Feb. 6, 2006KILGORE JR. COLLEGEToday we preached in the free speech square of Kilgore Jr. College.Starting at 11:00am we lifted up our voices like trumpets and preached against sin. Once a man came out with a homemade sign against us, "THESE MEN AREN'T CHRISTIANS" a nice crowd gathered, ranging from 15 up to 30 people, and we were able to preach to them for 4 hours. We got some great pictures of the preaching and the hecklers which you can view at: Photo Gallery - Kilgore
Open Air: FireStorm Update
Jesse, I truly thank God for you and your obedience to Him despite the raging resistance put up by the enemy. You are in my prayers.
Your prayers are highly appreciated. It's been heavy spiritual warfare.A lot more updates are coming soon. Since this last post we have been to:University of Texas, Tyler TXTexas College, Tyler TXStephen F. Austin University, Nacogdoches TXAngelina College, Lufkin TXThe meetings have been very powerful. Pictures and stories coming soon.
Hey, maybe it's just the first time of me noticing it, but what's with the dress attire? Why the change from your more casual clothes to looking more spiffy? I feel bad now, sometimes I go preach without having shaved in a couple days :)
Dressing nice is good on college campuses because it's professional. Open air preaching is my profession. These students are hearing from professors, and if we go out there with a t-shirt and jeans or shorts, it doesn't demand the amount of respect nice clothing does.It also sets you apart from the students, and thereby brings more attention to yourself and causes more interest in what you are doing.Pictures are now available from:University of Texas, TylerStephen F. AustinAngelina College (Most Pictures Are Here)Just click on the name of the college for pictures. Angelina College is the one we preached on the most and had the best meetings.
Brother Lazarus, Im glad to see that you are going out preaching with another person.Jesus did send them out two by two.A three strand chord is not quickly broken the scripture says.And it's easier to get back up when you have someone else with you.It's probably more effective that way and when one gets tired of preaching the other one can take over.Plus your probably more able to do one on one that way. Why was the police officer writing you up?Did I miss something?
University of Texas, Tyler says that you must get sponsorship from a student organization to preach on their campus. There are already lawsuits in the works by other preachers over that policy that all the UT schools have.Stephen F. Austin said we just needed to go and get a permit and we did, but it looks like the place they said we can preach at it out in the middle of the woods where nobody is. We'll see what it's like on Monday, because that is when the permit is for.
I know from trying to create my own CU in a college. UCCF is the organisation even thou I do not completly agree with them on everything!! I do not know what the american equivilant is. I used to bring my bible into every lecture,the thing that I came agaist was the Equal opputunities policy.If god is with you should have complete freedom on that campus and god is with you. As being a university student myself, I think everyone needs to hear what you have to say.God BlessDominic Shiells
We just found where the main cafe is on the Stephen F. Austin campus. And the main entrance is on a public town road. So if the free speech area turns out to be a dud, which is looks like it's in the middle of no where away from campus, then we will try the public road with the cafe. We will be at SFU until Friday.Jeff has been doing some sketches of the preaching, as well as of some other open air preachers.His sketches are really good. Check them out:Cartoons of Open Air Preachers
Wow,Those cartoons might start our own riots right here in the states! I hope they are self-parodies and not literal portrayals. (edit: deleted inappropriate emoticon and comment.)MC
Those cartoons might start our own riots right here in the states! I hope they are self-parodies and not literal portrayals.I personally think its abit much and preaching is not a profession at all its a calling. Glamourizing these statements that you use in open air like this is personally distastful for me I am not sure about others brother Jesse.
Indeed, I agree with bro. greg. I personally found the characterizations in the cartoons to be grevious to my spirit. They might be clever statements, and surely display intellectual creativity, but they are not anointed and are loathesome to God. I'm glad you find the idea of people perishing funny! You should burn them as soon as possible and remove them from this web site and yours. I also am concerned that this is how somebody would characterize your ministry. If your brother in Christ would do it as such, how much more would the sinner? Hell fire preaching is in much need these days. However, we are not called to be hell fire preachers. We are called to be preachers of the gospel of Jesus Christ.Not one person has ever got saved off hell fire preaching! There is also nobody more the Devil likes than a hell fire preacher! For a hell fire preacher stays away from the gospel.How does one get saved? Romans says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. It does not say if you convince sinners they are in trouble with an angry God and persuade them that they need to stop sinning today that they will be saved. Yes, preaching the law and the judgment to come will surely awaken a soul. But simply being awakened and under conviction from that awakening does not bring about the conversion of the soul.The apostles did not go about the world trying to convince people they were sinners in trouble with an angry God, but they went about trying to persuade the world that Jesus Christ was alive from the grave. This is the heart of the gospel. This is what we are called to preach. If our preaching should be characterized for one thing, it should be that we are preaching that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. If you truly study the book of Acts, you will find this was the climax of all apostolic preaching. It should be of ours as well.
