linage, they will forget who they were and remember who they are , for these will be my heavenly children who have partaken in my incorruptible seed. This new mantle will not come and go like other mantles and this mantle will be grafted upon my children, and will become who they are, they will no longer see themselves as part of any earthly kingdom or earthly linage, Adam and Eve will be a thing of the past a distant forgotten memory. No longer will they call anyone on Earth their parents for they will know me in a new way and will learn of their new identity in my son, this has been my plan before the foundation of the world to bless this generation the children of the last days with multiple mantels which will never be taken from them but which will Mark them out and the world will know that I the LORD have done this and I will get glory and praise from this, and the gospel of the kingdom will be preached by all the sons and daughters of the kingdom in all their fullness.This will be my great awakening and final renewal they will prepare the way for my son, for the greater works will be done, and many in the world will glorify my name because of this, my angels are preparing multiple mantels now, so be ready and expect my blessing to come upon you and rejoice for the day is at hand. Some will fall but others will rise, into a new place of spiritual awakening, mercy will be my new helmet that they shall wear, and Grace should be upon their foreheads, Pride will be thing of the past, for humility will be who they are, for my spirit will forever transform their soul. For my spirit will finally become one with their soul, and we will become one soul together says the LORD
July 20 2021
A great blessing is coming and it will begin with the remnant, the olive trees will be fed by the hand of God ,he will nurture and tend to them with great care ,the fruit will be full and fat ,from it will he produce the finest of oils that this world has even seen , the oil will heal and soothe the eyes of the blind ,and many will see the light , and become wise carriers and full vessels,with trimmed wicks they will burn with a clean flame ,and shine into the darkests places,shining hope where there there is none , breaking chains ,and feeding the flock with special manner ,manner that god has chosen to give ,and a new type of strength will come from this manner,God has mixed glory with this bread, those that eat it will filled with revelation ,and they will share the wine and rejoice in there god will be there new name ,for there will be no more shame amongst this people of God ,but a spotless bride will they become and they will express holiness throughout this earth ,and the angles will dance ,at the song the bride sings ,the sound will go out to the ends of the earth,and her words to the end of the world says the lord . Brother Gary
The righteous are going to get more righteous and the wicked will get more wicked as none of the wicked will understand. Anti-church sentiment and anti-semitism will grow as the controversy over the Jewish presence in Palestine will continue to fester and grow until it threatens world peace. Guided by prophetic scripture already spoken and the Holy Spirit, the true church should not find itself stumbling along in a confused and defeated manner. It will understand the times, and stripped and sheared of its own presumption to rely on the power of the flesh, it will be a severely tried but OVERCOMING church moving in the power of the Holy Spirit. Multitudes upon multitudes will come into the kingdom even as the last day's Jewish controversy of Zion will engulf the world.
But they OVERCAME.....
Travis, we have been praying for revival and awakening for many years, and we have heard many prophetic voices declaring that it has already begun. The world is getting darker, but we have set our eyes on Jesus, the light of the world.
No revival Has ever come but through prayer and repentance, and we are now seeing a remnant of the Church waking up, and the fire of God beginning to fall. It is happening in our corporate gatherings of prayer and intercession.
Mike: There are pockets around the country of people who are once again running after God with their whole heart. They are dying to self and truly finding their life in Him. They are characterized by His power and holiness manifested through their lives. You are right when you say, " we are now seeing a remnant of the Church waking up, and the fire of God beginning to fall. It is happening in our corporate gatherings of prayer and intercession." We are seeing it where we are at as well. God is shaking everything in us that can be shaking. He is purifying a bride and she is going to be clothed in His glory. It is a time of great separation, it is a time of great awakening, and it is a time of great growth in the body of Christ.
Mike: There are pockets around the country of people who are once again running after God with their whole heart. They are dying to self and truly finding their life in Him. They are characterized by His power and holiness manifested through their lives. You are right when you say, " we are now seeing a remnant of the Church waking up, and the fire of God beginning to fall. It is happening in our corporate gatherings of prayer and intercession." We are seeing it where we are at as well. God is shaking everything in us that can be shaking. He is purifying a bride and she is going to be clothed in His glory. It is a time of great separation, it is a time of great awakening, and it is a time of great growth in the body of Christ.
//There are pockets around the country of people who are once again running after God with their whole heart. They are dying to self and truly finding their life in Him.//
What exactly are they doing that’s different than what they were doing before?
