“… In our society we are ‘overexposed’ to sex, so we can rationalize our thinking that it isn’t in the category as ‘murder, rape, drug-usage’, or other sins we KNOW are unacceptable, however, our Guide is the Word of God – not man’s thinking – that is how God got through to me – when I read the definition of these sins:
(1) Uncleanness: This fleshly sin includes a wide range of moral sins. Evil or impure thoughts, so-called dirty stories, lustful desires, desires to read pornography or to see morally unclean pictures or movies would certainly be included. Uncleanness springs from the fleshly desire to gratify (the) sensual appetite through thoughts and words in conflict with God’s Holy nature and divine plan;
(2) Lasciviousness: This sin represents the practice of stirring up lustful desires which cannot be satisfied within the limits of God’s approval. One may be lascivious about his dress, his speech, his laughter, his smile, his eyes, his physical gestures, his modesty, and so forth. This sin springs from the fleshly desire to attract attention to one’s self in a manner that flaunts God’s standards of moral purity. {”The Adversary” p.p.29-30 – Mark Bubeck Moody Press,1975}
These and other sins of the flesh are in Galatians 5:19-21 – but what precedes them is very important: ‘I say then: walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; so that you do not do the things that you wish (Gal 5:16-17).’ Am I saying that I went on to ‘sinless perfection’ – Absolutely Not!!!! I am not saying I ‘never sinned again’ in this area, but the Power of the Word of God to change lives, and being sensitive to the Holy Spirit brings Victory. As the Lord showed me recently in my ‘Quiet Time’ as I read of the Temptation of Christ again in Luke – the difference between… Adam and [Jesus] was that Jesus quoted the Word of God to the devil with every temptation – Adam could have done the same since he had the Word of God directly FROM God, but listened to the enemy MISquote God’s Word instead and gave in to the temptation! Thank you for sharing your struggle… Many will be praying for you now – who would never have know if you had not shared! So, don’t be concerned about the ‘Pharisees’ and ‘Legalists’ – they end up miserable rejecting everyone!!!”
Message #2:
“This is a very difficult topic. On the one hand, we sometimes feel that we would rather not know about someone’s very personal struggles, and in certain situations that is more appropriate. On the other hand, when we are in a dialogue with a brother and he feels called to share with us, there is generally a good reason and we have a duty to thoughtfully listen and respond if we can. The key as you obviously know, is to remember at all times to detest the sin but love the sinner. Like ‘loving your enemy’ and putting old ways behind us, this is much easier said than done. For some reason, we tend to feel superior to someone who has a tendency toward sexual sin or substance abuse. We may find that it makes the rest of us feel ‘stronger’, and the other person ‘weaker’, I don’t know.
I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but later in life, through my wife, converted to a Protestant faith and began to read the Bible personally for the first time. It was a revelation, especially the comfort that Christ died so that we could be saved once and for all. Once accepted in truth, He does not withdraw his gift.
Man’s being sinful by nature and totally incapable of living up to the standard required to earn our own way into heaven is the whole reason for Christ’s coming. Having sacrificed himself for us, I can’t believe that He would then leave us to our own powers to finish the journey. If that were possible, the law of the Israelites would have gotten them salvation. The Bible tells us, though, that the law didn’t save them, it condemned them. Also, Christ died for future sins as well (since at that time my sins all lay in the future, He must have).
You are of course right and it’s sad that these people are missing out on a measure of peace if they are relying on their track record since conversion to get them into Heaven. If they are honest with themselves they must be condemned every day, or else they are completely unlike anyone I have ever known.”
Note from Chris now: The previous message mentions the “once saved, always saved” principle. Just for clarification, I need to make clear exactly what I was talking about in my previous messages. My intent was not to debate the merits of the “once saved, always saved” principle. All I was trying to do was point out that if a Christian sins and is sincere in asking for forgiveness, then I don’t care if you’ve come to God a million times before, He will forgive you and your eternal home is not in question. That’s what grace is about. But the issue here is of whether one who has accepted Jesus can lose salvation.
You guys, for a long time, I saw my sin of looking at pornography, as “the devil made me do it” type of a thing. Several years ago, that changed when one day I realized that I was making a conscious choice to deny Christ and follow satan. And once I realized that, my faith took a major nose dive and I found myself frequently unable to face God. But I was sincerely repentent in my heart. Sometimes I didn’t bring that to God because I wasn’t sure myself whether God would really forgive me, a lowly sinner, again, and I was afraid to face Him. Surely there must have been a limit, I thought, to how many times He would forgive me. But looking back, even during those darker times, I have no doubt now that my salvation was secure. Why? Because I was truly repentent after sinning. I still believed in Jesus and tried to follow Him. I turned my back on God and instead gave into the flesh temporarily, but I came back and sought forgiveness (even if I didn’t seek it as often as I should have). God knew my heart and He knew my sincerity. My salvation was secure.
