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warriorofgod

will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest. HistoryCreationConscienceProphesy1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.Here are a few: 1. Where did the space for the universe come from? 2. Where did matter come from? 3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.) 11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor? 12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true? 13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live? 14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve? 15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it? 3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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sermonindex

I know three scientists with IQs way out there somewhere. They believe in God and not evolution, but to take that next step to believe the Salvation message, is not happening ... got any suggestions ?

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warriorofgod

have you tried reasoning with them by their conscience?

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saltlicker20

warriorofgod wrote:have you tried reasoning with them by their conscience?I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you are one of these three things if not all three:1) Viewer of "Way of the Master"2) Student of the School of Biblical Evangelism3) Listener of Ray Comfort's sermon, "Hell's Best Kept SecretAm I right??In His,DOI Pet 4:2

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warriorofgod

1 and 3 are correct. But that is not why i asked him that question.

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sermonindex

I don't know about any "methods" from any of the 3.But, I'd like you to expound on this.How can I bring up their "conscience" without saying "you're a sinner" ?These guys are real sensitive to that word, because they see the hell fire and brimstone stuff as well, what 'some' have made it.I could probably reach them with LOVE, but could you combine your suggestion and give me a something of what you yourself would "say" to them, knowing more about them now ?Thank you brother ... I really do appreciate you giving this your time.Annie

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Graftedbranc

1. Where did the space for the universe come from?2. Where did matter come from?3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?The problem with this argument is that the evolutionist can reply with one question. Where did God come from ?And then you must apply to God all the arguments which he applies to creation. That is he says, it always was. etc.It is difficult to use logic to prove God. God is best revealed by Himself. The best arguement for a scientist or evolutionists is, "If there is a God and he is willing to reveal Himiself to you, would you want it? Then you get down to the real issue. The fact is He does not want to believe in God.And if they say they would, then encourage them to call on the Lord and ask Him to reveal Himself and show him if the Bible is true.Then the Spirit has ground to work in him.The real issue with unbelief is not an inability to believe becasue of lack of evidence, but rather an unwillingness to believe because of the implications.He hides behind his arguments. Yes, we can demolish some of them and that may open him up. But in the end it comes down to God's Self revealtion and the Spirit's work.The person who can best benifit from these points is one whom the Spirit is working on and who genuinly has a desire to know God and belive in God, but his concepts keep him from being able to lay hold on God.Graftedbranch

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warriorofgod

Graftedb, In the case if they ask where did God come from, then you can ask why is it easier to believe that there was always a piece matter in space the size of a period ready to explode, then a God who was always there who created you to live with him forever? If you get answer, then you have to use the method of conscience bcuz like you said, they just love their sin. (for a lack of better words) Now to me again. If you want to talk to them about their conscience it is basically the same method that Wayofthemaster.com teaches. You simply asked if they ever lied? if they say yes, then you ask what does that make them? They should say a liar. Most people try to lighten the word by saying normal, storyteller, or even sinner. but just tell them that i lied what would you call me? they usually respond with the right answer. Then ask themn if they ever stole anything? if they say yes, then ask them what does that make them? If they admit it, they will say a thief. If they dont admiti it, you can ask them if they ever hated someone before, If they say yes then you can tell them that did you know that when you do that the bible says you commit murder in your heart. Ask them if they ever lusted after someone. If they say yes then tell them did you know that jesus says that anytime you do that you commit adultery in thier heart? After that is all said and done them you can tell them by their OWN CONFESSION that they are lying theiving, adulterous, murderers at heART. ( or whatever crime fits the bill) If you want more on this all you have to do is go to Way of the master.com or Go to Livingwaters.com and listen to "hell's best kept secret". This teaching shows you how you can bring the knowledge of sin and show them there need for a savior. or if you want After friday you'd have to call long distance to london 011-44-7786-331558. Let me know whats up. I can probably explain a little better over the phone since i don't have very good typing ability.

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PreachParsly

I would suggest not placing your phone number on here. There are many utilities on the Internet that if you have a phone number you can find an address. Anyone with a computer on the Internet has access to this forum.

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warriorofgod

Thanx parsly

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sermonindex

You guys are all wrong. Here's where we came from: Bub http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0836220625/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-4190187-0354466#reader-link :-P

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warriorofgod

LOL Thanks for the laugh.