If those prophets are the same who predicted the results of the last election then we see the same outcome again.
Discernment and knowing the Word of God is now more important then ever.
Markus
"Discernment and knowing the Word of God is now more important then ever.”
Brother, the primary way that God speaks to me is through His Word, and we know from scripture that this world with whom Satan is the god of is getting darker, but we also know that Jesus is coming back for a glorious Church. The glory of the Lord will be seen on the end time church, and God’s primary purpose for endtime revival is so that the gospel can be preached to every nation and a great harvest of souls coming into the Kingdom. The way that we will endure what is coming on the earth is to stay full of the Holy Spirit, watching and praying, occupying till Jesus comes.
Quote: I do believe this move will be different than many in the past. I think we would be foolish to try to expect it to look the same or to try to pattern something after any past work. I think the power that the New Testament church walked in is returning to the church along with the separation from the world and the holiness that goes along with it. I think God is purifying His bride, and I think that the bride is going to truly be a glorious church, the body of Christ, filled with His fulness and walking in His power and glory. I think a great harvest of souls is going to be the result.
I write a reply because parts jump out at me - now I can't speak for America and what God plans there - but I can mention what I have heard from heaven and what others have said to confirm it
1. The move of God is different than the past. The people will rise up and do the work of the ministry. (The victorious people)
2. It will be the greatest move of God ever - the anointing is 3 different ones coming together. Love, Courage and Might.
3. Holiness is coming in a depth not known before. All revivals of the past were led by Holy men - this will not be a few Holy men this will be a Holy people.
I could say more but don't have the time to write,
I have left a link to transcript of a message on a vision from 1967 in it you'll see this people mentioned. Now I only read this a year ago - but was well please to read about the people God is going to raise up.
https://ctntp.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/jean-darnells-vision.pdf
One thing more ultimately where we are going is to face the antichrist before Christ returns.
Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name.
I write a reply because parts jump out at me - now I can't speak for America and what God plans there - but I can mention what I have heard from heaven and what others have said to confirm it1. The move of God is different than the past. The people will rise up and do the work of the ministry. (The victorious people)
2. It will be the greatest move of God ever - the anointing is 3 different ones coming together. Love, Courage and Might.
3. Holiness is coming in a depth not known before. All revivals of the past were led by Holy men - this will not be a few Holy men this will be a Holy people.
I could say more but don't have the time to write,
Colin, brother, this is amazing. This is exactly what God has been speaking to us in our little church in Missouri. Almost as if you have been part of the conversations we as leaders have been having. We are sensing the same thing. A body activated and each joint supplying. A body fully alive and walking as His body should walk. A people walking in holiness, not a single person leading a group. A people fully alive and awake. A glorious church.
Thanks for that post brother. Really confirms what we have been hearing the Lord say to us.
Todd: I am not sure I can succinctly answer your question. There is a lot that goes into it. But I will try to give some of what I am seeing.
In the past, especially in the U.S., people came to church to receive a product we called ministry. (I speak in general of the general tone that I have seen in the church) They paid their money to receive this product for them and for their children. Their lives were not significantly different from the world around them. They were nominal believers, but looked nothing like the believer in the church of Acts.
But in these groups that I am speaking of there is an awakening to the original purpose of God for the church, His body. There is a realization that He ordained from before the foundation of the world that we be image bearers of the King of Kings, that we manifest His glory everywhere we go. There is a realization that this means a people filled with the power of His Spirit. They are realizing that every member of the body should be filled with the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit, manifesting Him to the world through everyday ministry.
These people are beginning to run after intimate relationship with Him like never before. They are becoming increasingly single in focus. They are waking up to the fact that they are the body, and as such they are the fullness of Him as He fills up all that is in them with all that is Him.
Leaders in these bodies are realizing that their job is to create men and women of God who surpass themselves in anointing and power. They are seeing their job as equippers of a body who will then go out and do the work of the ministry.
It is really a shift of focus back to the original purpose of God for the church.
Like I said, its hard to give a single thing or even a brief list of what is different. All I know is that it is radically different from anything I have experienced in my life as a believer. The church is beginning to awake and rise up in power.
With this comes a separation from those who name the name but lack the power. Paul spoke of this a little in 1 Cor. 2. There are those who have the words of man's wisdom, and then there are those who through time in God's presence walk in His power and have His heart and His mind. They are marked by His supernatural power in ministry and the gifts of the Spirit are becoming commonplace among these people.
