John Scotland - Toronto Airport Blessing

Yes it is very obvious and doesn't require much discernemnt to know that this is NOT the true operations of the Spirit of God.

Patrick,
I had the unfortunate occurence to sit thru the sad spectacle of John Scotland, may God have mercy on his soul.

I wrote a long long testimony on this grievous meeting...at one point it got so bad, that I walked out of the house(where the meeting) was held, knelt down in the yard and began to pray.

The brother who "sponsered" this meeting and I later talked and he was pretty baffled at what had just happened...this was a couple years back.

I can't find this testimony as a majority of my earlier posts were rendered "anonymous" when i was booted from the forum.

God bless you is my prayer, ole pony tail, bartle

(later addtion) I just thank God the secular press has turned their eye to this guy, that would make some lovely press for the secular media to seize upon.

John Scotland and Ruben Israel partnering up in ministry...can you imagine that?

Jake_Sit wrote:

There were pharisees in Jesus' time too, God has healed many through the Toronto Airport Church and He has also driven many demons away

To which I respond with:

[b]Mat 7:22-23[/b] [i]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.[/i]

Jake... is it your assumption then that Paul was being pharisaical when he exhorted Timothy with these words?

[b]Rom 16:17[/b] [i]Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences [b]contrary to the doctrine[/b] which ye have learned; and avoid them.[/i]

My friend, we are commanded to mark and avoid those who teach false doctrines. The verse you are quoting in your post is being grossly mishandled. That verse is addressing others [b]motivations[/b] for preaching the gospel... not those who pervert it and decieve others.

The so-called "Toronto Blessing" is not a blessing at all... but a curse. Do you not believe that Satan is a counterfeiter? Do you not believe that Satan can do supernatural signs and wonders? People think that God is the only one who works supernaturally. He is not. Thats is why it is so important we judge "signs and wonders" by the BOOK... and not by experiences.

If we do otherwise we are operating in deceit.

Krispy

Melissa,

you hit the nail right on the head:

he is definitely silly

Thats what i got out of his "talk" also. Now the large crowd in this house meeting, they came from out of town, they were a bunch of self-proclaimed "Holy Ghost drunks", they were into it, laughing falling down, etc.

I was kind of grieved, didnt say a word, just went out onto the front porch to pray. John came out and instead of excoriating him for playing with Holy Things, I asked him where he was from in England, he had "sobered-up" a bit, he told me, and we talked for a second on how I had worked up in northern England, and how much I love the UK, then the Holy Spirit had me say, "lemme give you some sugar", so I hugged him and silently prayed, "Please Lord, open this mans eyes to the delusion he is under"....we broke our embrace and off he went into the night.

I sat there for a bit, grieving and praying, got up went to my car, and there were two attractive middle-aged woman following, totally plastered, you would have thought they had consumed a bottle of booze, laughing, giggling, falling down, etc etc.

I turned and asked 'em, "you all right to drive?" to which they replied, "we'll just sit in our car till this passes".

I nodded and walked away.

I never went to a house meeting there again.

AoG, huh? I was saved and raised up in an AoG church, bless God.

in Jesus' love, bartle

please don't do this.

Only God knows what is the outcome of any "move" or "blessing" of His.

I'm not trying to censor, or shut down any discussion, I'm just imploring you both to just let it go in Jesus' Name for the sake of unity.

bartle, having learned the hard way.

If Todd Bentley is saved, it was not the "Toronto Blessing" that saved him, but Jesus Christ. In spite of how the enemy perverts the "works" of God, His WORD will do a work in the earth as promised.

Thank you for saying this... I didnt want to respond to the question because I felt that it would not serve the cause of unity. But your absolutely right. Bentley was not saved [b]because[/b] of the Toronto "Blessing", but rather [b]in spite[/b] of it.

Tho I havent been to Toronto, I have been to the so-called Brownsville "Revival" back in the day when I bought into all that stuff... and looking back I can assure you that these two "revivals" are filled with mass spiritual deception.

Krispy

and dont forget:

lets pray for ole John Scotland, may the Lord annoint him with a sober Spirit, I believe this in faith in Jesus' Name.

and while we're at it, by golly, I would have loved to pray with that humble one-eyed black preacher by the name of William J. Seymour, pastor at the Azusa Street mission

I've read and studied a lot on the ministry of that humble vessel, sometimes, in the deep of night, I can almost hear his voice buried in those two big boxes he would use as an impromptu pulpit....and then wouldnt ya know it, in 1907 the Fire spread to Pyongyang, and what amazing accounts I've read of the Church in that city, now in the grips of cruel pharaohs.

hear me, one day, God willing, the Gospel of Jesus Christ will AGAIN be preached from the DMZ north to the Yalu and Tumen rivers in North Korea.

I SEE it as clear as day, MILLIONS being saved in North Korea for the Glory of God....humble churches in back road villages, dirt floors, sinners crying out, thirsty for the Living Waters, oh my dear brother, those will be days of GLORY!!!

Sometime, and this was thru the Spirit, my body of flesh will be buried besides the Yalu. Lord God, before that happens, use me, to be the feet of them that bring the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Thats the ministry of reconciliation we bring, THAT is how Jesus has released us from the bonds of death, that we have NO fear of death, what sweet release, as Paul so described.

Lay me besides the Yalu, and just committ me to the Lord with these Words: "well done, thy good and faithful servant"...in Jesus Name I pray....and tell my son what his daddy did for the Name. amen.

sweetly, bartle