Now talking theoretically here, if it is possible (and I have SERIOUS reservations about this) to willingly turn your back on God and never come back and you had no desire for forgiveness, then I suppose you could lose salvation. But I’ll tell you what: I’ve never seen this happen and I have serious doubts that one who knows the TRUTH and has accepted that TRUTH and has truly let Jesus into their heart can then turn around and deny that truth without any hint of sorrow and remorse. I very highly doubt it can be done.
And now, turning a corner, I want to just give you all a whole bunch of Bible verses on the area of sexual purity as well as grace: 1 Corinthians 6:13; 1 Corinthians 6:18-20; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; 1 Corinthians 10:13; 1 Corinthians 6:15; Hebrews 2:18; Acts 10:43; Romans 6:1-14; Matthew 1:21; Acts 13:28; 1 John 3:5; 1 John 2:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 Timothy 1:15; Ephesians 1:7; Galatians 1:4; Hebrews 9:28; Hebrews 10:14
And finally, turning yet another corner, I’ve got a few more links for you on the subject of sexual sin:
http://www.christiananswers.net/sex/ (Q&A)
http://www.geocities.com/~newlifemn/ (Support for Men and Women)
http://www.afafilter.com/ (Server-based filter)
http://www.redrival.com/nlpartners/index.htm (Support for Wives)
http://www.estheronline.org/main.htm (Support for Wives)
http://www.imaginethatministries.org/bookstore.html (Books that can be ordered)
http://members.aol.com/hawebpage/ (Homosexuals Anonymous)
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*Thought for Today*
“Sin is not something that is really good that God for some reason has something against. Sin is toxic… I have never had anyone – anyone – say to me, ‘After I committed the sin, I was really glad about it.’ We dwell in the ruins of a disordered world, one in which sin has many defenders but no defense. Sin is destructive by it’s very nature, but it must mask itself in the beginning in order to lure us until we are caught by the bait of present or promised pleasures.” – James Bryan Smith
*The Lift*
LEARNING ABOUT LOVE, MARRIAGE, AND SEX (By Luis Palau)
I was only twelve, but I felt like a man. School was out for the summer, and I was helping with the family business. The work was a refreshing break from my just-completed exams.
This particular day I was helping deliver a load of cement bags. The driver, a twenty-year-old laborer, seemed friendly and boosted my ego as we worked together.
“Luis,” he said as we pulled over to the side of the road, “since you are becoming a young man now and you have no father, you need someone to talk to you about the facts of life.”
My heart began to pound. I was excited to think I might get some straight answers from someone who really knew the score.
But instead of telling me anything, the truck driver simply opened a magazine and turned the pages while I stared in unbelief at the pictures of naked men and women. I was shocked and disgusted.
Later, I could not push the images from my mind. I felt sinful, degraded, horrible, guilty. Impure thoughts invaded my mind. I had been curious before, but had always resisted the temptation to look at such magazines. Now one was thrown at me unexpectedly, and I was repulsed.
It wasn’t until I was twenty-three that a man talked to me plainly from the Bible about human sexuality. I was amazed by how much the Bible actually says about sex.
I think it’s a crime that, as God’s pilgrims journeying through this world, we leave sex education to other people and institutions that usually teach only about the physical aspects of reproduction and anatomy. We need to understand and teach what God says about the total spectrum of love, marriage, and sex.
The Bible teaches that God created sex. God made Adam and Eve as perfect, sexual beings (Genesis 2:18-25). Not until after the fall of humankind did Satan tempt people to misuse and abuse this gift. Often adults communicate to their children by their stubborn silence that sex is somehow evil. That’s false! Sex, in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful gifts God has given humanity.
The Bible shows that God created sex for pleasure as well as for reproduction. God’s Word exalts the joys of marital love. See the Song of Solomon, for example. Scripture likewise speaks of children as a special blessing from the Lord (Psalm 127:3).
The Bible presents sex as wholesome and right only within marriage. Hebrews 13:4 says, “Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.”
Only six percent of the young adults questioned for a survey indicated that by age twenty-one they were still waiting for God’s ideal–sexual intimacy only in marriage. God’s beautiful gift has been distorted and cheapened in so many cases.
How were your own views of love, marriage, and sex formed? Are they consistent with what the Bible teaches? In an age of confused immorality, we need to personally study and understand what God says about wholesome sexuality.
To Ponder
Do you feel you have a clear, biblical understanding of sex now? To what degree? Think back to how you learned about sexuality. Did you have any experiences that left you feeling defiled? If so, what did you do about it?
To Pursue
In John 13, Jesus washed His disciples’ feet, cleansing them from the defilement of the world. Ask the Lord to cleanse you from any defilement you’ve experienced.