Hope that helps answer your question.
Thanks Travis. Are you part of a large(ish) church or part of a smaller fellowship? When I say church I mean in a building (I realize that is not the def of church) and when I say small fellowship I mean a home church.
We are a body of about 100ish people. Not super big by any means. We do meet in a building primarily. However, from time to time we split the body up into smaller home groups as well. We are not connected to any particular denomination, although most would probably classify us as full gospel / pentecostal. The town the church is in (Purcell, MO) is very small, around 400 or so people. But that is a little bit deceptive as the surrounding communities are fairly populace. More of our people are from the surrounding community than actually live in Purcell.
twayneb,
I was going to respond last week but I didn’t want to be the lone voice of descension but here I am. :) :) :)
When revival comes, it will truly be glorious and I can't wait!
But does no one else hear the cry that comes before revival... "Prepare ye the way of the Lord" and "come out of her my people and be not a partaker of her sins and plagues”?
I don't hear any so-called prophets telling anyone to make straight their crooked paths for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
The state of Christian church in America is in tatters through distractions of their phones, games, internet and TV.
I know revival is coming because I know the Lord is coming again but I pray that revival starts with me and thoroughly cleanses me that I may be a vessel of honor.
That's what I'm hearing from the Spirit this year and going into 2022. You can take it or leave it, for whatever reasons.
Hi Lisa,
I do agree with you that there will be no revival without repentance, and that means that the Church must obey the conditions for revival as stated in 2 Chronicles 7:14. My wife and I are involved with prayer groups and prayer movements, and what is encouraging to me is that now Intercessors for America, and many houses of prayer are standing in the gap confessing our own sins as well as the sins of the nation. All true prophets will echo the cry for repentance.
I would like to hear what Travis thought are concerning repentance
being essential for true revival to take place.
How will you know when enough people have repented? Assuming 2 Chronicles 2:7 applies today (which is a big assumption) what is the tipping point?
In the Hebrides God’s manifest presence felt by the folks on the island is what led to repentance. In other words revival preceded repentance.
I think we should be praying for God to manifest Himself mightily. Repentance will follow.
Politics and Social Movements
The Revival of Feminism
Social movements do not just spring up when leaders announce a set of demands. Preconditions for the revival of feminism lay in the changing social and demographic bases of women’s lives ”” especially increased labor force participation, greater access to higher education, a declining birthrate, and changing patterns of marriage. Probably the most important factor was the dramatic rise in women working in the postwar years, which undercut traditional gender expectations that women’s primary roles were domestic. To be female in America now usually included education and often a career, as well as marriage and possibly single parenthood after a divorce. These changing social realities created a major constituency for the revival of feminism in the 1960s and 1970s.
In the 1980s and 1990s and beyond, feminism continued to evolve in dialogue with what had come before and the pressing new issues of women’s contemporary lives. Now there are at least three generations whose lives have been influenced by feminism since 1960, and each one has much to bring to the table. Encouraging those cross-generational dialogues and continuing to update and adapt the feminist agenda has kept feminism alive, even when the media claims it is dead. And even though there has been a transformational amount of social change in women’s lives since 1960, gender equity and social justice are still far from a reality, which is why feminism is ”” and will remain ”” relevant to twenty-first century life. (excerpt)
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The only "Revival" America has seen of late is the one described above. And until this "revival of feminism" in America is laid to rest there will be no revival of the likes which christians are praying for.
May the LORD GOD HIMSELF speak to His people concerning this!
Quote: But does no one else hear the cry that comes before revival... "Prepare ye the way of the Lord" and "come out of her my people and be not a partaker of her sins and plagues”?
Tonight because of this thread - I was listening to a message from Stephen Kaung ”“ A people prepared for the Lord. (The sermon is on here) What I am trying to do is dig into scripture to find out more about this end time group of people God will raise up.
Basically - Stephen says there was a gap of 400 years and God had not spoken but during this time everything went as normal, the fire on the alter was burning all the time, the offerings were sacrificed daily but there was nothing heard from heaven but silence. God people had assumed an air of religiosity but there were far from God.
There was however a change coming the times (season) of God was changing to an age of grace. So God sent a prophet his name was John the Baptist (I find it interesting that his name means - Jehovah has been gracious; has shown favour). He came preaching repentance and baptizes, preparing the way of the Lord Jesus Christ and his age of Grace.