I personally think its abit much and preaching is not a profession at all its a calling.Well, I can see the reasoning behind it and think the matter simply falls into the area of personal conviction. However, I personally think that simply dressing as you normally would is perhaps the best route. The only reason I dress up (when I do) in pulpit ministry is not so much out the idea of "profession," but because I generally risk not offending people who expect somebody that stands behind a pulpit to be dressed up. Though, at my Church most people could care less if I dressed up or not. Though anytime my parents come to hear me speak, they expect to see me in a suit & tie, because afterall, that is their son up in front of everybody.I think it makes the street preacher seem more "real," especially in the context of the local university, since your audience is primarily college students, if you simply dress in plain street clothes. I might could see preaching in a suit and tie if you were standing in the business section in a major city. And always the most important thing when preaching, no matter where you preach, dress comfortably. This is a major reason I don't dress up when doing open air. Suits are far from the most comfortable clothing in the world, even if you take the jacket off. Let alone, when you are standing in the hot sun for a couple hours during more mild seasons. I get sweety enough when preaching in a temp. controlled pulpit, let alone out doors.
Is the aim of preaching to give all the glory to god by dressing up you are taking the aim of your preaching on to you, this is not good. I deal with pride aswell. It is you who said that I do not want to take any glory away from him as in Jesus. I too want to give all the glory to jesus and you have shown in your life that he can do in mightly, if I am misquoting you, be harsh with me and tell me off. Remember your aim, remember your first love. God Bless you and may his face shine on you and may he make you in to more like he is !!I love what you do and that I am behind you!!Dom
I also am concerned that this is how somebody would characterize your ministry. If your brother in Christ would do it as such, how much more would the sinner?I appreciate what Greg, KingJimmy and others are saying here. Giving the benifit of the doubt I assume these skecthes were "therapeutic" or "cathartic" expressions of how we might think people percieve preaching. Certainly if these drawing are done in celebration of an actual style of preaching then it is safe to say there are issues to discuss.I mean, Ruben Israel doesn't really wear a shirt with the phrase "God Abhors You" as an acrostic for "GAY", does he? If these drawing are actual portraits, then I would wonder if your open-air team is suffering from combat fatigue and becoming cynical towards the lost. I remember a pastor friend of mine once who had this condition...he began to enjoy confrontation and contests with people too much.Respectfully, I have observation that extended periods of repentance and law preaching can sometimes harden not only the heart of the unrepentant sinner...but also the heart of the preacher who grows wearly and even disgusted from a lack of progress.Brother Jesse, to paraphrase Jesus; The light of the body is the eye: so if your eye is single upon Jesus, then your whole body is full of generous light; but if your eye is fixated upon evil and sin, you become preoccupied with the darkness and sinfulness of men.Perhaps this is a case of being careful that the light in you isn't becoming darkness. I've always greatly admired your profound commitment dear brother, but be sure to know when you are burning out. Self-diagnoses in this area is trickier then we think...(myself included!)MC
Well I think we are making the cartoons a bigger issue then they really are. Jeff was just doodling around with his pen and I thought his pictures were pretty good.I decided to remove them. Certainly wasn't trying to make the thought of sinners burning in hell funny at all. There is nothing funny about it.
As far as dressing up, lets not get legalistic and say you can wear this but not wear that. Just wear whatever you like to preach in. Certainly clothing is silly to divide over.Regarding the cartoons, Jeff wanted me to add this, "It was just a joke. It certainly wasn't to make fun of the ministry, just the outlandish things that people call out in the ministry." :-) Jeff recently drew a picture of a man with a potty mouth (a mouth that looks like a toilet) and a heart that looks like a sewer leeking every where. It was quite a funny picture, but for the sake of not offending anyone I guess I won't post it.As far as ministry update, we are doing the best we can. We've been having great meetings here on Stephen F. Austin. The free speech area is out of the way of walking traffic, but we've still been able to get crowds of about 30 students, and have preached for hours upon hours to inquiring students. We have found favor with christians on campus, but other Christians have been harshly judging and condeming us. Thursday and Friday we may preach on a campus in Carthage. We need as much prayer support as possible. These meetings have heavy spiritual warfare. Please pray that these students both "repent and believe".Pictures and audio are coming soon.