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ginnyrose

Annie,Having ministered to females at a CPC for 15 years, I can tell you that teaching 'love' does not cut it, either...not in the south it doesn't. They have heard it all ther lives and think they are not so bad that God would condemn them to hell because they perceive themselves as basically good people and surely God would NOT send them to hell! Or, if they do know they are going - and they have told me so - they believe they will have lots of friends there and they will have company..During this time, the Holy Spirit impressed on my mind how I needed to emphasize the Holiness of God to my clients. I did and, lady, it was like I was plowing new ground! (And to you city slickers this means the ground was hard and difficult to plow decent!) These people barely understood what this meant! All they have heard is how loving God is...his Holiness was not taught! But my job was to be obedient and let the HS take it from there. My point: to emphasize the love of God apart from his Holiness and wrath is not teaching the complete Gospel message of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Love without wrath is meaningless. ginnyrose

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warriorofgod

is anyone edified about what i posted. I'm not trying to lift myself up. I just dont want this thread to go on a rabbit trail. I hope that you all will benefit from it. Because Satan has lied to people thinking you can't prove the existance of God.

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ginnyrose

Warrior,I do not want to blow your bubble, but rabbit trails are common on this site...happens in ordinary conversations, too. What you can do to keep the conversations on tract is to comeback often with questions or comments.Now to answer your question about whether your post was edifying? Yes, to me it is. I would like to copy/paste some it for future reference. OK? Is that good enough? I thank you for posting. This was very interesting and God bless you.ginnyrose

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Hey Ginnyrose, Sis, I sure do know what you're saying about "down south here".Being from up north and then moving to the south, all the girls I worked with were "saved" ... :-? .I told on here one time, how they all went "Clubing" on Sat. nites and Church the next day with their fatherless babies.I used to talk to them and ask, "Well, what does your Pastor say about all'a this ?" and they said, "He says he was young once too."No, I completely agree with you on that part.I loved them and they knew it, but they also knew plainly what I felt about their lifestyle.My first post above my Love post that you probably read, was about these three men scientists I know, ages about 55 to 66 years old.I know them very well, so I know what closes their ears in a heart beat, yet I also know they have tender hearts and all 3 have much compassion, despite their line of work.So, I keep on keeping on, over the last 28 years or so to witness to them, though I'm not in contact with them too often, but PRAYING that God would send folks on their own IQ and career level to speak the Born-Again message to them. It's a little hard to go into detail on this one, but I only mentioned love, because I wrote a 4 page Christmas story for them and mailed it out and I believe the Love on the Cross was the first time I've seen a response coming out of them in all of these years. I believe the Lord gave me or wrote that Christmas story, Praise His Name, and it was just for them and my father.So, if you could just remember to pray for those 4 men, I'd sure appreciate it with all of my heart. They're all sweeties, but their brains are just too big :-? . And that is as big of a problem as trying to get the camel through the eye of the needle with a rich man. I had prayed hard last year and broke down weeping bad over them last fall and then all of a sudden, this Christmas story came to me and other Christians read it that know me said they know I didn't write it :-D ... so that was an answer to the sowing in tears and may be the "seed".Praying now for others to come behind it and water it.Thanks sister and warrior for trying to help me.His Love.Annie

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ginnyrose

Annie,

They're all sweeties, but their brains are just too big :-? . And that is as big of a problem as trying to get the camel through the eye of the needle with a rich man. This reminds me what Jerry Clower used to say: "they have been educated beyond their intelligence!" I am glad the LORD put it on your heart to pray for these men...Unchristian people who are highly educated have an attitude called arrogance. I know of a well educated man with degrees from Harvard, Princeton, et al who used to say how he was amazed that a person with an eighth grade education who has good comprehension skills will have the same insights to the scriptures as he does with all HIS education! About those girls...I believe this is the downside of Calvinism which teaches once saved always saved and what sins you committed have been forgiven (true if they repented) as well as the future ones not yet committed. I am of the opinion the reason one sees so much immorality in the Bible belt is simply because of this doctrine. People are so religious, but the motivation to repent is missing even though they know what they are doing is wrong but believe God will make an exception in their case! The test of Biblical doctrine is how it works out in shoe leather. If it does not aide in producing holiness, one better take another look at it and see where it is flawed. Now did I not open another can of worms here? Depending who reads it, I did!I am very interested in reading that piece you wrote: sounds very edifying. Mind emailing it to me? or posting it here? If you do please let me know where I can find it.Blessings,ginnyrose