Now the timings will change - the age of Grace is coming to an end and Jesus is coming back and judgement is coming to this earth and it inhabitants.
We live in a time like when John appeared on the scene - the church today has assumed an air of religiosity, it has a form of Godliness but denies its power. I remember vividly on the night when I started my Christian walk, what I heard from heaven about the church that it was dead - that was many years ago and it has only got darker.
However there is hope because in the middle of death God speaks ”“ Moses my servant is dead now get up - go over this Jordan, you and all this people, into the land that I am giving to them.
God is going to raise up a people - as this age draws to an end, a people will become aware of their condition and will turn to God.
John required repentance and to be baptized - baptism is a burial it’s not enough to repent ”“ we must repent of our sins and die to self. It is interesting that it was the Jordan river that John baptized people into as it very significant place.
How glorious was the rest of Canaan after all the wanderings in the wilderness! And so is it with the Christian who reaches the better promised Canaan of rest, when he comes to leave all his charge with the Lord Jesus-his responsibilities, anxieties, and worry; his only work being to hand the keeping of his soul into the hand of Jesus every day and hour. and the Lord can keep and give the victory over every enemy. ”“ Andrew Murray
As this age comes to a close what’s coming down the track is going to shake not only the earth but the heavens ”“ in this tribulation there will be the unshakeable people ”“ who souls have been surrendered to Jesus ”“ who will over come
'Great and marvelous are Thy works, O Lord God the Almighty; Righteous and true are Thy Ways, Thou king of the nations. Who will not fear, O Lord, and glorify Thy Name? For Thou alone art Holy; for all the nations will come and worship before Thee, for Thy righteous acts have been revealed'.” Rev 15 3-4
I don't hear any so-called prophets telling anyone to make straight their crooked paths for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.The state of Christian church in America is in tatters through distractions of their phones, games, internet and TV.
I know revival is coming because I know the Lord is coming again but I pray that revival starts with me and thoroughly cleanses me that I may be a vessel of honor.
Lisa and Mike:
It would be impossible to separate true awakening and reformation from repentance. One cannot exist without the other. In a true move of God, the Holy Spirit takes care of that. Jesus said, "If any man would come after me, let him first deny himself and then take up his cross and follow me." Paul tells us in Romans 6 that without our own death, we cannot experience His life.
The state of the church today, at least the nominal church, is not good. Typical American Christianity is so far removed from Biblical Christianity. But that is not true of all of the body of Christ. And there still remains a great harvest of men and women to whom our current discussion would, right now, make absolutely no sense. They have absolutely no religious background, or if they do it has only been the hurt they have experienced from people who named the name of Christ but did not walk in His power or His love.
But that is going to change. I am seeing men and women who are being changed from glory to glory into His image by the Spirit of the Lord. They are being empowered to minister as Paul did in 1 Cor. 2, not in the wisdom that man teaches, but in the power of the Spirit.
How will you know when enough people have repented? Assuming 2 Chronicles 2:7 applies today (which is a big assumption) what is the tipping point?In the Hebrides God’s manifest presence felt by the folks on the island is what led to repentance. In other words revival preceded repentance.
I think we should be praying for God to manifest Himself mightily. Repentance will follow.
I agree Todd. The power of God manifested confronts men with a choice. Do I repent and surrender to this one, or do I spurn Him? But what is sure is that when you are confronted with the true power and presence of God, you cannot remain indifferent.
I know I am late to the dance, and I have only posted here a few times. So please forgive me if overstep the protocols on this board . The word I’ve heard lately is obey, step out in faith and carry out the Great Commission in a loving and prayerful way, time is short.
You know it has been many years since a brother or sister who did not know me try to engage me in a conversation to tell me about Jesus. Or even hand me a tract.
I know I am being called to step up my game, obey in faith. Risk feeling embarrassed or foolish. Hit fear head on in faith in Jesus. Fear hits me big when I am on the street, or at work and I engage someone. (I am such a coward) Even so he rewards the obedience and faith and the willingness to step out. He uses it for His glory to grow His body.
I think the loving kindness of God leads people to repentance.
Be bold Saints with great courage with love through Jesus.
Onesiphorus
P.S. please forgive my lacking abilities with the written word.