Jeff wanted me to add this, "It was just a joke. It certainly wasn't to make fun of the ministry, just the outlandish things that people call out in the ministry." I can understand this.Also, creative and artistic people tend to walk a more daring path when it comes to social commentary and satire. (Anyone ever see Martin Luthers artwork...those scathing lampoons of the Pope?)It was quite a funny picture, but for the sake of not offending anyone I guess I won't post it.I think this is wise. In general a younger college audience can accept a coarser humor unsuited for a wider audience. Parents in particular, whose social and moral conscience is extended beyond their own individual tastes, will be more likely to take exeption to risque spoofs.We'll continue to keep your travels and preaching in our prayers Jesse. MC
KingJimmy wrote:Not one person has ever got saved off hell fire preaching! Just curious about what you mean by this. From what you seem to have said, I must say that I completely disagree with you.Some of the most popular messages, tracts, and sermons today revolve around the message that "Jesus has a plan for you" or "Jesus wants you to be happy and comfortable", etc. In a word, it's the humanism that Paris Reidhead so strongly cautioned against.In the case of a "Hellfire Preacher", they say it the way it is. They teach of the iniquity of man. They show a person their sin and then warn of the deserved punishment. Without these steps, there is no repentance, and without repentance, I assure you that there is no real faith.Now, the people that much of Acts talk about (Pentecost, etc.) are the Hebrews- they knew the Law, knew their iniquity, knew the prophesies. They had an established basis to have faith in Christ. But look at present day America. Morals have become a relative thing. God's Law has become an optional belief. Because of this, this is where we must start- at the beginning. And as hard as it is, the offense of the Gospel is a harsh lesson that takes a person to repentance.Maybe I misread what you wrote, but so many "christians" today are merely innoculated lukewarm who find comfort in the stories they're told bucause they know nothing of their nature, or the truth that is the building block of why Jesus had to come and die in the first place.
Jeff recently drew a picture of a man with a potty mouth (a mouth that looks like a toilet) and a heart that looks like a sewer leeking every where. It was quite a funny picture, but for the sake of not offending anyone I guess I won't post it.I just think as others agree that using these type of terms about unbelievers accomplishs nothing and really isn't that funny. It is good to be confident about these things and the calling you guys have but humbleness and showing mercy to people is very important. The one sign has alot of ridicilous words and even though it can gather a CROWD really its going to far. Just rely on God to gather crowds and preach the gospel with purity it will bear better fruit.
It was quite a funny picture,The thing is..... as long as you open-air preachers would be entertained by these cartoons if you were in the crowd, and you think it would make you more likely to want to become a Christian...... and as long as you remember it could be any one of you with a 'potty mouth' - and you still think it's funny ..... or should I have said 'one of' US......?..... I hope you wouldn't......Personally, if I was in the crowd, I'd rather hear God's word read out. That is quite incisive enough - 'their mouth is an open sepulcre....' and so on - and it carries ALL the authority of God - and it doesn't compromise your testimony one whit ....