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sermonindex

Very very true Ginnyrose.I think we call it "Gospel Hardened" ... when folks have heard it all of their lives and grew up down here, after a while ... it loses it's convicting affect.I've been concerned that we don't do that with 'everything or anything' we hear A LOT of.After a while, it's just like water on a ducks back ... we get to where we say, "Oh yeah, I can tell you all about 'commitment' or whatever" and we can talk about just about anything anymore, but to live it out in this country isn't too manifest as yet.Yes, we moved down here, because the North was so spiritually dead, that everyone we left there, had to start house Churches just to keep in fellowship and keep the fire burning. Then got here and saw the fruits of OSAS big time, as you've said.Easy Believism is maybe also a better way to say it, because Murray, Spurgeon and many, were of Calvin's persuasion but preached Holiness.And that's the other thing you see down here ... is the complete opposite side of the scale, where these "Holiness" churches are so far gone the other way, they make some of us into "Jezebels" for wearing slacks to work or make-up.I had one of them "gray woman" I call them, stare me right in the eyes like she hated me, because I had earrings and some make-up on.My hair's long enough and I had a skirt on, but Oooooo, I'm going to hell because of my make up and earrings.I call them the "gray woman" because we visited a Church who believes that way, and they all had long gray ponytails and their skin color looked gray, even though they weren't old. They had "oppression" written on their faces, if you know what I'm trying to say. No wonder they're confused down here. Two extremes and all under the banner of "the belt buckle of the bible belt".Very sad.Anyhow, do you have windows xp ?I have the story in Word Works format, but if you don't have that, I can stick in onto an email easy enough and email it that way.God Bless you Ginnyrose and we'll keep praying for our beautiful south and it's 50,000,000,000 Churches. Amen and Thank you.Love.Annie

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ginnyrose

Annie, Please check your (EDIT) account box...I left my email addy there. AND I forgot to tell you I do have Windows XP.Thanks!ginnyrose

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warriorofgod

This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest. HistoryCreationConscienceProphesy1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.Here are a few: 1. Where did the space for the universe come from? 2. Where did matter come from? 3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.) 11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor? 12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true? 13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live? 14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve? 15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it? 3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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jacobswell

Any chance you could mail me that story, i have an atheastic aunt & unckle who too are intelectuals with brains too big, always open to new ways to break throughJ

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warriorofgod

if you live in northeast england you can give me a call. I will be there in lakeneheath village this saturday after 200pm, hopefully. If my plane arrives on time. or just email me with your questions because i dont understand your question about the story.

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warriorofgod

IM HERE IN ENGLAND SO CALL ONE CALL ALL. jUST KIDDING!

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warriorofgod

I will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest. HistoryCreationConscienceProphesy1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.Here are a few: 1. Where did the space for the universe come from? 2. Where did matter come from? 3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.) 11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor? 12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true? 13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live? 14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve? 15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it? 3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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Combat_Chuck

Thank You Josh Mcdowell, Sort Of

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warriorofgod

I thank you for that link but my intent is to show people that their faith is not blind and that they can defend it many different ways. Still, the link was very fruitful. We need more brokeness for sinners than we do answers for them. I appreciate the link.

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tacklebox

Love - true love can produce many reactions.For instance, I really love my wife and kids. That leads me to do kind things for them. But if I come home one day and there is some other guy sitting my kids on his lap and kissing on my wife, the reaction I will have is anger.There is this idea among some Christians that all anger is bad and ungodly, but the Bible clearly teaches that there are forms of anger that even our perfect, holy God exhibits. His anger is justified and righteous because He is loving. It isn't His love alone that drives Him to execute justice - it's His holiness - that part of Him that will not tolerate sin, His complete separation from it.The one attribute of God that the seraphim sing about around His throne, according to Isaiah 6, is God's holiness, yet there are many Christians who only share God's love with people and make no mention of God's holiness. They don't lift up God and His standards, and therefore the lost think they are ok with Him.I like using this analogy:You like cake, right? What if I presented you with a beautiful cake that I made with these ingredients:floureggssugarbutterraw sewagea couple of hairballs my cat coughed upsweatpig mucusNow, the cake looks like any ole cake - the icing does a great job of making it look like other cakes, but would you eat a slice?Of course not! I may have had all the ingredients necessary to make a cake in my recipe, but it was those added ingredients that will prevent you from ever eating the cake.So it is with God. We, being created in His image, have some form of godliness, and we all have the potential in us (the necessary ingredients) to appear righteous before God because we cover ourselves with our self-righteousness (the icing), but God sees us the way you see that cake when you know its inner secrets, and just as you wouldn't ever eat of that cake, God will not allow sin to enter His Kingdom.Talk to these guys about the holiness of God. Ask them what standard God will use to determine who gets to go to heaven and who is rejected.Study the way Jesus dealt with a very intellegent (and self-righteous) ruler of his day in Mark 10:17-27.If this is the way Jesus dealt with self-righteousness, then shouldn't we?"It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master." -Matthew 10:25For more information on that, go here:http://www.livingwaters.com/learn/hellsbestkeptsecret.htm