Most of what I've heard from the Lord for the past two years is that I need to prepare myself and the Bride for His coming by sharing the Scriptures that the Spirit spoke through Jesus, the apostles and prophets on what to look for and what to do as His people in the last days. There was so much spoken on how to "be ready".
I know the predominant viewpoint of those sharing in this thread is that there will be a great revival. If this is God's plan and He has shared that with those who hold this view, then praise God and Amen. What strikes me though is that God isn't speaking, at least in this thread or in many of the prophetic words I've listened to which are numerous, what Jesus and the others spoke to people who were wondering about their future on earth. These prophets and His Son didn't speak about an end times great harvest or final outpouring of His Spirit that was different than what occurred in Acts and that doesn't mean it won't happen, it just means it wasn't clearly said when the Spirit instructed His people about the future and the end.
I am thrilled if the prophetic voices I've heard are right and there is a global harvest never before imagined in size and an outpouring of gifts never before seen. It just isn't the point of view taken by Jesus and the other Scripture writers. What they spoke to continuously, consistently and intensely was "get ready" and be focused in life about the Master's work of Kingdom building..... separating from the world, proclaiming Christ, becoming like Christ and making the Bride beautiful for Christ. "Behold He comes" was the prophetic word that informed and directed the instructions to God's people for each time.
Again, praise God if all that has been uttered about ingatherings and outpourings are true. Praise Him. The Scriptures certainly don't teach against that. But when one asks "what is God speaking in these last days to us" and the focus isn't on the multitudes of Scriptures where He tells the Bride what will happen and what needs to happen, I am a little puzzled.
Shouldn't the focus of the Church be on what has already been spoken and doing that and then we can, in addition, pray for and speak to the abundant fruits of abiding in Jesus. On the altar and obey, and then fire and manifestation. It isn't something new that we should expect until we have sought and done the old. There are a few prophetic voices I've heard that are hearing about a great outpouring and ingathering in these times and they also speak of getting the commands of Jesus right for the end times as a precondition for that. I hope they are right about the former. I know they are right about the latter.
What is the Lord doing today? What is He impressing upon the hearts of many? That is a good question. Meanwhile, a large part of the church firmly believes and is preparing to be suddenly taken out of the world just before things become really bad in a final time of trouble. Just when the world will need them and their message of Christ the most, they are planning on dramatically escaping and being gone.They believe that millions of innocent and ususpecting people will be killed as cars and airplanes without drivers and pilots will crash killing their passengers, but that will be the world's problem as long as they can escape it all. "They should have been ready," the saying goes. Many pastors and teachers today ignore this from the pulpit because it divides churches and believers when the real scriptural truth is sought. Yet they preach real repentance in lieu of meeting the Lord soon, but what they really mean is repent and prepare to be snatched away soon leaving a needful world behind. They remain convinced they are practicing the real meaning of true repentance and adequate preparation for what lies ahead as far as what the Lord is doing is concerned.
Bert, Robert, and David
Thanks for your respective posts here. They were refreshing, edifying, and truthful. They brought joy and encouragement to my spirit.
Thanks for posting Brother about obeying the great Commission
Jesus has not changed His mind about the Great Commission, and Jesus has commanded us to go and make disciples, not pew warmers. We need to be filled with the Holy Spirit so that we will be His witnesses. God is speaking to us to spend time with Him in prayer and in His Word, obey His commandments, walk in love. Seek to know Him with all of our hearts.
If I am the David you are referring to, I believe in a final time of unprecedented trouble that brings this age to a close just prior to the return of Christ (Deut 4:30; Jeremiah 30:7; Daniel 12:1; Matthew 24:21; Rev 7:14). So far as I can determine from scripture, Christians will be the only ones who truly understand what is going on at this time (Daniel 12:10) and will have been divinely prepared and set in place to fulfill a specific role of mass Christ centered evangelism during this time. If some of these perish during this time, they will not lose an iota of their heavenly reward in my opinion supposedly because they were not caught away before. I pray that the Lord is impressing thoughts of these matters on the hearts of Christians and Christian leaders even now.
Thank you for your kind words.
I am thrilled if the prophetic voices I've heard are right and there is a global harvest never before imagined in size and an outpouring of gifts never before seen. It just isn't the point of view taken by Jesus and the other Scripture writers. What they spoke to continuously, consistently and intensely was "get ready" and be focused in life about the Master's work of Kingdom building..... separating from the world, proclaiming Christ, becoming like Christ and making the Bride beautiful for Christ. "Behold He comes" was the prophetic word that informed and directed the instructions to God's people for each time.