I think you perhaps misunderstood me to a small measure, so let me attempt to clarify further. As I said previously, I am by no means denying that we must preach about the Law of God and the judgment to come. Scripture makes plain, the Law is our school-master that teaches us of our need for salvation, to lead us to Christ. It does this by pointing out our sins, and how they have alienated us from God, and how we are in need of mercy to receive pardon for our transgressions. Otherwise, the Judge of all the Earth shall do what is right, and punish us forever in the fire that has no end. We are in much need of more of this type of preaching today, especially in an age where every man does what is right in his own eyes, and many think they are simply "good people."However, simply preaching such will not get one person saved. It might bring about some sense of conviction and contrition, but it alone will never save one soul from hell. I believe this is where many street preachers, especially ones that follow closely to Ray Comfort's methods, or strongly to Reidhead's "Ten Shekels and a Shirt," etc., enter into error.While I fully believe in preaching about sin and hell, and consider myself to some extent to be a "hell fire preacher," and if you listen to any of my street sermons, you will find I spend no small amount of time on sin, righteousness, and the judgment to come.However, such is not to be the thrust of our preaching. Such will never get one person saved! It never has, and never will! How does one get saved? By simply repenting of their sins? No.While repentance does indeed move one to salvation as the Scriptures plainly teach, it is not merely repenting of sins that saves one.Rather, Romans says "if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved." You see, saving faith while it includes repentance, must not be mere repentance alone. Our salvation depends not simply on repentance, but our belief that Jesus is indeed Lord, and that God raised Him from the dead.Outside of this, one cannot be saved. And it is my greatest fear that many street preachers who are out there preaching a hard message of repentance are not actually preaching at all. For unless our preaching is Christ centered, and unless we introduce people to the person of Jesus Christ, then we are not truly preaching. For the gospel is Christ centered, not sinner centered.Our repentance must be grounded in something. What will geniunely bring about true repentance, and not just being sad over ones sins, or fearful of eternal damnation, is to have one's faith grounded in the faith of Christ. Notice John the Baptists message, and the message of Christ: "Repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand!"They didn't simply tell people to repent because they were sinners who were in trouble with an angry God. They told them to repent, for the kingdom of Heaven was at hand. And they then went about demonstrating the power of that kingdom. Repentance was grounded upon the fact that the kingdom of God that was prophesied by the prophet Daniel, had come. What drove people to their knees was a demonstration of that kingdom. In otherwords, when they saw the power of that kingdom being manifest in their midst through the power of God, they were left with the undeniable sense that this message was true. Gripped with the truth that the kingdom of God had indeed come, scores of people came to saving faith, as they would then repent of their sins.This pattern is seen in the book of Acts as well. Lot's of hell fire type messages seen in the book of Acts. But notice the very first message which was preached by the apostle Peter, which I thinks serves as a great model. What is it that ultimately drove the Jews to their knees? The center of Peter's sermon on the day of Pentecost was that the Jews had murdered God's Messiah, whom God raised from the dead. They thought they could be rid of this Christ by nailing Him to a tree, but God showed they could do no such thing, and instead raised Him from the grave. "This Christ, whom you murdered, God raised from the dead!" was what Peter preached. It'd make me tremble to, no wonder thousands converted that day.And so it goes on throughout the book of Acts, that what the apostles got in trouble for the most was not calling people to repent, and pointing out their sins, but rather, it was that they asserted with great confidence and demonstrated to the world, that Jesus Christ was indeed alive. Thus, the Jews locked the apostles up for healing people, because healing people demonstrated that the apostles were using the same power that Christ had, which only further proved this Christ whom they murdered, was alive.Same goes for Paul when preaching to the Gentiles. When standing before King Agrippa and the charges were laid out before him by Festus, he summarized Paul's trouble to center around "a dead man, who Paul asserted to be alive."Based on this, it is my conviction that as preachers, especially those who preach on the street, the center of our message should not be about repentance and sin. Though we should preach on those things, our message should ultimately be Christ centered, and focus on His life, death, and resurrection. Unless it is, then we cannot be said to have truly preached the gospel of Jesus Christ. For we are comissioned by God not to preach repentance or about hell, but we are comissioned by God to preach THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. Once people believe that Jesus is alive from the grave, how can they but repent? How can any of our lives ever be the same, once we have a revelation of this truth? How can I continue in sin, knowing that God raised His Son from the grave?Earlier last year I preached a message at my Church called "Jesus is Alive!" I'd encourage everybody here, especially my street preaching brethren, to listen carefully to this message. This message is my heart beat: http://www.christiansteps.com/sermons/jesus_is_alive.mp3Quote:KingJimmy wrote:Not one person has ever got saved off hell fire preaching!Just curious about what you mean by this. From what you seem to have said, I must say that I completely disagree with you.
Just to clarify, the cartoons were never going to be used in the open-air. They were just for the team, and I thought I'd share them with you guys. They were private drawings, never to be used in a public open air.
Alright KingJimmy, I see what you're saying.It's a challenging thing to make sure the Gospel you spread is the true and full Gospel, especially when looking at so many "halfway Gospels" that are so prevalent today.I don't pretend to be an experienced street preacher, but little by little I'm learning. And what you just said is something that I agree with wholeheartedly. The main difference that you pointed out seems to be the difference between ideas such as the "angry God whom "mother mary" must calm down" in Catholicism, versus the other extreme of "Jesus loves you and has a plan for your life". So, to stand corrected in what I had misunderstood, I totally agree with you.
Forgive me ,Dom if I said anything wrongI want you to excel beyond I want you to do all that god has for you know that I love you and behind you , whatever you do!! Dom