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warriorofgod

will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest. HistoryCreationConscienceProphesy1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.Here are a few: 1. Where did the space for the universe come from? 2. Where did matter come from? 3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.) 11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor? 12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true? 13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live? 14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve? 15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it? 3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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MrBillPro

You know I am on another forum that has had an on going thread about evolution and creation for a while now and just about all the info published here has been used to defend creation, but when asked these questions the evolutionists always come back with the big bang caused everything to start into motion and is totally responsible for all up to today, and I guess if that's what they want to believe that is their business, but I have found that these folks that believe in evolution and some hard core believers and it's really tough to get through.

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warriorofgod

If evolutionists want to look at the evidence and say they are not valid, then they are holding on to religion. At that point we should live out or lives and do good works to them to show them that it is a little deeper than trying to prove our point. We must show them that we love them, or else we just become analysts instead of evangelists. Through prayer are those battles fought and when God gives another opportunity we take it.

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warriorofgod

will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest. HistoryCreationConscienceProphesy1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.Here are a few: 1. Where did the space for the universe come from? 2. Where did matter come from? 3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.) 11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor? 12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true? 13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live? 14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve? 15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it? 3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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warriorofgod

will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.

This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest.

History
Creation
Conscience
Prophesy

1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.

2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.
Here are a few:
1. Where did the space for the universe come from?

2. Where did matter come from?

3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?

13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?

14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it?

3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.

4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.

I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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warriorofgod

will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.

This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest.

History
Creation
Conscience
Prophesy

1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.

2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.
Here are a few:
1. Where did the space for the universe come from?

2. Where did matter come from?

3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?

13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?

14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it?

3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.

4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.

I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

W
warriorofgod

I will be adding more in the future as the Lord provides. So please stay posted. There was also a change in the latter post about the prophesy part. Please take note.

This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest.

History
Creation
Conscience
Prophesy

1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.

2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.
Here are a few:
1. Where did the space for the universe come from?

2. Where did matter come from?

3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?

13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?

14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it?

3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.

4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.

I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

W
warriorofgod

This is a good evangelical tool that God gave me one day. I call it the Hiccup because its hard to digest.

History
Creation
Conscience
Prophesy

1. History-- this step is most appealing to our histroy and skeptical friends. You can go to Christiananswers.net and find any archeological or historical story which proves the authenticity of the bible. I personally picked the site of Sodom and Gammorah.

2. Creation- You can debate on this subject all day. You can go to the site above or DrDino.com or answersingenesis.org to find some very good resources. I use the method that's in the evidence bible to ask evolutionists'.
Here are a few:
1. Where did the space for the universe come from?

2. Where did matter come from?

3. Where did the laws of the universe comefrom (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?

13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?

14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it?

3. Conscience- You can you use the wayofthemaster method or you can use what God gave me in relation to it. All you have to do is ask them if lying is wrong? If they have a conscience they'll say yes. Sometimes you have to get answers out of them but the important thing is to show them that by they're conscience, they say that these things are wrong not the bible. Then ask them is stealing is wrong? how about rape? murder? adultery? If they say yes, then you tell them that by their conscience they say these things are wrong. They will nod in agreement. Then you point out that isn't it funny that your concscience is in direct alignment with the Ten Commandments, the things God says are wrong! Tell them that this is because the bible says we were created in his image. We are moral, God is Moral. We expect justice, God will get Justice. This is an awesome method that God has shown me and too often i saw the peoples eyes light with the revelation of GOD. This is by far my most favorite method of the hiccup process.

4. Prophecy- this is the easiest and most effective step to remember. 3800+ prophecies in the bible. Every one has been fufilled to date. 350+ prophecies talk about Jesus's birht, life, death, and resurrection way before he was born. Every one of them was fufilled. No sacred writing in the world has come close to that amount of accuracy. Not the KORAN, not the buddist bible, not any occult in the world. God gave prophecy to prove his purpose! Mathmaticians say to get 8 prophecies right would be 1 IN 100,000,000,000,000,000. THIS IS A REAL NUMBER! It's pronounced one hundred million billion. Jesus fulfilled 350+,and there are prophecies being fulfilled to this day. Glory to God.

I can explain more to this method but i guess i would need some questions Plus i'm not very good at typing out my thoughts. and if you want you can add a 5th proof. A personal relationship with the God who created heaven and Earth. To get to know God yourself is an irreplaceable truth! any questions just write me. at warriorofgod82@yahoo.com

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