I know that there have been some who have said that there will be a global havest of unimaginale size. I have never heard anyone prophesy that there will be an outpouring of gifts never before seen. I do believe the church is being refined and that there is a great separation happening. The bride is being called out, purified, and empowered. Really, one could look at it as a return to original purpose, and a revival of the church that existed in the book of Acts.
Honestly, most Christians would not only not recognize such a church, but would even be suspicious that is might be weird or off. But I believe the church, meaning the true bride, the body of Christ, is returning to Acts and all of the power and presence of God that existed in that church.
When we look at great awakenings of the past, we see the work beginning in the church. The people of God begin repenting and returning to obedience. With this comes presence and power like they have never experienced before. The result of this is a church that stops looking inward and begins to fulfill the reason they exist, being to see the Kingdom of God advanced and men and women surrender to the King and enter the Kingdom.
In that sense, yes, I believe there will be a harvest of souls. Who knows the size of that harvest? But those harvesting will be sold out, dead to self, fully alive in God, filled with the power of the Holy Spirit, walking in that power as in the book of Acts, and transforming the world around them.
...AND...there will be persecution of that bride. She will be hated by the world for the sake Christ.
So we cannot read something into a prophesy by analyzing what is not said. We can only speak to what is said.
Just a few thoughts I had.
Quote: I believe in a final time of unprecedented trouble that brings this age to a close just prior to the return of Christ.
I have been going through a teaching of revelations from from FAI studios. This has made it more clear the great suffering that's coming on this world.
I believe God is sending a move of God and that he will raise up a people during this move that will face the anti-christ.
Rev 15:2 mention those people as does Dan 11:33-36 Dan 12:3-4 Rev 7:14, Rev 12:11.
Quote: I believe in a final time of unprecedented trouble that brings this age to a close just prior to the return of Christ.
I have been going through a teaching of revelations from from FAI studios. This has made it more clear the great suffering that's coming on this world.
I believe God is sending a move of God and that he will raise up a people during this move that will face the anti-christ.
Rev 15:2 mention those people as does Dan 11:33-36 Dan 12:3-4 Rev 7:14, Rev 12:11.
Colin,
I enjoy FAI's Maranatha Global Bible Study on Revelation also!
I heard an elderly Godly woman say a few months ago, "There is a battle coming and I'm afraid the church isn't prepared for it."
God's will, will be done in us and in His people.
God bless,
Lisa
Lysa: I believe you are right.
Quote: "There is a battle coming and I'm afraid the church isn't prepared for it."
Exactly and that's why a move of God will come as it will prepare the people.
On the FAI's Maranatha Global Bible Study
I hear Dalton mention the Chakkiym in reference to a endtime people mentioned in Daniel 11:33 "they that understand"
I guess that what they are trying to do on FAI's Maranatha Global Bible Study - help people understand.
"There is a battle coming and I'm afraid the church isn't prepared for it."
"Exactly and that's why a move of God will come as it will prepare the people."
Without the grace of God given to the Church to overcome in the days ahead, none of us would make it through the trouble that is coming on the earth.
The last days will be the best of times for those that are seeking the Lord with all of their hearts, because they will be full of the Holy Spirit, shining lights in the darkness, walking in the joy and peace of God, and doing the works of Jesus. The sons of God will be manifested on the earth.
However, the culmination of this age will be the worst of times for those that reject Jesus, and for luke warm Christians. No one will make it through what is coming that has their confidence in man's systems and puts their trust in the arm of the flesh. Only those that are rooted and grounded in the Lord Jesus Christ, that are firmly planted on the true foundation, and that are hearing and doing the Word of God will overcome the tribulation. But God is merciful and longsuffering, not willing that any would be lost but that all would come to repentance and the knowledge of the truth. So we must be as the wise virgins that had an ample supply of oil for their lamps and were ready and prepared for the coming of the Lord.
When you say "a battle coming” its not years away, it is months away. We can not look to the systems of this world for our safety or deliverance. Jesus is the only person we have.
With all that said many people are coming to faith right now.
by OnesiphorusWhen you say "a battle coming” its not years away, it is months away. We can not look to the systems of this world for our safety or deliverance. Jesus is the only person we have.
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